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Debunking 'Pure White Race' Pseudoscience Mythology
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Daily reminder that the white race is nothing but a social construct and people of European descent are considered "white" by normal social standards. However one's perception of what constitutes the white race my vary. Nonetheless all Europeans have non-European admixture. This debunks the 'pure white race' mythology promulgated by scientifically illiterate Stormfaggots.

The original European HG's (Hunter-Gathers) indigenous to Europe were dark-skinned. Picture related: the original European man and his phenotype. They were a dark-skinned group of people. Now flash back to 6000 BCE and a group of West Asian farmers started migrating to Europe during neolithic times. Not only did these West Asians introduce farming to Europe but they also introduced the allele for light pigmentation (making them the primary reason Europeans in modern times have a light skin tone) so indeed Europeans got their light pigmentation (for the most part) from West Asians. They're also the reason all Europeans in modern times have West Asian admixture (Southeastern Europe was the most impacted region by this migration) and introduced agriculture to dumb hunter-gathers. This debunks the 'pure white race' pseudoscience mythology proving all Europeans are admixed.
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>>81340291

I don't think white people have a huge problem with actual genetics. It's the asians. Go tell the asians they are related to blacks. Do it. Do it.
Do it now. To their face.
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Source regarding this information:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

Picture related: European DNA in modern times. Look at how all Europeans are admixed. Even scientifically illiterate Stormfaggots who think Northern Europeans are 'pure white' are actually more admixed than a Southern ethnic group like the Basques who are the 'purest' Europeans genetically.

Finns are (objectively speaking) the least white ethnic group in Europe seeing how they're 5-15% Asian admixed on average making them the most non-Caucasoid/non-West Eurasian admixed group in all of Europe.

Source for the DNA:

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/06/dodecad-v2.html
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>>81340291
>>81340710
Oh wow OP I guess we are no better than niggers, time to abolish all borders and let in every sand nigger who wants to leech off us #nohumanisillegal #standwithisrael #hillary2016
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>>81340291
Doesn't matter what color your skin is, if you're Caucasoid or Mongoloid--if you're a milk drinker, you're in the club. You irritable fucking jungle ape.
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>>81340291
>hey /pol/ i just took anthropology 101 and my community college professor is jewish

Fixed your post for you OP.
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>>81341239
>Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid

You know these terms are bullshit and outdated right? I mean the Tutsi were deemed Caucasian by Carleton Coon cause their aquiline noses.
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>>81341476
Again, either you're a northerner, light skin (not white) and you're lactose tolerant, or you're a jungle ape. I thought I was pretty clear about that.

There is no nigger on Earth, barring albinos, whose bones won't crumble in the north.
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>>81340710

Caucasoid isn't a real race just a phenotypical concept. Genetically there were Basal Eurasians and West Eurasians(which had nothing to do with each other) contributing to the modern day Caucasoid concept.
Basal Eurasians were a bit more distant to West Eurasians like the Euro HGs than East Asians are making Finns one of the most West Eurasian populations out there since both our Basal Eurasian and East Eurasian is low-ish.

You need to ditch imaginary crap for science bro.
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>>81341428
I never said that. I never said genetic variation in the world doesn't exist. I was simply just pointing out all Europeans are admixed racially. I was simply just pointing out the white race is a social construct and people of European descent are considered "white" by normal social standards. However one's perception of what is "white" might vary. Are Lebanese white? Are Persians white? Are Italians white? Are Saudia Arabians white? Might depend on who you ask.

There was no concept of the white race prior to European colonization of the New World.
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>>81340291
cool post racial enemy
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>babby's first internet article on genetics

cute
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>>81340291
Looks like someone from South Wales.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10761590

Dumbest people:

1.Aboriginals
2.African Blacks

Power g4p

3.Pure Native Americans
4.Mulattoes

Power gap

5.South American

6.North Africans
7.Middle-eastern
8.Indian
9.South Asians

Power gap

10.East Asi4ns
11.Europeans

http://www.strawpoll.me/10761590
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>>81341869
>There was no concept of the white race prior to European colonization of the New World.
Yeah, because they ran into niggers and realized they're different from us.
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>>81342104
See:

>>81341869

Tell me what constitutes the white race? What are the universal qualifications for 'whiteness'?
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>>81340291
Hunter Gatherers living in Sweden had light skin blonde hair and blue eyes in 6,000 B.C.

Light skin only evolved 6,000 years ago in Europe which is why it wasn't initially widespread.

>But in the far north—where low light levels would favor pale skin—the team found a different picture in hunter-gatherers: Seven people from the 7700-year-old Motala archaeological site in southern Sweden had both light skin gene variants, SLC24A5 and SLC45A2. They also had a third gene, HERC2/OCA2, which causes blue eyes and may also contribute to light skin and blond hair. Thus ancient hunter-gatherers of the far north were already pale and blue-eyed, but those of central and southern Europe had darker skin.
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>>81342272
>universal qualifications
You see these people? No, they're not European, but they're white as all hell.
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>>81342272
'Whiteness' is an anglo American term. European people are a lot more diverse than just 'white'. Now piss off, filthy American dog nigger.
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>>81342558
You use the term "white" on your census. Ugly British bastard.
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>>81340291
>daily reminder

sage

daily reminder every race hates niggers
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>>81341869
Those "West Asians" are the Indo Europeans, dipshit. Those are the white races unifying genetics, and they are the white race. You posted a map showing that Europe is primarily descended from the literal Aryan race.
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>>81342439
>people believe humans actually evolve like pokemon over time

Evolutionists are stupid and there is no evidence whatsoever to support that stupid Jewish theory.
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>>81340291
"Dark skin" for HG europeans mean a pigmentation that could go from the pigmented skin of an eskimo or the pigmented sking of the niggest from Sudan.
most parsimonious scenario is the skin pigmentation of people of Siberian origin, not africans...
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>>81340291
Thread very stupid

Why germanics male threads like these?
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>>81342775
>Evolutionists are stupid and there is no evidence whatsoever to support that stupid Jewish theory.
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>>81341869
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>>81342488
>skin color

>all that there is to a race

kill yourself
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>>81342272
Light skin, light eyes, light hair, with predominantly Indo-European genes.
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>>81341869
>admixed

that word doesn't mean what you think it means
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>>81342439
Main light skin mutations are definitely older than that but you are right that they were already in some places in Europe, in particular north-east Europe. Some Europeans already seemed to have the full package of fair traits.
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>>81342882
What hard evidence is there to support that theory? There is none and everyone supports it like it's a undenying fact.
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>>81343027

Basques have only the first of those
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>>81340291
That's a nice theory, but have you considered that niggers are niggers and whites are white?
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>>81343143
And? Who's telling you that basques are white?
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>>81342982
I didn't say that their light skin made then "white," I'm saying that whiteness is a combination of factors that enable survival in the north.

OP is looking for "universal qualifications." The qualification is spending a decade in Alaska without multivitamins and not developing osteoporosis.
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Not only is there no argument, there is no point.
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>>81340291
If there is no white race why do leftists shit on white people always?
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>>81340710
>implying finns are european
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>>81343143
>But in the far north—where low light levels would favor pale skin—the team found a different picture in hunter-gatherers: Seven people from the 7700-year-old Motala archaeological site in southern Sweden had both light skin gene variants, SLC24A5 and SLC45A2. They also had a third gene, HERC2/OCA2, which causes blue eyes and may also contribute to light skin and blond hair. Thus ancient hunter-gatherers of the far north were already pale and blue-eyed, but those of central and southern Europe had darker skin

Yes, and the ligth features spread in the last milleniums in british islands, tht's why the are resemble so much genetically and facially, basque people.
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>>81342738
indo-european doesn't define whiteness because iranians and indians are definitely not white

what defines whiteness is the genetic component exclusive to Europe which we get from the European Hunter Gatherers who lived there from 40,000 B.C.
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He's right you know. Race is just a social construct after all. Now stop believing your lying eyes and let more Africans into your country, goy--I mean, guys.
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>>81343623

Brits are genetically closer to Finns than Basques
Haplogroups mean less than nothing.
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>>81342882
You new here?
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>>81343889
Neither Indians nor Iranians exhibit majority indo-European admixture, but rather are majority native ethnicity. In addition, Indians and Iranians don't have the light features to be physically described as "white".
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>>81343889
I don't think this is too satisfying as Basques and Balts are roughly modelled as having the same input from paleo Euros yet they are fairly different.
Also eastern hunter gatherers were not exactly the same as western ones, often they are modeled as a mixture between the "WHGs" aka mesolithic Euros and some pan-Siberian population.
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>>81340291

If there is no white race, then why do liberals and non-whites spend every waking moment obsessing over their anger towards white people?
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What is "West Asian"?
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>>81340291
If they are admixed they still turned out better therefore "white" people are still better than nogs
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>>81344560
You're definitely not 100% white if white = European.

See:

Do the math yourself.
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>>81343915
thats right Go- I mean.. friend.
Race doesn't exist so why should your nations boarders exist as well?
You dont want to be a nazi do you ?
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>>81340291
>The original European
tyrome nobody disputes this. but what you see today in actual white nations isnt the original. its the latest model. evolution is a thing. even at the point your talking about they had stopped being black. black people are the first "humans"
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therefore endless mass immigration is justified, racists btfo
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Daily reminder that geographically linked genetic variation is an objective fact denied by no one
Don't play semantics games about race/subspecies/ethnic group/white purity with jews, it's the only thing kikes are good at but in the end what vocabulary you use to convey this information is not important

No one wants to live with a bunch of fucking niggers
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HAHAHAHAHA

NORDISTS BTFO
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>>81344186
Mo, they are genetically closer to basque people and atlantic people. There is a clearly stock (south east) most related to danish people thanks to vikings. But the basis is an atlantic stock. They are basically depigmented basque people.
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>>81345239
Yes Europeans mainly got their light skin from the "sandnigger" bastard. Europeans all got sandnigger blood.
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>>81342169
Switch native Americans with south Americans.
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>>81344186
This one (Mikel San Jose) is the classic basque, he could pass as a classic brit too. And
put blonde or red hair on him and there you go..
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>>81345400
Pigmentation don't make abos, indians or native americans "niggers". Ypu can say the same for those hunter-gatherer europeans .
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>>81343593
So Finns really are depigmentized mongolian heirs to the Roman empire?
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>>81344345
>>81344428

Europeans are mixtures of 4 groups.

'WHGs' who are descended from the first Europeans and are exclusive to Europe. WHG admixture peaks in Balts and Scandinavians.

ANE is the second group which originated in Siberia and most people believe were the first indo-europeans. ANE admixture peaks in the indigenous Ket people of Siberia (in the image).

EEF came from the Mesolithic Hunter Gatherers of Greece and Turkey, and peaks in Sardinians.

CHG came from the Hunter Gatherers of the Caucasus and peaks in Georgians and other modern Caucasus populations.

So tell me, of these 4 groups. Which one is white? Obviously WHG and this is where European whiteness comes from. It is also, as previously stated, the only group exclusive to Europe, hence why it is the only group which can be considered ancestrally white.
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>>81340291
>>81340710

Lewontin's fallacy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy

Indeed, every one is mixed to some degree. That does not mean "races do not exist".
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>>81346309
The attached image is a distribution map of uniparental markers across the world. There is only ONE group which is exclusive to Europe, and that is the map for Haplogroup I. This is the haplogroup belonging to the first ice age Europeans, who later became WHGs.

If there is anything "White" it is the DNA Exclusive to Europe. It's the one thing that sets Europeans apart from the rest of Eurasia.
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>>81340291
nigger detected
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>>81345400
We don't know from where neolithic Anatolians got their white skin mutations though.
Reality is that white skin in Europeans is mostly a combination of time and adaptation rather than simple admixture. These old populations who are said to have brought those features didn't have frequencies for those mutations as high as any modern Europeans.
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>>81346158
Finns are a mixture of slavs, mongols and scandinavians.
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>>81344530
>we gotta do something
You could start by being a good father to your kids. Try not to rely on welfare. Don't do drugs, and don't commit crime. Try to give back to the community, and try to create innovations to propel the nation forward.
>inb4 this will never happen
Can't I give him dreams?
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>>81340710
>mfw pure basque
Vow before me plebs
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>>81346309
It's just a matter of terms really. Basques have as much of said paleo European ancestry as Baltics yet they look different and phenotypically they aren't as "white".

So sure, you can talk about who is more "aboriginal" to Europe but I don't think this has much to do with whiteness by itself.
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>>81344530
Non whites only look remotely attractive when they have white features

Prove me wrong
Pro tip:
>you can't
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Even if there is no such thing as race, pedigrees still exist.
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>>81345311

Genetically Brits are related to both NE Europeans and Basques but more to NE Europeans. Most of their ancestry did not come from Iberia but places like Ukraine and Central Europe.
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>>81347625
Basques don't have as much Paleo ancestry as Balts. You are incorrect. Paleo ancestry peaks in the Baltics and Scandinavia. I already explained this. Get your facts right before you shitpost meatball.
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>>81341428
>>81341428
>pointing out different skull structures of different ethnicities
>doesn't point out the skull structure difference between people of same ethnicity
Fuck off back to your hole and take your pseudo science with you.
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>>81340291
So why does genetic variance among different populations in Europe justify mass immigration from outside of Europe?
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>>81342272
Black nigger Africans are obviously either a sub species or a hybrid with a sub species. In fact now that we now Y-DNA haplogroup E is Eurasian origin and was introduced and introgressed to a state that fooled older researches into being basal, this proves the hybrid theory more than ever. Especially since mtDNA L3 is being reclassified off of L since it isn't descended (another mistake because of introgression) and haplotype mutations from it were observed in a Denisovan sample.

Blacks are literally and scientifically sub human hybrids likely from a homo erectus
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>>81340291
>We wuz hunta gathara and shiiit!

>>81341476
>BECAUSE IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR!
Yeah fuck off.
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>>81350173
the thing that the white skulls have in common is that they both house large brains.

>stormfaggotryrebuttal.jpg

kill yourself
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>>81350173
>sweden

into the trash it goes
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>>81346761
>We don't know from where neolithic Anatolians got their white skin mutations though.
>Reality is that white skin in Europeans is mostly a combination of time and adaptation rather than simple admixture. These old populations who are said to have brought those features didn't have frequencies for those mutations as high as any modern Europeans.
>shitaly talking about whiteness of skin
kek
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>>81345400
It is called "Proto-Eurasian" and yes that was the common ancestor of modern Europeans and Asians, before the interbred with Neanderthals...where the light white skin actually comes from.

Moron.
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>>81351352
Obviously your skull doesn't house any of such calibre.
>>81351396
You literally cannot refute my point. Good luck trying.
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>>81351352
>Siberians, Mongols, and Inuits are the true master race
>England smaller than Egypt and Tierra del Fuego
nigger what?
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>>81351408
>mongrelized abomination talking about human affairs
lol
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>>81349430
It obviously depends on how you model things.
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>>81351645
More modern studies show that Scandinavians have the largest brains and England is on par with Korea.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/8662850/Northerners-brains-are-bigger-scientists-find.html
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>>81352288
yeah it does, if you use shitty old models from 5 years ago (eurogenes K8 which you posted) they show roughly even

If you use the most recent data and models from actual studies then it peaks in balts and scandinavians. Pic related from 2016, and an actual study not a hobby blog.
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>>81352906
You do understand that LBK, being an anatolian farmer, carries with itself WHG related ancestry, right? The blue in your pic is additional HG ancestry that isn't LBK related.
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>>81340423
I am honestly curious what an Asian's reaction would be to this.

Quite curious, you might say.
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>>81340291
>80+ responses to a straw man thread

Come on /pol/
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>>81350173
Nice non-argument you got there.
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>>81346761
White skin is caused by a long term lack of vitamin D, considering fish tend to have a lot of vitamin D this of course cause the inuits brown skin (and other hunter-gatherers) even though they live so far north.
Milk tend to have a lot of vitamin D also which can very well explain why mongolians and related peoples are brown skinned although it can get really cold around the respective area.
The neolithic farmers whom depended mostly if not entirely on crops would not have had any source of vitamin D beside the sun the further they migrated as the ice caps melted away.
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>>81353588
You have to go back, Stefan.
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>>81340710
you're a fucking idiot


The haplogroup I is the only one with it's origins in Europe

And the latest , most accurate map of the it's distribution is pic related

you're telling me france has over 90% european admixture? kill yourself
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>>81340291
Is that Gerard Butler?
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>>81340291
The modern European race is composed of an admixture between 3 ancient extinct West Eurasian races. What's your point?
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>>81340291
>Nonetheless all Europeans have non-European admixture. This debunks the 'pure white race' mythology promulgated by scientifically illiterate Stormfaggots.
This is like saying Asians have non-asian admixture therefore there are no asians check mate.

You're a retarded faggot
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>>81354590
you can't mix up admixture maps with Y-DNA maps, the two are different and only partially related
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>>81345239
ayoo
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who give's a fucking shit almost every human alive is mixxed to some extend, most chinese have mongol blood, most europeans have slav blood, most americans have irish, scottish, german, italian, polish blood

who gives a flying fuck?

What matters is the individual, and if not corrupted by media and the jews, and if not live poor since the beginning like some negros in africa, we could be all equal in intelligence.

Who even started this fucking meme
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>>81340291

Did you know that the modern car is just a social construct and don't really exist. They all came from wagons originally and all have wheels. There's no difference between the Porsches and Kias. It's not proven that Porsches are faster or "superior".
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>>81340291
>I know you're proud of your race and all, but a million years ago you weren't even human. Now what?
I'm not even white but this shit is too retarded to pass up
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>>81358452
t. Ivan the economic migrant
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if /pol/ fighting for Nazi racial purity, or against racial quotas? Because if it's the latter than the OP is irrelevant. Clearly people have more of a duty to their families and not the 'human race'.
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