>be Croatian American diaspora
>Want Croatian dual citizenship
>Contact consulate
>You need birth certificate, documents from parents, written biography
>Ok sure
>Also you need to be a member of a Croatian club for a while, you need to speak the language fluently we will also quiz you on the history
And this is why the jews always win. You simply have to prove you are a Jew and they will pay to fly you to Israel. Meanwhile this small country of 4 million that produces nothing has tough immigration requirements as bad as the US. Why?
>>81473895
Because they just simply do. If you're too retarded to learn another language then you should stay in the US and have no sense of cultural identity whatsoever. Remember, you're an "American" ;^)
>>81473895
Because we don't want people who aren't serious. Since anyone who emigrates is comiting an act of treason against his country a little bit of discomfort in obtaining your papers is nothing.
We are not under any circumstances obliged to drop on our knees and make it easy for you, Mr Rich American Expat
>>81473895
>Also you need to be a member of a Croatian club for a while
This part is interesting.
>>81475278
I like both countries. Why not both?
>>81475509
See Mr. Condescending the problem here is Croatia is a small country hemorrhaging thought power. Even long time Croats leave and never come back since you don't have any opportunity there. They should jump on the opportunity for the opposite at least for the time being until their country stabilizes. Your unfounded arrogant xenophobia is a major issue with the country today
It produced your worthless ass, pice of shit.
>>81476098
>Worthless
No I do very well and I love both countries. I am not fluent in Croatian because I literally have no opportunity to use it here and no one hosts classes on it but continue being irrationally butthurt.
>>81473895
>Croatia
Dont you mean Serbia?
>>81476065
Reading through your posts, I can see you know nithing about croatia.
You're gonna ace that test m8
>>81473895
Fuck off with your dual citizen nonsense.
I don't want Croafag citizenship. They're all crooks over there.
>>81476278
Prove it.
>>81473895
>be diaspora
>have no idea what the fuck is going on in the country
>still get to vote for whoever my 80 year old grandpa tells me to
every time
You need to know the language because it is not 'friendly" towards foreigners, e.g. you will find that many things are not translated and it doesn't help that an average middle-age person can barely understand a simple english sentence.
The Croatian history is shit, it's also one of the worst, if not the worst, subjects I had to endure through in school. So, have fun with that.
I honestly don't know what the deal with the 'clubs' is. What do they even mean by a "Croatian club"?
>>81473895
What's a croatian club, am I missing something? Also if you have no prior contact with the language, just give up, you wont learn it any time soon.
>>81476348
How do you know that I said nothing about the country. In 3 months maybe I an get myself up to speed for the language and history but what do I do about the club? I live in a part of the US where when I explain to people I have Croatian heritage they just look at me blindly so I just say I'm Italian now. There are no Croatian "clubs" anywhere? What the fuck o I do?
>>81476484
Prove what?
>>81476497
>>81476640
>he isn't a member of a Croatian club
>>81473895
>OP just proving the meme that Burgers think they are European
>H-H-hey guys I'm 1/8 German 1/8 French 1/4 Scottish 1/16 Czech 3/16 Seedish. I'm just like you guys!
Harsh reality burger - if you don't speak the language and latent part of the culture, you're not fucking Croat. Fuck off back to McDonalds.
>>81476640
>>81476497
Croatian club like a group that deals with something Croatian. Like a Croatian art club or Croatian sports club I dunno. We don't have that shit here. If you guys help me I'll help you come here illegally.
>>81473895
because otherwise they'd get flooded by shitskins who don't want to integrate
>>81476987
>Frenchie getting irrationally butthurt at Americans on behalf of other countries
every time
>>81476987
Both my parents were born there it's the only reason I have a shot. Also I know the language but terribly since I don't use it much. It isn't a widely used language even my Russian coworkers laugh at it and call it a bastardization of their language.
>Tfw croatian mexican
>tfw you have Croat passport and dual citizenship
>at a croatian club right now after church
Feels good brate.
>>81473895
Jesus, just because you lost the primaries doesn't mean you have to leave the country, Governor Kasich.
>>81477068
I like how all these Europeans in this thread are condescendingly lecturing me about this without a hint of irony. Maybe is should fly to Syria and then I can havey puck of whatever country to go to for free.
>>81476691
>>81476988
>croatian art club or croatian sports club
kek, better start learning the folk dance boi, its the only kind of club that is bound to exist.
The language learning is doable, but as any slavic language it'll be hard for an english-speaking person. If a Canadian can just randomly hop from canada to Croatia, barely know how to form a sentence and become a prime minister, I'm sure you'll do just fine.
One other classmate I had was born in Canada as well and was taught SLIGHT Croatian by his parents, they moved back in and he mostly learned the language by using it. In a year, you pretty much couldn't tell he's foreign
>>81477383
>huur though immigration is stupid an xenophobic! reeeeee why don't they let me in! RACISTS!
Is it your first day here?
>>81473895
>>81476065
>>81476278
My god you are retarded and don't have slightest idea of Croatian history. I don't know much about Croatia myself but it's common knowledge that Croatia and whole of Balkans was hell for most of recorded history since Rome. It had to defend against Turks, Italians, Austrians and had lots and lots of infighting. People there had to literally fight fists and teeth for their right to the land and to survive. You ancestors were one of fucking pussies that chose to run like a cowards instead of standing beside their brothers and sister in their struggle for freedom and survival. Your ancestors were betrayers! And now, when situation has stabilized and there is no imminent danger you think you can chose come back and be greeted as a brother?! You are son of fucking traitors! I bet if I tried to emigrate there, locals would be friendler to me than to you, because your bloodline already proved you can't be counted upon and if things get serious (as they very well might) you will just chuck your tail between your legs and run to your beloved america.
People here don't have your fucking "get rich" mindset, they have "we need to be strong to surivive" mindset. Because they had to to survive.
>>81473895
>we will also quiz you on the history
that should be short
>>81477383
he's right though. This country is half Bosnian now
>>81477497
I have this level of education though and when I used to spend my summers there I would become fluent. I just haven't been in about 5 years because post college it's tough to get time to go there. My sister did that folk dance shit god damn I don't want to do that maybe I can start a soccer club or something get hipsters to join and swear it's a Croatian only thing.
>>81477222
>bastardization of russian
All slav languages are similiar and they are extremely hard to learn.
>>81476691
> I just say I'm Italian now
You're a disgrace to your parents.
>>81477068
We still get flooded due to Merkel, but hopefully they'll jut leave when they see how few gibs they get here and how everyone hates non-whites.
>>81477222
Join a soccer club faggot in Canada we have shit ton of cultura shit such as Kolo,nogomet and church. At a croatian place right now desu very nice.
>>81477737
At least our history isn't recorded in Turkish.
>>81477721
Everything I am condescendingly being told Europeans aren't actually applying to themselves though is my point. Also I have 5 Croatian relatives that came here illegally and don't speak English so I dunno it's funny hearing me be attacked for this.
>>81473895
Fuck off! Why should you get citizenship if you don't even speak the fucking language or know nothing about the country's history?
>>81477733
Tldr
>>81478026
t. Abdul
>>81478026
I dunno why do you give citizenship to shitskins for literally the same reason? At least I'm white.
>>81477955
I'm going to Croatia soon if my area keeps being flooded I will sow my half mexican seed>>81477937
>>81477756
>>81476065
>I like both countries. Why not both?
with that mindset, i understand why croats dont want you back. you have no loyalty, no honor.
you want to go to croatia now, but when things get tough in croatia, you will instantly betray croatia and go running back to america.
>>81473895
Should have called back in 1991 pretty much everybody could get a Croatian citizenship. Everybody I know from Bosnia has one.
>>81478282
It'd the opposite Hanz, the US is shit so I want to go to Croatia. If the country gets invaded by Russians or Turks while I am there so be it I'll join the army.
>>81478282
this is a lot of projecting you're doing. Why are western Europeans so hostile to white Americans, holy fuck.
>>81477737
>that should be short
you wish. I wish it too
>>81477749
>I don't want to do that
learn to sing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMATdAVEoI0
>>81477733
in short, the history is a bunch of buttfucking and passing around croatia's land
>venice
>hungary
>habsburg monarchy
>ottomans
>yugoslavia
>ndh
>yugoslavia
it's a fucking mess that I still don't understand to this day
>>81478577
I don't get it. I'm not asking for a red carpet to be rolled out and I know if I live there I can't act like a nigger or spic and demand everyone speak American. I do have a lot of family there and can speak some. It's mainly the club thing that annoys me because where I live these are nonexistent. /sp/ and their flag elitism ruined a lot of discussion on these boards and it just trickles down to here.
>>81478466
Can't you come without citizenship, I think your case would be easily approved in Croatia if you live/work here (good luck with finding work, though)
>>81478415
Yeah, it's shit m8.
>>81476988
>If you guys help me I'll help you come here illegally.
Fuck off you Balkan piece of shit, we dont want your kind over here!
>>81478922
Nobody here would like to live in a nigger-ruled country.
>>81478880
I'm a computer programmer which thankfully is language agnostic. What is the market there like for that? All my cousins do over there is dig ditches or are farmers.
>>81473895
Make a demand at the French embassy, it delivers French papers to anyone in the universe. And without verifications ! Certainly it's not the dual citizenship that you would like, but it will be easier...
>>81478706
>croatia's land
>>81479051
Meanwhile in the real world I have tons of cousins here illegally and tons more inquiring to me if I can help them. There are Croatian areas in NY and Ohio filled to the brim with illegals. There is a church in NY if you contact as a Croatian they will help you come illegally.
>>81479057
You can't live here without the language and I doubt you'd get work without the language, the market is horrible and the state is still half-socialist.
>>81478853
It's because they see their countrymen just as people that speak the same language of them, that's why they're going to shit. imo if a Polish-American has a Polish surname, looks like a Pole, and has ancestors that defended Poland alongside mine through the centuries I don't see how they are any less of a Pole than me, even if they don't speak the language. Fuck this "horses born in garages are cars" leftist shit.
>>81479253
Serb bro is the citizenship process for you any easier and can I just sent I'm Serbian and not Croatian and get citizenship with you guys? Your team sound more rational at this point.
>>81479057
SDP will win the election join a coup for Hasanbegovic to be dictator then you can live peacefully
>>81473895
Not a member of a Croatian fraternal union lodge
give up pussy
>>81479399
Maybe I should try to get polish citizenship. I visited Szczecin recently and liked it.
>>81478466
>>81479057
>the US is shit so I want to go to Croatia
lol
if you're still serious then first save up money, as much as you can. You can apply to a larger bank or something, it can be pretty comfy and a lot of fun depending in which section you end up. Larger companies are as close to govt departments as you can get, and you do jack shit there for an above average paycheck
Lately, a lot of IT/programming job positions opened up in many companies
http://www.moj-posao.net/Poslovi/11/IT-telekomunikacije/
Also thanks for the offer, but USA doesn't seem as much of a land of opportunity as it did in the past
>>81479253
he better get used to calling it if he wants to pass that quiz
>>81479254
I support Trump and hate illegals, they're the scum of the earth.
>>81479445
kek
>>81479253
>Serbia
>lost against a country half its size without any armaments
>>81473895
Sranje..
>>81479253
Pay back the denbts Serbia still waiting for my JugoBanka & PBS money.
![top-100-billionaires-390x285[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QeOUAVR.jpg "top-100-billionaires-390x285[1].jpg")
>tfw Member of The Croatian Club
>Hanging out with my club mates every weekend playing golf and pin a knife on the shqiptar
>Driving around Dubrovnik in our exotic cars
>Drinking finest Rakija listening to Mitar Miric
You're missing out OP
>>81479835
I have 100k in the bank and $220,000 property I own that I could sell plus my dad has two houses there one in Zadar and one in Umag so I have a opportunity. The only thing holding me back is this citizenship and also I fucked this girl in Zadar years ago and my cousin said later on she became pregnant and it might be mine how do Croatian laws work about that? Can she get money from me?
>>81480140
>listening to Mitar Miric
kys Rakiticu
>>81473895
To keep out the lying shitskins
>>81480140
>Mitar Miric
Miric a shit
>>81480140
>mitar miric
kys
>>81480254
>>81480364
I've helped set up Oliver Dragojevic US tour when he played here and drank with him does that help my Croatian cred?
>>81473895
I have the same problem to get into England. I am 100% anglo saxon. My surname is that of large scottish clan. Both my grandfathers fought for the British Royal Navy during the second world war and both my great grandparents were high up employees of the British railway company responsible for building railway lines in South Africa and Rhodesia.
Still cannot get a citizenship.
>>81480725
Do they want you to join an English Club also? If so that's retarded.
>>81479735
Polish citizenship is pretty easy to obtain by blood. Polish-Americans without citizenship travelling here actually used to have problems with the Polish government literally just claiming them as citizens when they arrived.
>Poland has been enforcing with varying stringency its claims to citizenship allegiance from descendants of Polish emigrants and from recent refugees from Polish Communism who became naturalized in other countries. Under a particularly strict enforcement policy, named by the Polish expatriate community the "passport trap", citizens of the United States, Canada, and Australia were prevented from leaving Poland until they obtain a Polish passport.[10] The governments of the United States and Canada have issued travel warnings for Poland, still in effect in February 2007, to those "who are or can be claimed as Polish citizens"[11] that they are required to "enter and exit Poland on a Polish passport" and will not be "allowed to leave Poland until a new Polish passport has been obtained".[7]
>Travellers to Poland who have Polish ancestors are advised to obtain in writing a statement from a Polish Consulate as to whether or not they will face any obligations in Poland, such as military service, taxation, or the requirement to obtain a Polish passport.[10]
You cannot escape from Polishness.
The communist have been fucking diaspora for 90 years sorry m8.The history part isnt hard and if you have a club in your town just enrole the language part is tough do.
>>81480252
kek, I wouldn't know but also don't see how it's an issue.
Just run back to USA if she finds you.
The main point of saving up money is that it's a nice country to live in if you're rich.
Save up money -> work something stupid to earn pension -> live without any care for the rest of your life
It's what germans do
>>81480551
oh yes, especially if you'll be going to the coast.
In case you do go to Zadar, make sure to buy some Dinamo ZG T-shirts, scarfs, flags and whatever else you can find. People love that shit there
>>81480252
Dunno, possibly if it's proven yours, there's a bigger possibility of her family beating the shit out of you, though.
>>81480551
It helps only your cred with him, nobody cares here.
If you want the citizenship, come here and work for a living, as I said previously.
I think you shouldn't have a problem since your parents are Croats.
Also Zadar is, apart from Zagreb, the fastest developing city in Croatia.
>>81480868
No, my grandparents never registered my birth certificate at the British embassy so they wont even review my claim.
>>81480993
But I'm Hajduk fan......
we have it same here so what. you are not croatian american. you cant even speak language and know nothing about history. you are just american.
>>81481133
then ur shit
>>81481133
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Tornado Zadar was pretty based during the late 90s and early 00s
>>81481322
Proklet bio na bozic 2010¿¿¡¡¿!!!!
>>81481133
So you're into masochism?
I know that feel, bro
>>81481279
Faggot I was taught the language I just never have many opportunities to use it here how many times do I have to say this? If you speak anything other than English or Spanish chances are you won't get much practice on it in the US. I have language CDs but that's not the same. The only time my old man speaks Croatian is when he curses or wants to talk shit about people in public. When I was a kid and the police came because they were inspecting the complex over a robbery unrelated to us he told me in Croatian to go hide his guns. That's the extent to what I use it.
>>81476874
they don't understand that in order to bring along our heritage with us, we crated clubs, parks, etc...
we didn't just wholesale turn american or canadian or w/e when we left croatia. We assimilate fine, but many of us will never fully integrate or become whitewashed.
How can someone whose parents fled as a result of persecution and had little to no chance of being fully immersed in croatian culture expected to be fully fluent in the culture?
I use the wrong words once in a while in croatian and people laugh at me calling me a dumb canadian.
>>81481133
Ayy lamao marjane marjane ca heroin ne pucas.
>>81473895
>Also you need to be a member of a Croatian club for a while
Whoa... isn't this too much turbo folk loving of Croatia?
>>81481576
you are not entitled to croatian citizenship. if you rly want it then try harder. fuck off cunt.
>>81477222
croats don't understand that knowing another language other than english is seen as a disability in america
Go live in Rijeka trust me ;^}
>>81477497
folklore clubs are the biggest/most prominent but there still are many sports clubs
>>81473895
If any of your parents have a croatian passport go the the embassy they sign piece of paper you get your citizenship.
>>81480880
That's amazing
>implying any of this is bad
>>81481739
Kill yourself faggot I don't think the language thing or history thing is irrational but the club thing is. What if I lved in fucking Nigeria you think there are any Croatian clubs there?
>>81481576
>The only time my old man speaks Croatian is when he curses or wants to talk shit about people in public
oh man I can already imagine it
and as I already said, you need to come down here and have proper conversations, so either force your parents to talk to you in Croatian, or simply come for a month or two long "vacation" and try it.
You need the language. Noone other than classy hotel staff know english properly
>>81477910
where?
>>81482119
then your aprents should not be coalburners and racetraitors. you dont want such people back.
>>81482190
thats becuase you croats are just retarded slovenians which are best of south slavs.
>>81482191
Midland right now I usually go to Norval or Missisauga park though.
>>81482342
>>81482270
>>81481739
t. Bohemian Croatian nationality law expert
>>81473895
First time hear this.
You better check it somewhere else
>>81478706
What is wrong with NDH?
>>81473895
>a bloo bloo bloo I have to learn croatian and demonstrate an appreciation for croatia to get croatian citizenship
fuck off
>>81482270
>Implying black pussy isn't pink inside
>>81482190
I will do that probably. I hate my job hell I may just go there for half a year fuck it.
>>81482342
>zlovenian kikes who wont pay back back the denbts
Pay back the denbts for Ljubljanska Banka I am still waiting Zlovenians
>>81482442
Right now? Nothing...
>>81475509
that's why we let 2,500 negores and arabs in, and that's just the begining.
they get allowance money plus accomodation.
Croatia is, like any other european country, under occupation, and it is not in it's interest to bring in white, indigenous people inside. If you want full blown genocide, you need to make sure you put all kinds of barriers for normal, white people.
>>81482403
I'm used to it if they re Croatian. Croatian people are blunt and don't sugarcoat things and people confuse this as outright hostility. When I was a kid I was fat and Everytime I went to Croatia it was a living hell. Constant fat jokes from everyone, they kept telling me I should be a goalie because the balls would never make into into the goal of I just stand there shit like that. I developed an eating disorder and eventually got /fit/ but if it wasn't for my Croatian relatives I might still be fat.
>>81482786
Tito screwed Croats over.
>>81482786
What was ever wrong with it you commie fuck?
>>81473895
>we will also quiz you on the history
I'll teach you in a sec
Be irrelevant part of every independent real state that existed in Balkan, than receive independence thanks you USA in 1991
You're done.
>>81483023
He's the dalmatinac fag or the one from Rijeka he lubs gommies
>>81483052
What is 925?
>>81482954
He retook Bijeli Manastir from the Serbs and gave it back to S.R Croatia though and solved the Italian issue once and for all
>>81482342
I honestly don't know why the people oppose english so much. I don't mean the middle-aged people as they had their chance and will definitely not learn english, but the younger youth, along with my generation.
There were so many of them that just outright couldn't get to learn in both elementary school and highschool, it's like they straight out refused. You have english throughout the whole 4 years of highschool, + it's an obligatory subject on the matura test(which you take if you want to enroll to college) and still they didn't bother with it.
>>81482442
>what is wrong with being buttfucked by nazis and a faggot who fled to italy
>>81482492
well best of luck to you. You shouldn't have trouble with the folk down there, everyone is already used to foreigners.
I still don't know about the club, you're just gonna have to search more
>>81482921
croatia's population is fucking fat, and don't get insulted if someone talks some shit but considers you a friend. It's just how we're used to communicate with each other
>pa de si bogte jebo
>o jebem ti staru pa kaj ima
It's normal
On a side note, I see a lot of people is from Canada or USA, do you think I could make it into Nipponland? Might apply for student transfer and see how it is if I get in
>tfw dad born in Canada and got citizenship
>tfw I could've gotten citizenship easily because he had it
>tfw nothing comes out of it because he never "renewed" his citizenship and basically doesn't have it anymore
>>81482801
I don't understand why it's not in the best interest of these small countries to let people in who are white and who have a connection at the genetic level to the country. The real citizenship test should be done via DNA test. Croatia isn't the US or Germany people don't go there to mooch off non existent benefits.
>>81483353
Both yugoslavia lumped us together and make us the same also generate commies and modern day SDP
>>81483138
Communists disgusts me . We have a few known commies where I live and sometimes me and my friends will go to their windows and yell Za Don Spremni and similar stuff.
>>81483645
there is nothing wrong with SDP
>>81483751
They are a bunch of thieving cumstains same as all the other politicians in Croatia.
>>81483449
If you want to come to US illegally call this church and they will help you. That's my gift to all the Croatian brothers in this thread.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Sts._Cyril_%26_Methodius_and_St._Raphael_(New_York_City)
>>81482801
>that's why we let 2,500 negores and arabs in, and that's just the begining.
I bet if JNA was still around this would never have happened they would have set up obligatory JNA run rape camps where they rape all refugees
shitposting aside he was the best dressed commie fuck ever
>>81483668
Most of my friends are ustase the rest are just conservative.
>>81483941
Destroy all parties and install hasanbegovic?
>>81483751
Zoki get off the internet, you need another line of blow.
Also
>buttfucked by nazis
Yes "buttfucked" by nazis who gave us half-independence from a state that killed or exiled every relevant politician that tried to help the Croats and tried to destroy our culture.
NDH was the closest thing Croats got to freedom in an almost thousand years at the time.
>>81483668
This board is 18+.
>>81483941
yea, everyone knows
jokes aside why can't we exterminate SDP and HDZ?
Why do the other parties even exist?
Gee, I really wonder who'll win the elections in 2 months
>>81483974
thanks, although I have nothing to do in USA right now
>>81483449
As opposed to what you retarded nigger ? Getting slaughtered by Hitler and having our land split between the Germans and the Italians
>>81483751
... gross leave Croatia you chetnik>>81483974
Stop promoting illegal immigration
>>81482954
How? Maybe by putting Croatia on the winning side of the war so we don't have to pay war reparations even to this day, making it a part of Yugoslavia, making it on of the biggest industiral force in Yugoslavia. Oh yes, he sure did screw us over.
>>81483023
You know, just the usual racial laws, puppet state mentality and exploitation, nothing too serious.
>>81483138
I was born and raised in Zagreb. It is more likely that more than half of pro ustaše posters are from Dalmatia.
>>81483668
I bet your mama thought you better, then again half your mothers are whores of the neo-ustaše warmongers from the Homland war.
>>81483751
>>81483941
Two sides of the same coin SDP=HDZ, they are both neither socialist/communist nor nationalist.
>>81484457
The us needs more white Slavs to balance the spiggers
>>81484461
Big city commie lol how suprising.
>>81484315
I am of age we mostly do it when we get drunk.
>>81484461
I will say this. I have heard many American Jews say Croatia should be punished for their concentration camps but no one gives a fuck because they avoided being one of the "bad guys" with last second team switch.
>>81484333
It doesn't even matter who gets elected.
>>81484882
So you do it every day?
>>81484461
Tito made some tremendous mistakes though he should have picked another capital then Belgrade or separated Belgrade from S.R Serbia and made it a separate region.
>>81484977
this truly is a special kind of hell
When will the suffering ever end?
now excuse me while I go shave, can't go out to the streets looking like a disgusting s*rb
>>81473895
reading this thread I realized Europeans would rather having raping niggers and muslim scum then a white American.
Why? My guess is that they have this overwhelming need to feel superior to someone and since it is "rayciss" to look down on niggers and sand niggers they just throw all their frustrations in life on this image of a fat burger eating American and it makes them feel good.
As a person who could easily be a dual citizen (Ireland - my parents are from Ireland) I have zero intention of looking into that. Why should I? My parents escaped that hell and you should count your lucky stars that you are not there.
Just realize all the people giving you shit look like this guy (pic related)
>>81484802
It's not my fault I have a jewish last name.
>>81484461
> SDP=HDZ, they are both neither socialist/communist nor nationalist.
Wrong, they are socialists in their economy, SDP a bit more.
>complaining about racial laws on /pol/, kek
Serboturks and gypsies are subhumans, so no harm done
Tito also stole private property from everyone and also hunted down thousands of Croats (nationalists, those of german ancestry, etc.).
Nationalist posters are mostly from Slavonia and Dalmatia, yes, gee, I wonder why.
And most liberal shitholes are Zagreb, Istria and Medjimurje, regions untouched by the most recent war.
Supporting NDH nowadays is retarded, but it's completely understandable given the times.
>>81484315
>NDH was the closest thing Croats got to freedom in an almost thousand years at the time.
Sad, isn't it? :^)
>>81485305
It will never end king Zvonimir cursed us forever.
>>81483052
kek'd
>>81484461
Heh I bet you mommy was in the party wasn't she you prick? You commies talk big on the Internet but irl you are the biggest pussies.
>>81485346
So do I I'm still ustase. My last name ends in -man
>>81485692
>was in the party wasn't she you prick?
Who the fuck was not in the party?
>>81485345
the only person to shitpost him about it was some irrelevant czech and there's nothing we can do about the process. Once they make it they won't change it for a long time and we don't even have a working government right now.
it seems great if you want to stop the bosnians from taking even more ZET jobs
>>81485345
>American this mad
gold
>Why?
Cause you're fat Johnny. I've seen a few "muh German heritage" Americans who can't get a German visa. Makes me laugh every time.
>>81485867
>if you want to stop the bosnians from taking even
It's finished Croatia we already took over Slavonski Brod.
>>81485345
Croatia is a weird place. It's a country with a massive superiority complex that did nothing to earn that feeling. It trickles down to everything. Look at their soccer every tournament the players and coaches give arrogant interviews saying they are confident they will beat their opposition and every tournament they get knocked out around the halfway point.
>they want their diaspora to learn a dead language that no one else spoke for like 10 centuries
That's one hell of a prerequisite.
>>81486097
yea I can tell, I absolutely despise their fucking accent. I get to listen to every day now at my new job
>>81485835
My parents weren't in the party.
>>81486230
Shame you were not there during the 90s, village people brought chickens with them into town center 10/10 times.
>>81486113
>coaches
Our football is infected with a combination of retardation and mafia.
>>81485431
It is, but the biggest mistake was entering a union with you, when you can never trust a Turk.
>>81486113
this EURO was a complete joke just so you know
>>81486500
>>81486492
Fucking Mamić and his retarded coach
>>81485867
I know a lot of people from Croatia. Apparently a bunch came here right around the time of the muslim attacks in the 90's (not sure if they are here legally - don't really care since they are white and Christian). The interesting thing is none of them want to go back. I have asked them about it and they all have told me they have zero desire to ever return. Apparently the place they are from must be either in muslim hands or pure hell. One thing for certain is their hatred for muslims.
>>81485910
>proving the point that Germans would rather have turkroaches and rape army rampaging then anyone of German ancestry that lives in America.
Poor OP, when will you learn Croatia got sucked back into marxist claws on January 3rd 2000 and it's been Yugoslavia 2.0 ever since?
Independent Croatia lasted from 1991 to 2000.
>>81486656
>muslim attacks in the 90's
What!?
>>81486818
Croats from B&H, I guess.
>>81486723
>Independent Croatia lasted from 1941 to 1945
FTFY
>>81486818
All I know is they talk about the muslims killing people where they are from. I haven't looked into what they are talking about but they have this seething hatred of muslims so I assume something bad happened there.
>>81486953
muslims dindu nuffin'!
>>81486818
Central Bosnian Croats or maybe Herceg Croats.
>>81486947
DELETE
>>81486953
They're not from Croatia, they're from B&H and there is no reason why anyone would want to go (back) there.
>>81487029
lol I sure hope they are not like our feral antique farm equipment.
>>81486953
Well it was the Serbs attacking us and the muslims. Not the muslims attacking us. I mean I've never heard someone mention muslim attacks in the 90's only Serbian attacks.
>>81485399
>can't see the bigger picture
Good boy.
>Tito also stole private property from everyone and also hunted down thousands of Croats
So did Pavelić but with croatian jewish population as well as serb ethnic minority.
>Zagreb and Međimurje untouched by war
What the hell are you even talking about, Zagreb was a bombed shithole for a while, everybody hated serbs here, today half of Zagreb is filled with herzegovna filth, Bandić is the best example of that.
>Supporting NDH nowadays is retarded, but it's completely understandable given the times.
Stupid but understandable, I'll give you thath one. It's a shame people are generally stupid enough to repeat old mistakes and fall for the "UstašeVSPartizani" propaganda.
>>81485692
>I bet you mommy was in the party
She was, as well as my father, and my uncle was the director of "Ferimport" and his wife the leading financial adviser in "Kemikalija", we were filthy rich, we still are though. Thanks to your HDZ, such a lovely tool they were.
>>81485748
>tfw "Štern"
>>81476497
>>81476988
a Croatian club is usually like a big hall with dance floor and bar and restaurant (usually)
Its for the local Croatian communities in other countries so people can be surrounded by their own culture and people.
Singers from back there will come and have concerts there and they hold other events and they do other shit for the community as well
These places exist wherever there is enough diaspora
you will see bosnian clubs, yugo clubs
its not actually like a night club
we call these places like hrvatski dom or bosanski dom
>>81486890
>>81487091
>>81487146
Ahh yes makes sense.
How am I supposed to pass this history quiz if all you actual Croatians can't even agree on what the history is?
>>81487424
just read the textbook we get in highschools and you're good
>>81487306
My man I hate HDZ .
>>81476691
>when I explain to people I have Croatian heritage they just look at me blindly so I just say I'm Italian now.
where do you live?
also kys for that
>>81473895
because they're proud of their culture and nation and don't just want anyone to go around calling themselves Croatian
If you don't speak the language what kind of Croatian are you?
>>81487600
Starkville Mississippi
>>81487647
>If you don't speak the language what kind of Croatian are you
the prime minister?
>>81480880
It's like Polish citizenship is Windows 10.
>>81476278
Nemoj se vraćati ne trebamo te.
>>81487729
>>81487835
ne treba ni nas država, zato odlazimo :^)
>>81487835
Too bad faggot I'm coming and you can't stop me. You are going to get white people in your country if you like it or not.
>>81487306
>Zagreb was a bombed shithole for a while,
1 street and president's residence were bombed.
>fall for the "UstašeVSPartizani" propaganda.
And right now you're propagating the Partizan side of it, retard.
Tito was smart in his dealings, he jewed everyone, but he was a dictator that killed and locked up people.
>come across two Croatian jews on the internet during life
>both slimy greedy self centered scum
And then you wonder why everyone hates you here.
>>81487368
>>81476497
>tfw the Croatian cultural center in Vancouver is where most of the mid/small scale Metal concerts happen.
Shit like Lamb of God or Dimmu Borgir
>>81487989
make sure to bring lots of shekels with you
>>81487306
My grandfather was the director of a textile factory in my home town. One of the first to cash in on the decentralization and trade deal with West Germany, they started to produce products for Adidas and without any government help expanded to a kombinat.
Fucking Bihac,Prijedor,Doboj always got funds for any of their stupid plans.
>>81487835
Odgovori na hrvatskom za početak kad već "dolaziš"... Iskreno, ne trebamo te ni tvoje.
Minhenska bojna, Argentinska divizija i vi brabonjci po Amerikama ste nam stvarno nepotrebni...
Pogle kakvog idiota ste nam poslali za premijera... Ostani gdje jesi i odjebi.
>>81488138
If things go well I may start a business. My uncle owns an old folks home close to Rijeka so I'm sure he can help. Does your country need a taco Bell?
>>81488392
no, but I need a job in IT
>>81488310
>Pogle kakvog idiota ste nam poslali za premijera
Najbolji premijer do sada, a to govori puno o proslima.
>>81488392
You mean money laundering, death angel, paid euthanasia homes ? Yuck. Medical mafia.
>>81488518
Poštovana građevino, na žalost si u pravo. Iskomunicirao si točno ovo stanje u država.
>>81488310
Why are you such an elitist prick? I am white, have money, am interested in your culture and will turn my back on American culture. I am close to 30 so it isn't easy to be fluent in history and language even though I do speak enough, at least to understand you. Why do you shitheads actively push away those who are interested. Im not like a Mexican I don't expect Croatians to change to accommodate me just to be patient as I et accommodated. What is your fucking problem?
>>81479445
Are you masochist?
>>81488692
još mi nije jasno kak mu nitko nije dao neke lekcije jezika ili mu netko drugi napisao govor, ko da ga namjerno sprdaju
>>81488801
ignore these retards, their opinion literally doesn't matter in anything, not even in this country
>>81488506
Go work for croteam
>>81489020
croteam is shit though
>vidya development
>in a small indie team
Croat from West Herzegovina here, to redpill you on filthy muhammedanians Bosniaks:
- Serbs attack Bosnia, we defend it together with filthy Bosniaks
- but filthy Bosniaks' Armija BiH is highly incompetent and they got BTFO by Serbs
- filthy Bosniaks lose a lot of territory to Serbs and then decide to turn on outnumbered Croats from Central Bosnia to compensate their losses at the hands of Serbs
- mujahedin sanniggers from Egypt, Algeria etc. are imported in tens of thousands
- enter betrayals in Travnik, Uskoplje, Vitez, Jajce etc.
- Croatian villages burned, civilians and POWs tortured and murdered
- ritual beheadings
- putting prisoners in circles and watch them decapitated one by one
- in the meantimes there are hundreds of thousands of filthy Bosniak civilians resting comfy at Adriatic Sea, and yet they have balls to say Croatia invaded them
- thankfully, we the Croats had the HVO to fight the filthy Bosniaks, there were rough fights for Mostar, Jajce, Vitez, Stolac etc.
- we managed to survive and fight off two enemies with far more soldiers
- unfortunately, Tuđman sold us into Federacija BiH where we're being majorized for 21 years straight now
- od Turčina gori Poturica, uvijek su naši stari govorili
TLDR; Croats from Croatia are always about "MUH VUKOVAR", but they conveniently forget the horrors of South Croatia/Herzeg-Bosnia bettlefields.
>>81488962
In SWEDEN YES land we have something such as Sunday schools where we learn the language,history etc.
>>81488801
Don't let them bother you. But if you wqnt my advice don't even bother man. This place sucks.
>>81476065
>since you don't have any opportunity there.
Do you realize how wrong and equally condescending that sounds?
>>81489315
It's objectively true. Eastern Europe suffers from immense brain drain.
>>81488122
>And right now you're propagating the Partizan side of it
You really can't tell the difference between a communist and a liberal, I'm not propagating anything, mostly because I don't care what happens to this shit country. But the main problem are people like you, so filled with hate and ignorance that you can't see farther away than your own nose, your own idiotic "muh patriotism" beliefs. I truly feel sorry for you.
>>81476691
> I have Croatian heritage they just look at me blindly so I just say I'm Italian now
wew lad, that alone tells me you're pretty blind to croatian history
if you're serious with your quest for dual citizenship, read childrens books, get a croatian-english dictionary and start learning, listen to songs etc.
>>81488801
there's nothing here really
>>81489192
>TLDR; Croats from Croatia are always about "MUH VUKOVAR", but they conveniently forget the horrors of South Croatia/Herzeg-Bosnia bettlefields.
And the Erceg always forgets about Posavina and HOS.
>>81477733
Geralt gets it
>>81473895
Have they really made it that much harder? I got my citizenship in 2014 all I had to do was provide proof that my parents were Croatian and explain why they left.
>>81489276
>>81489516
it's good if you're middle-class in some other country but rich here
>>81489214
you'd think a canadian business man would prepare better
>tfw sweden is a nigger shithole now and not even worth going to
It really was on my list but damn
>>81489192
>they conveniently forget the horrors of South Croatia/Herzeg-Bosnia bettlefields.
Nobody forgot them, but the jews and serbs from around Rijeka are fighting to deny that there any Croats in Herzeg-Bosna (or that it exists).(iako ste brđani)
Tudjman didn't exactly sold you out, but he had to abandon that front since the West threatened sanctions and with those we wouldn't be able to liberate Croatia from serbs.
>>81489555
>Sweden
>>81489715
I wouldn't be surprised OP got misinformed due to our high quality website filled with useful information when it comes to these things
>>81489453
Komunizam i liberalizam su isti kurac. Uzmi tu svoju ideologoju i nabij si je u šupak. Ovdje na internetu si hrabar a u stvarnosti kao i svi takozvani liberali si pička.
>>81489276
The thing is I think the US will be worse in the long run. I see the writing on the wall. This country is becoming Brazil and we can't stop it. Too many immigrants from different cultures and religions not abandoning their beliefs and trying to carve parts of the US as their shit country. It's going to split or worse. At least Croatia is a somewhat homogenized country with super patriotic xenophobic people. I feel the west is going to collapse and the only safe places will be racist countries like Croatia, Serbia and Poland. I used to love America bit I'm starting to lose that and see what I believed was a bullshit lie. You know what little we learn about Croatia here in schools it's mostly about how they made concentration camps and ed jews. Once I told my dad that he flipped out and cursed out my teacher. As bad as you think Croatia is you have an identity and people who are the same here we don't and it's a failure of a system but no one wants to admit it.
>>81489934
I kekd out loud
>>81489451
I know that was a huge thing in the 90's, but isn't it slowing down now? Don't you have some top-tier universities for Eastern-European standards these days?
>>81488130
omg they are so wild lol
>tfw sister had her wedding reception at yugal club
yeah wait thats not as cool as metal concerts...
>>81487687
>Starkville
>Population: 24,775 (2013)
thats why
>>81489497
I don't do it because I'm proud I do it because I'm sick of explaining to southern yokels what Croatia is when I know they don't give a fuck.
>>81489906
It's the truth though.
>>81473895
Dijaspora treba klati zarđalim viljuškama
>>81490001
Ovaj komunist bi te stavio na goli otok, liberal bi ti dao upozorenje i lepo te zamolio da to više ne radiš. Ali ostani zatupljen nacionalističkom propagandom, takvi kao ti gori su od liberala.
>>81477497
>but as any slavic language it'll be hard for an english-speaking person
anglophones are the fastest and most efficient at learning Croatian of all non-slavic speaking people
Burger, start listening to Croatian radio or watching streams of Croatian television, and converse with people. You can do it, if a fucking leaf of a PM became a fucking PM with his level of Croatian. Bring some knowledge and open up some business and employ a few people, is like anudda shoah in here.
Also, join the fuckin Croatian clubalready , all of my friends, including me, are the members, man.
>>81490005
Xenophobic? Very much so.
Patriotic? Only until the shit hits the fan.
Croatia is not going to be any better than America. I truly understand your worries about the US and it will most definetly become a 3rd world hellhole but so are we. The problem here is that we don't have enough real patriots ready to kill for their country.
>>81490325
>ubi zakolji da amer ne postoji
>>81490202
>Eastern yurop
>anything top tier
it must be great living in a first world country
>>81489843
Nema Rijeka židove... Samo srbende i partizanske elemente duboko ukopane.
>>81490391
Moj prijatelju suprotno nacionalizma je globalizam. A globalizam je bolest koja uništava čitav svijet.
>>81490438
yeah, most of the people that would actually take up arms are the ''communists''. Remember the 90's? most of the uber-patroits fled to Minken, Germany when shit got serious.
The thing about Croatia is, all the inteligent, well educated and really skilled Croats live abroad, only the retarded stayed in the country.
>>81490005
it's a famous tourist destination, the whole coast belongs to tourists
only people who are willing to fight for the country are old and soon dead or unable to do so
>>81490772
and too poor to afford to actually go somewhere else
>>81489453
>you can't see farther away than your own nose
I can, but that probably isn't true for you, filthy rat.
>mostly because I don't care what happens to this shit country
And there we see a jew in his natural habitat.
I, in fact, love this country, and even if it's the shittiest shithole in the universe I'd want to fix it an live in it.
And I want the same for other Croats, but not for slimy traitorous cunts like you, voting every elections against the interests of the many (for HDZ/SDP) and only for your own hooked nose.
Jure and Boban should've cleansed all of you.
>>81490772
and the poor
fucking hell, I can barely afford my train ticket
fuck HŽ, kad će više kompletno maknut ove usrane stare vlakove
>>81473895
Wtf? No right of return like the Jews in Israel???
>>81490562
I said Eastern-European standards though. I know they virtually don't exist on any top 100 uni lists but they must be doing better than during commie times right?
>>81490709
No they first fled to Germany and than they became super ultra mega patriots when they were safe. But I don't understand what do you mean comunists took up arms against Serbs. Almost the entire Croatian army especially HOS were true nationalists the like we really need.
>>81490656
Slažem se, ali kakve to veze ima s komunizmom, jednom od idologija koja zagovorava zatvoreni sustav vrijednosti i utopističku (čitaj; neostvarivu) ideju koja se vrši putem jedinstva naroda i narodnosti, da pače, sam proglas narodima i narodnostima utvrđuje mogućnost sekularizacije i samoostvarenje. Komunizam je sasvim suprotan globalizmu, time i kapitalizmu, jedan od razloga zašto je i uništen.
>>81491059
My cousin became a doctor now in Croatia. From what I understand she had to pass four years of uni and that's it. To be a doctor in the US you need almost 10 years education and internships and lots of extra shit. Seems fishy.
>>81490709
What do you guys live in Zagreb or something? I spend a fair amount of time in Croatia and nobody I know from over there is a pussy, except for a few dudes from Zagreb, one of whom is a peder so I don't expect much out of him in the way of badass to begin with.
>>81490931
the elections are a joke.
The majority of population are old fucks who will never change their minds and vote for who've been voting for the last 20 years
I honestly have no idea how one would even start fixing this country
>>81491070
''communists'' aka not super patriotic ZDS people
everyday people that generally don't care about nationalism because they are trying to survive and stuff like that.
also
patriotism =/= nationalism
>>81491229
>komunizam je suprotan globalizmu
na čemu si ti brale daj i nama malo
>>81476288
No Serbia, only Serbian sea.
>>81490912
i'm amazed how your people still tolerate corupt and good-for-nothing politicians that actually suffocate your huge potential. you guys have it all, and still you hav nothing. red pill me on that...why don't you guys just pick up pitchforks and axes and just linch your political elites? purge the sons of bitches and build your country fit for a good life! if you won the war, why can't you win against pathetic politicians?
>>81477737
hhahahahahahahah lost.
the amount of triggered croatians..
The whole balkans is a shithole with no sovereignity. We all have history but its not something to be proud of haha.
>>81491341
So you are saying that if someon doesn't say ZDS the first thing in the morning are communists?
>>81491346
Get on my level
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C8%99escu
>>81491295
I'm form the northern parts of Croatia (Varazdin area)
inb4 usrani slovenec/mađar, my family is form Sinjska Krajina and Bosanska Posavina
>>81473895
Who cares, you're fucking croatian. Be glad you're not in that shithole. You literally have 0 fucking connections to that piece of land.
>I
>HATE
>FUCKING
>DIASPORA
>FAGGOTS
>>81480880
Parents immigrated from Poland to America before wall fell.
I want to visit, and see the country. One thing that I do not like about America is how shallow everything seems. It's all about appearances, and being happy and optimistic, and feelings. Everyone complains about how hard things are without actually living hardship.
And worse yet, those who experience hardship do it out of their own choice (being drug dealers, robbing people, etc.) and then have the expectancy that they can shed their shitty life choices like a bad coat.
>>81491242
Lol really? Perhaps it's a family doctor kind of thing and she still has to specialize? I'm studying medicine right now too and our course takes 10+ years as well.
>>81490772
It's the oposite, most of our diaspora are toilet cleaners.
Go to albania or bosnia. They are your allies
>>81491070
I have cousins who are diaspora like me. They are as you describe. Super patriotic in a safe country. They are only "Croatian" when the Eurocup or World cup rolls around. Then they won't shut up all over Facebook how they are proud Croats.Othereise they don't give a fuck about the country just use it as a talking piece in bars to sound different and cultured However unlike me they don't want to live there maybe if they are rich and old for retirement but not now. I am willing to go there now in fighting age with money and shitheads like one of the faggots above want to kill me with a fork for suggesting such a thing. I don't get it.
>>81491229
Ne. Nacionalizam je suprotan globalizmu i zato ga podržavam uz druge razloge. Komunizam je totalna glupost i nitko pametan ga ne bi trebao shvaćat ozbiljno.
