>written in the year 2000
literally how
>>81271092
The next revelation is yet to come.
>>81271092
Because kojima is a pretty smart dude. Him and the other main writer that did mgs2. That game is crazy ahead of its time.
>>81271351
>>81271092
What is this and why should I care
Because the whole chan and screaming meme thing first started in japan.
>>81273312
hello, reddit
>>81271092
When you're immortal you tend to notice patterns in human behavior I'm sure he's seen similar things when the printing press, radio and other things were invented
>>81271386
>smart
hard to believe considering how shit MGS 5 was, and also how he dropped the ball on silent hills
>>81271092
>pic related written in 1973
>The novel depicts a setting wherein Third World mass immigration to France and the West leads to the destruction of Western civilization.
>>81273523
Yeah I visit reddit for the live happening threads. More cogent, concise and real info tbqhwyfamilia
>>81271092
This shit has been happening since the cold war days.
You don't see it because you're a fucking blue pilled hamburger.
MGS2 and SMAC are the most red pilled games out there
Maybe include dude sex in there, and one of the infinity engine cRPGs too
>>81271092
Because what is happening once was happening, and is still always be happening.
The cycles don't die
>>81273312
>take my money already
>if this gets 100 likes il do something random XDDD
>bro fist
>drumpf 2016
Did that make more sense?
>>81273750
I'm doxxing you right now
Kojima ripped off the plots of 5 older sci Fi movies and a bunch of Cyberpunk shit. It's cool that he put it in his game though
The latest release the Phantom Pain touched on two topics which might become more apparent in the future, language and private platforms in international waters.
We'll probably be hearing more about these platforms in the years to come as they get more popular the same way drones did.
As for the language bit, maybe the appropriation of one culture by another, I'm thinking Anglo Christian bigots appropriating the Christian legacy for themselves through things like the KJO movement and other strands of Christianity being increasingly forgotten.
>>81273861
Smac?
>>81275697
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
>>81271092
Do any of you guys have the .jpg of this whole speech. I at one time had it but i have a new computer and don't have it anymore.
>I'm not working on Mother Base as non-military personal
Wake me from this nightmare
>>81271092
Hey young fag.
This was all happening before Kojima made the game. He was just commenting on things that were already going on at the time. The PC craze actually started in the 90's.
I'm sorry, but Kojima is not a prophet.
>>81275791
Ok, thanks!
>>81273608
>Literally all Konami
>>81273750
Consider suicide
>>81275268
The truth tapes are an hour of uninterrupted redpills on societal control. It makes the 50 hours of grinding worth it.
>>81271092
the dude just literally copied stuff from introduction course in media studies and none of it is particularly "mindblowing" either, rhetoric, memes, discourse, ideology and concept of power as topics have been beaten to death in the field
I swear if you people stop making fun of social sciences maybe one day you'll learn a thing or two from liberal arts
>>81276540
You think they teach that IN media studies? I had to learn that (but not quite what you are alluding to) OUTSIDE of media studies. Peers and professors always looked at me like i was taking things too seriously. It's a very important subject, but not taught with any vigor. I hated it.
You have examples of where it is taught correctly?
>>81271092
/pol/ will not realise it is one of those gated communities.
>>81276080
https://youtu.be/_fRVftmNanM
>>81275268
Outer Heaven is founded on turning cultural distinctions into instruments of standardized control. Populations are stratified according to variations in their lingual proficiency and duly integrated into the Boss' military-industrial system of control. A Babylonic social order beuracratizing the capacity for mutual intelligibility within and between groups reaches an equilibrium of efficiency when each individual node in the social network is ambivalent towards its own mutual intelligibility with the rest of the system as a whole.
Total disintegration of collective identity allows people to become the human equivalent of Turing's Chinese-speaking machine.
>>81276080
>The PC craze actually started in the 90's.
Try a couple decades earlier.
>>81278032
Not as much as other communities. Truths do clash and mesh around here and we're advancing the dialectic. Like in terms of economic I've seen the board gradually move from laissez-faire to national socialism.
>>81278032
Sure there's a dominant opinion of things on here but this is nowhere near like other websites. There's no account to be banned for posting an opposing opinion. Anyone can make a thread and discuss a topic. Bans are rarely handed out, just take a look at any boards catalog to see blatant shitpost threads.
Kojima predicted everything. Isn't jade helm basically the patriots AI system?
>>81277862
I think the field of study that deals in proving theorems of computational logic expressing high-level abstractions is where the serious study of that subject gets done. Not sure what exactly the field would be called in liberal arts terms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_machine
>>81278797
I've been here since 2008, ten years. I'm probably still a newfag, but I've also witnessed this transformation, when 4chan was exceedingly liberal and constantly hated and shit on republicans.
But even back then we all still loved Hitler.
>this thread
/pol/ confirmed for absolutely based
>>81279290
Who is solid snake though?
MGS1/2/3 Were not written by Kojima, they were written by Tomokazu Fukushima. Who suddenly disappeared one night riding the metro.
>>81280089
Undercover agent. We won't find out about his exploits until the information is declassified.
>>81277862
>You think they teach that IN media studies?
I've had this weird feeling that ANY other country than UK and US (and obviously some other certain western european countries) does not suffer from the "our liberal arts/social science faculty is fucking shit and infested with retards", which is why I'm tempted to believe that's the entire reason behind this stereotype that /pol/ keeps buying into that it is useless
half the time when I follow discussions on here, the answer to how solve almost all of the issues you have with the world can only be found in these very fields that are so corrupted in the west/english dominant countries
and now i put on my tinfoil hat
>You have examples of where it is taught correctly?
well, this may come as no surprise but in Netherlands liberal arts faculties are really autistic about keeping these things "rigorous" and "critical" so half of the feminist shit doesn't fly as well here (it's hard to argue bullshit when you are supposed to have read like 800 pages on the topic and you look like a fool when you haven't - all liberals suffer from a painful intellectual superiority complex so they can't risk appearing looking dumb, but don't worry you won't escape the feminists and commies either way)
>>81271092
everything is right except the last part.
everyone is being forced to interact and the truth will come out eventually.
>>81275925
This one?
>>81280660
>half the time when I follow discussions on here, the answer to how solve almost all of the issues you have with the world can only be found in these very fields
wut, elaborate please. I don't see how fucking liberal arts is bound to save the world. The woröd should be saved from it.
Kojima is hack
If you think that this is surprisingly foreshadowing (or even smart) then you are a fucking imbecile
>>81281053
Literally this, shit like this has happened before and will continue to happen.
>>81280834
it's not as much as save the world as the matter of the topic that you study
can you figure out how to solve religious tensions using math? no? how about chemistry? see the problem? social science/liberal arts fields deal with society, people, language, all the stuff you take for granted
when your field of study gets occupied by absolute idiots who then hijack it to use the theories that attempt to describe the world in order to change it you start getting people like marxists, and it doesn't matter if it's math or sociology it will look ugly
lib arts have a lot lower entrance though so they are the first to suffer - hard sciences follow eventually as you can see in US
>>81278797
Everything in this post demonstrates that the cardinal truths of each individual NEITHER clash NOR mesh. Your (((observation))) of a transitioning consensus is the egotistic narrative of your own political "development" being projected onto the cesspool of society at large. The 'truths' you and every other anon leaks from their respective little ponds of impression onto 4chan constitute the accumulating digital refuse of humanity's collective unconscious which GW is condemning.
>>81271092
These just seem like vague things that probably were an attack on the "pc" culture of 90 that attacked video games, music etc. for being violent/anti-christian. Kojima is a lefty cuck. His new game forces you to safe nigger kids in Africa and the mission fails if you kill one.
>>81281467
Anon they're child soldiers.
>>81281316
>can you figure out how to solve religious tensions using math?
no. try common sense.
>>81271092
DID YOU SAY... NADS?
>>81281316
>can you figure out how to solve religious tensions using math? no? how about chemistry? see the problem? social science/liberal arts fields deal with society, people, language, all the stuff you take for granted
Yet they tend to produce shit like critical theory and cultural relativism.
>>81271092
>>>/v/ you gayming faggot
>>81273743
DUDE THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS GOING TO LIBRARY TOMORROW
MGS2 was shit
>>81282110
>that flag
I know you are probably shitposting but "The Camp of the Saints" is an amazing book. It predicted what is happening now with startling clarity (Cuck pope for example).
Check it out.
https://archive.org/details/CampOfTheSaints_201510
>>81282532
Not shitposting leaf, genuinely excited (sometimes the flag is a curse). Thanks for post.
>>81281864
do you bother reading what i write? am i wasting my time here?
for the your sake so you might at least think about this topic a little harder here:
you have three layers of organization
a) politics (e.g. left, lib v. right, conservative)
b) universities (which can be politically aligned and/ or)
c) and faculties (the people that actually teach and organize the courses)
now returning to your scepticism of CT and CR (return to the previous post where I make a distinction between theories that describe the world and those that are used as tools, which one do you think CT started off was? why do you dislike CT in the first place other than how it is used?) how do you think the various levels can make the rest of them political? political regimes influence universities, who in turn tell faculties what they can do
the faculties, courses and universities are inherently apolitical (or are supposed to be) so at some level somebody has to make it political from above or by infiltration, what /pol/ does is makes the mistake conflating political ideologies with universities and various faculties
tl;dr because i cant be bothered to continue writting an essay - STEM is no more conservative than Liberal Arts and Lib arts are no more liberal than STEM; they're both taught by people who choose a political affiliation and mingle it with their work in this case education
STEM builds us machines and tools to make life better, Liberal arts teaches us what a better life is in the first place - /pol/ talks about social issues and proposes hard solutions for soft problems and vice versa
>>81281449
When one leading idea is replaced by another I'd say that's an example of said ideas clashing.
What did kojima mean by this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4XenU6tyI
>>81271092
It was already a problem back then
It was already a fear back then
Kojima's probably read about the Mouse Utopia experiment
>>81271092
how about kojima was a commie all along
KONAMI BACKWARDS = IM A NO(RTH) K(OREAN)
>>81273861
Original Deus Ex too
>>81283285
he is one of them, they did it all in front of our faces. even in a mainstream video game.
>>81271092
Because this has been going on since the OSP during WWII at least.
Tomokazu Fukushima wrote MGS1
>brilliant story, everyone hails it
Tomokazu Fukushima wrote MGS2
>story that was not understood at the time of its release, understood and praised years later
Tomokazu Fukushima wrote MGS3
>everyone fucking loves the writing
Hideo Kojima personally writes MGS4
>garbage, worst MGS game ever released
Hideo Kojima peronsally writes The Phantom Pain
>Seen as the most story devoid metal gear of all time
>Nobody fucking likes its story or lack thereof
Hideo Kojima personally writes his new game Death Stranding
>???
When will people realize it wasn't Kojima that was good, it was the people around him, people he no longer has access to
Sony gonna find out the hard way
>>81283411
you frickin fricks. all another illuminati gloat or "warning" they put in the MGS games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtFU6qsuY8E
>>81281316
>can you figure out how to solve religious tensions using math?
I dunno, why don't you ask the Chinese. Most of their leaders come from engineering backgrounds and I'd say they've had as much success with solving that issue as any other country.
>>81283697
Just reminded me how laughably terrible The Phantom Pains story was. What the fuck was all that shit with the indian about? Gameplay was good though, I liked calling in air strikes on commie bastards.
>>81280660
>I've had this weird feeling that ANY other country than UK and US (and obviously some other certain western european countries) does not suffer from the "our liberal arts/social science faculty is fucking shit and infested with retards", which is why I'm tempted to believe that's the entire reason behind this stereotype that /pol/ keeps buying into that it is useless
yeah.... not really.
>>81271092
The matrix just came out a year before
>>81283697
Yeah I realized this as well. TPP was supposed to be the "missing link" in the series and Kojimbles ended up writing a completely new stories featuring the biggest asspull ever (Skullface).
>le i cleaned up ur mess during mgs3 and nobody will remember me because i am BURNING UP, MAJOR
It has became a meme to hail Kojima as a god when in reality TPP sucked dick storywise. (gameplay was alright)
>>81283697
>MGS4
>way too much story. Semi clunky gameplay that's sparse. Lame boss fights. Some interesting mechanics.
>MGS5
>Great opener to zero story, lots of gameplay albeit shallow and repetitive. Feels half baked.
Tbh MGS should be passed along to someone that cares about the series.
>>81280089
>>81280251
Thanks for that. Now I've got something positive to think about.
Maybe there is some tough, grizzled bastard out there slinking around in the shadows, trying to fight in our best interests.
Huh.
>>81283697
MGS3's writing wan't even that good. Too many fucking twists, and they all came at the end.
>>81285223
I disagree
>>81280769
Yes. Thank you! Sorry about your country French Bro, you are always welcomed in America.
>>81285223
It was really the worst of the three. The story's not terrible and I don't mind the twists, but the overall plot was just average compared to 1 and 2. 2 was probably the best story wise, and the best sequel, it actually integrated the concept of sequels into itself to make it more than just a continuation of a story.
The only thing it did best was gameplay.
>>81281625
Children become adults
>>81283322
that's what i meant by "dude sex"
>>81281467
Originally he made it seem like you had to kill them, like in the red band trailer, I think he actually wanted to cross that line but wasn't allowed, though now that he's independent the blame can no longer be shifted to konami, so we'll see if he really is any good
>>81271092
Prove this was written in the year 2000
I'M STILLLLLLLL IN A DREAMMMMMMM
>>81275268
The overall theme, and what Skullface is trying to stop is the subjugation of humanity through language control.
The language virus in the game is truly frightening. Imagine a deadly virus that is transfered by/targeted to a specific language. Just speaking to a group could infect them.
>>81286484
The game was released November 12, 2001. It would have taken a good couple years to make.
>>81286287
Then there should have been consequences for leaving them alive. All the little nigglets become saints once you bring them on board only Liquid remains a piece of shit.
>>81281316
>can you figure out how to solve religious tensions using math?
X and Y eradicate each other.
Remove Y.
>how about chemistry?
Remove Y with WMDs
>>81273750
i thought the turks who posted here were fairly informative, just had to sift through all the false messages
Deus ex has some nice stuff as well.
https://youtu.be/JKF0IYwhrjk
bump for interest
>>81283169
just listen to this instead.
>perhaps the most based song to ever be written
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b-7tP7IW5Q
>>81273861
SYSTEM SHOCK 2 YOU FUCKING NORMIE
it's a metalevel redpill. imagine this voice as a liberal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp5xGLj1RME
>>81283147
Actual serious discussion of the economic and political benefits of national socialism has done nothing but decline over the last few years on /pol/, just like the prevalence of discussions based on serious libertarian ideals.
Nothing is supplanting anything; all are degrading in value.
Is this the thread where I can MGR post
>>81279657
i think you missed the topic by lightyears.
>>81271092
Because this shit has been happening since the dawn of human civilization.
Just what do you think religion is?
>>81294958
>study of memes, ideology, and power concepts as they pertain to the technologically emergent media
I don't think general principles of the topic can even be described without it ma8
>>81271092
> Conspiracies were invented after 2000.
Kill yourself.
>>81282948
"in this semester we learn about three different processor architectures,
oh yeah let in unlimited refugees by the way."
there is no way to teach political bias in stem fields.
>>81271092
>Kojima discovered mass media and political correctness in the 2000's
Wasn't he 30 years late?
Sad to see the cultural highpoint of our generation is a shitty video game that copy pasted marxist theories from the 70's
>>81271386
>Because kojima is a pretty smart dude
He is, but he is not a good writer. MGS2 was good because it wasn't a one-man project, multiply people worked on the story and Kojima wasn't an unquestionable god. MGS3 was still good but you can see there that he has too much free hand, and MGS4 and 5 speak for themselves with shaved dancing pooping monkey, bikini models snipers, vocal paradises and fuck if I know what, with barely any massage at all.
>>81276433
Agreed, i liked it just as much as MGS2.
Even had George Soros as the main badguy.
>>81283169
armstrong wasn't deep in any sense, he was a saturday morning cartoon villain, he is enjoyable while on the screen but don't compare to anything in MGS2
>>81296019
>the computers we use are von neumann architecture, it's turing complete, did you see imitation game, it's good hehe, turing was also pro refugee
>>81271092
This guy know a lot about this masterpiece of a game.
Also Solidus is probobly Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2YuPGYabw
>>81296500
>Much of the motivation for multi-core processors comes from greatly diminished gains in processor performance from increasing the operating frequency, thats also the reason why we need a multicultural society!
>>81273312
Thangs for de gold kind stranger :DDDD
>>81281449
Smart cuck, don't forget to keep coming back here for intellectual stimulation ;)
>>81285223
MGS3 was dumb fun. It also had great story elements, but you can feel everyone had fun writing/making it.
>>81296807
/pol/ does the exact same thing, except instead of being banned you will be called a shill or whatever and no one will dignify your opinion with a reasoned response because it's the "wrong" opinion
You really should shut the fuck up about "le Kojima tried to warn us" when you partake in the same type of echo chamber as the people you think have the wrong opinions
>>81273608
>mgs 5
a game he never wanted to make, pushed by konami
>silent hills
a game he wanted to make, cancelled by konami
>>81276264
>>81273608
>>81273312
I have cousin who weren't born at the time who know what this is. Hipsters are such posers.
>>81282532
Thanks for the suggestion leaf. Just downloaded witll read.
>>81297890
If you come in here with sauces and well thought out arguments you won't get called a shill. IF you just come in here and go Le hilary will lead us to prosperity or post the white house created jobs report and say look obama created jobs then leave yea you will get called a shill.
>>81297259
>Also Solidus is probobly Trump
wait until you get a load of Senator Armstrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWQd8zhEg4
>presidential candidate with an exuberantly confident straight talking strong man persona who uses the threat of muslim attackers to manipulate internet outrage into getting him elected so he can enact his isolationist self-sufficiency policies to cure all the liberal bullshit he hates about modern american culture and stop getting dragged into other countries wars and literally says he's going to "make america great again" by "expanding our memes on the internet"
this was released in 2013, meme magic son
>>81271092
By the year 2000, someone who thought long and hard about this would have been able to see it coming. The early stages were already there: the internet was having a content explosion, but little of it was meaningful.
>>81278032
You said it, and I accept it, and so you're wrong.
>>81271092
What's he trying to say?
That the internet hinders discussion by creating hugboxing?
>>81297890
While this certainly has merit
>>81298682
so does this.
Of course /pol/ is a right wing echo chamber. The redeeming factor is that people with right-wing (at least this kind of right-wing) opinions have already had to go through the steps of challenging held dogmas and beliefs by being exposed to facts never reported in the mainstream. Liberals and leftists have had everything parroted to them. CNN and Jon Stewart has already told them what to think and what to feel, and they've never had cause to back up these beliefs with facts. That's why when they come here all they're equipped with is one-liners and shaming tactics. They never needed anything else before.
>>81273608
Considering how dark the content was for Ground Zeroes, I wouldn't be surprised if Konami meddled and toned down the final product.
>>81298697
>They'll make america great again!
METAL GEAR SOLID WAS A WARNING, NOT AN INSTRUCTION MANUAL.
>>81297890
>>81296807
To a certain extent that's true. But when I make serious posts I usually get more serious posts fired back at me than just people calling me Jewish or whatever. I doubt you'd get that on that SRS reddit.
I also see others thoughtful posts about Islam, the history of Islamism get some decent responses other than 'GTFO reddit'.
There is definitely an echo chamber here though, mostly coming from die hard Trump supporters.
>>81273750
Look mom i'm being a big guy
>>81278032
define the "gates," then? what are you upset about getting banned for a day for posting ponies?
literally anyone can come here and talk shit. if the majority isn't like you it's because you lost on fair and even battleground.
>>81298697
shit like this makes me think we're living inside of a simulation
>>81299044
Among other things, yes.
>>81303112
Its called astroturfing you pansy-ass wilting daisy. Please try to deprogram yourself of the newspeak for fundamental forum sliding tactics that reddit's upboat system for mentally conditioning its users has indoctrinated into you.
Or lurk moar
>>81284169
first mgs2 demo was in 1998
>>81271092
>>written in the year 2000
your kidding? you can research this agenda going back to the early 1900s
>>81298029
Here dude, I photoshopped it so it's properly spelled.
Is 4chan memeing MGS into existence?
Who here actually finished MSG V?
>>81312103
The power of memes shapes reality
>>81312103
Can we?
>>81308133
don't expect /pol/ to know that, they get their politics from video games instead of actual books now the fucking idiots
/v/ cross posters are the highest form of kanker
I have a friend who bases his entire political ideology around Metal Gear.
He's a beta numale, queeb.
>>81273750
>cogent, concise, real info
wew lad
low quality bait
here's your (((you))), faggot
WOAAHOOOOO
>>81271320
The best is yet to come.
>>81278032
sure we are, that's why when the news posts about /pol/, our gated community keeps them out,
r-right?
>>81306535
The gate is the social stigma involved in posting on 4chan, a literal impediment.
>>81273750
Kys rebbit
>>81306541
why can't I find a cheat engine table yet
>>81284475
In my eyes the only real MGS games are 1-3. PW-V are some side story bullshit Kojima made because the fans and Konami pressured him into a series he had no passion for.
>>81280089
The hero we need, just not the one we deserve
>>81298697
So why did the fucboi kill him again?
>>81298697
>they'll make America great again!
>>81278779
>Try a couple decades earlier.
hope you're joking. the origins of the pc craze are firmly rooted in the pre-industrial american west. think buffalo bill and annie oakley.
I'm still really curious, why do people suppose that just because MGS4 and TPP were shit, that it means undeniably that the co writer for MGS1, 2, and 3, was single handedly responsible for them being """"written well"""? Nobody ever gibs evidence either when pressed.
>>81293945
>Actual serious discussion of the economic and political benefits of national socialism has done nothing but decline over the last few years on /pol/
I don't agree.
>>81314188
muh innocents deaths, Armstrong did a false flag on a US airbase to have war with Pakistan
>>81315464
kojima didn't have tomokazu fukushima (yes thats his real last name kek) helping him write is why
>>81315628
So you just infer that? Nobody actually has any evidence of who wrote what and just wants to call Kojimbles a hack as a sort of deflection mechanism for not liking the new Metal Gears?
