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What Will The Future Of Turkey Be After This Failed Coup?
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>>81287626
Islamism.
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A democratically elected government.
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>>81287626
Caliphate, inshallah.

>>81287681
For you.
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>>81287626
idiot people had two choices they picked islam
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REAL MILITARY COUP WILL HAPPEN IN THIS NIGHT BELIEVE OR NOT PRAISE KEK PRAISE ATATURK
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>>81287626
Islamic State of Turkey
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>>81287626
He will now purge the secular army and build his islamic caliphate.

Hail Hydra
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The death of EU
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Pakistan 2: Islamic Boogaloo
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>>81288006
I believe you. Do you have sources?
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Ottoman Empire soon my friend
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>>81288006
RISE UP MY KEMALIST FRIEND
GATHER THE KEMALISTS SECULARISTS AND NATIONALIST AND WIPE THE ISLAMIST TRASH OUT OF YOUR COUNTRY!
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>>81287626
>Turdogan will become increasingly more paranoid.
>Purge of anyone The Turd King thinks is plotting against him (military/political/civilian).
>erDoggy becomes Sultan.
>Turkey becomes the Islamic State.
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>>81288044
I expect he will be assassinated.
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>>81288006
You ain't going to do shit roach, except run around whacking haram people with sticks and looking for anything that might offend Allah.

You had your chance and you blew it.

Have fun giving up your movies, bars, diners and libraries in exchange for mosques and prayer mats
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>>81288006
do it
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>>81287626
More what's happen before.
>Soldiers jailed
>Officers jailed
>Journalists speaking in favour of the coup jailed
>Gatherings dispersed by the based water canons
>Kurds killed
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flight of the secular turk, expect millions from western turkey

we lost, save yourselves from islamism before its too late
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>>81287626
Ottoman Empire when?
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>>81287626
I don't think you understand what's happened exactly, coup d'etats in turkey aren't like the average ones we see around the world (the military trying to take over and control the country), they're kemalists who are sworn to defend the country from islamist and reinstate secularism.

last nights events meant that Erdogan has successfully cucked the very foundation that his own country was built upon. He literally has armed men to defend his reign, not the country's sovereignty

ultimately, this is very bad news for all of us. We don't want that to happen but it did
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>>81288006
Kemal is dead, and his worshippers are fucked.
The Creator is alive and will not die. The Ummah will be united again! Either under a Turk, an Arab, a Whitey, or even a Malay. We will be united and peace shall reign over this mortal temporary world!
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>>81288006
your country is finished.

enjoy sharia.

i mean that unironically, turkey is done for.
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It was a stupid idea to begin with, attempting a coup when everyone was still awake. Just imagine the same situation at 2 am and the roaches wouldn't have had the chance to get out in masses.
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Iran 2
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>>81288484
Hey Mitre how's the macadamia doing?
Heard there were protests and riots going on, what's the situation really like on the ground?
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800-1200 Kemalist Soldiers vs 3000-5000 Police and a bunch of islamic dogs, who's gonna win?
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>>last night happening
>>wake up this morning
>>happening is over

Kill me now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4
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>>81288484
It just means that turks are subhumans who would fight against the people trying to defend the values and freedom of their own country. They had their chance to reedem themselves and they failed the test, now it's time to wipe them off the map.
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>>81288173
10/10
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>>81288006
please don't come to germany after turney turned into a caliphate.
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IF CONSECUTIVE IDENTICAL DIGITS A NEW COUP ATTEMPT WILL ENSUE TONIGHT
KEK SAVE US
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>>81287766
>A democratically elected government.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHA

Seriously, lad, you drunk?
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>>81288738
police are more operator funnily
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>>81288422
>flight of the secular turk, expect millions from western turkey

We need to FUCKING SHUT DOWN THE BORDERS NOW! 100,000 SOLDIERS AT THE TURKISH BORDER NOW!

We need to not led them through.
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Turk Wars II: Attack of the Coups when?
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>>81288917
>IF CONSECUTIVE IDENTICAL DIGITS A NEW COUP ATTEMPT WILL ENSUE TONIGHT

BS. Your Islamists are stronger. Religion of Peace(TM) will strike again.

There is no Muslim country which has democracy, never was and never will be.
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>>81288770
great entertainment isn't it
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>>81288006
You are finished if you are too afraid to fire in the mob anyway.
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KEK
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>erdoroaches in germany literally campaigned for their king in the streets yesterday
>3000 in Berlin
>2400 in Stuttgart
>1800 in Karlsruhe
>1500 in Hamburg
>450 in Bremen
fucking hell just nuke these shitholes to glass
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>>81288738

...The one who buys ISIS oil?
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>>81288006
>ataturk
Atta roach.
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>>81289304
lol u got what u asked for german cucks
i remember when i was in a remote town near dortmund last year
i'd say visually the ratio of sand niggers to whites was like 3 to 1
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>>81287626
Islamic dictatorship
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>>81287626
it's going to move to Germany
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>Narrative forms
>Rapefugees aren't safe in Turkey
>Neither are a lot of Turks
>Herr Merkel invites them all to Europe
>Encourages them to flood Britain before they can invoke Article 50
>Takes final revenge
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>>81287766
you know that 90% of the Quran is about 'if you don't have a theocratic government and shariah law and kill a few infidels Allah will burn you in fire for eternity' right
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>>81288948

Nah just a non-EU lad with a democratically elected government.

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>>81287626
islamists WON, it will be Sharia-Law
erdogan faked a small putsch because he was afraid of a big one.! now he knows his foes, the Türkisch Republic is screwed
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>>81288006
kek
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>>81287766
brainwashed moron, trump is a grumpy trump, that means he is far far right, that means he is islamist (he supposts ISIS at least this is leaked)
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>>81289069
fug
i guess it's really over
spread your loose tolerant borders for me germ chan
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>>81289304
Same in the Netherlands, turkroaches (3rd or 4th generation) born and raised in the Netherlands claiming they hope the coup in THEIR country will fail and they hope THEIR president and THEIR government will stay in power

>Just fuck my shit up
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>>81288231

His likeness had already been digitized, like all world leaders. Even in death, they can talk shit about you.
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World wars and Cold war was about establishing a global free trade system.
Now that it's done, next comes rigthing the wrongs of WW2, and WW1 for Turkey in particular. It's possible a pre-WW1 social order will be formed, like neo-Ottoman state, primarily dealing with the problems of middle east and collapsing Arab states.
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>>81288770
islamists WON,
erdogan faked a small putsch because he was afraid of a big one.! now he knows his foes, the Republic is screwed
>>81290048
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>>81288006
DO IT
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>>81288548
Tamponrag my old friend
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>>81288173
>Ottoman Empire soon my friend

with special prices for all.

>>81289001
>>flight of the secular turk, expect millions from western turkey
>We need to FUCKING SHUT DOWN THE BORDERS NOW!

This is what I am really afraid of.
That and your cunt of a leader, who wont do what needs to be done.
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>>81287626
Well, now that he can jail the entire military, no one will be able to prevent him from going full Reich.

>>81287766
>tfw Germany claims that it will not accept coups and stand behind democratically elected governments, like Erdogan's
>TV interviews Turkroaches that say Erdogan is in the right and that his dictatorial ambitions ain't no thang because "nobody is perfect"
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>>81289304

Maybe the Kraut military should grow a pair before these Jihad Bunnies start fucking shit up.
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>>81287626
sultan is too op gg
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>>81288006
We need to build a wall, and you need to pay for it.
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>>81290298
This.
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>>81287626

A lot less tourists, that's for sure.
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>>81290295

>democracy
>real

Even in the West, I think voting is a load of shit, and totally bogus.
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>>81288006
>w-we were just pretending the first time!
kek

Good luck
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>>81287626
Constitutional changes, absolute dictatorship, opposition purge, sharia law, death penalty reinstated. The military will be flooded with radicalized fanatics and the kurds will get their shit pushed in.
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You know Turkey was the last Islamic State (caliphate) before the emergence of ISIS, right?
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>>81288006
we are going to be so fucked if civil war rage on. The arabs the turks on our border, our cucked gov must send the fucking army to go to the fucking border. ffs
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>>81290453
Thank you for stating the obvious implication of my post.
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>>81290604
Not in the same fashion, though.
Right?
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>>81287626
Who cares feigning interest. If the answer isn't to eliminate the entire populace of the middle east it's not worth taking note of.
There animals and it would be a great mercy. I'd suggest nukes but fall out will prevent salvaging anything like oil etc.
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>>81287626
Muslamic Turk stink dogs will feel stronger and turn everything even shittier.

I hope this at least sets back Turkey's plan to join the EU.
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9/11 Docs were released yday and no one talks about them, right?

Hmmm really makes you think
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>>81288548
>We
>Japan

oh
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>>81290648
>implying Erdogan cares about Europe and not his eastern claims
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>>81290693
Impalement, crucifixion, sharia...The Sultan held the title of Caliph...I'd say it is the same thing.
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>>81287626
caliphate

sharia compliant within 5 years i bet
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>>81290890
Give us a tl;dr, baltshit?
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>>81288224
I keked harder at this that I should.
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>>81291036
go hug an albanian
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>>81287626

ErdoÄŸan will declare anyone who opposes his authority a coup supporter and crack down hard on them.
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>>81288153
>I believe you. Do you have sources?
You got your priorities all twisted up. You're supposed to believe him after sources are provided.
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>>81291104
Haha ok I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, give us a tl;dr PLEASE
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>>81291351
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/15/politics/congress-releases-28-pages-saudis-9-11/

Everybody was talking about this yesterday prior to events in Turkey, now media and people are silent
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>>81291351
>Haha ok I'm sorry I hurt your feelings
You were acting like a shit for some stupid reason
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New islamist constution. Presidential republic. Erdogan as president for life, confirmed by "elections" every couple of years. Uniform state-controlled media landscape. Internet blockings. Limited rights to assembly and demonstration indefinitely. Violent supression of the Kurds. Any kind of dissent rooted out immediately. Continued terrorist attacks every couple of months.

In short: Islam, Erdogan, only uniform state-approved opinions.
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>>81291476
Why, because I called him a baltshit? Is this the /nu-pol/ where we don't have banter? Fuck, I'm sorry ok. Please don't downvote me.
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>>81289304
Why don't you fight against them?
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>>81288598
Yeah because people wouldn't wake up from all the noise of shooting around, explosions. Soldiers marching in and tanks engines and jets roaring above your head.
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I really feel bad for turkey right now

they were so based 10-15 years ago

what went so wrong
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>>81291859
Islamists took over and purged the military so they could no longer do a succesful coup.
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>>81287626

What will be the future of german-turkish relations after Merkel refused to give Erdogan's plane landing permission and sent jets after him?
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>>81291322
nope, he can stop believing after he fails to provide source
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>>81291677
You seem like someone with brains.
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>>81287626
Half failed state, half Greater Armenia.
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>>81291859
They call ataturk a traitor and anti-islamist now

And ataturk predicted this and said we should stand strong even if they got all the control

I fucking miss ataturk, he was the best leader this country got
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>>81288006
F
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Holy shit do I feel bad for the sane, non-islamistic turkbros. Be brave.
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>>81291754
joke's on you I live in Dresden
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How do they know it "failed"?

How would he regain control of the military?
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>>81288809
as much as I hate Erdogan, he was elected.
The coupist soldiers didn't have support so they made an error.
Ukraine, Egypt, Tunisia, Lybia, there wea a massive support to overthrow the government. This is not the case of yesterday
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>>81289276
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Kemalism is officially dead in Turkey.
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I ask the baltshit to give me a tl;dr from /pol/ perspective, he links me a CNN article and now I have to read it.
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What will happen to Geert Wilders now? Stay safe /pol/bro.
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>>81292347
"elected"
are you kidding? he was put on government and everything was masked as democratic election
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>>81292390
Sad but true
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>>81292105
>They call ataturk a traitor and anti-islamist now
you were robbed of your country
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They're gonna suck off Muhammad once a day
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>Turkish authorities have issued an alarm to border gates and airports upon being informed that prominent members of the Gulen Movement, including journalists, might flee the country following the overnight attempted military coup, according to state-run press agency Anadolu.

>The report says authorities discovered the plans after lists were found detailing the commanders and their deputies to be put in charge during the period of martial law if the coup had succeeded.

>Turkey’s acting chief of the general staff, Gen. Umit Dundar, said Saturday that the military is determined to purge members of the movement of Fethullah Gulen, a Muslim cleric living in exile in Pennsylvania, from the ranks.


Expect more notes implicating key opposition leaders and parties to be """"""found"""""" in the next few days.
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>>81292618
Yup, im leaving in like 4 years, it will be an jihadist shithole that i dont want to live in, well im on itu actually, second best uni in turkey so with a bit of work i can go to oxford/harvard i assume
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>>81292275
like that's a good thing
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>>81287626
Yet another islamic hellhole.
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>>81292757
>after lists were found detailing the commanders and their deputies to be put in charge during the period of martial law if the coup had succeeded.
this seems a bit too convenient, this whole coup attempt seems weird
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>>81288006
Please be true. This has been the year of kek may it continue.
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>>81288006
Given the 1500+ men and officers purged from the military today under the guise of rounding up the conspirators were the secularists that were the counter-balance to Erdogan's rule, I bet it could happen.

Woops. Was removing the secularists from the military what Erdogan wanted to do all along and this Gulenist revolt was the excuse needed to grab them?
We may never know.
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>>81292937
It was a theatre planned by erdagon, he just confirmes his presidency with this
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Roachbros is this the end of Ataturk's legacy? I know almost nothing about it but I understood Ataturk fought to make a secular Turkey, and that the military option of staging a Coup was essentially the safeguard against a government stepping away from secularism back towards Islam.

Right? Wrong?
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>>81292526
I don't know if the elections were rigged but he called his supporters to rush in the street and they did it, so he definitely have more support in the country than those coupist soldiers
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>>81292105
:(
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>>81288006
Do it coward.
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>>81292347
>elected
Erdogan had come under fire for electoral fraud numerous times. I feel bad for secular turks who are having their country stolen from them.
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>>81293435
Nope, all the coup supporters stayed indoors, we even had a hasthag that said "LeaveTheStreets" only ones on the streets were jihadists
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>>81287626
PREPARING ANUS
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>>81293365
Kinda yes, ataturk supporters like me will never end but we lose control day by day
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>>81288641
why are diaspora so universally shit?
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>>81293610
M8,hope u best of lucks against this dictator
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>>81288006
>yfw this "coup" was just a ruse to give Erdogan the impression of consolidating his power and make public appearences, making it easier to capture him.
Is it really over?
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>>81293780
Nah it is over
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>>81293780
I don't think so, it is more like Spain, coup d'etat et apres une guerre civile
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>>81293742
Thanks dude but im leaving soon like i dont want to live in a country where my soldiers are getting beheaded for obeying orders
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>>81288006
Dream on Kemal.
Your sister will be wearing a burkha by midnight...
....and you'll be married off!
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>>81293610
so, as a Turkbro said here, it was just bad coordination? it was rushed because there were fears of Gulenists purges in the military?
why people supporting the coupists didn't go to the streets like Erdogan supporters?
I understand you want to avoid civil war but this is a coup, you can't succeed without people support on the street
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>>81288006
let's go, boys
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>>81288006
pffffft you fags lost your chance. the next happening is probably going to be another kurdish bombing.
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>>81293889

Fuck off

We don't need pussies like you anyway
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Post yfw COUP FAILED.
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>>81293889
Good luck. Where will you go?

Are you a secular Muslim or not religious?

Are your views widely held among other Turks?

I'm very interested in this stuff desu.
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>>81293889

Fuck you stay out of Europe
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>>81292082
Sounds like 2 failed states tbqh.
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>>81294221
>wake up
>Erdogan is still in power
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>>81292792

Stay strong m8, I hope you make it out of there.
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>>81294221
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>>81287626
Eternal reign of Sultan Erdogan I.
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>>81287766

KEK
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the future?

>these will now have to wear the burka
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>>81293954
>why people supporting the coupists didn't go to the streets like Erdogan supporters?

Because those loyal to ataturk ideals would support the military in a secular coup. They wouldn't go to the streets because the military said not to (they enforced a curfew.)

Those in the streets were islamists. All of the mosques were rallying their followers.
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>>81293954
So the thing is if it was a real secular coup half of the people would support the military like they were people on the streets cheering the military too, the thing is this was staged and unlike in a real coup people could get on the streets without fear, if any jihadists were shot by army they would go back to their holes like the scum they are, also they did not shot down erdogans's plane when they had chance to, hell they did not even tried to capture it and when he attemted to land army retreated the airport like wtf ? All that happened happened to the poor soldiers that were obeying the orders and seculer proper turkish citizens
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Isreal will march in into Turkey tonight.
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>>81294211
Kys erdofag
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Goddamn man, coup declaration script was so beautiful... I blieved that is is really going to happen for a while...
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>>81294464
Israel is very happy about this result
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>>81294246
Secular muslim, anyone i have conversation with has the same views as me, probrably england as i got invites from some colleges there
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>>81294403
Ive been to turky 12 times and NEVER seen girls who look like these
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>>81294221
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Erdogan will purge the gülenists in the military and other institutions.
ultra-Kemalists will actually profit from this.
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Who is Fantaman?
Was the coup part of his plan?
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>>81294592
have you been to Izmir?
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>>81294544
Right, it felt like ataturk's second coming, all that secularism and accusations of erdogan's shit
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>>81294696
Yeah bro... I'm so fucking disappointed right now. Ever right-wing people praise Erdogan and the whole world call him a hero. Even who opposed him before...

Well, shit... At least I'm leaving soon. That is a little relief.
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>>81288006
You know, I actually suspect this may the case. Erdo may have done this to bait coup radicals out and seize all power, but I think things may actually start getting organized on the coup side. The ranks have to realize this is all or nothing. Especially when the purges of the leadership start. The lack of news of the Turkish Navy is also making matters interesting.

Which may be the first Army corps to rebel? 6th Corps is around Adana (and Incirlik AFB). Maybe the CIA is operating also out of Incirlik?
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>>81294544
Please translate
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>>81294568
Fuck off, we are full.
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>>81294616
Kemalists will suffer as well. It was an actual fucking coup attempt, militaries were purged for less than that.
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>>81294957
Im gonna fuck your wimmins with my huge arab benis :DDDD
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>>81287626

> army asks people to stay inside and be safe
> erdoshit asks people to go outside and chimp out

nice president, turkey
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>>81294221

Wasn't expecting it to succeed, anyway
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>>81291036
Enjoy your Rapefugees piling up there
You got good hamburgers though, good luck remove kebab
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>>81294966
>Kemalists will suffer as well.
That's great!
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Reminder that Obongo supports the """democratically""" """elected""" """President""" Erdogan.
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>>81294953
ah it's a long text but google translate may roughly handle it I guess. I you get the main idea.

goo gl/jxb110
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>>81295218
What's great about an islamic shithole across the border? Black Sea is a glorified pond.
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>korkmaz, sönmez

söndü...
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>>81288917
i got this
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>>81287626
REFUGEES
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F
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G
E
E
S
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>>81295424
şehitler **öldü***
vatan **bölündü***
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>>81294270
you too
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>>81295361
>implying there's a difference between islamic shithole and ultranationalist muh atta we war u shithole
The great thing is roaches eating eachother. Divide and conquer.
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>>81292417
Here's a tl;dr from /pol/ perspective:
You suck balls.
Sincerely,
Anon
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>>81294568
come here, as long as you don't genocide the Armenians again, we're cool. We even have the same food.
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http://www.dailystormer.com/was-the-turkish-coup-an-erdogan-hoax/
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>>81294221
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>>81289304
Destroy west German cities you say?
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>>81294858
Fck... I wanted him down. So angry when I see videos of people beating up the surrending soldiers in the streets...
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>>81295759
we lost man, all is gone now, darkness ahead.
usque ad finem
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>>81288006
In your dream turkroach. Enjoy living under Islamic tyranny for the rest of your miserable life.
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>Reuters is reporting that an anti-Government group has taken over a frigate and taken the head of the Turkish fleet hostage at Turkey’s Golcuk naval base.

New happenings.
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Aslo see;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

Erdogan is Hitler reincarnated.
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>>81295913
But roaches breed faster in darkness?
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All muslims on my newsfeed are going Allahu Ackbar praise allah that Erdogan won

I'm sure Mama Merkel is happy.
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>>81287626
Fuck of, Erdogans voters can only roar allahuakbar in the camera because those goat fucker are to dumb for politics.
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How does a coup like that fail? You already had the military mobilized. At that point it's all or nothing. Why didn't they just shoot Erdoroaches on sight? At this point it's either death in battle or death by hanging.

Blocking a couple of bridges isn't enough, you have to pull through.
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>>81296116

It wasn't the whole military you dip.
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>>81296051
delet dem, now
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>>81293889
Stay and fight.
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>>81296116
"the military" wasn't involved
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>>81296116
Apparently it was very rushed. Erdogan was aware of the sentiment, so it was a 'harakiri' style nigh on suicidal attempt.
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>day of coup: martial law set
>the next week after the coup:
>martial law is still in place.
>enemies of erdogan inside the military will mysteriously disappear.
>two months later:
>martial law still hasnt been receded.
>All suspected unloyal leaders in the military have been replaced.
>crack down on civilian opposition
>political opponents go missing
>election year: still martial law
>no election held
>erdogan becomes president for life.
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They will continue down the path of Thailand, a military coup every 20 fuckin' years.
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>>81296197
No point of fighting divide and conquerbro

We lost a long ago, this was our only light of hope
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>>81289001
itll be funny, merkel wont let secular turk in but ones turkey is properly islamified, they'll be allowed into the EU and literally swarms of islamists will flood every EU country
Shit will be cash. I cant wait for the happenings threads that day
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>>81296469
Pls no.
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>>81296405
>have to wait 20 years for the next happening
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Fuck it, I'm leaving.
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>>81296413
Good luck and God speed Turk bro.
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>>81287626
Down-pointing pentagram which represents Satan with a comet tail suggesting falling...i.e falling angel.

Literally the public display of a devil flag.
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Even the french tv says the coup was staged by Erdogan.
Turquie is a dictatorship now?
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>>81295971
if only
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>>81296116
Mainly because it was few battalions and some air units. All in all, they didn't have the power to do shit and probably relayed on other commanders joining in.
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>>81289304
>Thousands of Turks parading through German cities
HAHAHAHAHA

laughingHitler.jpg
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Just got up. Did the coup really fail? Any hope? Any happenings expected tonight?
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>>81297062
Yeap failed. Turkey is now on my naughtie list. Fucked forever.

The real mistake was not killing Erdogan when he started replacing the military leaders with his buddies a couple of years ago.
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>>81296900
How are things in France? Are you guys still under emperor Holland or has he returned liberte to you? I am seriously asking, since I know you guys were under some kind of special law after Bataclan that was supposed to prevent other attacks, but was used to push some shady shit.
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Turkey will be cucked forever now
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>>81292082
You mean half Hellas and half Greater-Armenia?

Oh right, it's the same thing.
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WILL THIS RESULT IN CIVIL WAR?

OR WILL YOU TURKS JUST BEND OVER AND TAKE IT?
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>>81288484
>guy defends his country from turning into a cucked shithole controlled by jews
>"w-we lost pol :("
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>>81295971
This!

This is Erdogans Reichstagsbrand. He is learning from the best.
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>>81296713
come to UK, need to balance out islamist roaches with secular ones
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>>81287626

Erdoscum will further cement his position in power and Turkey will go further towards islamism. He will purge military even further, in addition to Gulenist idiots
remaining Kemalists in military will end up on gallows.
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What's the difference between ab Islamist and a Muslim?
I see the term Islamist used often now.
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>>81297722
an islamist believes that a political system should be based on islam.
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>>81297217
The state of emergency has been extended, but honnestly this doesn't change anything. Maybe less criminality in the subway, not sure...
Next president in 2016, and once again nothing will change.
There is absolutely no reason to be interested by my country.
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>>81297722
Muslim: Anyone that is born Muslim.

There are Muslims who are only Muslim because they worn Muslim. They hardly do any Muslim thing like pray and shit.

Islamist: Any practicing Muslim is Islamist.
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>>81297722

In theory muslim is just a muslim, just a person that is religious. Islamist is muslim that has religion as it's political ideology.

In practice there is little to no difference at all.
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>>81297722
Islamists want Sharia Law.

A muslim is just a believer in the Koran.
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>>81297888
2017
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Where were you when the last hope of the Ottomans failed?
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>>81287626
at this point isis basically won
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>>81297930
The other guy who replied >>81297804
says something different, what do you call people of his description of the meaning.

It does seem like Islam.is taking over countries but nor by force, through immigration, religion and politics. A combination of those until the entire country is an Islamic State.
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>>81298328
Islam is delicate when it comes to faith. Rejecting a single Quranic verse means the end of your faith and you turning Kafir or Murtad (apostate).

Say you have a modern Muslim that says Jinns are not real, he is a kafir and murtad. Because the Quran clearly states that Jinns exist.

Similarly, Shariah Law is the law of the Quran and rejecting it means you are no longer a Muslim. So you can't be a Muslim and go against Shariah Law at the same time.
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What's happening in Ankara? I haven't heard anything from there.
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>>81297722
"islamic" is anything that has to do with Islam and muslims.
"islamistic" is used for aggressively advancing Islam and fundamentalist islamic beliefs.

the second is a rather recent buzzword that is widely used in politics and media. the intent is to call them "islamistic terrorist", because use of "islamic terrorists" would upset the muslim populations everywhere and lead to this huge theological debate about who is a proper muslim and who isn't. it's basically a made-up word to talk about violent and extremist muslims with relative impunity. the good guys are "islamic", the bad guys are "islamistic". nothing more to it.
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>>81287626
RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKHa9ldznx8
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>>81298866
yup, muslims can "moraly" kill other muslims if they takfeer them as non-muslims before doing so, this is what IS do all the time they kill other Sunnis, declaring them defacto non-muslims
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>>81298909

Everyone got tired staying up all night so they are just sleeping.
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>>81295186
>refugees
our countries are too shit even for the refugees, in case you haven't noticed
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>>81293842
Fucking gay Turks. Explain to me why you assholes elect a religious, authoritarian fanatic in your democratic elections so many times in a row? You fuck don't care that the opposition is being killed as long as the guy in power believes in Sharia? What the fuck?
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>>81299033
I fucking Cringe everytime i here the term RADICAL ISLAM, its just Islam ffs!
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>>81297506
>This is Erdogans Reichstagsbrand. He is learning from the best.

Didn't Erdegon say Hitler was the ideal leader or some shit months ago?
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>>81299107
>muslims can "moraly" kill other muslims

No, Shariah says that it is the job of the government to give the punishment. No vigilantes.
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>>81288422
as far as i'm concerned, you secular turks are more than welcome here in the states, just help to point out the islamists and we'll call it even
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>>81299303
yeah, didnt mean vigilants
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>>81299303
But they also say it's the religious leaders who should be governing right?
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>>81299268
RAD
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>>81299303
and its only a Caliph that can declare offensive jihad.. otherwise Jihad has to be portraid as defensive to the outside world even tough it in most cases are offensive
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If my post ends in 610 (the start of Islam), the coup is over for good.
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>>81288598
maybe they expected left wing to help them.
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