How did such a based man's country turn to such shit? This modern version of Islam is a cancer to Earth, we honestly need to start our chemo by exterminating this disease. It's was Atatürk would have wanted.
>>81326063
>Not shit skinned hairy gorilla like face
No wonder they prefer Erdogan over him
>>81326063
Islam.
Religion poisons everything
>Blue eyes
VI
>>81326063
>exterminating this disease
People like you are the disease, the same people that want to kill in the name of Islam, i.e. xenophobic hate mongers.
>>81326063
That guy looks 100% slavic
>>81326063
islamist booming 4 kids per wife. you do the math.
>>81326840
>blonde hair
>blue eyes
>died of cirrhosis
>>81326641
t. Christopher Hitchens
>>81326063
>How did such a based man's country turn to such shit?
USA, cold war, pawns, politics in middle east, rise of radical islamists which are fed by USA against communism.
basically radical islam.
>>81326063
Every time you guys post shit just falls out of that mouth, there was nothing ever BASED about Turkey or anything related to it so please kill self
>>81326063
Religions.
>>81327296
often wonder what he'd make of all this
>>81326063
Western governments pressured 'em to be more democratic. Turks voted for islamists, so they don't have to bother with democracy anymore. West made increasing democracy an issue in negotiating trade deals. As result they couldn't ban islamist parties anymore and fuckwits like Erdoscum couldn't sentenced to life in prison in late 90's.
>>81326840
Cause he is. Ottomans have been trying to whiten themselves for 500 years, they were stealing boys and cucking themselves, this process was known as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dev%C5%9Firme
Now those whites in Turkey are 10% of the population and are responsible for the coup, they want to be secular, they are the "Kemalists".
>>81326641
*Islam poisons everything
>>81326827
>>81326827
Awww... well we did not experienced your childhood, with your single mom hosting a wide array of men of all races, one or more at a time, several times per day.
And pisslam targets people because they are a death cult, not because they are xenophobe (even if they are most of them). They came in all colors and shape (ask your mom) - so in your mind are better than casual racism.
>>81328649
Islam is currently the worst offender, most other religions have put down the gun, but where would France be today without secularism?
>>81326063
They were shit always. Attaroach realized that they started losing wars because of the retardness of islam. His reformed roachistan killed millions of Armenians and Greeks without batting an eye.
Made a thread today with reasons of yesterday's event. Got archived so fast that now I"m sure I was right.
>>81327841
kys armenian faggot
>>81328560
coup was done by gulenists not kemalists. if it as kemalists erdogan would be dead by now
>>81330538
>kemalists
>gulenists
what is the major different roach?
>>81330849
>major different
what did he mean by this?
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>>81330849
Gulenists are religious faggots who believe in a shit cult and are brainwashed cultists.
Kemalists are people who are secular and western.
>>81331189
>>81331029
auto correction on phone.
>>81331274
ahh thanks for info.
Then I guess its not all bad that the coup failed if Gulenists are cultists.
>>81330849
Gülenists are same shit as Erdoscum, just with different leader. They used to be allies until couple years ago.
Kemalists are old school secular military elite, the deep state that controlled itself. They aren't running anything as Erdogoon has been in power for more than a decade has has plenty of time to appoint all positions of power in military with his own lackeys.
>>81331433
>Then I guess its not all bad that the coup failed if Gulenists are cultists.
Gives Erdogan excuse to purge remaining Kemalists from military.
>>81331570
>>81331440
yeah ofc the top roach would not miss such an opportunity.
The problem with secularism in the Middle East is it's association with socialism. Ataturk was based in his religious views, but his economical policies were retarded and created a situation where traditionally Turkish economy is dominated by a few families connected with the government in a crony way and who only cared about the West of the country. The same also happened in countries like Egypt, Algeria, Iran and Syria. This throws small business in the arms of Islamists, who promise economic freedom (check out how the support of Bazaar merchants was influential in the Iranian Revolution, or how the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood is sustained by businessmen).
The popularity of the AKP was breaking this economic situation, under their rule, small business flourished, the interior of the country developed (see the concept of "Anatolian Tigers"), they even brought electricity to the countryside (which is why their symbol is a light bulb). All this contributed to their popularity with the common people, who was tired of shitty socialist economic policies.
Basically, the Middle East needs economically liberal secularism to stop Islamists from becoming popular through opposition to the socialism of secularist leaders.
>>81326607
People were Muslims then too, retard.
Blame America.
>>81327841
>there was nothing ever BASED about Turkey
Ermeni gavur.
>>81328560
>Now those whites in Turkey are 10% of the population
Try 80%.
>>81330538
Is this for real? Do we know for sure this isn't just Erdoroach propaganda?
>>81330538
>coup was done by gulenists
Is this actually true? I don't believe a word coming out of Erdoturds mouth.
>>81331440
>Gülenists are same shit as Erdoscum, just with different leader.
They are a check on Erdoscum. They revealed his thievery. They would've been an improvement.
>>81326063
religion is antithetical to democracy, christcucks are trying to turn us into a theocracy here as well
>>81326641
>>81331912
I can only speak for Turkey: the improvement in Turkey were mostly due to reforms made by Kemal Dervis in before Erdogan coming to power.
This was the Swan Song of Turkey. Atatürk's dream is dead. We are entering the new Ottoman era.
I feel bad for our fellow Turks here on 4chan. From what I see here and on /int/ they are Kemalists who are about to enter hell.
>>81330538
>>81330538
nice propaganda roach.. you fool no one but the feeble minded.
erdoroach did the "coup"
>>81328543
>West made increasing democracy an issue in negotiating trade deals.
This is why ideological crusades don't mix with realpolitik
>>81330538
>the cup was done by gülenists
No, it was done by Erdogan
>>81333154
That would have made very little difference, just changed the thieves running the country.
>>81333496
>This was the Swan Song of Turkey. Atatürk's dream is dead. We are entering the new Ottoman era.
I'm afraid of same thing.
It takes another decade or so fill Turkish military with snackbars. Mid management of army is still largely ran by people recruited by old Kemalist system. That will be gone in decade.
>This modern version of Islam
>modern version
Islam has always been cancerous.
>>81334331
>Take another decade
Go check how long Erdogan is in power
There is still time until full on theocracy, but we are past the point of no return. There is a reason I used the phrase "Swan Song"
>>81326641
>>81326063
Atatürk and his secular republic was only a short interval being held up by the military, Turkey is just relapsing in its natural state
>>81326063
Bla bla bla,..just build borders first.
>>81334806
>>81333297
He's right tho.
>>81335680
>>81333736
this
Only people saying this was by gülenists are pro Erdoshits on /pol/
>>81335909
>argentina
No wonder you're only capable of shitposting dank fedora maymays, chimp.
>>81336391
oh no, the enlightened redpilled finn is clearly superior
>>81332626
fuck off roach he secularized the country and purged the stupid imams preaching bullshit. the reason turkey is going to shit now is because islam is coming back into play.
>>81336559
Let's talk again when you're able to acquire falkland islands back shitskin.
>>81326063
There aren't enough Turks who want to keep the secular democracy. It looks like there are more who clamor for regression into shar'ia
>>81337089
the little atheist is angry boohoohoo
>>81329032
>Where would France be today without secularism?
Well, they might have put up more of a fight than just lighting up a few buildings and changing theur facebook profiles
Ataturk couldn't control the average citizen of his nation having a low IQ, hence electing someone like Erdogan while praising Ataturk 5 times a day even though they're poles apart.
>>81337369
Argies getting cuck'd so hard.
>>81337645
>>81338297
>do you think homosexuality is a sin?
But doesn't the bible say that it's a sin too?
>>81333496
Atatürk was a dönmeh crypto-Yid.
>>81338763
The bible also says to kill ill-behaved children, yet here you are.
>>81326063
He was a Freemason and a faggot. Probably a secret Jew as well. Fuck him.
>>81326063
>Pro-Kurdish HDP offices under attack in by pro-Erdogan supporters in Iskenderun, Malatya and Osmaniye #Turkey - @michaelh992
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/754377141916200960
>>81339298
t. Muhammed Abdul
>>81339115
But i don't believe in bible?
>>81332626
>blame America
kek you're so predictable you morons
America and Israel are the good guys
Islam are the evil guys
it's actually very ez to remember!
>>81326063
>modern version of Islam
Islam has always been cancer.
>>81333203
Christian theocracy is the best form of government though.
>>81331912
Ataturk was still a lot more economically liberal than some of his peers. Read about his arguments with Ismet Inonu. Inonu was so pro-public property etc. that he was actually replaced with someone else on ataturk's order
>>81330538
This. The Kemalist establishment backed Erdogan en masse because the coup leaders were all doing Gulen's bidding and the country would be even more fucked than it is if it was being run by a fucking cult.
>>81339398
>implying only kebabs hate demonic jews
>>81339544
"No it's not XDD you're just an euphoric fedora guy, höhö"
t. >>81339115 & >>81338297
>>81326641
>>81335680
Christianity is the reason the west had the best civilizations known. If you hate christianity you also hate western culture and civilization. Atheists are just cultural marxists that attempt to destroy our culture through religion. Without religion western societies culture can easily be molded.
>>81339996
I'm an atheist and i'm not cultural marxist?
>>81339714
>economically liberal
>pro public property
???
>>81339819
Thats why christians are know for their violence right?
>>81334331
>That would have made very little difference, just changed the thieves running the country
Except the other thieves didn't have as much power. When somebody steals this much and censor speech to this extent, you remove him. Fethullah is lightyears ahead of Erdogan in terms of desirability at this point.
>>81340137
you are, retard
>>81340266
"Shut up xDD lemme bost ans fedora meems."
t. >>81339115 & >>81338297
>>81340137
Yes you are. You resent all of western culture since the fall of rome to now.
Sure you may not be a nigger lover but you want to destroy the foundation of our culture which is religion. Do you realize how easy it would be to manipulate a culture with no foundation or scripture to guid them?
>>81335346
Not really. Without America, Erdogan doesn't succeed.
>>81340614
I haven't posted any fedora memes.
>>81337048
People didn't magically turn atheist back then. It was a Muslim country, but not a Muslim state.
America more or less installed this guy around 2002.
>>81340632
>>81340758
this
the US has funded islamist movements for decades, to keep the Soviets occupied and the oil flowing
>>81340529
>croatia
>calls someone a retard
>>81340616
Cultural marxists pretty much love niggers and also support the globalist system, i do neither of those. Also i am fine with the modern christianity or the new testament and i don't even require them to accept homosexuality even alot of christians themselves accept them already.
>Scripture to guide them
So pretty much a nation is easy to seize down if we don't take our moral values from certain scriptures?
>>81337234
Sharia is not on the table right now desu. Westerners try to simplify things into two camps: secular and pro-sharia. Statistically (I'll give proofs in a minute), about 10% of turks support sharia, and they are either naive villagers with little education or the most repressed part of turkish society in other areas. The real issue at hand is authoritarianism, i.e. how erdogan is the new turkish Andrew Jackson- only worse. Of course his policies lean islamist but only part of his voters actually support increased islamic influence. A large chunk votes for him for his economic liberalism and infrastructure development. Thus, he can't do anything too crazy or else he'll face the wrath of nearly everyone in the turkish demographic, including his own voterbase. The military didn't support a coup because it's too early for one, too many people are still akp loyalists because akp hasn't dropped the ball yet like all other governments have before turkish coups. Once akp fucks up irreparably (and it will), the military junta will be at his throat. Expect another coup around the time of the switch to a presidential system and/or the writing of a new constitution. If there isn't one, it either means turkey is 100% fucked since erdogan has control of the military too, or it means that these changes don't have the theoretical effect of dictatorship that people think they will and everything goes okay.
>>81328560
He was of Albanian origin from his paternal side of the family, I don't know about Slavic. Definitely Balkan though, hence White.
>>81328560
>they were stealing boys and cucking themselves
only in your fantasies
>>81326063
>married for two years
>wife divorced him and then lived in seclusion for fifty years
>courts and family banned the publishing of her letters and diary
What the fuck happened with his wife?
>>81326840
He doesn't look Slavic at all, most South Slavs look like pic related.
>>81333297
>>81334806
not an argument
>>81342632
>expects religious people throw arguments instead of shitty ad hominems.
