Why is the Illuminati so obsessed with Egyptian symbolism?
>>81125732
The Egyptians were from another galaxy, there was a program on their home planet that allowed a select number to populate a distant planet to further their dna across the universe.
White people have sort of the same story, this planet was widely known to be a great candidate for life, after the first race redirected a weapon to cause a "asteroid like effect" that would wipe all bacteria and life forms from earth. After some tume a base was constructed on the moon to monitor the "re-seeding" of the planet. The first people to arrive here were what we know as the african. Long story short the african leader mated with an Egyptian and the result was YAKUB, he was vengeful of his peers on the account of the constant teasing of his elongated skull. He was a genius that inderectly created a race so sadistic and cunning to rule the world over all others ie. White people.
>>81125732
Why are you so obsessed with the Illuminati?
>>81125732
Because they arent ?
Their symbol is owl, and thats pagan one.
Maybe Egypt is where it all started.
>>81127460
How was your race created?
>>81125732
The Egyptian religions were Luciferian. The Illuminati and Freemasons are also Luciferian.
The Roman Catholic church, Modern Judaism, and Islam are also Luciferian, though less blatant. They lack motifs like the all seeing eye but they make more prominent use of other symbols, like sun worship, moon worship, star worship, angel worship, six pointed star, Mary worship, and others.
It's all Luciferian and it's not hard to find the connection. I recommend Dr. Walter Veith's lectures on youtube. They are long, but they're the best out there. And there are a bunch of them. He does amazing research with first hand written and image sources.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ENZcAcLbk
>>81127141
I think he means the other ones Alexei.
> All seeing Eye / Eye of Horus
> Pyramids
> Stars
>CAPTCHA - Sphinx
>>81125732
They're not, conspiracy theorists are the ones who are obsessed with it.
>>81128041
Thats not illuminati anon.
>stars
almost every religion is obsessed with stars
>pyramids
There arent only Egyptian ones
>>81128444
If you don't do any research, you have no right to condemn those who do.
If you did even a little research, you'd be singing a different tune. It's rather absurd how much evidence there is—quotes, symbols, events, and predictions that come true to the letter.
But you've probably been trained to demean anyone and everyone as tin-foil hat so I'll leave it up to you. But I will say this: Of all conspiracy theories I've ever researched, Illuminati was the easiest to figure out. It's Luciferian, and they're in control. You can call me a nutter, I don't mind, because I know the only reason anyone would call "illuminati xD" a conspiracy theory is because they haven't done research. The preponderance of evidence is self-evident.
And they're not even the worst of all secret clubs. Jesuits are far more sinister, and you've probably never even heard of them. Go ahead, look em up, you won't be disappointed.
>>81127873
>>81129647
Yahweh is the real enemy.
>>81125732
They're trying to harness the power of the black man.
>>81128445
A pyramid is just an easy eay to build a large structure with shitty technology.
>>81132727
You think God is the enemy?
>>81127460
WUZ
>>81132962
Yahweh is their god, not mine. The real gods are far older and have been by our side since the antediluvian times. Odin, Apollo, Vishnu, Lucifer. It's the different names of the real god. Not the ursurper, the vengeful Jehovah of the abrahamites.
There is power in a kangz blood
>>81133154
ALEINZ
>>81125732
Triangles accurately describe the state of Human affairs.
You must be new here.
Pyramids are cool
>>81127873
Thanks for the video anon
>>81125732
Cultural apropriation, some contanct blm stat.
The Egyptians were rather ignorant and thought they could take their earthly possessions with them to the afterlife by putting them in a "magical room" inside their pyramid.
>mfw tutenkarmen rocks up to meet his maker without his gold leafed ivory hand mirror and matching accessories.
Ego, they choose symbols that represent omniscience, boundless intelligence, etc. They're full of themselves, just like the Egyptians.
>>81133246
>Lucifer
Say what you want about the Vatican et al being a nest of evil, but you worship Lucifer and you're not even trying to hide it.
>>81125732
I'm closer to the Golden Dawn
Immersed in Crowley's uniform
Of imagery
I'm living in a silent film
Portraying Himmler's sacred realm
Of dream reality
>>81133246
Any sources on that? I do not want to end up luceferian without a good reason
>>81136261
They are all just names.
I believe an absolute God wouldn't give a fuck if you read the wrong book and misunderstood his name.
Everyone has a moral compass for a reason. Some are just less willing to use it.
>>81128445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9lTB0hTNU
they are all linked
>>81137595
Tell you what, if I even had a vague understanding of the name "Lucifer" then I'd chose a different name in trying to use my moral compass in finding God.
they know it's real
>>81137943
implying he chose the name, and not the people writing about it
>>81138049
>>81138152
I didn't chose any of the words I'm using right now. But we both still mainly know what they all mean and even use them in sentences and paragraphs.
What does Lucifer mean to you?
>>81138287
the light bringer? the morning star?
what about you?
Being the dumb animals we pretend were not, we love to find meaning in patterns.
Everything is a conspiracy if you try hard enough.
>>81126836
>>81128041
Babylon.
> All seeing Eye / Eye of Horus
Babylon
> Pyramids
Babylon
> Stars
Babylon
>CAPTCHA - Sphinx
Babylon
Too lazy to explain all
There's nothing illuminati there.
>>81138418
The archangel who got buttmad he wasn't God and mounted a rebellion until God had to cast him out of Heaven so he could have his own fallen Kingdom on Earth. And then Lucifer and his followers thought he'd won.
Now, the bringer of light bears interesting parallels to astrological worship. I think it's fantastically interesting, but the basic notion of Lucifer as some proximal equivalent of evil is obvious within Christianity.
>>81138845
and yet god kills a ton of people in the bible, and lucifer kills less than 10?
wasn't it lucifer who convinced us to eat of the tree of knowledge? god wanted us to be ignorant
>interesting parallels to astrological worship
there are many, e.g. god as a bull during the age of taurus, as a lamb during the age of aries, and as a fish(ictheos) during the age of pisces
really combogolates the neurotypes, huh?
What about kek?
Is he another incarnation of that evil god or some other entity?
>>81125732
Read Manly P Hall book about philosophical doctrines.
Ancient Mysteries
Initiation
Rebirth
Solar aspect
Symbol
Secret societies
Forget all you know about ordinary religion, if you can.
>>81139199
>really combogolates the neurotypes, huh?
neat word m8, I actually met a possible Shakespeare relation
It could be. But just because God judged people and Lucifer was only able to poison their minds is all the more reason for me to not try to conflate the ideas and chose some word other than Lucifer.
>>81132853
Already have lol
>>81139643
surely killing people is the ultimate evil, and lucifer did hardly any, whereas god killed everyone but for noah and his family, at one point
an omniscient, omnipotent being has no recourse other than to mass murder?
I think lucifer is the prometheus figure in christian mythology
gave us knowledge, and is punished forever for it
have you read the sumerian tales? the book of enki?
weird how the bible in hebrew uses the word elohim for god, when that is plural, and the singular is el
>>81139584
I read a few of his, not sure I am any the wiser though
secret teachings of the ages was interesting, but inconclusive
>>81139549
Another Egyptian scarecrow.
Although lately meme magic was putting some effort and attention into him, so frim religious aspect we can call him a demon/fallen angel (Lucifer promised that everyone who will join him will become a god, so this fallen angels were hanging out as false gods that people have created for themselfs).
>>81133516
N SHEEEIIIIIT
>>81140231
is-isis
ra-god
el another god
israel?
>>81140231
I have not read those, and I'm increasingly convinced over time that what has been written is even more allegorical than I originally suspected.
But even if you want to try to play it like game theory, then it's obvious that God gave us knowledge and that there's some kind of a difference between God and Lucifer such that you would chose God over Lucifer.
>>81127873
Luciferianism is the worship of self as god. I.e self responsibility no magickal sky beings. Possibly no magick outside of cunning and trickery.
Masonry/Jesuits require belief in either JHVH or a form of supreme being. If they worship some manifestation of Lucifer they are not luciferian. That would be Satanist faggots who are on a par with God faggots.
Using the Bible as a source for why God is good is a bit silly, isn't it? It's his book, of course he's the hero.
>>81140231
It's to have a base on the topic.
Egyptians were looked by greeks as the oldest civilization. Although archeologically incorrect, it was a central belief back in the day and took people to look for a true doctrine and divinity on the egyptian mysteries. Like Hermes.
And so it built a tradition around egyptian religion.
Egyptian religion also had a more spiritual vision as opppsed to a more materialistic in mesopotamia.
>>81140739
It's pretty obvious that if god exists he isn't worthy of worship and if he was worthy he wouldn't want your worship anyway
>>81140342
OOOHHHH SHIIIIEEEET
>>81125732
they had magic
>>81140998
if God is not your hero he is your enemy
>>81141077
What drives you to that conclusion?
I come to the opposite: that he is the only one worthy (remember Moses?) and that he wants all the best for me including my worship.
Their symbolism.
My skin color.
Your flag design.
Our DNA.
This username.
A website.
The internet.
Nouns.
Verbs.
Adjectives.
Numbers.
Patterns.
>>81141318
A mass murderer is not worthy of my worship
>>81141317
God seems to be the enemy to most people going by his own book.
>>81125732
This is a Kek thread now, praise Kek!
>>81125732
lack of creative spark
>>81141614
Where is this mass murderer meme coming from? God made life in the first place. All life has an end. And when you get to that end, you get judged for what you did with the life you were given.
That's not murder.
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>>81125732
what illuminati? they haven't been around since the 1800s. They are a defunct group.
>people actually think adam weishaupt would have rubbed shoulders with nigger rappers and british royalty
illuminati was a good organization that believed in virtue, human rights and shit. It boggles my mind that people saw them as a sinister group.
>>81140342
But the hyekos were ancient Jews. That the Egyptians expelled from Egypt. Why would the jews make there name from isis and rah
>>81141318
Because if he wants worship he is not worthy of it, a worthy god would be humble, a worthy god would not get butthurt when his creations don't do what he wants and kill them all, although it makes sense since he didn't want us to have free will that was just naughty evil lucifer giving us freedom
>>81141842
see my picture.
>different group same name
>>81140342
heh, you ask, but you tell
another good one is kahn-i-baal
>>81140739
>I have not read those
I can't confirm that they are true, but they are certainly a good read, and pretty interesting
if true, they knew about ice giants 7,000 year ago, when we only distinguished them from gas giants in 1997 or so
the bible was written by kikes, wouldn't they want us to believe the opposite of what is true?
>>81140759
>either JHVH or a form of supreme being
I heard they call their deity either the supremem architect, or jahbulon
>>81141061
>Egyptian religion also had a more spiritual vision as opppsed to a more materialistic in mesopotamia.
perhaps, but not necessarily true
strange how the egyptians talked about the silver and golden gates, and they have them in san fancisco
have you watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L777RhL_Fz4
pretty mindblowing, the alignments, monuments and encodings from ancient times cropping up in the more modern
>>81141077
kind of plausible, but even if we were only created as slaves, we wouldn't be here otherwise, and at some point we were freed. even if some groups are trying to re-enslave us
from a strictly scientific stanpoint, how do you explain the other great apes having 24 chromosome pairs, but humans only having 23(of which no 2 is fused, with central telomeres)? how did the same mutation happen simultaneously in a male and female at the same time?
why would a god want your worship anyway? maybe gratitude, or comitment to knowledge or family
why would a god be vain?
>>81141318
>remember Moses
what's your point?
>>81141783
praise him
>>81141926
I don't know why somebody with think God wants worship. He's omniscient and omnipotent. What the hell does he have anything to get out of some silly human's worship?
God gave us the freedom to choose what to do. I guess we've made different choices. I find yours to be predominantly ignorant and illogical so far.
>>81129647
illuminati is a meme, masonic type beliefs (kabalism) dominate the real elite of the earth but some sort of religious council ruling the world is not true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
this is also worth a watch
why the fuck do we have 98% JUNK dna?
>>81141984
Wow that really makes me think..
I'm a Christian but thinking of converting to Odinism. What's it like?
>>81125732
>Cairo’s official name is al-Qāhirah, which means literally: “Place or Camp of Mars
>>81142173
He didn't give us freedom its literally in his own damn book, the snake did and god cast us out for it then starts asserting his dominance on us anyway, it's like what the fuck cunt its like your parents kicking you out of home then telling you how to live anyway
>>81142081
>if true, they knew about ice giants 7,000 year ago, when we only distinguished them from gas giants in 1997 or so
I've heard tales from people who have seen and studied a lot more than I have that there is abundant evidence ancient aliums style technology all over the world. One of them even expressed surprise that the Vatican didn't seem to have obtained evidence of its own in the form of bits of art they keep around until around the time ancient mystery stuff had a resurgence in Europe in the 1450s or so. Alas it's not anywhere near the top of my list of things I think would be most effective for me to study.
>>remember Moses
>what's your point?
The 10 commandments. One of them is that there is only one God. And so there was a pretty big problem when Moses came back down from the mountain and found his followers worshiping a frickin golden cow.
>>81142081
Thanks, I'll watch it.
Yes. The architecture is symbolic. Washington DC too has a masonic planning and design.
The pyramids and the Sphynx too. Location, shape, etc have an esoteric meaning, beyond their ingenious design. All the major cities in the world were initiation mysteries and secret societies played a role have this aspect.
Those things made me question the real functioning of society a lot.
>>81142730
Sure he gave us freedom. How else did we have the freedom to defy his instruction to not eat of the tree of knowledge?
Our mistake, our suffering. Who knows? Maybe it was for the best in the end -- like your analogy of growing up and getting kicked out of the nest so you can learn to live for yourself.
>>81141836
but god forced an artificial ending upon millions in the world at once.
Murder
>>81142976
It was a tree of knowledge, the knowledge was our freedom, so if adam and eve lacked the capacity to understand right and wrong since they had not yet eaten from the tree then it's bullshit that god then gets butthurt, he basically acts like a spoiled child throughout and judges unfairly
>>81143526
Which incident are you referring to?
>>81142505
are there any ice giants?
>>81142778
>>what's your point?
>The 10 commandments.
those come from the hammarabi code, which predates judaism
fun fact, satan is a corruption of satanma, a village and tribe in india, who were the jews enemies
the cow is symbolic, they were in teh astrological age(each age lasts ~2150 years, as the sun rises in that zodiac constellation, before the procession of the equinoxes changes to the next zodiac), as was the lamb of god=aries, and the fishermen = pisces
> it's not anywhere near the top of my list of things I think would be most effective for me to study.
how ill you know if you don't study it? try the first few chapters, it's a pretty good tale
the book of enki
yo sound christian, can you explain the verse in genesis which tells that "the sons of the gods mated with the daughters of man"? and who were the "nephelim"? those are biblical right? I thnk in genesis
>>81142931
>Washington DC too has a masonic planning and design
yes, new jerusalem street plan is in there, also rome, paris and a few other cities
>>81142976
gave us freedom, but no knowledge?
>>81143526
Do you deny God has the right to judge His creation?
>>81143657
How did God get butthurt? He said "don't do that or else" and then they did that so they got "else."
That's good parenting for disobedient children.
>>81143657
exactly, how do you kow what is wrong if the only way to know is to eat the fruit?
>>81143747
You indeed have no knowledge.
>>81136261
Hiding it is better?
>>81143796
>Do you deny God has the right to judge His creation?
if he is omniscient, then no, because that would imply that he knew how it was going to turn out, and it was he who made the mistake, and therefore has the blame
It all comes back to this.
>>81141685
Correct.
>>81143842
thanks bro
we only have knowledge because the serpent convinced eve to eat the apple, and she convinced adam
god didn't want us to have it
now what? homo
>>81143810
Yeah except children have the mental capacity to understand right and wrong because of the tree of knowledge, its more like putting a pile of meat on the floor and telling your dog not to eat it since the implication is that humans would've been no different than any other animal without eating from the tree
>>81143747
>the sons of the gods mated with the daughters of man
>nephelim
Outside of my studies, but whatever the exact meaning is the nephilim are bad dudes (fallen angels?) who turned on God and corrupted his creation. So he had to do some purging.
>gave us freedom, but no knowledge?
It's kind of an empty question if you believe that God is the source of everything anyway, but I'd say he put the knowledge there for us to find if we wanted it. I'd go so far as to say he even expected we would go find it.
>>81143952
What mistake do you place on God's lap?
>>81126836
tricknology ftw yo lol
>>81144103
Now you learn that we were not built to live by the knowledge of good and evil, but in a cooperative and dependent relationship with a loving God.
>>81144035
>>81143842
who were the nephelim?
why did the sons of the gods mate with teh daughters of men?
>>81142156
As above - so below.
because when was building the pyramid, it was tough as a mutha, and we had sound and a blanket. and that is what they trippin on.
>>81144203
I don't know if that's an accurate interpretation or not. It's been a really long time since I browsed through Genesis. But my recollection is that it took a snake to bait Eve into eating the fruit, and Adam joined in reluctantly.
That's a little different from feeding a dog.
Fun fact: it turns out that most state laws here have drug laws with the wording "man and other animals" and that this wording was successfully used once to get out of some ridiculous government prosecution about colloidal silver on the grounds that according to Christianity a "man" is not an "animal" and so this law was a violation of religious expression.
>>81144352
The nephilim were hybrids of angels who took the form of men and human women; they were giants, men of great renown. Stories like Heracles come from these abominations.
Satan had a plan to genetically alter humanity's DNA so that no kinsman redeemer could exist. If successful, humanity would have been completely hybridized and completely damned.
Noah and his family were the last pure human DNA beings on the planet; everything else was killed in the Flood.
>>81144204
Nephilims are angel+human breeds (giantess fetish intensifies). They where just aggressive giants.
>>81144035
What does this Saturn thing mean?
>>81144035
maybe, but why?
>>81144204
>the nephilim are bad dudes (fallen angels?)
so some kind of supernatural thing?
what about the nifelheim of norse mythology? just a cohencidence?
>he put the knowledge there for us to find if we wanted it. I'd go so far as to say he even expected we would go find it.
but told us not to, and cast us out when we took it?
>>81144215
if gods creation sins, then god has responsibility
>>81144294
I can't divine any meaning from that statement
if we did something wrong, then god is to blame for making us wrong, since he can tell the future
>>81144434
3 in 1, 5 to 6, bla de bla de, open to interpretation, or maybe bullshit. who knows?
got an explanation?
>>81132919
>A pyramid is just an easy way to build a large structure with shitty technology.
this,
why are people obsessed with pyramids?
>>81144203
You make Adam and Eve insipid to promote your own worldview. They were perfect human beings, completely able to understand the difference between believing God and disbelieving God, between obeying God and obeying the serpent.
God told them exactly what would happen, but they sinned anyways.
Just like you do.
>>81125732
Nimrod, in the Bible.
Globalism 1.0
>>81144735
can you back that up?
>>81144796
pic
because they(mexican, chinese, egyptian) are all on the same great circle
http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/index.html
>>81144761
Your theology is insane; no wonder you don't love God.
God did not create sin; God does not tempt people to sin; God is not the author of sin; God never sins Himself.
Sin is contrary to God's nature as matter is contrary to anti-matter.
You have the knowledge of good and evil. Have you always done only good? Or have you also failed to do some good? Or have you actually done anything that was not good?
By your knowledge of good and evil, the devil said you would be like God.
Are you like God? Can you create a universe? Can you raise the dead?
>>81144908
but they didn't know the difference between good and evil? until they ate the fruit they weren't supposed to
>>81144761
>>the nephilim are bad dudes (fallen angels?)
>so some kind of supernatural thing?
>what about the nifelheim of norse mythology? >just a cohencidence?
Beats me. But when you get this many coincidences then you have to think there's a deeper explanation. I mean how the fuck do you get Washington DC, Balimore, Boston, and I forget which other one all precisely lined up, and then if you follow that line you wind up in stone henge? I don't know what ley lines are all about, but that's one hell of a coincidence.
>but told us not to, and cast us out when we took it?
Like I said, good parenting in my opinion. Who knows how things would have gone if we had obeyed? But we're temporal and can't go back and change things; all we can do is try to learn from the past and do better in the future.
>>81145133
>theology
the science of religion?
have you read the old testament inthe original hebrew? if not, how can you know if the translation is correct?
>>81145041
The truth never needs anything to back it up.
There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Genesis 6:9 [ Noah Pleases God ] This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God.
Genesis 6:13 [ The Ark Prepared ] And God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
>>81145149
You're saying they did not know the difference between believing and obeying God, or disbelieving and disobeying God.
You're saying that with zero foundation in anything but your own opinion.
Eve was deceived by the devil; Adam was not. He knew exactly what he was doing.
>>81145333
>Genesis
>believing the ultimate jew blue pill
>>81145325
Because when the Hebrew matters, I have a go-to-Jew for answering my questions.
>>81145494
Posting on Chilean pottery board instead of building wall.
>>81145041
Nice one, I made mine a while ago
>>81145621
the wall is actually a very good thing for our economy, drug prices will rise at least 3x
cia wants this, they will pay & they can hire mexican to do it, i see nothing wrong
>>81145133
how do you explain this?
>>81145133
>You have the knowledge of good and evil. Have you always done only good?
>sin
Kek.
Good and evil are relative concepts.
Let's say there are two businessmans, and each one of them owns a soap making company. Now let's say businessman A a killer to eliminate businessman B. For A it's a good thing abd for B it's bad. For the killer it's a good thing too. For the workers of As company and their family it's a good thing. What if B was hurting some people, that gives A more good points, so there are no entirely bad, or entirely good things. Everything you do have it's bad and good sides.
>>81144035
>>81144316
Now please explain me this Saturn bullshit
>>81146517
Unfortunately, no one can be told what Saturn is. You have to see it for yourself.
>>81145265
>I mean how the fuck do you get Washington DC, Balimore, Boston, and I forget which other one all precisely lined up, and then if you follow that line you wind up in stone henge?
exactly, especially when you coupleit with karl munck's code of geolocation, and the phi ratios in the great circle alignments
>Who knows how things would have gone if we had obeyed? But we're temporal and can't go back and change things; all we can do is try to learn from the past and do better in the future.
sounds more like an allegory, or even disinfo, to my skeptic mind
>>81145333
giants were men? or half-gods?
the sons of god? the sons of the GODS?
since the hewbrew OT uses elohim(plural) not el(singular), yet the english version uses the singular, most confusing, but the source must be correct, not the translation
>>81145458
>He knew exactly what he was doing.
and god knew when he created them what they would do, any flaw in man was put there by god
>>81145651
it's freaky as fuck bro, do you use any geo programs to do that? looking to make my own
>>81146287
exactly
>>81146517
it's a planet that's a cube, and all cubes, that's why jews wear the tefelin cubes, and slimes worship a big black cube, and christians worship the 6^6^6, six sides, faces and corners
This thread is some serious >>>/x/ bullshit
>>81146901
>sounds more like an allegory, or even disinfo, to my skeptic mind
I'm a big fan of skepticism. But just to close the circle, my original contention was merely that Lucifer is not God. It seems to me we agree on that much.
In the meanwhile, it's taken me my entire life so far to reach the conclusions that I now hold. I'm willing to be wrong, and I believe I'll really only have a chance of finding out if I screwed it all up or not when I die.
>>81125732
So they could use Blacks to riot.
>>81137206
lucifer is a false god, he's a seducer, cages you in the triangle of intellect and opens you up for the whispers of older and darker gods. it's not worth it
>>81146901
You can do it with google maps. Also distance between sites follow the golden number. I'll try to look for an english source for that.
meanwhile, you can check the golden ratio in the pyramid of Gizeh
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observation_math%C3%A9matique_de_la_pyramide_de_Kh%C3%A9ops
(article is in French but math are universal =
is this some form of communication?)
>>81125732
The Queen of England traces her lineage back to Ramses II...
>>81147046
we're not discussing our own beliefs, but the beliefs of those in control. if you study this bullshit, it gives deeper, broader insight into the specifics of their agenda. true story
>>81145458
>Eve was deceived by the devil; Adam was not. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Adam sacrificed him self and we died ,the son of god sacrificed him self and now we live it is like pottery
>>81147358
But your conclusions are based on what? Any information presented to you has been passed down by centuries of propaganda and selective information being passed down. If satan was the true god or maybe one of many and was overthrown and then the current god took his place and manipulated people to have history in his favour how would you ever know?
>>81147702
I view math as a language. I'm not sure if our common system of math is the right one or not, but it's a very effective one; similar to how Newton finally compiled a system of physics that remains an effective model of the world even if it's not sufficient to explain quantum physics.
But insofar as a language becomes a correct model of reality, such as math as we know it, I would very much call it a universal language.
>>81147856
She can? Although I suspect most Caucasians are related to him, I don't know how an Egyptian pharaoh is related to a German Duke to our Queen though.
>>81146138
Bravo god his word has been preached all over the world
>>81147911
>But your conclusions are based on what?
Proof by contradiction is my personal favorite. I cornered myself roughly into where I'm at, and then used intuition and personal experience to make my best guess about the available options. Make no mistake: this is necessary when you can prove something to be a paradox.
It might turn out that one of my proofs is actually flawed. But all I can do is take proofs and axioms on assumption until such time as I come across the opportunity to contradict them.
>>81147879
Poetry, yes.
>>81147911
You know your father is satan; you know his voice, and you love his lies.
I know my father is God; I know His voice, and I love Him dearly.
And I used to be like you.
A lot of this goes back to the 19th century - Egypt was very hot and trendy for a while due to archaeology etc. It was the mysterious foreign ancient knowledge meme at the time.
>>81148019
Bullshit.
You can find math proofs to show that the sum of every positive integer from 1 to infinity, inclusive, is equal to -1/12.
Seriously not kidding.
>>81146138
It's a lie.
>>81146287
Not to God they are not.
God is good, and nobody else is. You are evil, and relish evil. So when good judges evil, and puts it down like a rabid dog, you're going to experience 2500 degree C for ever and ever, amen.
>>81148583
Math can also prove things to be impossible to prove. It's 101 level analysis.
That doesn't stop it from being a highly effective model of reality, and of extreme value to retain in our persuit of learning. It's an utter tragedy to see math dropped from required cirricula.
When I watch a squirrel or a bird or anything else not capable of language as we know it, it's obvious that they know calculus and physics. A human society with no proper language to discuss and manipulate these concepts is functionally illiterate.
>>81148783
>God is good, and nobody else is.
In the exoteric religion taught to the plebeians, yes.
In the trascendent understanding for a initiate, there's no such a thing. God isn't good or bad. In fact God in the abrahamic sense doesn't exist. Is something that is beyond moralish concepts.
>>81148472
I don't believe in god at all that's why I'm not clouded by bias and can see the flaws in scripture
>>81129647
Go on then, post your irrefutable evidence of a satanic one world order.
>>81147702
I like this doco on it
https://youtu.be/eVwaftPSRd0?t=4246
and this
http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/easter2.html
I think it IS somekind of communication, although I think it was an old civilization sending a message to us in the future
>>81147879
and kikes sacrifice part of their cock, it makes so much sense
>>81148298
>his word has been preached all over the world
yet there are areas he does not control?
hmmmmmm
anyway, you haven't refuted the tiny world of the bible and other related scripture
>>81148472
care to make sense?
or does that count as sense in you're world?
>>81148673
religion?
if not, where is america, antarctica, or even europe mentioned in the bible?
>>81148783
>You are evil
I don't believe you, how dare you?
don't you admit that babies, and uncontacted tribes can not be evil without having been given the gospel? THEN they are evil, what kind of cunt gives them this info that turns them from innocent to evil?
>>81148967
>it's obvious that they know calculus and physics
kek
so many times I've watched a squirrel with a blackboard and chalk trying to prove descartes
>>81149464
>so many times I've watched a squirrel with a blackboard and chalk trying to prove descartes
Well, if you want do do philosophy 101, what we can safely conclude is that a bat, and only a bat, really does know what it's like to be a bat.
But if you watch them move and jump around, they have an intrinsic and really very acrobatic understanding of motion that it took us thousands of years to develop a linguistic model to predict accurately.
Descartes also had a system of physics he came up with, but it failed to model things as simple as momentum. Great thinker, amirite? I think I was about six years old or something when I came up on my own with that I must exist because I can think.
>>81149464
>anyway, you haven't refuted the tiny world of the bible and other related scripture
actualy in the book of acts paul the roman travels to rome your little circle is shit
>>81149810
>I came up on my own with that I must exist because I can think.
some people think that they don't exist?
bats know batting? ok, I won't argue, unless they are just animals and don't know shit, just instincts
>>81150049
ok, I'll allow that, can you quote the pssage?
so we have one event out of the circle, do we have any in antarctica, or america? or chiyna?
>>81149810
did you know that newton was an initiate in the mystery schools?
an alchemist also, apparantly
and a head of the priore du sion, if the leaked list is to be believed
>>81125732
The Illuminati started in Egypt.
>>81145651
looks like a sine wave
>>81150404
>bats
It's a standard philo 101 essay
http://organizations.utep.edu/portals/1475/nagel_bat.pdf
>>81150542
Yah, Newton even compiled a bunch of stuff about alchemy. And what's crazy is that now we have nuclear physics and we literally transmute elements on the regular. Whoever invented reality is way smarter than we are.
>>81148783
Good and evil are always together, so when he did something good to someone he at the same time did something bad to another person. Every action has a reaction and every good has a evil in it.
>you're going to experience 2500 degree C for ever and ever
Wouldn't that mean that after some time I'll just get used to it. Although at that temperature my body will melt in a second and wouldn't have time to regenerate. How would I even fill it? Chinese hell sounds cooler at least.
Btw, can you guys tell me more about Saturn? /x/ is filled with le epic trolls from b.
>>81148259
Royalty has interbred for most of human history, so it's not surprising.
What's interesting to note is that most Pharaohs called themselves gods.
Most famous people are actually part of a bloodline called the Merovingian Bloodline, both Trump and Hillary are in this bloodline. Every President and most Monarchs are somehow related in this way.
And not in the relative "1/10 people in Asia are related to Genghis Khan" I'm talking a direct lineage straight to these people. It sounds very /x/ I know, but you should research this more.
>pic related is when you realize people in charge consider themselves descendants of god and the sun
>>81150404
>so we have one event out of the circle, do we have any in antarctica, or america? or chiyna?
the flood where everyone drowned? big time event
Paul Arrives at Rome
Acts 28:11
11And after three months we departed in a ship of Alexandria, which had wintered in the isle, whose sign was Castor and Pollux. 12And landing at Syracuse, we tarried there three days. 13And from thence we fetched a compass, and came to Rhegium: and after one day the south wind blew, and we came the next day to Puteoli: 14Where we found brethren, and were desired to tarry with them seven days: and so we went toward Rome. 15And from thence, when the brethren heard of us, they came to meet us as far as Appii forum, and The three taverns: whom when Paul saw, he thanked God, and took courage.
16And when we came to Rome, the centurion delivered the prisoners to the captain of the guard: but Paul was suffered to dwell by himself with a soldier that kept him.
>>81150974
I apologize for my ugly mistakes, btw.
Gotta type fast
>>81150916
it is, with amplitude pi
>>81150921
>It's a standard philo 101 essay
aah, philosophy, answering the important questions
I wish I could find a phiolosopher to hire, I needed some thinking doing, but the ones in the yellow pages were all charging ridiculous callouts
if only there were more philosophers, I wouldn't have to attempt to think for myself
>Whoever invented reality is way smarter than we are.
I agree with that. probably a simulation
>>81151100
ok
except we don't know if it was worldwide, or just to the limits of those who wrote about it
I'll grant you rome, but not anywhere else outside of the circle
>>81151456
nothing personell, kid
saturns number is 1720
watch the vids posted in this thread
>>81150921
>Whoever invented reality is way smarter than we are.
is reality just layers of intelligence/consciousness? do you think we can break out of this architected world or are we just creating the next layer of reality?
>>81125732
They're not, because they don't exist.
>>81125732
Orgin of the ancient mystery schools, duh.
>>81127873
The Catholic Church is not illuminist.
Freemasonry hates it
>>81151456
and probably lots of vids giving some insight with a lot of bullshit if you search YT for saturn cube
>>81151746
>except we don't know if it was worldwide,
we dont know anything from the bible to be as fact but your picture got btfo
>>81151830
I believe there's much, much more to reality than we perceive in our day to day ordinary level of awareness.
I believe we have do have largely untapped power to create reality. This is scientifically supported, although a lot of it is not public.
Furthermore, I believe we will be breaking out to some next layer whether we want to or not. And I believe that faith in God is the best way bar none to keep an even keel as we are thrust into the unknown.
>>81151746
what's the point in creating huge pyramids around the world in representation of a sine wave? passing the torch or knowledge? how the fuck do you make multiple cultures do this?
>>81151945
well, every power harvesting organisation hates everyone else doing this. i'm not backing his point, just a thought
there is a theory building up about how the chambers in the pyramids are built to make a very unique resonance.
this resonance produces a sound that can change your DNA and increase your awareness.
Some good videos on Egyptian religion, Osiris and Isis, the new world order and lucifer worship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7PHUG8Z_1A&list=PLsv2e1xiCPWsB0bLtfiRzd013f1Xq5l-K&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4tUd4lp65g&index=11&list=PLsv2e1xiCPWsB0bLtfiRzd013f1Xq5l-K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prkjY0ym8DA&list=PLsv2e1xiCPWsB0bLtfiRzd013f1Xq5l-K&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y9hW3G0ZX8&index=13&list=PLsv2e1xiCPWsB0bLtfiRzd013f1Xq5l-K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_SJjbet5pI&list=PLsv2e1xiCPWsB0bLtfiRzd013f1Xq5l-K&index=29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRReu_0d_1U&list=PLsv2e1xiCPWsB0bLtfiRzd013f1Xq5l-K&index=39
>>81152652
Judeo-Masonry's two biggest enemies has been Roman Catholicism and Royalty.
The United States was founded by the masons as the embodiment of their creed a nation where law and men are God.
The pyramid embodies the power of man.
If the pyramid is inverted, it represents the power of God. A triangle combined with an inverted triangle is the star of David.
The Star of David is Luciferian, because it puts man at the same level as God.
the nephilim is bullshit
its known that in past times there was people who were 3-4 meters tall. and amongst them were people who were even taller
>>81152330
I'm sure when many cultures across the world encountered a large scale local catastrophe they probably imagined it spread around the whole world, but just saying it and writing it down doesn't make it true without any other sources who are not local backing it up
>>81144761
This is the biggest Secret of Life, found inside the tomb of Hermes Trismegistus, author of Hermetic Corpus.
As Within, So Without,
As above, So below.
It can be interpreted in multiple ways, yet, the most suitable meaning would be:
As Within - What do we think within ourself
So Without - Will be expressed or reflected on the world we live.
As above - As in Heaven - (Your own mind)
So below - So on Earth - (In your body and environment)
If we think good, good will follow; if we think evil, evil will follow.
Whatever we are think or accept (consciously) will definitely be the circumstances of our life.
>>81151830
no, I don't think we can break out
but what the hell do I, or any of us, know
asking unanswerable questions, so human
>>81151945
>The Catholic Church is not illuminist.
you should research the pagan, satanic even, idols they have in their vaults...
they are pagan
look at the fish hat the poop uses as he worships nimrod
>>81152330
kek, I don't see any evidence that the people of the flood times knew the entire world, maybe the local area got flooded
how can we tell?
>>81152652
>what's the point in creating huge pyramids around the world in representation of a sine wave? passing the torch or knowledge? how the fuck do you make multiple cultures do this?
dunno, maybe they were just troling us, or maybe they worshipped pi and phi, or maybe they wanted to tell us that even though their culture was destroyed by asteroid impacts turning 2 mile thick ice sheets into 400m higher sea levels, they wanted us to remember them?
>>81153984
thanks, that's kind of plausible
what was hermes fullname? I thought it had 3parts
>>81153984
what about this
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/a/below_above.html
>>81154276
Hermes Trismegistus
>According to legend Hermes Trismegistus is said to have provided the wisdom of light in the ancient mysteries of Egypt. "He carried an emerald, upon which was recorded all of philosophy, and the caduceus, the symbol of mystical illumination. Hermes Trismegistus vanquished Typhon, the dragon of ignorance, and mental, moral and physical perversion."
>>81154394
The Emerald Tablet
The Kybalion
The Poemander
Are all good things to look into.
>>81152649
Theres definitely more than we can see with our limited human senses, even stuff as obvious as sounds and light wavelengths, we definitely do not have the capacity to create reality though, unless you mean just by physical actions, or though fantasy in our own minds.
>>81153230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3J2fGnbe_s&list=PL9PWYZxsiJdW5KnDT5v1fu7g7dIWT05m4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THWrzaF3bMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIrH-2HGDds
>>81148967
Let me try this again.
By math proofs, you can prove that the sum of all positive integers, 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +.....+infinity = -1/12.
Where is your god now?
>>81149210
The flaws are only your misunderstandings.
>>81155176
no you fucking can't the paper was a joke
>>81149464
Everyone deserves to go to hell.
You're choosing to, of your own free will.
>>81150974
No, they're not. Before creation, there was only Good; there was only God.
>>81125732
I don't know.
>>81155242
No, it is not.
Go look at the proofs.
-1/12
>>81154856
>we definitely do not have the capacity to create reality though
Bear in mind that we do not have a fully accurate model of how physics works or how our minds work. Far from it. Some of that even crosses paths on what I do for a living.
But, for instance, it is possible to change the crystalline structure of water molecules with thought. Prayer demonstrably alters the outcome of medical conditions. I believe there's even more to it than that, even if we might not really yet have a handle on how exactly it works.
If you want to take a subjective definition of reality, it's quite entirely possible to use existing technologies to control your own subconcious mind to change the ways in which you change reality. I think your claim is pretty close-minded for such an open-minded guy.
>>81155223
Ok maybe I am, or maybe I'm not how would you know you aren't misinterpreting actual flaws?
>>81145041
Because they were alligning them with stars
>>81155298
you can't prove hell exists
you can't prove god exists
hell, I bet you can't even prove that I exist
what kind of god would send you to hell for not believig he exists, without proof, and what kind of god would refuse to prove he existed knowing that he was going to send you to hell otherwise?
the whole thing is nonsense
what do you make of the story of doubting thomas? and "don't be a doubting thomas" they implore, yet the whole point of the doubting thoas story is that he doubted, but god appeared to him and proved himself real.
nowadays, we're told to just believe, it's bullshit
>>81155534
>Prayer demonstrably alters the outcome of medical conditions.
has god ever healed an amputee? in the last 100 years?
>>81155475
What would it matter whether you could or couldn't? Nobody claims modern math to be perfect, and we're funding a lot of brilliant minds to innovate further. It's just really hard to beat.
Kind of like I can get a stick, a knife, a string, and a weight, and use those to effectively build things. Sure even a measuring tape would be more advanced, to say nothing of lasers, levels, and squares, but it's still good enough for the intended use case.
>>81155360
is that in the christian sense or in all senses? What about non monotheistic religions?
>>81155624
all of them? were they different cultures that never met, and developed this idea independently, or were they connected?
>>81143657
>my child has never been burned.
>I tell her not to touch the hot stove.
>she has no knowledge of how painful burns are.
>she touches the stove, and gains knowledge of burn pain.
Was I a bad parent for forbidding her from touching the hot stove? Would it be a bad thing, if I prevent her from gaining burn knowledge?
>>81155475
riiight, the sum of some positive integers is negative
don't waste my time
>>81155789
I think you're setting an unrealistic, unknowable bar. Even if I could prove that the he hasn't, it wouldn't violate my claim.
>>81155534
I'm not closed minded I just spend too much time on /sci/ and there's pretty much a zero tolerance rule when it comes to pseudophysics.
My problem with your statement is that just because we haven't completely figured out physics I find it unlikely that we're 100% completely and totally wrong. Sure it's possible but it seems highly unlikely that the laws of thermodynamics would just be completely and utterly wrong which is what would be required for us to have any mental control over matter.
If you have a source for changing the structure of water I'd like to see that though as it sounds interesting.
>>81156103
you can't, because it has never happened
http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com/
>>81155242
http://www.numberphile.com/videos/analytical_continuation1.html
>>81133246
You just called Lucifer and Apollo gods, but demean Yahweh. That is some inverted shit, right there
>>81155596
Because after looking into thousands of so-called flaws, they all lie in favor of the word of God.
>>81155714
Thomas just wanted what everyone else had already received; visible evidence that Jesus really did come back from the dead. He wasn't there the first time Jesus showed up.
He didn't actually have to poke Jesus; once he saw Him alive, he fell to his knees and worshiped Him.
And Jesus said "You have seen me and believed; blessed are they who have not seen, and yet believe."
That's me.
>>81155904
You claimed math was reliable and without fault.
It is anything but.
>>81156223
It's work by the late Dr. Masaru Emoto, whose family passed on to Dr. Winn Parker to continue. There are other examples as well, but that's an easy one even though the autists at wikipedia of course decry it as pseudoscience [probably with citations] because it doesn't fit their existing models.
As a peer-reviewed published scientist, I can tell you firmly that scientists are prey to all the same social and emotional problems that any group of people are, and everything from the lab tech to the proposal reviewers for funding are guided by intuition and confirmation bias. I even go so far as to say that academia is clearly occult. But it's a good system anyway.
>>81155905
Religions are systems of bondage designed by men.
I'm talking about what God is, and what He did.
>>81155360
W-Well, ok...
Then where did he come from? What created that god? Everything have it's starting point. Did another god created him? Who created that god than? Is there some sort of infinite god matryoshka? Who created the first god? You can't just come out of nowhere.
>>81157032
I'm sorry if I worded something poorly. I don't make that claim in the slightest.
In fact I don't believe that man can ever create something perfect because we are imperfect beings; only God can.
>>81157082
>But it's a good system anyway.
It's evil.
>>81157210
God exists outside of space and time. There is no beginning or end. There is no where or nowhere.
>>81157210
He has always existed, and He will always exist, and you will meet Him, face to face.
>>81157132
In Egypt they had Osiris isis ra anubis etc
in Greece Zeus Athena Ares Dyonisus etc
and so on
Are those all man made too?
>>81143657
>>81155936
Who knows but this is something I always think
>God in old testament is asshole who demands animal sacrifice and has weird laws about food and cloth and other shit
>if you ask christians about this they say christ coming and dying is what made the old testament null
>so god was this huge asshole, then came to earth and used his unlimited power to show that a man can live without sin
>which is bogus as fuck, because this world pushes you to the fucking brink on a daily basis
>and then the humans came and kicked his ass, like hardcore style
>nail him too a tree
>just fuck his shit up senpai
>so then the New Testament gets written and God is like "OK OK i forgive you, just believe in me"
>And then when Jesus comes next time, he is supposed to come like a lion and not a lamb, thus he is going to fuck shit UUPPP
So did we teach Jesus that violence is the only way, while also giving him the ass kicking of a lifetime so that we dont have to jump through hoops to save our eternal souls?
And now he's coming back as a warlord to kick ass instead of this nice peaceful preacher
