Are christfags the worst posters on /pol/?
>>81581017
no one here is actually christian, their beliefs forbid them from coming to a place such as /pol/
>tfw atheist and haven't told /pol/ in ten minutes
>>81581064
>forbid
I'll take "What is free agency?" for 800 Alex.
>>81581017
Yes, absolutely.
Your meme picture still sucks ass.
>>81581017
Yes
/thread
Christianity was created by jews to be Good goy™: the religion.
>>81581017
Think about it though,
If he did just free the jews, nobody would know the story of moses, and we'd most likely have forgotten that the evil egyptian kangs enslaves white jews.
And that would be a problem.
Because when we got niggers screaming "we wuz kangs" we'd have nothing to say.
But because god threatened to kill kids using Moses as his 'face-man', we know those "kangs" enslaved white people.
And now whenever a nigger gets uppity about how he was a "kang", we can demand reparations.
>>81581017
Christfags kept Muslims out for 1000+ years. It's only when we secularized that (((the secular democracies))) started letting in the muslim hordes to rape your women
>>81581123
Oh right I forgot
>I can do bad things but as long as I say a prayer and ask god for forgiveness it's all good
>>81581383
this
daily reminder that Joseph was literally a cuckold
>>81581064
>>81581467
>Ausfailian shitposting
Your posts are correct though.
>>81581609
And the pope follows the tradition.
>>81581467
>Learning is a bad thing
Taking in knowledge isn't a sin. What you do with what you learn can be one though.
>>81581375
>and we'd most likely have forgotten that the evil egyptian kangs enslaves white jews.
Ah, the first jewish lie.
Notice how the entire being of semites centers around victimhood.
>>81581886
> original sin is literally eating a fruit form a tre of knowledge
Are you one of those christcucks that didn't even read the damned book?
>>81582030
That was sin because they were told specifically not to eat the fruit. No where does it say that we aren't allowed to learn.
>>81581375
It didn't really happen though.
>>81581383
After they created them in the first place. There's a reason they think Jesus is going to help them make there last stand in Dabiq.
And they didn't even do a good job of 'keeping them out' once they realized what they'd allowed to form.
>>81581467
>Reading the opinions and posts of /pol/ is a bad thing
>>81582198
You're as dull as ditchwater aren't you?
>hur dur they were forbidden form eating from the tree of knowledge
>Doesn't say they were forbidden from learning
Do all american's have autist level reading comprehension, or is it just this guy?
>>81582198
You were also told specifically to stone people that work on shabbat, goy.
>>81582296
>>>81581383 (You)
>After they created them in the first place. There's a reason they think Jesus is going to help them make there last stand in Dabiq.
>And they didn't even do a good job of 'keeping them out' once they realized what they'd allowed to form.
>knowing this much about mythologies
stop looking into the lore so much weeb, just pick cross or crescent and grab a sword
>>81581017
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
Cruel, evil, mysterious ways.
>>81582664
>what is the new covenant
>>81582662
It was that single act, the eating of the fruit. I understand that in that instance, they were forbidden to know of such things.
However, no where else does it say anything about learning anything.
>>81582666
>Cross or Crescent
>Not an Ankh
kek, nice trips btw
>>81581017
Unfortunately, no. Not even their cancer beats the hordes of shills. Trump shills, monsanto shills, oil and coal shills. You fucking name it. If it's status quo, it's here on /pol/ shilling night and day.
>>81583067
New covenant doesn't cancel the old one and jesus specifically mentions it for a retards like you.
Seriously, did you even read the book?
On some people barely capable of forming memories were forced to grow up in Paradise
I mean, how much more cucked then:
"love thy enemy" and
"do not resist an evil person"
can a man get?
yes
>>81583067
>The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.
>Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
Genesis 11: 6-7
Love all the proud non-"cucks" who bitch about showing mercy and compassion because they believe they will never be met with a stronger enemy who wants to destroy them
>>81583535
mfw todays "Rapefugee welcome"-atheists act in a christian way. Whilst laughing about christians at the same time.
>>81581375
>>81582296
Exactly, it never really happened.
The Bible is a fair amount of text but if you read it carefully it tells you quite clearly it's not a history book and it's not all to be taken literally.
The bondage in Egypt story may have some historical basis but it's certainly not history. It's a tale full of symbolism, it teaches spiritual things by allegory, it's not history, and the commentators that insist on reading it as history go through incredible contortions to maintain that illusion despite the clear indications in the text itself to the contrary.
>>81581017
Better make sure to harden pharoah's heart a few times first.
>mfw people on /pol/ unironically worship a jewish war demon
>>81583326
>New covenant totally means nothing
>Old covenant is the actual law
>tfw you need to get your flesh mutilated and sacrifice animals to appease god
>Seriously doesn't maaek u think?
>>81583535
I know right! When they're raping your mother in front of you and burning down your home you'll be like, sorry mom they're stronger and fair is fair.
>>81581017
God is based. God needs no justification and justice is arbitrary. Bite his lightning bolt encrusted cock. God gives less fucks than the devil
>>81583874
Is your cock circumcised?
Also I didn't said it means nothing. It god you terribly cucked by all the love and tolerance.
>>81583326
The old testament wasn't nullified. It was a contract with Israel and it was completed.
Anyone who unironically believes in the old-testament is not a Christian in the true sense of the word.
New Testament is the only acceptable Abrahamic text in the modern world.
>>81584168
Yes anon, therefore do not resist an evil person.
KEK ™
>>81583326
That historiography is totally false.
Only retards who learn everything they believe from meme macros could buy that.
>spending 30 years pacifying the barbarian savages whose ignorant greed and brutishness is threatening to destroy civilisation nullifies everything that was done before and after to stop the other bunch
Illogical as well as untrue.
>>81584088
Yeah you never said it was nothing you just implied it was nothing with synonymous language. It's cool how you deciphered ancient near eastern soteriological literature but you just aren't up to the task of handling comments on a cartoon board.
>>81583703
>because they believe they will never be met with a stronger enemy who wants to destroy them
Like what's happening now?
If we ever get the chance to wipe them out, would you not take it? Do you really want to repeat Hitler's mistake when we're currently living the consequences of him showing mercy and compassion?
>>81584168
You have to. Its the word of your god you silly cherrypicker.
>>81581840
Lol, is this shopped or real?
>>81584294
Those rules should only need to apply within your ethnic/national group.
>>81584400
I would not wipe out an entire civilization that's been subdued and is at our mercy, I am not qualified to order such a thing. But you'll be one of the ones who goes down fighting only to be lifted into the hands of Valhalla, right?
>>81584405
How many people do you think take the bible literally?
I'd say I'm in the majority, taking it as more of a philosophical guide. We all know the OT is bullshit and Christ just mentioned it to avoid pissing off the jews.
>>81584400
Why not just deport them back to where they belong. Hitler could have easily marched the jews into boats along the atlantic coast and forced the allies to take them.
>>81584537
If religions weren't as rigid and cucked, this point could be applied as an amendment. But then it should probably be called a normal secular law.
>>81584721
>ut you'll be one of the ones who goes down fighting only to be lifted into the hands of Valhalla, right?
I'm not a pagan.
Because of cucks like you, we'll never be free of the jewish cancer that's eating away at humanity.
Resist not evil, turn the other cheek, etc are not about defense they are about revenge and insults. Jesus instructed his followers to carry a sword for bandits and wild animals but not to slander, libel, or murder in vengeance.
>>81584728
I'm not sure why i would care, follow none of it like i do. Being dishonest about your book and cherrypicking it makes you look stupid. Do you follow the ten commandments?
>>81581017
yes, all semite religions are fucking retarded
>>81584854
>Hitler could have easily marched the jews into boats along the atlantic coast and forced the allies to take them.
Do they belong in ally countries?
>>81584971
Won't butcher people who have been defeated! Such cuckery. Clearly the answer is to behave like the people we criticize. But WHITE flavored.
>>81584988
Nope, I just appreciate the cultural impact that Christianity has had. Christ was radically ahead of his time, and basically brought the entire concept of empathy into public view. Modern morality is founded on Christian precepts.
Who do you think ended slavery in Europe?
>>81581375
Underrated post. Toppest of Kekkles.
>>81583798
You're missing Jewish Adventures V: We Wuz the Second Coming and shit mon.
>>81584405
God spoke in the only way the silly Jews would listen at the time.
I take the Old Testament with a grain of salt.
>>81584971
Oh and the Jews....what a universal cancer! Unless we need them to be white when it comes time to compare inventions and science.
>>81584854
Dream on. Hitler exactly wanted to do something along these lines, but your USA - granted, among most other countries - refused them asylum.
For sure.
>>81585241
Then you arent a christian lol. God didnt end it, humans did. We gain no morals from god, see his own words in the old testament.
>>81585230
They wouldn't behave like that if them behaving like they do wouldn't be able to achieve goals.
Since they want us dead, not returning the favor is retarded. And these aren't honorable people we're talking about. They'll whine and try to tuck on your heart strings and once you show them mercy they'll stab you in the back.
You as American should know, with them fucking up your country despite you going out of your way to help them.
>>81584971
Oh is that why Europe thrived on Christianity for centuries up until the 20th when the Jews got the hold of the media and started shilling anti Christian stuff?
>>81585377
And if you are christian and dont take the old testament as the word of god you arent a christian. You learn that really early on.
>>81585379
Nice strawman.
Just to clarify, you're a Christian, right?
>>81584168
>For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished.
Mathew 5:18
It's okay though anon, its all inconsistent bullshit anyway.
Job is my greatest servant on earth, a nearly perfect man, so just go ahead and fuck his shit up, Satan. Man, this whole situation really proves what a great god I really am. I guess I better replace Job's kids that I killed so he knows there's no hard feelings.
>>81585528
Europe thrived for centuries before Christianity. You should know, Italian.
>>81585528
Noone ever thrived because of religion. Societies thrive because of effective secular management in politics and economy, and because of scientific progress, of course.
>>81585526
Yes! Kill them all, the women the children the old people. They deserve it because of the things they do..which are fine when white people do them. Your allegiance is to genes, not virtue. If white genes behave like Muslims than fuck white genes.
>>81581017
Delete this.
>>81582030
>knowledge of good and evil
>all knowledge
I wouldn't expect one who lives in a den of prostitution and child pornography to understand. Your nation certainly seems to lack a knowledge of good and evil.
>>81581017
im a christian but i dont believe in god. thats just stupid.
>>81585705
Till all is complete is referring to the covenant. Wonder if jesus ever stated "it is finished" anywhere in there
>>81582970
Sunshine and rainbows don't bring people to God. Suffering exists for a reason. It tests the character of your soul.
In the light of eternity, a lifetime of horrific suffering and sublime joys carries no weight. It will be forgotten like a dream or a nightmare.
God gave us the gift of absolute freedom (as inconceivable as that is). You have the choice to become good or evil. If you choose evil, then into the trash your soul goes.
But you can become good through faith in Christ - you don't have to do all the heavy-lifting yourself.
>>81582666
Why?
>>81585995
The Earth is still here.
>>81585841
All you're doing is pointing out how I have a double standard. Yes, I do think about and want to treat people differently depending on whether they're my own people or not.
This really isn't some kind of revelation, that much should be self-evident.
This universalist, egalitarian nonsense is what got shat into your head by Christianity.
>If white genes behave like Muslims than fuck white genes.
Like Jesus said, if you don't hate your family you can't follow him. And look at you, proving why Christianity will always be the jewish fifth column.
lotsa butt hurt and tears, lotsa ad hominem and straw men around too....
there are NO innocents in this world...
he told us he would visit the consequences of un repentant sin to the third generation...the children of our children...
judgement is here, and will increase...the King is coming
>>81585981
>Your nation certainly seems to lack a knowledge of good and evil.
By your logic his nation must be just the way Yahweh wanted it, because it was having the knowledge that was the sin.
>>81586329
A lot of people said a lot of things in a lot of books. What a non-point.
>>81581609
you wish you were the father of gods son
The heavens and the earth will pass away before the law is destroyed before it's completion is an idiomatic way of saying that there's no way in hell the old covenant is going to be nullified before it's fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled it on the cross and said it's finished. it is not saying it will only be completed When Heaven and Earth are destroyed. it says that it's more likely that the Earth will blow up before the old Covenant is completed in other words not likely and it's not going to happen.
>>81585742
Uh no
If you're refering to the Romans, they went to shit and Europe fucking sucked ass to live in for about 400 years III century to VI when the new barbarian kingdoms got rallied under Christianity and Europe's domination under Christianity went for a hell lot fucking longer than the Romans
>>81585837
>slav education
Open a fucking book nigger, read about the fall of The Eastern Empire, you'll find that one of the big reasons that they kept it together is that the peoples were rallied and held steadfast by Christianity allowing the Emperors better control over the people, the army and Bureaucracy wich in turn lead to them living for another 1000 years
>>81586329
Pretty sure its been more than 3 generations.
>>81586461
>I don't understand theodicy and the problem of evil
The point of the fall was the redemption. Knowing evil, we are called to reject it.
It's hilarious when fedoras try to debate religion based off of that one passage they heard about one time
First of all, God doesn't just do shit for no reason and call it a night. Everything He does is meant to teach us how to live, and he does most of it through other people to give an example of that. That's why he wanted the pharaoh to explicitly give permission to the Jews to leave.
God also gave the pharaoh many chances to free the Jews before the Passover. There were a number of other plagues that He sent down that were often annoying but not deadly, and the pharaoh ignored all of them even though he was specifically told that God sent the plagues down and would continue to send them if he did not free the Jews.
Finally, as a last resort in order to save the Jews from undoubted future torture and death themselves, God took the lives of each firstborn in Egypt. In addition, if they were innocent children, they are surely in heaven and are literally happier than they could possibly be on earth.
>>81586614
>they went to shit and Europe fucking sucked ass to live in for about 400 years
So maybe civilization isn't a constant and Christianity had jack shit to do with what happened in Europe.
Looking at how shitty Ethiopia is compared to Europe and how decent Japan and China were compared to Ethiopia, religion really is a non-factor.
>>81586272
Your standard is that people who look white be the last people standing. You don't seem to give a shit if those people are degenerate monsters. They have blue eyes! Mission accomplished! You don't have allegiance to anything objectively true, your allegiance is to a teaspoon of cum.
>>81586963
>That's why he wanted the pharaoh to explicitly give permission to the Jews to leave.
Prove that there were jewish slaves in Egypt and that there was a mass migration of them out of Egypt at that or any point in time.
>>81581017
Mummy and daddy, could pay your rent and buy that stuff you want. But they think maybe, you should get of your arse and sort stuff for yourself, they will help, but sort your self out.
>>81584168
>god's word is absolute and infallible
>except this one time because that book is too hardcore, I want to be able to get haircuts and eat figs and...I mean, because god changed his mind
Why don't they embrace Norse mythology instead?
>>81586614
Oh yeah, that old justification where religion apparently helps to control people better... you know it's obsolete after USSR and China examples. So stop foisting your "books", lol
>>81586594
Why doesn't "everything is accomplished" mean "all events have passed" or "the end of time"?
Until heaven and earth are destroyed and for all time makes more sense to me than some weird double conditional with an unclear connection. (IE: Are they joined by an AND or an OR operation)
Regardless, there's another passage in Luke that basically says the same thing, but without your convenient interpretation loop hole.
It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.
-Luke 16:17.
>>81587306
Because they're KEKHOLDS who worship the gods of the invaders who slaughtered their ancestors, raped their predecessors, and burned their cultural sites and historical accounts. Christcucks are TRAITORS TO THE WHITE RACE.
>>81586594
But its not nullified the contract just got changed what includes the gentiles making the gentiles the jews
>>81587046
>Your standard is that people who look white be the last people standing
No. Jews look white and them not standing is the central point of my argumentation.
>ou don't seem to give a shit if those people are degenerate monsters. They have blue eyes! Mission accomplished! You don't have allegiance to anything objectively true, your allegiance is to a teaspoon of cum.
I have allegiance to my people. I want to ensure their survival. If I have the chance to permanently remove a 2000 years old threat, then I will remove that threat - and if that makes me a degenerate monster, so be it: I'll raise my offspring not to be, because they won't have to be.
I'm sorry that you care more about some jewish book than about your tribe. (((Jesus))) has accomplished his goal it seems.
>pray for protection from maliciousness and evil from the world
>still get targeted by wicked people in sadistic ways
>evil people go on to have more successful lives
I don't understand what God is showing with this
>>81581017
Jews are promoting atheism
And its the default position of bluepilled liberals, sjw's and other degenerates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVC1gZInxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LhabQJ_-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NQOnjswuFI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/.premium-1.669381
http://www.shj.org/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/secular-humanistic-judaism-rejecting-god/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/must-a-jew-believe-in-god/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/atheist-jews-judaism-without-god_n_978418.html
http://thehumanist.com/magazine/september-october-2014/humanist-living/jewish-atheists-and-koufax-jews
https://secularpolicyinstitute.net/numbers-the-rise-of-jewish-atheists/
Really causes one to ponder
>>81581017
>Shits on Christians
>Uses Jewish Book references
>Jews are somehow not mentioned
Every time
>>81587674
I'll give you a moment to think about it, apesian. Ready? It means your god is fake and you fell for the jewish ruse slave cult.
>>81587720
If a jew said is was dark out, would that mean the sun must be shining?
>>81587624
>>81586594
26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
>>81587117
The Egyptians had shit tons of slaves in order to build the pyramids and do all sorts of shit nobody else was gonna do, and the Jews were historically in the area. Is it so unrealistic to think that they could have been slaves?
Or are you waiting for an immaculate millenia old tablet that clearly states, "Caught some fuckin Jews today, gonna put em on pyramid duty"?
>>81581017
nobody is innocent. Would be nice if a fedora actually knew what Christianity teaches. >>81587166
>>81588036
>muh questionable analogy
>>81585528
>thrived
So that's why when you dug up ancient statues in 14th century you couldn't believe something like that existed long before Christ and it really made you think?
>>81588120
>The Egyptians had shit tons of slaves in order to build the pyramids
The pyramids got build by farmers between Nile flooding periods. I'm sorry you fell for one of their lies.
>and the Jews were historically in the area
Not according to Amihai Mazar, professor at the Institute of Archaeology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
>Or are you waiting for an immaculate millenia old tablet that clearly states, "Caught some fuckin Jews today, gonna put em on pyramid duty"?
SOME evidence would be nice, yes.
>>81587005
Religion doesn't automaticaly mean success, I don't know where you got that from, I was simply disspelling your argument that Relgion is some "jewish cancer that's eating away at humanity" . But Religion does build a country's identity and how it acts in history, many European actions and movements were driven by Christianity and the Christian God has been a matter of concern from little to small and united us at various times of history as other religions did for other Nations ie. the ones you mentioned.
>>81587383
Wow you mean that OPRESSIVE GOVERNMENTS in the age of INFORMATION are better at controling people's lives through deahtsquads and propaganda better than a medieval civilizaiton?
Shiet
you really are fucking retarded
>>81586479
aahh, but Sir, its not just a book...it's His Word, it's the Good News you know? believe on him, confess he is who he says he is, and you will be saved...the word is unique, the first and the last
>new age christfag biblical literalists are so shit at being retarded that they haven't even read their books in greek and seen that they're no different from taoism and hinduism
>>81588725
>New Age
what the fuck does that mean what distinguishes them from old age?
>>81581017
Do you see what happens to your country when you turn your back on God, germany? :^)
>>81586614
>Roman's (Not counting Byzantines) about 509 BC to 476AD. About 985 years
>Christian Middle Ages about 476 to 1300. About 825 years
>>81586963
>Yahweh giving Pharoh chances
>Not 'hardening his heart'
>Innocent children get to go to heaven
>foreskins an all
Song is catchy though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tVTEyuCKn4
>>81587674
> Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.
Romans 12:14
>>81588633
>But Religion does build a country's identity
Shame the barbarian Christians from the East came along and cut the noses off of that identity and scratched crosses on their forehead.
>>81588855
>only read the questionable translation of a translation
What is the real problem here? The element of hypocrisy? Pride? Or a vibrantly stunning lack of self awareness in far more ways than one?
>>81588633
These oppressive governments are so much more humane than your beloved inquisition, though.
>>81587720
i used to be a christian until i realized what a fucking scam all religions are:
"The income of the priest class is totally dependent on their continued ability to sell invisible goods to suckers, they praise and glorify faith to the skies, complimenting people on how much of it they have. If it weren't for faith, they'd be out of business, and they know it."
"Their commodity is fear. They blackmail their parishioners with threats of hell and damnation. These poor deluded people give them their hard earned money to save them from a hell that does not exist, and from eternal torment that was invented by the corrupt minds of priests to rob the living and in addition, they are exempt from taxation! Insult to injury!
Let me tell you that religion is the cruelest fraud ever perpetrated upon the human race. It is the last of the great scheme of thievery that man must legally prohibit so as to protect himself from the charlatans who prey upon the ignorance and fears of the people.The penalty for this type of extortion should be as severe as it is of other forms of fraud and theft."
>>81589034
If they read the original they'll get pissed that the word Elohim is a plural.
>>81588633
>I was simply disspelling your argument that Relgion is some "jewish cancer that's eating away at humanity"
I was referring to the Jews themselves. Christianity is just the guise under which they spread into the host nation. You can currently witness it in East Asia where the spread of Christianity in places like China and Japan and news of Jew/asian mixes - http://forward.com/news/326875/jews-with-asian-heritage-pose-growing-challenge-to-american-jewry/ - are the groundwork of them being about to jump ship, since their western host is clearly about to become inhabitable for them.
>But Religion does build a country's identity and how it acts in history, many European actions and movements were driven by Christianity and the Christian God has been a matter of concern from little to small and united us at various times of history as other religions did for other Nations ie. the ones you mentioned.
It's a slow working poison that's about to reach its lethal peak.
>>81589034
I don't know what does that have to do with my question, but keep avoiding it
>>81581017
yes, OP, they are. Worse than paid shills.
>>81589077
>Eastern Roman Empire
>Inquisition
You just keep getting dumber, drop the discussion, you're obviously not fit to argue unlike the Austrian
>>81589241
Do you know what new agers are? Modern Christfags who are biblical literalists and only of the English version of all things, are no different than modern stoners who think they have crystals in their brains and auras an shiet. They don't have an air of mysticism, it's all phony. Feel satisfied my pasta-nigger?
>>81589168
Why would they get pissed at something they literally learned in sunday school
>>81589149
The older ones actually are just allegories about current theories of nature.
Its only later, especially with the advent of Abrahamic Monothiesm, that they became politicized scams.
Roman Hellenism is my favorite religion, though even that had some scamming going on.
>>81587562
Your gods get fucked in the asses by horses. Then they shit baby horses out of their assholes and give them to their dads. Then their dads ride around on the deformed shit-horse. Tell us more about your trans-friendly gods
>>81582296
>There's a reason they think Jesus is going to help them make there last stand in Dabiq.
that's because the Quran was literally invented after the death of muhammed (pork be upon him) and they built their own muslim fan-fic on top of the bible.
>>81589184
>It's a slow working poison that's about to reach its lethal peak.
How come it hasn't shown any type of lethality until the century the Jews took over the media?
How come for centuries Christianity has been at the base of the common European man and family, but now it's being shilled against by deviants and rejects that are mad that their mothers made them go to church on Sunday? How is it so Hans, or should I call you Mr.Shlomo?
How do you not realzie that you consider western has been built or derived from Christianity? The monks in medieval times, Gothic architecture, Romanic architecture, The Renassince, Romanticism. Just to name a few
>>81583535
>"look mom, I posted it again"
>>81584168
>protestant education
Christians have kept and revered European mythology. They inspire works like Lord of the Ring, the Divine Comedy, C.S. Lewis, etc. Half the shit you ascribe to your magic viking ancestors is actually a romanticization by Christian writers and poets.
>>81589448
Yeah, that should've been the original answer you fucking fat fuck, next time don't give me your snarky ass remarks as an answer
>>81584684
to be fair, the rainbow is a divine symbol. It represents peace between man and God. Queers appropriated it to blaspheme it.
>>81589341
Arrogant pasta, lol.
Inquisition is a mirror cliche to your "deathsquads" nonsense. The point is that religious deathsquads are less effective and more cruel than non-religious, as proven by history.
>>81589674
I seem to recall a certain someone getting beat up in a desert and being defeated by a bunch of valley people in iron chariots.
Oh and don't forget magic hair man.
>>81589969
Same to you christcuck, being so insecure is really telling
>>81590096
You were talking about something irrelevant to the argument at hand, I could also talk about the common misconceptions about the Inquisitions but I'm afraid you'll switch the argument on me again.
>>81590096
>falling for the inquisition meme
>slav education
>>81589674
Also Odin wasn't Loki's dad. Are you taking Marvel movies as a reliable source.
>>81589184
>jews invented Christianity so Europe could be the only place from which they would be constantly forced to convert or kicked out throughout history
lmao, stop believing /pol/ memes you ignorant idiot
>>81589168
yes father ,son and, holy ghost are 3 . This is literaly in genesis
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
God
Spirit of God
>>81590146
Nice adhominems, burger
Never did I post a snarky remark towards what you wrote, you're the insecure one here, beating it around the bush with generic terms then resulting to adhominems
>>81587306
you know that pic represents the kabbalah, right? Norse religion is a satanic religion like modern judaism.
>>81587476
The verse in 16-17 is literally saying the same thing. Your problem is that you think the law is "destroyed" or nullified if it's completed. Covenant means a contract. God had a contract with the people of Israel. Do certain things or certain things happen. When the bible says Jesus "fulfilled" the law, it means that he finished the contract for mankind. That statement in Luke was made in the middle of Christ's ministry when the law was in full effect and people were breaking it. Completing the law does not make the law disappear, it finishes what the law set out to accomplish. Then Jesus starts a New Covenant (a new contract) which does not include a lot of things in the old covenant. This includes legal aspects which were designed to guide the judges of Israel and ritual aspects which involved the temple, what food you can't eat, circumcision, etc.
>>81588855
>what distinguishes them from old age?
LARPing and being full of shit
>>81590226
Grazie per l'aiuto contro questi eretici, ma cerca di approfondire i tuoi argomenti, dare risposte generiche gli aiuta perché dà a loro munizioni per usare contro di te e non gli convince
>>81590132
golly you mean the figure of speech "the lord was with them" referring to victory in battle, not the lord literally coming down and fighting side by side with them? Golly never heard that one before, oh well, at least I can rest assured dinosaurs were on the ark and davidic poets never say mean things about amalekites.
>>81589448
that's not what new age is though. It's a much wider term. It's mostly people who recycle religious notions here and there, mix them up in a LARPing orgasm and propose it as some kind of new and revolutionary truth to allure spiritually ignorant people into giving them money.
>>81590570
Finché scrivono stupidaggini generiche do risposte generiche. Inutile fornire perle ai porci se prima non si fanno il bagno.
>>81590223
It's relevant since I am refuting your claim that any country or region ever thrived from their religious leeches.
>>81581840
BTFO
>>81590879
Well I already refuted your claim by providing a 1000 year example
>>81589814
>How come it hasn't shown any type of lethality until the century the Jews took over the media?
What about them taking over money lending under Charlemagne?
>How come for centuries Christianity has been at the base of the common European man and family, but now it's being shilled against by deviants and rejects that are mad that their mothers made them go to church on Sunday? How is it so Hans, or should I call you Mr.Shlomo?
It's always hilarious when a Jew-worshipper thinks it's a smart idea to accuse someone of being a Jew when he doesn't want to worship the Jew because of his jewishness.
Anon, what does it matter what Christianity has allegedly done (how do you know it wouldn't have happened without it? Similar family structures were a thing before it) when it has been the foundation of every marxist thought in [current year]?
>How do you not realzie that you consider western has been built or derived from Christianity?
The west got a lot more from Greek philosophers and Roman lawmakers. Even the so called Christian morality is more stoicism than anything original coming from the Levant.
What came from the Levant however is what's killing us: a Jew-centric worldview (they're god's chosen/formerly chosen people), and with that worldview the Jews themselves, and with the Jews the subversion of their host.
All of these things
>The monks in medieval times, Gothic architecture, Romanic architecture, The Renassince, Romanticism. Just to name a few
are European. If they were Christian, you'd see the same thing in the other places where the religion spread. And you don't.
We can't undo history, but we need to take a step back and look at the things as they are and the make a proper judgement about how to proceed for the future.
>>81590326
>jews invented Christianity so Europe could be the only place from which they would be constantly forced to convert or kicked out throughout history
The point is that they had the option to convert and were kicked out instead of killed, as they should have been back when their numbers were small enough to do so without too much effort (after the first few times where converting or kicking them out didn't work, someone should've seen the pattern). Yet they didn't. If you look into the Bible you might find out, why.
Look at the Jews now, having control over the entire west. Evidently, the Christian way did not work. It failed.
Why would anyone suggest trying what failed for over a hundred times already?
>>81591293
You're talking about one specific branch of soteriology, dispensationalism, which places a high importance on Jews and Israel because they think that when the temple gets rebuilt Jesus will come down and turn it into rubble. This is a popular view among right-wing Christian evangelicals it is not the official view or even the popular view of every orthodox church. These views range from Jews are Magic and Special to Jews are the synogogue of Satan / Israel is a whore riding on the back of a beast. Authentic Christianity isn't "Jew centric," It's Jesus-centric. What is geographically Israel is no longer the "real" Israel, which is the Church.
>>81591723
sorry, meant eschatology
>>81591660
>The point is that they had the option to convert and were kicked out instead of killed,
You think they were never killed? lmao
>Look at the Jews now, having control over the entire west
They have control on those who are not Christian, though, so what's your point? Clearly being secular works against them a lot less than being Christian.
>Why would anyone suggest trying what failed for over a hundred times already?
It didn't fail at all. You see the present situation but not what brought it forth. They are powerful in Europe now exactly because Europe lost their christian identity and stopped fighting those who hate christianity (jews, muslims, atheists, etc. etc.). Those enemies are all united against Christ, against the truth, and that is why you, by being an atheist, are a useful idiot in their hands.
>>81585994
Wut?
>>81591723
>Authentic Christianity isn't "Jew centric," It's Jesus-centric.
What a great precedent that would be, being the incarnation of anti-nationalist sentiment.
Do you think that's healthy when faced with demographic death due to anti-nationalist traitors internally and greedy hordes externally?
>>81591274
Your example is apologetical at best. It's like you found one of a rare cases where religion didn't screw up the society it leeched to, and was even able to take credit for its achievements.
>>81590786
>referring to victory
They lost anon.
No, Jesus is a good man
The Jews control the media and the Jews want everyone to be Christian, that's why the media is non-stop Christianity and sodomy is still illegal.
The Jews' nefarious plan involved having their central place of worship - the temple - be destroyed and defiled by pagans, being scattered to the winds and hated everywhere they went instead of having a homeland where they could be safe... being pinned with the murder and betrayal of the most Holy man in the world who was also the Lord..
And after 1800 years of humiliation and ostracization they've finally succeeded in causing white people to have sex with black people. Truly genius.
>>81581064
Hey look, another unread fedora tipper telling Christians what it means to be Christian. Haven't seen that before.
RARE
sage
>>81592217
Oh yeah, total loyalty to the state rather than to objective good, that always works out well.
The traitors you are talking about are full of shit. They sacrifice neighbors they probably won't meet in order to look good politically and in social media. They do things like import hordes of barbarians because they know they personally won't likely suffer a direct consequence. They don't care about their neighbors, friends, and family, who are being raped and pillaged. They seek social approval and superficial righteousness, which is exactly what Jesus loathed in the Pharisees.
>>81591293
>What about them taking over money lending under Charlemagne?
Usury is a major sin in Christianity so whoever you're refering to were jews under the guise of Christians
>It's always hilarious when a Jew-worshipper thinks it's a smart idea to accuse someone of being a Jew when he doesn't want to worship the Jew because of his jewishness.
Anon, what does it matter what Christianity has allegedly done (how do you know it wouldn't have happened without it? Similar family structures were a thing before it) when it has been the foundation of every marxist thought in [current year]?
All those words to say, nothing. Christianity still is the base of Western civilization. Similar family structures existed before Christianity but the one we have today: Mother, Father + kids was consolidated by Christianity. Many pagan civilizations practiced polygamy in form of main Wife and then the "comfort" girls for the man, while Christianity condemns this as sinful, even tough the Man is considered above the woman as head of the family he must respect his woman as she respects him. In Roman society promiscuity was a big problem, lots of bastards and divorces, Christianity worked against that.
Also Marxism isn't based in any religion, need I remind you that Stalin's USSR was atheist?
>The west got a lot more from Greek philosophers and Roman lawmakers. Even the so called Christian morality is more stoicism than anything original coming from the Levant.
What came from the Levant however is what's killing us: a Jew-centric worldview (they're god's chosen/formerly chosen people), and with that worldview the Jews themselves, and with the Jews the subversion of their host.
It is true that Greeks and Romans gave alot to the world but so did the Europeans after their fall, your mention of Levant is irrelevant as throught history there have been many famous Theolgists that helped shape the European thought, morality and philosophy such as Saint Augustine or Saint Ambrose. cont.
>>81592532
Tell me anon, who was Moses' second wife?
>>81592251
"the lord was with them at such and such but they couldn't defeat so and so because of iron chariots." It's saying they were victorious in one place but lost in another. It's not ascribing weakness to God. If you believe that scripture was changed for convenience, how on earth would that passage survive even a single generation of religious tradition if it was teaching that "Almighty God" lost a fight because of technology?
>>81591979
>You think they were never killed? lmao
Not nearly enough, no.
>They have control on those who are not Christian, though, so what's your point?
Them running the US of A kinda disagrees with you.
>It didn't fail at all. You see the present situation but not what brought it forth.
But I do, why do you think I argue against the continuation of Christian ideology? It's egalitarian, it's universal, it's forgiving, it's suicidal. The very nature of the ideology is hoping that Jesus comes back and burns our planet to the ground. Early Christians used to let them be slaughtered because they valued their afterlife more than the one they evidently had.
This is not a healthy mentality. And now you're blaming people STOPPING being Christians for the current ails, when they can all be tracked back to universalist, egalitarian, self-hating and enemy-forgiving thought?
Just like with calling others Jews for not being Christian, calling them useful idiots is equally hilarious.
>>81591293
>what does it matter what Christianity has allegedly done (how do you know it wouldn't have happened without it? Similar family structures were a thing before it) when it has been the foundation of every marxist thought in [current year]?
Marx was a literal satanist, look it up
>>81592827
>Oh yeah, total loyalty to the state rather than to objective good, that always works out well.
Who cares about the state? This is about the people. And loyalty to your own tribe is what works out well, it's what made us survive and the lack of it is killing us.
>>81592930
What's your point? Even if it was wrong for Moses to marry an Ethiopian woman, it was wrong for Moses to murder the egyptian, it was wrong of Lot to offer his daughters to rapists, it was wrong David to commit adultery and murder, etc. Christianity isn't about imitating patriarchs, it's imitation of Christ.
Was that the Jews plan? Having Moses marry someone from Eastern europe so that one day in the distant future Americans would fornicate with people from southwestern Africa? Oh but they also made it so all the babies get aborted. The Jews are truly geniuses
>>81593574
sorry, meant Eastern Africa
>>81593433
> Marx was a literal satanist, look it up
> church education
>>81593229
>It's egalitarian, it's universal, it's forgiving
Yes and no. Christianity advocated those things but in a healthy way. Just like the rainbow example I made earlier, jews, masons and other satanists have used the values of christianity and have subverted them. Pic related.
>The very nature of the ideology is hoping that Jesus comes back and burns our planet to the ground
Life is nothing but a chance to elevate ourselves to perfect communion with God. From a true Christian perspective, the end of times is something bad because after it nobody will be born anymore to be given that infinite joy.
>Early Christians used to let them be slaughtered because they valued their afterlife more than the one they evidently had.
Early Christians used not to compromise the truth, even at the expense of their own life. When they didn't have to die anymore for their beliefs, you faggot started calling them tyrants and oppressors because they still defended that truth, but when they did they didn't die anymore. Pure demonic hipocrisy and deception that you fell into.
> when they can all be tracked back to universalist, egalitarian, self-hating and enemy-forgiving thought?
How many wars did Europeans win while they were 99% Christians? How many enemies did they crush? Do you even know history? You use those adjectives but you don't understand their connotation, how they have been changed through time and how they are used to influence and let you misunderstand reality.
>>81592831
Also Christians hate jews by default as it has been shown throught history, Jeew go against the word of Jesus Christ by being deceptive and practicing usury
>The monks in medieval times, Gothic architecture, Romanic architecture, The Renassince, Romanticism. Just to name a few
are European. If they were Christian, you'd see the same thing in the other places where the religion spread. And you don't.
We can't undo history, but we need to take a step back and look at the things as they are and the make a proper judgement about how to proceed for the future.
They were Christian, and it is thanks to them that we have the manuscripts and remnants from the Classical age. You think if the barbarians, if they remained pagan would've gave a shit about some faggots before them? Hell no they would've probably used that shit to wipe their ass with it. Hell that was in the process of happening, seeing as many were burning Roman cities and destroying them. The monks driven to live closer to God while also contribuiting to the rest of their world with charity and knowledge,working day and night to preserve knowledge from ages passed and work the land in times of despair and death to help the poor and ignorant as the Lord, Jesus preaches even tough there has been outside interference monks for hundreads of years have been home to European knowledge and it is only thanks to their desire to work closer to God that inspired them to do so. Christians today are not the same ones from before and that doesn't take the fact that Christianity doesn't mean immediate success but rather functions as a thing that a society can use to build itself up
>>81592831
>Usury is a major sin in Christianity so whoever you're refering to were jews under the guise of Christians
Yes, they were Jews. For Jews those Christian rules didn't apply. Which left them a huge nice niche market to fill and become rich and powerful off of until they had to pack their jewgold and move to the next town over where they continued and continued and continued until they got to where they are now. All under the nose of Christians.
>Also Marxism isn't based in any religion, need I remind you that Stalin's USSR was atheist?
Christianity was still the basis of Stalin's USSR. I recommend to you some Spengler. Or reading Marx with your Bible laying open next to it.
>It is true that Greeks and Romans gave alot to the world but so did the Europeans after their fall, your mention of Levant is irrelevant as throught history there have been many famous Theolgists that helped shape the European thought, morality and philosophy
Good for them. How are they useful today?
>>81593433
>Marx was a literal satanist, look it up
Where should I look it up? I know that he was more of an anti-semite than Jesus and Luther combined from reading his book On the Jewish Question. He pretty much laid out rational, objective observations about their behavior - it reminded me a lot of /pol/ when it has its good days, which sadly isn't that often nowadays with all the shills (Christian ones included) running rampant.
>>81593906
Oulanem
>>81594257
>I know that he was more of an anti-semite than Jesus and Luther combined from reading his book On the Jewish Question
Marx was jewish, and even though he wrote the communist manifesto he was a friend of Rothschild. He came from a long line of rabbis, you are delusional.
>Where should I look it up?
Oulanem
>>81593229
> And now you're blaming people STOPPING being Christians for the current ails, when they can all be tracked back to universalist, egalitarian, self-hating and enemy-forgiving thought?
If we weren't christian, pic related wouldn't have happened and we would all be muslims right now. Not to mention the siege of Vienna. Poland came to rescue to help their christian brothers, without their support Vienna, and consequently Europe would have been lost. Libtards communist apologists like you argue that muslims were already "out-streched" and wouldn't have conquered Europe, but it is the fact that they got BTFO there that made them out-streched, otherwise if they already were they sure as hell they wouldn't have moved their whole fucking army to Vienna.
>>81594257
>Yes, they were Jews. For Jews those Christian rules didn't apply. Which left them a huge nice niche market to fill and become rich and powerful off of until they had to pack their jewgold and move to the next town over where they continued and continued and continued until they got to where they are now. All under the nose of Christians.
In most cases Jews were punished if they were caught doing so, that is the reason they were so often expelled from European countries, until certain retards that thought that could profit from it over the course of time let them back in.
>Christianity was still the basis of Stalin's USSR. I recommend to you some Spengler. Or reading Marx with your Bible laying open next to it.
Not officialy, it is true that slavs were Orthodox before the whole USSR thing but officialy the state had no religion
>Good for them. How are they useful today?
How useful are Greek philosphers on a practical level?
Might I add that the Corpus Iuris Civilis, a fundamental work of jurisprudence that most modern constitutions are inspired from was comissioned by a Christian Emperor, do you think that is not important too?
>>81594257
also see
>>81594140
>>81594257
> Christianity was still the basis of Stalin's USSR.
Well, christianity certainly wasn't the basis of society, it just wasn't completely removed (like it should have been), it was more of a useless vestige from tsarist times. It didn't even help us in WW2, much less in other enterprises.
>>81594035
>Yes and no. Christianity advocated those things but in a healthy way. Just like the rainbow example I made earlier, jews, masons and other satanists have used the values of christianity and have subverted them. Pic related.
Why not have values that make them unsubvertable to these outside groups?
>When they didn't have to die anymore for their beliefs, you faggot started calling them tyrants and oppressors because they still defended that truth, but when they did they didn't die anymore. Pure demonic hipocrisy and deception that you fell into.
Where did I do that? If you're getting frantic to a point where you're making up stuff, then this conversation has to come to an end.
>How many wars did Europeans win while they were 99% Christians? How many enemies did they crush? Do you even know history?
I do know history enough to understand that focussing to much on it ends up in WE WUZ tier retardation, which causes us to forget about the future.
From how many of those wars did jews benefit by the way? I'd wager most of them, with the most important of them being the last one.
>>81594140
>Also Christians hate jews by default
They worship a Jew. They LARP as Jews (them wanting to be "Israel"). This leads to cognitive dissonance and cognitive dissonant groups are easy to subvert.
>They were Christian, and it is thanks to them that we have the manuscripts and remnants from the Classical age.
>Hell that was in the process of happening, seeing as many were burning Roman cities and destroying them.
Which is funny considering that the Goths that sacked Rome were Christians. Woops, what?
>>81595175
>Why not have values that make them unsubvertable to these outside groups?
Those values don't make you "subvertable", in fact it is after we abandoned Christian values that we because subvertable. How much role does porn have in influencing our perception of sexuality, and therefore marriage, and therefore society? And yet porn goes against Christian values. Just one example. Btw people get married even though they watch porn and cuck each other all the time. They tell themselves "I love you", but their actions show that they don't. The same way people say they have those values but they don't, they merely have a perversion of them, used to control them instead of liberating them like the Way shown us by Christ does.
>Where did I do that?
Just pointing out that they didn't die out of a will to die, but out of a will to be 100% witnesses of truth, regardless of the consequences. That means that in some time they had to suffer, in some other times someone else would have to suffer. Either way those values didn't make them "cucks" like you are trying to assert.
>From how many of those wars did jews benefit by the way?
You tell me. Jews always allied with muslims when they tried to take over Christian lands. That is because muslims never kicked jews out, they always welcomed them (until the second half of the 20th century, when jews decided muslim hate was necessary to convince other jews to return to Israel).
> I'd wager most of them, with the most important of them being the last one.
That's a guess based on no info. Btw Hitler was a catholic, so you tell me who was waging war against the jews during WW2 and who was sucking their cock. It was anglo freemasons who were doing it, the same people who despise and attack the Church, and whose cheap propaganda you are regurgitating on this board.
>>81581017
>Make meme picture never read the bible, or to stupid to understand it
1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2Speak unto the children of Israel, that they turn and encamp before Pihahiroth, between Migdol and the sea, over against Baalzephon: before it shall ye encamp by the sea. 3For Pharaoh will say of the children of Israel, They are entangled in the land, the wilderness hath shut them in. 4And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, that he shall follow after them; and I will be honoured upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host; that the Egyptians may know that I am the LORD. And they did so.
>that the Egyptians may know that I am the LORD
30Thus the LORD saved Israel that day out of the hand of the Egyptians; and Israel saw the Egyptians dead upon the sea shore. 31And Israel saw that great work which the LORD did upon the Egyptians: and the people feared the LORD, and believed the LORD, and his servant Moses.
>and the people feared the LORD, and believed the LORD, and his servant Moses.
>>81595175
>>I do know history enough to understand that focussing to much on it ends up in WE WUZ tier retardation, which causes us to forget about the future.
Can you affirm that the battle of Lepanto and the siege of Vienna would have been won if the europeans involved were not Christian? Yes or no?
If you say yes then you know nothing about history at all
>>81594534
>Marx was jewish
So was Jesus.
>He came from a long line of rabbis
Jesus was trained as one.
How do you accept the one and reject the other when both have the same basis? Why do you choose to live with cognitive dissonance?
>Oulanem
That's a fucking DRAMA. Is Terry Pratchet a satanist for writing books about demons and shit?
>>81594879
>If we weren't christian, pic related wouldn't have happened
How do you know? There was pre-Christian warfare.
>Libtards communist apologists like you argue that muslims were already "out-streched" and wouldn't have conquered Europe
How does calling me something I'm not for something I don't do make any sense? This is like you calling me a Jew all over again.
>Not officialy, it is true that slavs were Orthodox before the whole USSR thing but officialy the state had no religion
So what? Something doesn't need to be officially the state religion for it to have social influence. Notice how you're directly contradicting yourself since you acknowledged that it's possible in your previous post.
>How useful are Greek philosphers on a practical level?
We still use logic and math, so quite a lot.
>Might I add that the Corpus Iuris Civilis, a fundamental work of jurisprudence that most modern constitutions are inspired from was comissioned by a Christian Emperor, do you think that is not important too?
How is it important that it was a Christian Emperor when the majority of that codified law has been around pre-Christian times, most of it derived from the twelve tables?
>>81595175
>They LARP as Jews (them wanting to be "Israel").
What?
What is that supposed to mean
>>81595175
The sack of Rome happened in 410
The Visigoths (who sacked rome) didn't being their conversion up until late 4th century and it's not like Islam where if you live among them you convert or die because there are reports of pagans and christians living together, and even then they were following a heretical sect the Arian Christianity that went against the main body until they converted around the 6th century and his enemy Stilico was a Nicean Chrstian (main faith)
>>81596185
also read
>>81594899
>>81589674
>making me post this
Your god got lost in a fucking desert for four decades. Four fucking DECADES. Like head south ya nitwit. If there's one thing a desert doesn't lack it's THE SUN FOR DIRECTION.
>>81595933
>Those values don't make you "subvertable", in fact it is after we abandoned Christian values that we because subvertable.
You just said
>Just like the rainbow example I made earlier, jews, masons and other satanists have used the values of christianity and have subverted them.
You can't even stay consistent between two posts.
>That's a guess based on no info.
Oh come on, they clearly profited from WW2. They got their own nation, got their constant stream of financial support and reparations, can weasle themselves into positions of power due to their made up victim status.
>Btw Hitler was a catholic, so you tell me who was waging war against the jews during WW2 and who was sucking their cock.
Hitler failed, just like all the other Christians thoughout history failed before him.
Yet you still want us to go back to this. Why do you want us to fail against them?
>>81596107
>Can you affirm that the battle of Lepanto and the siege of Vienna would have been won if the europeans involved were not Christian? Yes or no?
No I can't, which is why it's a non-issue to me. Like I said, it's WE WUZ tier retardation focussing so much on this stuff when we have no way to know how it could've went differently.
>>81596185
>So was Jesus.
The human nature of Jesus was jewish, sure. His divine nature wasn't. There is only one God and he doesn't have an ethnicity, stop being purposedly retarded.
>Jesus was trained as one.
Rabbinical judaism that you know today is different from ancient judaism. Jesus was Truth incarnate, by rejecting him they have rejected Truth, and from that all the problems with jewish people come from. Jews of today don't have the conditions that God deemed necessary for them to serve him. They have been rejected by Him. Basically today's jews are merely LARPing, and they admit that themselves.
>How do you accept the one and reject the other when both have the same basis?
Because I am not a retard. Rabbis of today opposed and tried to kill the apostles who followed Jesus, they crucified Jesus. If you identify Jews as pure evil then you should identify as pure good those who fought them, it's only logical.
>Why do you choose to live with cognitive dissonance?
Why do you choose to live with memes and false equivalences?
>How do you know? There was pre-Christian warfare.
Because the Pope had a fundamental role in convincing the nobles to rally in defence of christian lands, in a time of prodoung wars among european nations and political instability.
>How does calling me something I'm not for something I don't do make any sense?
You clearly suck Marx's cock as evidenced by your previous posts, I am not making up anything
>>81596517
>The Visigoths (who sacked rome) didn't being their conversion up until late 4th century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_Christianity says "between 376 and 390 AD".
>and even then they were following a heretical sect the Arian Christianity
Sorry, but whining about sects you don't approve of doesn't change the fact that they embraced Christianity.
>>81596924
>The human nature of Jesus was jewish, sure.
Thanks for confirming what I said.
>His divine nature wasn't. There is only one God and he doesn't have an ethnicity, stop being purposedly retarded.
No way to check, it's a non-issue.
>muh no tru jews
>muh truf
Unrelated to this discussion.
>If you identify Jews as pure evil then you should identify as pure good those who fought them, it's only logical.
Tiberius was a Roman pagan and fought them. Is Roman paganism "pure good"?
>Why do you choose to live with memes and false equivalences?
Calling something a meme is a meme is a meme is a meme.
>You clearly suck Marx's cock as evidenced by your previous posts, I am not making up anything
Just like with you calling me a Jew or you calling me a liberal this doesn't make any sense since I'm attacking Christianity because it's the ideological foundation of marxism.
>>81597045
>376 and 390 AD
That's late 4th century bro
>Sorry, but whining about sects you don't approve of doesn't change the fact that they embraced Christianity.
No that only means they were not true christians and "converted" because they thought the Roman population's outlash would be less strong (it wasn't)
>>81596752
>You can't even stay consistent between two posts.
I hate when faggots like you start being disengenouous to try and hide their retardness.
People who hold fast to Christian values are not subvertable. Those who accept the perversion of those values in a secular perspective, driven by human agency and towards human goals become subvertable because the very nature of the values they choose to follow instead of actual christian ones is corrupted.
Of course satan won't convince most people to follow him by saying "hey I am satan come to hell with me and reject god", he is the master of lies, he does it in a way that convinces people they are in the right and God is wrong. That can only be possible by emulating positive values and perverting the perception of what is moral and what isn't.
>they clearly profited from WW2
Yes, and communists (atheists) and protestant countries, both the results of international judeo-masonry, all were on their side against catholic Hitler and Mussolini, and catholic spain and southern france.
>Hitler failed, just like all the other Christians thoughout history failed before him.
Non-sequitur. hitler was a catholic but he didn't fail because he was a catholic, he failed because in 1945, the elite of the world had already embraced masonic lodges and rejected the Way, the Truth, the Life. Hitler was a useful idiot in the hands of the elites who already controlled the world, and indirectly controlled him
>Like I said, it's WE WUZ tier retardation
No, you delusional cunt, it's history. HISTORY, verstehst du? Nicht meiner Meinung nach, das sind Tatsachen! Praeg es in dein Kopf ein und begreif Realitaet!!
>>81597588
Yes, and Rome fell when Odoacer removed the Roman Emperor in 476.
>No that only means they were not true christians
See your own greentext.
Is there an accurate bible?
I mean one that represents the bible before the Church of England raped and gutted it.
>>81597680
>it's disingenuous when you quote my two clearly contradictory statements
k
>Non-sequitur. hitler was a catholic but he didn't fail because he was a catholic
Why do you now accept that sentiment while rejecting it previously, claiming everything accomplished was due to catholicism?
>No, you delusional cunt, it's history. HISTORY, verstehst du? Nicht meiner Meinung nach, das sind Tatsachen! Praeg es in dein Kopf ein und begreif Realitaet!!
Why do you ignore the rest of the sentence that elaborates why it's retarded? I really wish you'd calm down a bit, there's no need to get worked up about things we can't change or have no way of checking.
>>81597569
>Thanks for confirming what I said.
That doesn't make your point valid, though.
>No way to check, it's a non-issue.
If you accept that God exists, you don't need to check, it comes by itself that he does not have an ethnicity since he created the Universe and existed outside time billions of years before something like "ethnicity" would come to pass.
>Unrelated to this discussion.
Not at all. You affirm that we worship a kike on a stick, but those you call kikes started existing a lot after Jesus existed, they didn't exist before. They are a perversion of the Truth just like all the other things you have bought into and they you regurgitate as facts.
>Tiberius was a Roman pagan and fought them. Is Roman paganism "pure good"?
My point was that you cannot compare jews of today to the apostles or Jesus. You cannot say they are the same as Jesus since they fought him and were his complete opposite. Tiberius probably did "pure good" things in his life. Good and evil simply mean "in accordange to God's will" and "against God's will". Fighting the Jews once, for personal reasons, and certainly not because you are following the truth, obviously does not make you a christian model of values and behaviour though.
>Just like with you calling me a Jew
Never called you a jew, maybe the other italian anon
>you calling me a liberal
Well you obviously are, according to your beliefs, to your view of history and your enjoymeny in sucking marx's cock
>since I'm attacking Christianity because it's the ideological foundation of marxism.
You have already been proven time and time again that it is not so. Marx despised Christianity, marxist countries despide Christianity. Even in the present, the more marxist a country becomes the less christian it becomes. You see it yourself, in real-time in the western world. And yet you believe the master of lies, you regurgitate his bullshit and ignore reality.
>>81581017
>Thinking Christianity or any religion is JUST about love and peace
>>81598288
>>it's disingenuous when you quote my two clearly contradictory statements
They were not contradictory at all. I explained you why, and you still claim with no argument that they are contradictory. I cannot make you understand truth if you refuse it in favour of your fee fees, anon. Whatever.
>Why do you now accept that sentiment while rejecting it previously, claiming everything accomplished was due to catholicism?
What are you even talking about? Do you just throw random words and hope they will magically form a coherent argument? I mean I could use the same bullshti argument against you, asking you why is Hitler catholic if he failes but if the christian world succeeds then chrisianity has nothing to do with it!
But I don't ascribe to a view as simplistic and black and white as yours. The Christian world followed Truth through Christianity, but that Truth was always attacked throughout history. That opposition explains christian accomplishments and christian failures. By looking at facts it is obvious that the elite that challenged Hitler were masons and against God. Hitler was a catholic but he was too alone in his fight, he was also not moved by Truth but by his own interest, a delusion of ethnic supremacy that is earthly and corrupted. If he had followed Truth in all honesty and with all his being instead of being a faggot, maybe he would have won.
>Why do you ignore the rest of the sentence that elaborates why it's retarded?
You don't elaborate shit. You say "we cannut know nuffing." But WE FUCKING CAN. Take your relativist bullshit somewhere else, anti-intellectual people like you piss me off. You know you are wrong so suddenly "well you can't say that for sure". OF course we fucking can, it's proven history you ignorant cunt
>>81597895
Okay friend so I am now a Bhudist just cause I said so right?
Also Odoacer is the same as Alaric, both arians, Odoacer converted exclusevely for the reason to control Roman populace wich was pretty mad about fucking everything that just happened, he thought that by doign that and wedding his kids away to Roman nobility will further legitimize his reign and become the leader of the new Barbarian reigns. But it wasn't so because the ERE weren't easily fooled by bum fuck smelly barbarians
>>81581017
Maybe not the worst, but they are among the worst posters.
>>81599845
>Also Odoacer is the same as Alaric, both arians
See >>81597045
>m-muh non approved sect!
>muh no tru crishun
>>81599982
Okay friend so infact you just said
If I want to be a religion, without following any of its teachings, reading anything about it or from it, I can still be that religion
So if right now I want to be a Buhdist, I am officialy one
correct?
>>81593020
>וּבְנֵי קֵינִי חֹתֵן מֹשֶׁה עָלוּ מֵעִיר הַתְּמָרִים אֶת־בְּנֵי יְהוּדָה מִדְבַּר יְהוּדָה אֲשֶׁר בְּנֶגֶב עֲרָד וַיֵּלֶ וַיֵּשֶׁב אֶת־הָעָם
>And Yahweh was with Judah and he drove out [the inhabitants of] the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
Judges 1:19
Still says God was with them and lost
And I'm sure Loki being impregnated by Svadilfari was meant to be taken entirely literally as well.
>>81600474
What are the official teachings and why, and how did the Goths not follow them?
>>81600655
>yahweh is weaker than iron.
Nice.
>>81596517
>Italy can't count
1st century= 0-100
2nd century= 100-200
3rd century= 200-300
4th century= 300-400
5th century=400-500
ect...
21st century=2000-2100
>>81600735
>What
Look up nicean faith and arianism on wikipedia
>Why
Because not all of them were proper converted, because it was politicaly to pretend to be to further their own goals
>How
By looking at their actions
>>81601799
Yeah no fucking shit nigger, obviously you did not comprehend what I was trying to say wich is that the goths didn't have enough time to properly convert to even consider them christians let alone the fact that they converted to the Arian faith
>>81601816
Why are the Niceans the authority on what tru crishianity is and why doesn't your god come down and confirm it to put an end to all those false sects like the protestants?
>>81602270
>The Niceans
wow god damn read a fucking history book. You've just proven that you don't know anything but what you skimmed over on wikipedia about Christianity
>why doesn't your god come down and confirm it to put an end to all those false sects like the protestants?
Because God doesn't take away free will of men
Wich goes to further prove my previous point
>>81602555
That doesn't answer why they're the authority over it.
>Because God doesn't take away free will of men
How would revealing the alleged truf take away from the free will of men anymore than starting Christianity in the first place?
>>81602052
Looks like they were to me.
Didn't know there was a waiting period of a couple of decades to be 'fully converted'. Is there a little coloured bar that measures your progress like in video games?
>>81603192
>Didn't know there was a waiting period of a couple of decades to be 'fully converted'. Is there a little coloured bar that measures your progress like in video games?
>>81603083
I won't answer you first question, just do your own research on it, I'm just about done with you
>How would revealing the alleged truf take away from the free will of men anymore than starting Christianity in the first place?
First, God has been made flesh as Jesus Christ and has told his teachings, it is up to the men what to do with them and what to believe as it is against his own word to take that away from them
God as the father won't reveal himself to men for men will begin to worship his image rather that the being that he is
God as the son will not come again on earth until the armageddon
>guaranteed replies
>>81603192
>Didn't know there was a waiting period of a couple of decades to be 'fully converted'. Is there a little coloured bar that measures your progress like in video games?
Epic friend, now go bother somebody else.
also
>>81603083
Austrain friend, don't you have someone to reply to, hmm?
>>81599048
>>81598374
>>81602270
>Why are the Niceans the authority on what tru crishianity is and why doesn't your god come down and confirm it to put an end to all those false sects like the protestants?
Why would he even the jews had false traditions when christ came. We al belief in christ even the mormons
>>81602270
> why doesn't your god come down and confirm it to put an end to all those false sects like the protestants?
Because protestantism is a human invention. The info protestants need to redeem is already available to them, it is up to them to mend their ways. God doesn't repeat himself if not necessary.
>>81603968
>I won't answer you first question
Why not?
>I'm just about done with you
I was done with you ever since you started calling me things I most likely wouldn't be based on the things I'm criticising, but that didn't stop me from posting with you, did it?
>God as the son will not come again on earth until the armageddon
Something that should've already happened according to
>Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16:28)
and it didn't.
Maybe what you're doing isn't worshipping da truf but seeking refuge in a faith that makes your feefees tingle the right way?
>>81604282
>We al belief in christ even the mormons
>>81604657
>Because protestantism is a human invention
????
If anyone is still here, I'll ask any question. I've considered myself a Christian for a long time and done quite a lot of research and reading in apologetics and theology. I generally can respond to atheists' questions and other skeptics, although I have mostly destroyed my own faith in the process (which proves I'm efficient, if anything).
>>81604855
>????
Protestants came up with a different version of christianity, that didn't come from apostolic succession but from their earthly wishes of neglecting spiritual authority. Their version of Christianity is a human invention, a pervertion of christianity, albeit it still preserves certain characters of it. Protestantism makes it harder for a protestant to go to heaven, a lot harder, because by getting further away from the Truth they get further away from Christ. That was satan's goal.
>>81604713
call you things? like what?
Just because I said fuck doesn't mean my argument is invalid
>Something that should've already happened
there's no precise date for his second coming bro
Just fucking stop, you're obviously ignorant of this subject and I do not with to have further conversation with you. Next time do some research before starting a 2 hour argument on a thing you do not know much about instead of spouting how le cristianity is a jewish trick guys and expect no resistance
>>81604123
How high was Alaric's faith stat? How high would it have to be for him to count as a Christian in your eyes?
>>81604713
>>Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16:28)
That is the worse example that it was near
oh look they went to heaven
The Transfiguration
(Matthew 17:1-13; Luke 9:28-36; 2 Peter 1:16-21)
1And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
2And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. 3And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. 4And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus. 5And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 6For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid. 7And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him. 8And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves.
>>81581017
No muslimfags are. And you, of course.
Your example is from the old testament you retard.
>>81605347
>Protestants came up with a different version of christianity,
Catholics have a version of Christianity that doesn't even match Christ's direct words. Christ allows divorce, very clearly, yet the Church does not. Christ never baptises or converts children, yet the Church does it.
Catholics also have no reason to assume they had any special authority over the Orthodox Church, originally all were the same Church and the bishop of Rome only became the Pope because he had military power, which other bishops had not.
Unless you think the Holy Spirit says to rape children, you cannot believe that the Catholic Church is led by It.
>>81605402
>call you things? like what?
Jew, marxist, libtard communist apoligist are the ones I can name you from the top of my head.
You're still not answering the question.
>>81605592
>oh look they went to heaven
You don't go to Heaven before you taste death. There are many cases where both Christ and Paul give false prophecies. Both involve the people listening not being dead before Christ comes back. Biggest error in the Bible, a fatal one.
>>81605937
I don't know if you realize, friend, that you've been talking to two italians
>>81605592
>1And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
>verily
That is code meaning Jesus isn't speaking in metaphors.
The kingdom of God coming with power isn't you or anyone dying and going to Heaven, it's literally the Second Coming, Christ coming back, and not alone. This hasn't happened in 2000 years, and a man's average lifespan is not that long.
There are no excuses and no way to rationalise around it. I've tried it all. Christ and Paul were wrong. While this may not cancel everything, if one has to admit that they could be wrong on such an important point, they could be wrong on anything else. Good luck keeping the faith with that in mind.
>>81605982
They got a vision of heaven , why else would jesus say it
1And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
>seen the kingdom of God come with power.
>seen
learn to read
>9And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.
>>81605798
>Catholics have a version of Christianity that doesn't even match Christ's direct words
lol no
>Christ allows divorce
he doesn't, he literally says the opposite in clear letters
>very clearly, yet the Church does not
Good
> Christ never baptises or converts children
He got baptised to show us we had to do it, and he literally says "9Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" in Matthew 28:19
>originally all were the same Church and the bishop of Rome only became the Pope because he had military power
Wrong, during Early Christianity the Western Empire was decadend, and the military and economical power was in the East
>
Unless you think the Holy Spirit says to rape children, you cannot believe that the Catholic Church is led by It.
I am pretty sure there are protestants who raped children too. Therefore protestantism is wrong too by your own judgement. We remain sinners even after accepting Christ in our lives and some are more sinful than others, that doesn't invalidate the dogma and the doctrine of the faith.
>>81605112
>although I have mostly destroyed my own faith in the process
So are you a christian or not? Tell us what you believe and what you are skeptical about.
>>81605112
Then you fail at it,, first rule of apologetics is the bible is always right.
if you already fell for the Matthew 16:28 trap you should not do apologetics
>>81608972
>first rule of apologetics is the bible is always right.
Playing life on easy mode must be nice.
>>81605112
That proves you're rational human being and not a brainwashed zombie who is programmed to never doubt the initial directive.
>>81609617
>Playing life on easy mode must be nice
haha yes easy mode , just been trough hell for a decade by some unknown illnes , but the lord will pull me through this in the end
>>81610531
cs lewis has some nice quotes
>>81610820
That isn't how evolution works.
>>81610380
> unstudied illness
fixed.
And I'll leave it to you to guess why it isn't studied in 21th century yet.
>>81610820
>BAAAAWWW THE EVILUTION MEANS I'M NOT SPECIAAAAALLLLLL
God, why are christcucks always such whiners? Are they all secretly women or something?
