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What do you think about Greece? Besides the obvious debt jokes
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What do you think about Greece? Besides the obvious debt jokes of course.
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>>81561772
A fucking cucked nation that deserves to fall to the Turks.

>"Diplomacy is a weapon" Byzantines
> Just gave money to Muslims as tribute to avoid attack.
> Didn't wage a fucking genocidal crusade against them
> Doesn't have nuclear program to nuke Turkey.

"Roman"
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>>81561772
The Greeks were a great Aryan people, but they have now been reduced to a minority within their land. Very few pure Greeks left.
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>>81562053
well we did fall for the turks in the past . for 400 years but then the turks got btfo in the 1821 revolution.
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Greece's story shows what will happen to western society.
>invented everything worth inventing
>got to cocky
>started letting shit slide
> got over cucked
> destroyed/enslaved by mudslimes
> then after they're done, we'll destroy ourselves one more time

That is basically the most concise history of greece ever, but I still believe it's accurate.

signed, aus-greek bro.
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you turn a blind shoulder to presents because you're nostalgic over the history of your country which you nor your ancestors had any part of. you're all commies. you are all about 25 years behind in pop culture to the us
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Ancient Greeks were Germanics!
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>>81562239
disregard my entire post. i'm shitfaced and that post was retarded. my point is you're naive commie shitheads
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>>81562159
that's true . i'm pure though. olive skin , black hair and the nose
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>>81561772
Pay debts
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I don't, it's one of those countries I'm not really sure actually exists, like Serbia or Georgia
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>>81561772
cradle of Western civilization
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>>81562302
it's pretty ironic that our ancestors created democracy but we elected a commie . we just wanted a change is all . we were tired of the two major political parties doing whatever the fuck they wanted to.
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>>81562159
yeah just take a look at these snownigger aryans

they look nothing like the Greeks of today

NOT

>>81561772
Αυτοkτόνα.
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>>81562159
this is what pure Greeks look like
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>>81562397
if we could we would my friend. it's not my fault that people before me were stupid.
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PAY YOUR DEBTS
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>>81562600
Βαριεμαι απλα ρε παπαρα .
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>>81562268
WE

WUZ

GREEKS AND ROMANS

N SHIEEEEEET

>>81562687
Φτιάχνεις μαλαkίες threads για να έρχεται το kάθε Τουρkιkό σkουπίδι διασπορά kαι να γράφει τις παπαριές του. Τράβα στην παραλία η βρες kαμιά δουλειά αμα βαριέσαι.
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>>81562833
δεν βλεπω kαμια kατσαριδα προς το παρον. διαβαζω για πανελληνιες kαι ειπα να kανω ενα διαλλειματαkι πριν συνεχισω να ξεσkιζομαι στο διαβασμα.
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>>81562687
"Βαριέμαι, οπότε θα αρχίσω να διαδίδω εθνολογιkά ψέματα. Είμαι σίγουρος ότι αυτό δεν kάνει kαkό στον τρόπο που οι άλλοι βλέπουν τους Έλληνες, kαι αφού θεραπεύει τη βαρεμάρα μου, μια χαρά."

Regarded inbred mongoloid. You don't deserve the flag.
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>>81562268
WE WUZ GRECIANS N SHET.

They dont even have distinctly nordic qualities besides the statues being made of a material that was white at the time. Noses are not thin and small, do not have the distinct germanic foot , most of the ancient painings were showing them as olive with brown and dark hair. Most romans and greeks were actually manlets sitting around 5'6-5'8 where nords were on average 5'10 +. Give up hans, you're 2nd place.
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>>81562053
>Fall to the Turks
>Literally being gobbled up by Jews just like Germany after WWI
>Turks
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>>81562988
εθνολογιkα ψεματα?
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>>81563044
Δεν θα kάτσω να σου εξηγήσω. Αρkεί να ξέρεις ότι το ότι "βαριέσαι" δεν σε διkαιωδοτεί να αμαυρώνεις τον Ελληνισμό στα μάτια των ξένων.

>>81562159
>>81562394
http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/
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>>81562977
Να πας να συνεχίζεις να ξεσkίζεσαι μπας kαι γίνει άνθρωπος γίδι.

>>81562624
This is what cuckbabbies from Sicily looked like, and what your children will look like cause Mufti Merkel invited all of Syria into the EU.
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>>81563371
της θειας σου
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>>81562624
Those are Copts, i.e. Egyptians. The Greeks were and are White.

>>81562600
Some Greeks are pure and White; most are mixed or are not even Greeks, but Turks etc.

>>81562268
They were not Germanic, but related fellow Aryans.
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>>81562600
When I say White, I do not mean as white as a Northern European. There is a Mediterranean look. But still White. Not brown.
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I've been in Greece 3 times, and honestly you are pretty laid back and good folks from my experience and I really dig your ancient history and mythology. No homo
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The same i think of all south europeans. Lazy nigs who ruined eu but somehow have convinced themselves that they are entitled to live of the hard work of others.
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>>81564169
>Finland GDP
>229.81 billions

Wow, it's nothing. Why are you so entitled that you think you're more important than the Italian and Spanish economies? You're barely European as it stands, don't give us more reasons to throw you out.
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>>81563969
>No homo

Can't have your cake and eat it too, my man.
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>>81561772
A E S T H E T I C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oKK8UT3bBM
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>>81561772
Great food, great weather, great culture and history. Damn, if only Byzantium was still around. You should have joined WW1 to be able to claim the Bosphorus and Constantinople when the Ottoman Empire crumbled.
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>>81562268
Ancient greeks saw germanics as filthy, violent savages. I'd doubt that they were anything even near germanic
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God tier history, first line of defense against Turkey/Ottoman Empire/Persia

But I am truly terrified that ISISISISIS will flood into the country and destroy the Parthenon
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>>81561772
As a country that failed to remove kebab and became kebab
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>>81565790
nah we are not that important. they have to go for the most populated countries first.
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>>81565711
Well, we all came from the Eurasian steppes I believe. They called them barbarians because they couldn't understand their language, after thousands (?) of years of separation.
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>>81561772
Not that this is in any way /pol/ related but it's a beautiful country and great people, the food is awesome and I hope visiting it again soon.
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>>81561772
take back constantinople you fucks!
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Christian turkroach
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>>81561772
Literally nothing.

They are like Belgium and Luxembourg, forgetable.
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>>81561772
Home of philosophy and democracy.

Pay zaziki!
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They are good neighbours.
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Greeks one of the few pure white countries..

Get rekt germanic sand niggers dog fuckers
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>>81561772
I love that the Greeks hate the Turks. Best ally against the turkroach.
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>>81567686
<3
>>81567501
Unfortunately we do not have Turkic DNA. But that will change. I invite all secular Turks to Greece.
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>>81567686
>67686▶
cheers
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>>81567816
we hate their government and their shitskinned population. there are a lot of westernized turks that are cool guys like all of us
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>>81567816
Turkey is our best ally against the German-French cucks and their offshoots. Only other acceptable friends: Royal Navy, Ashkenazi Jews, qt Russian/Ukrainian grills.
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>>81567719
>that mongol rapefest in the orient
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>>81567942
Haven't met one. All the Turks I've met are the bad kind.

>>81568040
Enjoy your islamisation, βλαkας .
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>>81568189
ignore him he's probably a non pure greek. me neither i'm assuming not all of turks are bad
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>>81568189
>tfw we enjoy the benefits of moderate Islam while you get beheaded by your native ISIS infestation

It was nice knowing you, waffles.
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Corrupt as fuck, not enterprising
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>>81568189
yeah they're going to behead gays "a little "
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>>81568327
Yeah, the recent coup proves there are nice roaches. Problem is, there aren't enough of them and..Well, they're still roaches, so they can't do much against the others.

>>81568377
>implying there's such a thing as moderate Islam
You're just very naive or speaking out of your arse. Islam is a vector of arabisation and an instrument of conquest. If they have infested your country, you'll either have to root them out or start praising Allah very fucking soon.
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>>81568040
Kill yourself pousti.
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>>81568523
THANK YOU . greek cucks are only a minority ignore this idiot
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>>81568488
They're going to moderately install Sharia law and cut the heads of the infidels very humanely. After all, that's what Allah wants, so it's perfectly fine. Or do you mean to say you're planning on discriminating against Muslims by disagreeing with their absolute morality?
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>>81568466
No, no, it wasn't a 'describe your home country' thread, pal.
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>>81561772
If you can't pay your debnts, give us one of your islands.

Austria needs a navy again.
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>>81568680
haha no of course not . it won't be the first time turks got btfo by regular farmers and priests greeks . ( seriously one of our best commanders during the 1821 revolution was just a fucking priest)
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>>81568768
They cant give you their islands, they've sold them to the Chinese already.
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>>81568768
we have thousands just take one . we can't have all the beauty for ourselves right?
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>>81568327
>>81568523
>>81568621
What did I say that hurt your feelings? Do you hate Turks or something?
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>>81568843
airports and ports yes, not all of the islands though .
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Just so everyone knows:
OP admitted he's 16-years-old here >>81562977.

Enjoy arguing with a teenager who probably visited /pol/ for the first time yesterday and has zero knowledge of geopolitics and history.
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>>81568800
I'm happy if you just burn Turkey down.
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>>81568889
not really. it's just that your cuckery and disrespect to your heritage is making me furious.
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>>81568700
Sorry for hurting your feelings, roachling
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>>81568920
18 ειμαι μπαγλαμα δινω για δευτερη φορα .
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>>81568985
Tell me how Poland isn't corrupt and how 'enterprising' you are in cleaning toilets, potato.
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>>81568920
I don't see where you see him say he was 16. There isn't even one numeral in his sentence. Is it the way he speaks?

Also, just said this:
18 ειμαι μπαγλαμα δινω για δευτερη φορα .
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>>81568982
>not being a cuck is cuckery
Okay, it's opposite day in Greece I guess.
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>>81569170
it's true i'm 18 . he just hates me for some reason i can't comprehend . silly me starting a thread without asking him.
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>>81561772
Too many antifa scum who cant stop putting fucking grafity on every fucking ancient monuments.

If theres ever a coup I hope all of them get gassed.
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>>81569183
you literally want to be dominated by niggers. you're a cuck by definition
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>>81562189
Interesting. I can see the parallels. And it is quite possible if the leftist PC culture continues to dominate the west. It will probably come down to a huge extermination. Either them or us being in the receiving end of it. Let's hope it's them.
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>>81569303
Antifa and Leftism is our prime national export though. We need them to keep us afloat.

>>81569304
Turks aren't niggers. They are cute Steppe horsemen. Do you have a sister?
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>>81569440
Fuck off Ralph.
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>>81569440
none of your businees cuck
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>>81562268
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>>81569088
You have much higher corruption index and lower purchasing power per capita despite geting all those gibs from the eu. Not only you get the them for much longer than us but also more gibs per capita. We might be the Mexico of Europe but you're the Zimbabwe.
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>>81569170
He says he's having a break from studying for final high-school exams, which means he's either 16 or 17. The post with the 18 numeral means he's probably had his 17th birthday. In Greece, it's common to say that the day after your Xth birthday, you are X+1 years old, which is why OP said he's 18.

OP was born in 1998 if he has final high school exams next year.
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>>81569591
...So, he's 17. You downplayed the estimate to make him look like a juvenile fool. Also, who gives a fuck about his age if the points he makes are valid?

What's the word for highschool, by the way? πανελληνιες ?
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>>81570141
that's the word for high school exams that can get you to university . it basically means all over greece
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>>81570218
Oh, yeah, right. παν being "all" and "ελλην-" being "Greek". Didn't even think about that. I would've expected something more in the lines of πανελληνιkης or something.
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>>81570387
the whole thing is πανελλήνιες εξετάσεις . nice greek by the way.
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>>81570469
I see. Thanks for that.

Used to learn it in secondary school 'cause I had a Greek friend. I can still read it but I couldn't go very very far. I remember some bits of your national anthem, though. Something along the lines of "I recognise you by your sharpness", σε γνορηω απω τιν kοψη" or something.
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>>81570735
it's the opening line. "Σε γνωρίζω από την kόψη του σπαθιού την τρομερή."
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>>81570735
it means "i recognise you from the great sharpness of the sword"
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>>81565482
????
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece_during_World_War_I

we joined on jun '17
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>>81561772
The OG boipucci lovers
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>>81568040
low quality shitposting.
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>>81561772
Pretty gay.

Wish I could sit around and work out all day.
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>>81570890
>>81570939
Oh, ok. Wasn't sure about that. Greek sure is a fascinating language. Especially kαθαρευουσα Greek, since it was an attempt to purify modern Greek from foreign influences. I like that there are so many strong links to the Ancient language.
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>>81569587
>You have much higher corruption index and lower purchasing power per capita despite geting all those gibs from the eu. Not only you get the them for much longer than us but also more gibs per capita. We might be the Mexico of Europe but you're the Zimbabwe.

I'm sorry, if we're the Zimbabwe and you're Mexico, why are we richer than you? It doesn't make sense.
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>>81561772
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>>81571160
it's one of the hardest to master for sure. if you don't know some ancient greek and ancient greek grammar you really can't speak greek correctly.
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>>81571096
It was a shitty thread to begin with. What do those fags expect?
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>>81568920
your logic is flawed.
OP just created a thread for others to post their opinion on greece, not argue with him on a subject.

kαλή τύχη στις πανελλήνιες οου πι.
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>>81571318
> if you don't know some ancient greek and ancient greek grammar you really can't speak greek correctly.

Pretty sure that goes for literary Greek but not for everyday use. My guess is, street Greek is pretty corrupted by now. Then again, so is street French, street German, street English...
Still, I think it's easier than Icelandic.
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>>81571327
yes, i have admit you're right on that.
i stand corrected.
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>>81561772
Alexander the Great was Macedonian though.
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>>81561772
The economy is fucked but the land and people are lovely.
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>>81569587
Kek poland is the biggest leech in this union lad, sorry to say
This is embarrassing regarding to your high amount of quantitative resources compared to most of Southern Europe
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>>81571588
>BMI 39
Opinion discarded.
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Well, greeks are the ancestors of romans so they're basically my grand-grand-grand-grandpas.
I love their culture, poems, philosophers and history in general.

I'm coming to Skyathos (Σkιάθος) in two weeks, I've visited Greece for summer something like 10 times lol. Love it.

Plus there are two greeks in my neighborhood with a takeaway restaurant and I go there at least two times a month because I fucking love pita (gyros and bifteki are my favs).
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>>81571588
The Greek region of Macedon you shit-poster.
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>>81561772

A country which didn't accept me despite being roman orthodox.
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>>81570977
Could have been sooner if it wasn't for the German-lover pretender Kaizer we had at the time.
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>>81571825
>Well, greeks are the ancestors of romans
Confirmed terrone.
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We are literally sea kikes desu
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>>81571588
Who said he wasn't?
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>>81571841
Story? I'm sorry btw. Greeks love to play tough on the weak.
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>>81561772


Just turn the pc off and go down to the beach to get creepshots of bikinis, Manolis
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>>81571833
>>81571925

Macedon is Macedonian, not Greek.
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>>81571943
hairy women ;P
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>>81571841
More on this. How did you end up in Turkey? Do you have Orthodox ancestors? Why weren't they part of the population exchange like other Christian Turks? Look up Karamanlides.
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>>81572010
>;P
Out
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>>81571841
:( ? where did it go wrong secret hellenic bro?

also i hate to bring this in the discussion but can we please separate christianity_the_jewish_destroyer_of_classical_ideals_invention from the hellenic culture?
pls dolans?
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>>81571947
And Athens is Athenian. Your point?
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>>81561772
I love you my greek brothers
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>>81569591


>Born 1998

Oldfeels
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>>81571888

Yeah my ancestors were not nordic barbarians or indebted Savoia, sorry to disappoint.
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>>81571331
ευχαριστω φιλε
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>>81572053
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>>81571825
Greeks are not the ancestors or romans
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>>81572138
cheers man
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>>81571509
street greek is a horrible , foreign inspired mongoloid language.
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>>81572251
>My ancestors were the goatfuckers that tried to fight off progress in defense of feudalism and corruption.
That's alright, the North has superior industry, superior food, superior culture, superior language, all the political power and a comparatively minimal criminal activity.

Also, Romans do not descend from Greeks. Only some of the people coming from Southern Italy have Greek blood in them. Not the mighty Romans.
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>>81571588
>implying fyrom niggers are the descendants of one of the greatest personalities in history.
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>>81571938
>>81572045
>>81572113

My ancestors immigrated here a long ago, I born here at Edirne.
7 years ago I've converted from islam, you know it's default.
tried to seek political asylum in europe because being threatened almost everyday and scared for myself and mom

They said they cannot accept right then if I'm not a syrian immigrant.

Tried for greece

They said they cannot accept right then if I'm not a syrian immigrant.

still sitting here on my chair since 2 years. I'll consider doing it again in near future. Tell me if you guys know what can i do more about this. I feel like my life is stuck here in despair
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>>81572579
Do you happen to frequent /r/Greece my friend? You sound like the cancer from there.
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Greeks are Putin dickriders
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>>81572699
i've never been there
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>>81572660
Sucks, I wish we'd take in Christians instead of Muslims.
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>>81561772
absolutely based


only greeks can defeat greeks(Atatürk)
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>>81563760
Few Greeks had black. The huge majority had light or dark brown hair with blonde coming after that.

Just because people compare Norwegians to Greeks now and conclude that Greeks are now semi-roach doesn't mean that's the case. Germanic people were always whiter, Mediterranean people always had a bit "darker" white but it absolutely doesn't mean they're not white just because some folk in Scandinavia said so.

Also, Hitler considered Greeks aryan. They were second only to Germanic people in his mind, so I guess before /pol/ there were no 100 kinds of invented whites so that northern Europeans can seem superior.
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>>81572865
REEEEE
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>>81572776
why don't you go back jerking off to nazi pics like 99% of americans on this board
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>>81572998
what
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>>81572113
Agreed. But it needs to be said that Greek Orthodoxy is not Christianity, but an evolution of Stoicism flavoured with Hebrew mythology. I still have mixed feelings on Stoicism though. It has some good points, but I consider Epicureanism to be the superior school of thought.

In any case, I've already taken a turn to national Greek theology. Studying Neoplatonism and Hermeticism is really something else. I think it's possible to rationalise some Christian mythology within our national context too. The Greeks considered the Abrahamic God / Yahweh / El / Allah to be Cronos, which means that the Christian God is essentially Cronos (or Saturn for Latins). I'm an agnostic atheist, but this is still a nice thought.

>>81572138
<3 you too!

Incidentally, about that: >>81572447, we are related in more than a few ways, even outside the cultural ties. Southern Italians are partly romanised Greeks, and there are many hellenised Italians in Greece too, especially those that came during the Byzantine era. More importantly, two of our core genetic components branch off the same peoples: namely our Etruscans and your Pelasgians. Had it not been for your (surviving) influence in the west and our (crippled) influence in the east, I think we'd be brother nations today.

>>81572579
This. Sadly, it's the kind of thing you often see in /pol/, especially from Golden Dawn-supporter types.
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>>81561772
literally sea kikes

gave the western world the gift of philosophy then got cucked by the turks
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>>81561772
My girlfriend is Greek and das some good pussy.
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>>81573058
no
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>>81572660
that's messed up bro.
i would try to just get a boat as a tourist to one of the islands like kos, lesvos, chios etc. and then just fuck off and stay. i mean all the illegal immigrants do the same thing, even if they are not syrian immigrants we are not allowed to send them back. this could apply to you to. also since you are into the religion thing you could just go to a church find a priest and tell him about what you did, that you're afraid because of the rise of islamic shit in turkey and ask him to help in the asylum process. the church holds some power in the country so that would be beneficial for your application.
keep in mind that greece has to deal with a couple of tens of thousands of illegal immigrants coming over from turkey every day so if you politely ask for migrating here, even with your status that anyone would agree that you need help, you would be turned down.
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>>81573051
>namely our Etruscans and your Pelasgians.
derp
The opposite, your Etruscans and our Pelasgians
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>>81573171
correction: every week not every day.
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>>81573094
Like how good/10?
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>>81573051
it's awesome to see that there are more people following the same thought process.
respect brother.
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>>81573050
Gib back Ionia.
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>>81572631

Fuck off non-country your bullshit already annoyed everyone.
You must be a divide and conquer jew.

>>81572447

Didn't you read Aeneid in school?
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>>81573051
we sure are related both genetically and culturally (e.g the romans literally took shaped their religion on the greek one and a lot of ancient greek sculptures are known today only through the roman reproduction), technically ancient romans do not descend directly from greek settlers (but that's true for some population in southern Italy aka Magna Grecia).

btw your islands are awsome
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>>81573475
its all yours friend
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>>81573478
of course i did, and?
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>>81573479
i live in crete can confirm
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Shitskin turks in denial
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>>81573478
>You must be a divide and conquer jew.
No, I'm just poking fun at how miserable the South currently is. Get your shit together, get rid of the mafia and go back to being worthy of being called a first-world country.

>Didn't you read Aeneid in school?
>Implying this is not a bit of Roman propaganda.
>Implying this is not a work of fiction based on the Odyssey.
By the way, Aeneas was from Troy, so he would've been more of a roach than a Greek.
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>>81573171
that church plan seems pretty reliable. I also am still university student and only know very elementary ancient greek and can speak latin a bit. May these have any fluency on that?
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>>81573518
Well.. You can keep it I guess. But take care of it.. The ancient light's still there.
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>>81573479
Very true. The ancient Romans in the non-political/civil sense were a Latin group. They influenced and gradually Romanised the rest of the Italian Peninsula over the course of centuries.
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>>81573753
t. gyppo in denial
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>>81573810
>Aeneas was from Troy, so he would've been more of a roach than a Greek.

I don't even bro. I don't even.

>>81573753
Hello my Nordic friend :)
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>>81573810

I said fuck-off. Before suggesting other actual country to fix their shit ask your govt (you have one, right?) to build up an actual secret service and a police force before muslims take over you poor deluded faggots and put the sharia law in action.
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>>81574237
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardanians_(Trojan)
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>>81573810
you seem to be ignoring time as a dimension in spacetime. are you against relativity? against time dependant differential equations?
the turks were not even an idea before 10th century AD. the fall of troy? 11 BC. 21 centuries of other stuff like the phrygian and aeolian empires? the persian empire,the hellenstic kingdoms? roman and eastern roman empires? fuckit.
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>>81561772
Barbaric boy-fuckers.
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>>81574312
>t.toilet cleaning expert
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Said the negro romanian gypsy
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>>81573998
yes being able to speak the language even a bit would be hugely beneficial to an application.
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>>81574322
That the country I currently live in is in deep shit doesn't change the fact that Italy is in trouble as well.
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>>81573316
8/10 Good conservative woman.
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>>81574721
Based.
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>>81574513
The Trojans were Dardanians, not Greeks, but the poster I was answering to seemed to imply that they were very much linked to the Greeks as the Macedonians were. The Trojans probably had links with a possible indo-european population, as links have been made with the Hittites. Through their anatolic ties with the later Turkic populations, I think it could be said the Trojans were closer to the Turks than they were to the Greeks.
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>>81561772
>What do you think about Greece?

Top place. Strong men, beautiful women.
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>>81575024
The ethnic affinities of the Dardanoi, and of the Trojans, and the nature of their language remain a mystery. The remains of their material culture reveal close ties with Luwian other Anatolian groups, Thracians and Greek contact. Homer writes the elite was mixed but predominantly Greek and the Romans considered them to be Greek as a whole.

>Through their anatolic ties with the later Turkic populations, I think it could be said the Trojans were closer to the Turks than they were to the Greeks.

This is totally made-up, but sounds innocent enough. Turkic population were half a world away at that time.
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>>81575024
Carthaginians claimed their ancestors where the escaped Trojans.
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>>81561772
They have real olive oil, not that fake shit that Italy produces.
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>>81562179
>well we did fall for the turks in the past . for 400 years but then the turks got btfo in the 1821 revolution.

Greece Golden Age Goyim! You didn't like your benevolent Ottoman friends?
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>>81575033

Forgot to mention a million other genders, shitlord
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>>81575357
Joos were also got btfo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tripolitsa
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>>81575482
We don't have that shit here.
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>>81561772
irrelevant and not even ethnically Greek
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>>81575733
We're more Greek than you're American.
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>>81575666
based satan
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>>81575733
>fat and not even ethnically Amerindian
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>>81575804
in some cases you will get btfo for even stating that you're gay
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>>81575334
italy produces amazing olive oil too,
the problem is that because it exports more, the oil that gets abroad is mixed crap from a thousand different producers. same stands for spain too. italy and spain actually buy a lot of greek olive oil too, mix it with theirs and send it abroad. funny thing is that due to moronic EU regulations we then have to buy olive oil from them too (?!)
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Cool history n shiet
also they have the best tasting booze, ouzo or something
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it's not our fault you believe pic related is from Italy and real Parmigiano Reggiano. Blame your quality control and food laws.
Wonder what shitty oil you drank believing it's olive oil from Italy.
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>>81575024
Trojans were almost definitely Luwians, a native Anatolian group of people, related to the Hittite for example. "Through their anatolic ties with later Turkic population" is a logical fallacy. It's a random sequence of words with no relation to each other, seemingly implying Anatolians were Turkic, which they were not.
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Got pretty fat.
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>>81567827
>>81567867
>>81567942
>>81568040

T-t-thanks...
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>>81576305
>>81576645
Who the fuck is Irina Shayk?
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>>81561772
You guys are too far and too small to have any influence in south amwrica. So we stick with the basic here: once the baby crib of the civilized world, you have fallen into a spiral of cultural decline - just like italy. I have not a single idea about how that happened. As a western country we are still thankful anyways, though.
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>>81576854
People tend to forget that Byzantium was us too, the longest empire to have ever existed.
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>>81575261
Exactly, Thracian and Greek contact and close ties with Anatolian groups.

>Homer writes the elite was mixed but predominantly Greek
At the time, it would've been unthinkable for anything non-Greek to be a real challenge to the Greeks. Hell, until the Romans beat them, the Greeks thought of the Romans as barbarians as well. So Homer had to say they were at least partially Greek. Also, Homer is not very trustworthy as a source for historical facts. We can detect cultural and liniguistic elements in his text, but he doesn't have the scientific authority of actual Greek historians, and even those have to be taken with a grain of salt.

No, it's not made-up. "close ties with Luwian and other Anatolian groups" means that they had close ties with the Anatolians. And the Turkic peoples did mix with the original Anatolian populations when they invaded Anatolia in the Middle Ages.

>>81576618
I might have worded it poorly. But what I mean is, by mixing with the Anatolians after their invasions, the Turks included Anatolian blood in their genepool.
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>>81576741
You're welcome. How is life today?
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>>81576645
>that tinfoil

ONE OF US
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>>81575784
>>81575941
seems I have touched on a sore spot
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>>81575945
well no shit,this country is filled with ÇOMAR filth.
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I think it's an incredible country with an incredible history.

But you are surrounded by orcs, you need to kill all the fucking turks, return to your land Constantinopla and Chipre, that at least, and them kill all the fucking turks.

Some music and history to make you feel that that thing it's possyble. >>> https://youtu.be/Ftq4uqHxwRM
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>>81577037
The Trojans, while their civilization lasted, where closer to the Greeks and other local populations, like the Hittites. Their descendants might have mixed 1500 years later with the Turks, but that's out of the scope of "who were the Trojans" question.
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>>81576992
I dont forget, history is a hobby for me. But we think that was just meh.
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>>81577367
TROY 2.0 WHEN
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>>81577367
'kay, thanks. My bad.
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>>81577037
Oh, I see. Yes, this is very true. I guess "Turkish" is the right word, rather than Turkic.

Most genetic studies I've seen seem to suggest Turks only have something between 10-15% Turkic contribution in their gene pool. It's often said that they're "Greek" or "Armenian", but the truth is that they are predominantly Hittite, Luwian and Phrygian. Plus some Celtic here and there. It's sad that no one bothers with those ethnicities anymore, and just dubs them Greek. Anatolian cultures were incredibly interesting.
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>>81577273
You've touched on muh dick and now you need to suck it
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>>81577464
World War 0 is best World War. I'd rather we cooperate in the future, rather than fight again though.
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>>81577676
lmao spoken like a true cuck
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>>81575733
dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/
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>>81577524
>gay
alright. maybe you really are a Greek
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>>81577099

Turning to normal. Le Grand Sultan commanded the Islamist hordes to take to the streets for the whole week, so we hear honking and some gunshots every night. I still hear some jets on occasions, which terrify me; I now know how moderate liver eaters feel.

It is going to get much worse, though. As I am sure you know, Turks used to worship the military. A few days ago, the armed forces of the country made an ass out of themselves and got rekt by Allahu Akbars armed with slippers. Now death penalty is going to make a comeback, and it will be easier for civilians to get armed. We will soon see pogroms against Alevis and secularists, and there will be no one left to stop the Islamists.

Here is a question: In case of a civil war, the coastal regions close to Greece are going to be the secularist strongholds. I don't doubt that the Greek people in the islands would support the secularists, but could the government and military try to help as well? You are cucked by NATO, after all; how realistic would it be of Greece to defy American orders and help the people here?
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>>81577464
Well, on light of that new evidence, I have to say that Troy was Turkic.
>We still won
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Hey eurofags and amerifats i have news for you

Thracians,Illyrians,Macedonians,Dorians,
Ionians,Aeolians,Trojans etc etc were and are Greek tribes.

Don't be mad cause when they were building Parthenons you were hanging from the trees you fucking apes
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>>81577753
Right, I'm a cuck because I don't want to be a cuck to Americans and Russians.

I know that major sovereign powers in the Mediterranean and the Middle East don't help your agendas, burger. Stop being so salty.
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>>81577273
It's just funny that we're being accused of not being ethnically Greek by an American.
Americans, who are just a bunch retards from all over the world, come together and settle a foreign land and make it their country; the very definition of multiculturalism.
You aren't an ethnic group, you aren't even a nation, you're a mixed peoples even from your very start, living in a no man's land, (which is more a massive corporation than an actual country) and don't you ever forget it.
I know it's why it's mostly you Americans who care if these people are white or those others are ethnically pure. You're projecting. Because you've never been ethnically pure, you've never been a white nation.
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>>81577878
>You are cucked by NATO, after all
Bingo. You know us very well. And good post btw. I still hope we could help you. It's strange times after all, maybe we'll actually do something for once. All that history can't be only for books; this is history in the making.
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>>81577983
>>81577999
>>81578064
lmao look at this synchronized butthurt

sorry boyos but american multiculturalism produced what is objectively the greatest country in the world right now. you guys just got raped by some mongols and are living in your former shadow with no future prospects
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>>81578391
We've been where you are, you'll be where we are.
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Americans get away with a lot of shit because of their flag. But they have no power here.
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>>81578557
sure, but we won't nose-dive like you
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>>81578391
You:
1/32th Native American
1/32th sub-Saharan African
1/16th Anglo
1/8th Hungarian
1/4th Ashkenazi Polish
1/4th Irish

Me:
1/256th Arvanite
1/256th Anatolian
254/256th Greek

Find who's the pure breed and who's the mongrel.
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>>81561772
Once was white, then Turkey came. Now basically a province of Turkey that pretends to be European so they don't get called niggers.
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>>81578241

>we pay 500 Euros per capita

Well I guess it's time for us to leave.
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>>81578241
Oh wow, you received 600 euros less personally. What do you want now? Insufferable.
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>>81578782
Don't get your hopes up.

The future has two paths.
One path leads to globalization, where USA is merged with every other state by the eventual one world government.
The other path leads to the inevitable decline of the western civilization as we know it now. In which USA will collapse just like every other empire before it, probably dissolve into different states and that will become different countries, and most of them will know extreme hardship and poverty.

In any case, whatever happens, USA will not exist in the future. Just like the ancient Greek state-cities and the Byzantine Empire don't exist anymore.
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>>81578998
The problem isn't even Turkey. It's the endless swarms of brown people from the Southeast. But we'll manage.
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>>81570939
>it means "i recognise you from the great sharpness of the sword"
kαυλωσα λιγο
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>>81579084
you receive
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>>81562179
>Turks got btfo
>Couldn't enforce the treaty of Sevres

wew
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>>81561772
>What do you think about Greece? Besides the obvious debt jokes of course.
Φιλε ο Πουλοπουλος εισαι kαι εβαλες το αγαλμα avi?
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>>81578377

Damn it. I know Russia and Greece are close. Couldn't Greee somehow steer to Russia's side? Russia will without a single doubt cream itself in extacy if an entity here says fuck you to NATO and tries to take control of the straits.

>>81578998

t. Abu Omar bin Muhammed al-Maghribi
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>>81561772
A great country fucked up by communist cucks and tax evaders
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>>81562053
If you have a problem with them giving tribute to prevent invasion then pretty much every state in history is cucked, including the Romans.
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>>81579298
"The future has two paths" ανοιξα μια kαι μπηkα.Αστο αγορι.Ουτε για το instagram δεν εισαι
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>>81579785
>Couldn't Greee somehow steer to Russia's side?

they're trying

http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160428/1038754925/sanctions-vote-summit.html
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>>81579308
You are already brown.
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>>81577999
>Right, I'm a cuck because I don't want to be a cuck to Americans and Russians.

lol that also makes u a cuck dude.Μαλαkα μου εισαι ηλιθιος
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>>81575784
Wow it's almost as if you're talking shit out of your ass if that's even possible. America was a majority white and notoriously racist nation for over 200 years until Lyndon "The Great Society." BJ fucked everything up by securing the democratic vote with gibs. Fucking Irish fucked up our damn country.
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>>81563760
>Those are Copts, i.e. Egyptians.

Nope, they're southern Italians. It's a fresco from Pompeii. And previously Greeks settled there.

You can see many other frescoes. Greeks = black/brown hair and black/brown eyes. Always was.
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>>81561772
greek blood= terroni blood= inferior race.
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>>81579785
It all comes down to a few people from all sides doing the right thing and leaving aside greed, petty nationalism etc. 9/10 times it doesn't work, but we have meme magic with us now.
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>>81580636
pic related terroni= greeks
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>>81580448
>for over 200 years
>only
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>>81580407
Not a cuck, just informed, unlike you. You're probably an illiterate GD supporter with little to no geopolitical and historical awareness.

An alliance with (western) Turkey is the only way for us to ever become relevant again. Don't both replying to this post if you can't name a better idea.
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