Can someone redpill me on religion?
I have never practiced religion but I am becoming increasingly convinced that evil exists in this world in a non-physical form. I would like to learn more about religion and hopefully find something I can largely agree with but I don't know what's what. I'm sure you guys can save me a lot of time by immediately cutting through the BS and pointing me in right directions.
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I have tried to explain away as much as I can with science and reason but the parts I cannot have humbled me to the point where I am willing to admit that there might be something out there.
>>81116112
PRAISE THE GODS
>>81116185
>>81116112
Hard Polytheism or bust.
Kek is the god of meme magic and shitposts
>>81116444
Care to elaborate?
>>81116112
It's not something out there but someone and his name is Jesus Christ and he's waiting for you to open your heart and seek him out.
>>81116112
Evil is manifested physically in the world. It takes on the wretched form of the hook-nosed jew. Only KEK may cleanse the world of thus eternal evil.
Praise desu
>>81116521
Satan > Jesus
>>81116521
I'm willing to believe. I just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time with any frauds, etc. using Christ's name for their own gain.
I follow Olympianism, the national Greek religion. I still attend a few Greek Orthodox traditions, but I worship the indigenous Gods of Greece with elements of Hermeticism and Neoplatonism.
I think that's the way to go about it. Follow and subtly promote you native religion while complying to what is socially acceptable in your community.
>>81116112
>Can someone redpill me on religion?
Sure.
Here's the ultimate thing to know: there is no functional difference between religions and ideologies from a societal or linguistic perspective. That is to say that 'secular America' is more religious than ever, and have fallen prey to a simple bait-and-switch of words.
Instead of 'God', it's 'Equality'.
'Original sin' is now 'privilege'.
It has the same attempts to leech money from the government in order to morally indoctrinate youth and the same preachers now receiving tenure in universities for holding their classes.
If you're going to take away anything from my post let it be this: if you 'believe in equality' then you've fallen for a ruse, and will be fighting a losing battle in any argument you make, whether against a feminist, a socialist, or a globalist. Equality is a word that describes a pair of contradictory ideals, and is a prime example of 'doublethink'. Read Animal Farm if you want to learn more.
>>81116502
There are multiple gods and pretty much every single culture besides the jews acknowledged this before christianity, islam and communism went around destroying everyones native culture.
>>81116961
Which of these gods are the "right" ones? I'm familiar with a few polytheistic religions but they don't all seem to jive with one another.
>>81116112
All current religions stem off the same train of events almost 5000 years ago or so
Once upon a time, really advanced folks teached us primates the means of civilization, had some quarrels regarding how should we get treated, and promptly fucked off after leaving an everlasting impression
You can freely choose your brand of interpretation, however wrong they might really be
Protip: Avoid all forms of Abrahamic religions (except Orthodox Christianity, which pretty much stems off greek gnosticism)
Also, the more ancient a religion is, the better, just stick to the oldest and least altered branch
(All Proto-Indo-European based ones are the best, closely followed by Proto-Babylonic, non jewish myths)
>>81116112
Kek is the one true God. Meme master of the Universe. Emperor of happenings.
>>81116112
>I am becoming increasingly convinced that evil exists in this world in a non-physical form.
What convinces you?
>>81117586
>Once upon a time, really advanced folks teached us primates the means of civilization, had some quarrels regarding how should we get treated, and promptly fucked off after leaving an everlasting impression
t. Chimalli Aztecez
>>81117926
Oddly enough alleged cases of demonic possession. Most can be explained by mass hysteria or a mental illness but the few that cannot baffle me. And the supposed influence of religion to rid people of these possessions has fascinated me.
The one case that has impacted me the most profoundly has not spawned any books or movies or any story for profit.
Young boy became physically ill. Saw special after specialist and parents spent hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to make him better. In a last ditch effort to save their son, the parents tried religious intervention. Boy made a complete recovery and is a normal person. No drugs, nothing.
>>81118340
So instead of thinking placebo effect, you think supernatural? Do you see the fallacy?
>>81118340
then cite a specific case with links/names
>>81118839
>Do you see the fallacy?
I should have saved the 'tip' picture for you. There's no fallacy there. Only several alternate possibilities.
>>81118839
In that case, it was done without the boys knowledge. They didn't want him to know they were literally out of options. The Mayo Clinic, along with initial doctors they met, suspected meningitis but could not conclusively prove or treat it.
>>81116112
There is some truth in all religions, and there is some corruption.
Only through the guiding of our savior Christ can we find the truth.
>>81116112
>Can someone redpill me on religion?
Archeology indicates that religion is a precursor for civilization. Holy places (mountains, groves, shrines, etc.) were designated while people were still living as hunter gatherers. Agriculture was developed to help feed the religious classes who lived in those holy places to tend them. This then allowed the development of ever larger permanent settlements, which became the first villages and cities. Put simply, first comes the temple, then comes the city.
Religion provides a set of psychological tricks which allow large groups of people to live in peace and cooperate in complex large scale activities. Religions often explicitly invoke the language of kinship (ex. "we are all the children of God"). This reinforces prosocial behavior bu co-opting the instinctive impulses to cooperation and mutual affection which occur naturally in kin groups. Religions typically establish their God figure(s) as a source of natural familial authority (ex. the Sky Father or Earth Mother tropes) who constantly observe and judge human behavior and will punish the wicked. This encourages prosocial behavior at all levels of society. Studies show people behave better when under scrutiny, and people in positions of power tend to feel entitled and will abuse their power if there is no higher authority monitoring them.
The prosocial effect of these psychological tricks is why many people assume it is impossible to be moral without religion. Religion makes morality, i.e. prosocial behavior, instinctive and natural feeling.
>>81119131
The supernatural isnt s fallacy? Oh wew
>>81119122
The one case I'm referencing, like I said, has virtually no press.
But another that has perplexed me is the case of Anneliese Michel.
>>81117586
>No abrahmic religions
> oorthodox is ok.
So i can still keep Christ and have a relatively based religion?
Is it really that much different?
Im catholic but considering orthodox.
>>81119199
You just gave the definition of placebo effect.
>>81119416
This isnt a very good argument. Climate change, i e the holocene made it warmer, meaning more food, more people which caused the catsclyst that is the agricultural revolution.
Then what you write is plausable.
>>81117340
Most the European and Egyptian ones are different names for the same personifications, or might as well be.
For example Mercury, Hermes, Woden, Odin and Thoth are often seen interchangeable.
That's why you get historical documents where Romans are talking about Germanics holding Mercury in high regard despite being a warrior raiding culture, or saying that the Gauls descended from Pluto.
They do each have some Unique ones though.
In which way do you think they didn't jive together?
>>81119430
>The supernatural isnt s fallacy?
That's correct. It's easy to concoct all sorts of theoretical interpretations of reality which allow for the supernatural so there's nothing intrinsically fallacious about it. If you doubt that then look up the definition of 'fallacy'.
Once you finally pull your head out of your arse, lay off the hubris, and realise that the 'religious' 'nonreligious' paradigm is useless in a pragmatic sense, then you'll be able to appreciate where what's left of the Christians are coming from.
>>81119558
For the parents perhaps. But how would the boy know?
Evil exists in minds, in ideas, in behaviour.
Religion is an excellent way to turn complicated abstract concepts that people like you and me can understand, in to simple things for dumb peasants to understand.
That way we can encourage them not to be evil.
Unfortunately, evil people can use a similar tactic to undermine the conditioning, and they've been very effective.
>>81119857
Who are these evil people and what do they do thats evil?
>>81119847
The boy is the subject, he isnt supposed to know
>>81120122
>Who are these evil people
The ones raping all the girls in your country, cuck.
>>81120122
Left-wingers, degenerates, Jew elites, etc.. They undermine the common man's confidence in moral norms codified by religion, and thus open up the path of evil where religion had closed it off.
Shinto
Tao
Bhuddism
Christianity
All the other shit
Rate my weebness.
>>81120291
They're not evil, straya. They are gods punishment, his second flood to cleanse us.
>>81120298
I bet they disagree with you. /pol/ is evil to them. Who is right?
>>81120432
>They are gods punishment, his second flood to cleanse us.
>They are evil.
>>81120552
I am right because I am me while they are just them.
>>81120552
Both.
>>81120552
>they disagree with you
By that logic I could beat you up, torture you, kill your family and friends, and not be evil, cause I disagree with you and I don't think I'm evil. You're honestly acting so relativistic that it comes across as self-loathing or even suicidal. Just what I'd expect from a member of Cuckden desu.
>>81120612
Master shitposter
>>81116112
God is real. and Mankind can defeat him.
>>81120831
Id think you evil, at least disturbed if you did that. But perhaps with the right motivation, youd think you were doing good in ridding the world from whatever evil you make up your mind i am
>>81120281
I don't think you quite understand the placebo effect. He had no idea what was wrong with him and no understanding of attempts to make things better aside from Western medicine.
To go from poor health and affliction to normalcy with no apparent catalyst is not the placebo effect. As far as he was concerned, they were still making efforts to diagnose his condition. He had no clue of a treatment, certainly not any involving a church. How could he explain his recovery?
His parents might ascribe it to that, sure, but from their story it was kept completely from him to not elicit any more anxiety or fear on his part. It's not like they were coaching him back to health.
I'm not religious, but we need religion. At least the cacholic religion, which is the basis for how we built our society. The bible stablishes country borders, patriotism, and Jesus was against political correctness and degeneracy. They stablished all of our traditional values. Leftists want to destroy the Catholic church at all costs, or at least they want it to bend to their will.
>>81121010
Please stop it. You're indistinguishable from a strong parody of Swede-cucks. It's starting to horrify me. I don't want to believe that Swedes are so utterly subverted and ruined.
>>81121185
The illness sounds psychological, thats all. It only required hocus pocus to heal, hence placebo effect. See from my point of view, you're retelling a bullshit story any how.
>>81119780
>the holocene made it warmer, meaning more food, more people which caused the catsclyst that is the agricultural revolution
This makes no sense. Why would the abundance of food spur the creation of new ways to cultivate food? Necessity is the mother of invention, not abundance. Warmer conditions would make hunting and gathering easier. It would not provide a causal mechanism for the development of stable food sources via agriculture.
Physiologically modern humans existed in warming periods 200,000 and 100,000 years prior to the holocene. Yet we have no evidence that those early humans were prompted to develop agriculture and large scale settlements by the warmth of those periods. Some other change had to occur at or near the onset of the holocene to explain this new social phenomena.
Archeological and anthropological evidence suggests that Religion provided a social incentive for people to settle in particular areas. It was the need to provide these settlements with reliable food sources which spurred the development of agriculture. Religion also provided a mechanism for rival tribes to set aside their natural competition and collaborate, which allowed the settlements to grow in scale and the earliest cities to form.
>>81121347
And you seem unable to view matters from different perspectives. Doesnt mean i accept you killing me, but i can understand motivation. Most people are well meaning, but also very naive
>>81121507
>from my point of view
You don't have a point of view. We've clearly established that. You wouldn't even stand up for yourself and call out evil in a blatantly clear theoretical scenario. You're so unerringly relativistic that your opinion is reduced to worthlessness.
>>81121507
Again, the boy had no understanding of the efforts. A patient must be aware of a treatment to undergo any sort of placebo effect.
Here's the interview:
http://www.astonishinglegends.com/portfolio/ep039-the-sludge-entity-part-1/
>>81121843
You can probably guess i disagree with you
>>81121329
And then we got something better, Protestantism. Rather local patriotism than kneeling to a funny hat.
>>81122292
Ye, bullshit story
>>81122432
>Protestantism
Gay shit.
Anglicanism is the best. Better funny hat, too.
>>81122595
Im glad you listened to it that quickly. Allow me to completely disregard you from this point on.
Enjoy your cultural enrichment. Unlike you, I'll at least have a choice in the matter.
>>81121737
I forgot to mention urbanism. Should explain my reasoning
>>81122740
The site name put me off
>>81122751
It really doesn't, because it offers no causal explanation for urbanism.
>>81116112
Protestant Christianity is closest to truth, denomination unimportant.
Man will fail you, put your trust in God and follow His word.
