He had created the perfect state, he had saved Germany from becoming a third world country, he created millions of jobs and introduced innovative Autobahn and other wonderful acts of infrastructure, but he had to ruin it all and declare war on every body, and also kill millions of people for no reason in death camps. He could have had it all. Why /pol/? Why?
because danzig was and is german clay
>>81105778
you be a cvck to one you become cvck to all, he only declared war on poland.
>>81105778
War was coming to Germany no matter what, the soviets would have come knocking eventually
>>81105870
Apparently all of poland is too
>>81105948
Elaborate
>>81106188
Poland had German land which had millions of Germans, if Germany allowed them to be exterminated then they allow other powers to believe they can do this to all of Germany.
>>81105778
Hitler traded nationalism for imperialism, that was his downfall.
Hitler marketed himself on nationalism, he was a good nationalist, and he threw it all away for "muh lebensraum". I honestly think Hitler deserved his defeat, his ambitions were far too large and internally contradictory to succeed.
>>81106657
You can't be nationalist when your enemies control the entire world, Hitler was more Anti-Imperialist and for dismantling powerful states.
>>81105778
'Lebensraum' fgts, it was always part of the plan to expand right from the start. Do you even 'Mein Kampf'?
>>81106657
Underrated post.
If he actually stopped at the Anschluss and the annexing the Sudentenland, Germany wouldn't have been fucked in the ass by the Western Allies. He would have had sympathy from the West when the USSR came knocking, hell, even support.
>>81105778
>Muh 6 million
>>81106657
His policy wasn't just based on nationalism, it was also based on revanchism. As far as lebensraum, Russia was going to declare war on him anyway.
The failure of the third reich wasn't because of it's goals or ambition. It was because of failures implementing them.
As I said, war with Russia was inevitable. And once Britain refused to cave after the fall of France, it was only a matter of time before the USA intervened. Japan or no Japan.
>>81105778
PAYING DENBTS WASN'T PART OF HIS PLAN. YOU DON'T GET TO EXPEL THE JEWRY WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.
>>81107369
>muh holocaust didnt real
Tell me how it wasnt
>>81107873
IT WASN'T REAL IN MY MIND
>>81107951
????
>>81105999
Poland isn't a real country.
>>81108214
lol coming from Australia, of all places
nice shitpost, m9
>>81106982
the soviets were only going to get stronger as the years went by, to the point that they would easily be able to dominate europe and spread communism across the globe. there was a temporary weakness and hitler took it, actually that dynamic between russia and germany is what the entire situation was about, nazism, communisms, anschlusses and red revolutions all
>people still believe that He had anything to say wether is going to be war or not
>people still don't know that you don't say "no" to world bank and get away from it
>people still don't know that He was whiny insecure batshit crazy idiot with small dick that wanted to play in big league and to separate his whole country from world's monetary system and banking
>>81105778
>and also kill millions of people for no reason in death camps
Good goy, holohoax was bad mkayy
Well Hitler never declared war against everyone, everyone declared war on him when he attacked Poland (big difference).
Their economy was focused on rearmament literally needed territorial expansion. It's only the employment statistics that make their economy look good, iirc they were rationing certain goods before the war had even begun.
>>81108407
>>81108633
>>81107951
>>81107873
>>81107369
>>81105778
>tfw you tried creating a thread with >muh six million and other memes to try to bait people into dumping redpill material but they aren't getting the point
>>81108933
i did redpill you you fucking underage stormcunt
go read a book
>>81105778
The globalists (jews) were after him
>>81109032
I'm not even natsoc I just want holocaust redpills
>>81105778
Hitler Sperg the fuck out when France and Britain Honor their agreement to defend Catholic Russia. Him also renegading on his deals with France and Britian did not help him when he tried to offer peace
>>81105778
The eternal anglo and the frog fucked his country after WW1, they want their land back.
>death camps
>summary executions didn't exist before 1940
>Israel and USA do not have camps full of muslimes today
Yeah, keep beating the dead horse
>>81109446
>Renegades on all of his Previous treaties and deals with France and Britain.
>Be surprised when they don't want to hear your "Peace" offer.
>>81105778
War trauma from WW1 drove Hitler and Germany insane with vengeance and brain damage.
People forget WW1 when talking about WW2.
WW1 from Germany's perspective was 100% fucking retarded and a giant reason to be pissed off at everybody forever.
>pre-WW1 Germany is robust and rising young power
>sends troops on peacekeeping mission to support its ally's government against internal turmoil
>everyone freaks out and turns it into armageddon and Hell on Earth
Belgium and the peanut gang should have just stepped the fuck off and we'd be a lot happier today.
>>81108852
They were rearming like every other Euro nations because the Commies were getting prepared to steamroll Europe.
>>81109656
there is nothing wrong with restructuring your debt
>>81105778
He expelled the global bankers, which is how they turned the economy around. Their puppets were going to be coming to punish germany on whatever excuse, so he struck first to reclaim old territory and that started the big ww2.
>>81105778
>but he had to ruin it all and declare war on every body
correction. it was the french, the brits, and british colonies who declared war on germany first. germany only declared war on Poland after they had more then 10 years of very bad relations and Germans were tortured, killed, robed and resettled in the ethnic German lands which the victors gave to Poland after WW1
>>81105778
>He had created the perfect state
if it was perfect it would have lasted more than 10 years
>>81109782
WW1 pissed everybody off. Even the victors. The Central Powers got fucking butt raped, with their land because mangled, their populations isolated, their economies destroyed and the soldiers of the previous massively standing armies completely fucking pissed. Many of the generals and soldiers felt completely betrayed by their governments.
But then France and England were buttfucked too. Completely exhausted from war, economy down the shitter, millions dead and a long road ahead for a war they got dragged into and got nothing out of.
>>81107369
so why he attacked the whole Europe?
couldn't it be a Germany vs Russia thing over dead Poland body?
winners write the history
you cant just enslave a whole country without telling everybody how bad and evil your last gouverment was..
>>81110470
Why indeed...
>>81108933
>33
I'm just taking the piss, lass, don't fret.
>>81110580
and memes aside?
>>81108354
>soviets were only going to get stronger
Sure, but only because of the 5-year plans developing Soviet industry, and that the military was recovering from Stalin's purges.
>enough to dominate Europe
lol sure. The Germans almost won the Eastern front in our timeline, even while dedicating resources to fighting the Allies.
People forget that the Soviet Union was completely isolated diplomatically after the Revolution. The USSR created the Eastern bloc by conquering eastern Europe after fighting a long, brutal war with Germany, and rallying against the invaders.
An aggressive USSR would have had no chance against literally every other major European power. The western Allies intervened on the side of the White Russians in the Civil War, this scenario would be no different.
>>81110342
>American reading skills
Did you even read the whole thread?
Imagine if the third Reich never had the whole world coming to kill it. We would all be better off because 1. A second superpower to balance out the US (and vice versa) 2. Technology would be farther ahead as the Nazis were very big on technology and rivalry like that would produce some great innovations that we may not see for 20 years because "muh can't make maximum profits *puffs cigar*" 3. Space would still be seriously explored. 4. And most importantly the third reich wouldn't be soft with the human trash and allow Europe and the rest of the west to be flooded by Muslims. They may actually have gone and nuked Mecca by now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tABCVg6qODg&pxtry=2
>>81111082
WERE
>>81111111
ARYANS
>People in this thread implying the USSR would be able to conquer a defence-orientated, battle-fresh Germany on one front, which would likely still be trading with the west.
Face it ya dinguses imperialism is not a good strategy in the modern world. It's also anti-nationalist.
>>81111111
GUD
>>81111111
nice get
>>81111111
CHECKED
>>81111111
WASTED DIGITS
>>81111111
WITNESSED
>>81111111
wew lad
>>81111111
What a waste of a get...
>>81111111
Waste of septs
>>81111111
WASTED SEP
>>81111111
WITNESS ME
>>81111111
you blew it
>>81110896
no, because of pure industrial, resource, and population capacity. people forget the massive amount of communist revolutions they were pulling in europe even while weak, and how weak the allies and weimar germany were post ww1, the soviets would have easily dominated from portugal to siberia if fascism hadnt risen to combat the collective threat to europe
>>81111111
wasted
>>81107873
Tell me how it was
1. vengeance
2. impending economic collapse if he didn't go to war
3. concerns that Stalin was a megalomaniacal communist monster who could never be trusted
(was actually correct)
>>81111111
What did KEK mean by this?
>>81111111
>samefagging
shame on you burguer
>>81111278
There are no mass-graves today anywhere near the number of bodies are claimed were systematically executed
The stories about Jew-soap and Jew-bookbindings, Jew-lampshades, which were officially promoted by governments, repeated in textbooks, believed in by millions, and testified to by various 'survivors' are now commonly admitted to be complete fabrications. Notice that these were widely believed aspects of the Holocaust story
The claims about gas and how the gas was administered varied widely, and today are entirely inconsistent - we're supposed to believe this was a systematic, nation\empire-wide extermination program, but the stories not only change from camp to camp, but the stories per camp have changed over time... "gas came out of shower heads", one of the definitive claims is now commonly agreed to be preposterous. In some places "carbon monoxide" some places "carbon dioxide' were pumped into chambers, in others zyklon B gas...in others zyklon B pellets. You can still find hundreds of videos of people claiming they personally knew of zyklon B being administered via showerheads, despite official historians now agreeing that didn't happen.
All the powers involved had good reason to promoted the Holocaust myth. Political zionists, the US, Russia, etc all had reason to maintain outrage and atrocity stories re Germany.
The numbers have continually been revised down. All the major death camps have independently had their numbers revised down from millions, to hundreds of thousands, to tens of thousands, in some cases to thousands.
Many of the most famous documentaries on the Holocaust clearly use manipulative distortions, misrepresent the architecture and design of the camps, etc to propagandistic effect
Survival of the Teutonic Race is why.
Now we are dying out.
>>81111111
Shitposter gets gets
>>81110504
okay but does that make hitler any less of a loser?
he lost point blank period. he had some good ideas yes, but he was ultimately unable to materialize them.
>>81109375
>Catholic Russia
1. The USSR was communist atheist
2. Any major religion in Russia is orthodox Christian
>checks flag
Read a book nigger
>>81110580
Comedy Gold
>>81110343
Except Shell and Standard Oil.
>>81105778
War was unavoidable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g
>>81111111
SEPTUPLEZ N SHEIT
>>81105778
>this is what naziboos actually believe
Read a book for fuck's sake.
>>81111545
watched it all already m8
Because war was the only option for Reich to not go bankrupt.
Can we finally stop this "Hitler did nothing wrong and was the best leader on the planet" meme?
>>81111111
>>82222222 will be another word
>Kek will speak to us like this
>>81111111
Kill yourself.
>>81110470
>couldn't it be a Germany vs Russia thing over dead Poland body?
Why everyone always forget about Czechoslovakia?
>>81110896
>the Soviet Union was completely isolated diplomatically
Soviet Union was half of Eurasia.
If half ingnores half it's not isolation.
>>81109375
> Catholic Russia
Not sure where you got this strange idea but you need to read a few history books to get up to speed.
>>81111111
lmao
>>81111315
We were. Now we are no more.
>>81109782
>>81110343
WW1 Pisses me off to this day and is ultimately the reason we're all fucked
It should have been a war between two shitry third world countries
Instead because of the fucking web of alliances nobody even really fully knew about the world gets dragged into a bloodbath
Germany gets blamed for whole war while it was really Austria wanting to shoot a few Serbs. Germany has to pay all the war reparations because Austrian empire collapses into third world shithole
It's THE reason things like NATO should be disbanded. the world should have just sat back. Serbia and Austria would fight for a few months before they both went bankrupt and would both just go home and forget the thing.
basic geopolitics
You need to hold asia if you don't want to get shit stomped by sea powers
>>81111732
>Can we finally stop this "Hitler did nothing wrong and was the best leader on the planet" meme?
Kids today just can't believe in mass murder without reason.
Every generation should have it's own World War only then people became serious.
>>81111111
>WERE
ITS A GET
MODERN WHITES CONFIRMED NO LONGER ARYAN
IT MAKES SENSE NOW
PRAISE KEK FOR REVELATIONS
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>>81111111
Only a burger could have done this
>>81111783
> pretext for this effort was the alleged privations suffered by the ethnic German population living in those regions
makes me think
>>81110504
So if Hitler was so evil and hated how come he could basically walk among the people unguarded smiling laughing and shaking hands?
If our "leaders" today are so loved and good how come they stand behind bulletproof glass while speaking to a selected crowd while surrounded by armed guards.
Really makes you think
>>81112009
>can't believe in mass murder without reason
What is war?
>>81112077
>77
Confirmed for the superior race.
>>81111177
>>81111266
WiTNESSED
>>81105987
Stalin was actually a goodboi. He had no intention of initiating war with Hitler.
>>81112285
War never changes
>>81111473
Pre sure he's referring to Poland as being Catholic Russia
>>81112445
Stalin felt betrayed by Hitler after he saw tanks near his land. He was already paranoid of people in his government.
>>81112486
Indeed, frogs have a daily reminder just yesterday.
>>81111111
>>81105778
He was just a power hungry guy who successfully scapegoated jews in order to get that power
He did it to be a MARTYR...!
Country will be as safe, how well it can frighten the terrorists, while not being itself terroristic ...
Avoid collective guilt.
Avoid war.
Do not make martyrs from them.
Do not force them to defend.
Punish this and each other terrorist such, that no other muslim terrorist will repeat it.
Grind the terrorist with PORK head and let eat by DOGS in a shelter.
This prevents muslim from his heavenly reward...
This solution was used by british occupation forces a century ago and it worked...!
>>81112000
This is also why nobody could take Russia by force. They control most of that area and most of what they don't control are Muslim shitholes that can easily be controlled if needed
>muh nukes
If you nuke your enemies you both lose
Also Germany's major problem in relation to this is it has next to 0 oil supply of its own meaning Germany has to get it from elsewhere. It's why Putin has the EU by the balls. Every time they talk shit he just says "want me to close the oil valve?" Also why do you think Germany was in the Middle East? Why they decided to turn around and push on Stalingrad? It was all because they needed more oil
Hitlers ideas of independence and nationalism were great but hard as fuck to implement in a geographical location that is very lacking in many natural resources
>>81105778
Polish were going to murder germans. Were preempted. Britain got pissy and declared war. Germany had to press through and defeat britain if they wanted war to end. Other countries told them no and took up arms against them
>>81105778
Why did Hitler do it? For a start, his main motivation was that he wanted to make his country great again. Germany was a fucking mess after WWII, and he wanted to fix it. That meant, of course, taking stuff from other people.
Now, you have to understand - At that time, the Jews had no country. Therefore, in each nation around the world, there was a higher-than-normal proportion of Jews. And, of course, they form their own enclaves; Note that I'm not saying any of this is bad. This is a completely natural thing for people to do. When Germany was in the dumps, they obviously took the chance to buy up as much as they could and to integrate themselves further into the power structure. (An analogy would be Brexit - When the pound crashed, every right-thinking person hurried to go and buy it up.)
From Hitler - and any other German's perspective - it appears that the Jews are buying up everything and eating his country one bite at a time. So he drives them out and seizes their property.
But it isn't enough. The Jews - because they're pissed at being driven out - start to agitate other countries against Germany. Hitler, therefore, realizes that the only way (as he sees it) the world can be free of Jewish influence is to wipe them all out.
For instance: Will the world really be free of Muslim influence just by deporting illegal immigrants? The only way to really get rid of them is to burn every Koran, destroy every mosque, kill all the believers in Islam, and re-educate their entire population. This is a monumental task.
Hitler, however, attempted to do it. It's a leap of reasoning, but the motivations behind it are completely and utterly logical. You have to take into account the way things were at that time. In fact, this is illustrative, because we're coming close to WWIII ourselves with us in the role of the Axis and the Muslims in the role of the Jews. (I would argue that the Jews are less harmful than the Muslims, but that's just my perspective.)
>>81105948
And Czechslovakia, Denmark, Albania, Spain, the USSR, the USA, Norway, Belgium, Holland, Luxemburg, Yugoslavia...
>but he had to ruin it all and declare war on every body, and also kill millions of people for no reason in death camps
both of these things are false. the world declared war on Germany, and the holocaust never happened.
>>81113207
prove it
>>81108852
And the British were rationing after the war up untl 1954, even though they had won. What's you point?
>>81113393
The Britain economy wasn't based on war and land expansion.
>>81113277
you're on /pol/, you'll learn the truth soon enough
just know that I'm right
>>81111082
>>81111111
>>81111149
made me ponder
Nazi Germany had huge debts prior to the war. War was only solution for their economic problems.
>>81113512
I know the truth already m8, I need more redpills
>>81113512
No you're not.
Germans are invanders in my book and you can't prove me wrong.
>>81105778
It was not "perfect" in any sense. It was a shithole which only was kept running thanks to debt and military spending giving huge contracts to the heavy industry monopolies. The actual jobs program thing had little impact in the overall economy, and was more about the propaganda and the positive image that the nazi party tried to sell to the working class of Germany that anything else.
If the war had not happened, Germany would have gone bankrupt in a few years, so the german government decided to not pay the debt and invade its neighbours to fund and justify its huge military-industrial complex.
>>81113620
again rings a bell
>>81113176
>Spain
Are you retarded? Spain didn't fought on side with the Axis because the country was seriously fucked after our Civil War, and even then the Blue Division helped the germans all over Europe and Russia.
Hitler helped Nationals in our Civil War too.
>>81113501
No, it was based on imports from the colonies that it had subjugated which is just as bad. People tend to forget all the conflicts that stemmed from colonialism. Not saying it was a horrible thing but it still lead to a lot of death, same as having a permanent war economy. What do you think the US is? The only reason we still have any serious manufacturing is because of government contracts and the amount of money pumped into our defense industries that prop up what's left of our industrial base.
>>81105778
>tfw you realise the wrong side won
Hitler sent a peacefull demand for Danzig and the previously german clay, to Poland. They reffused and he invaded them.
Then France and Britain joined the War. So he proposed a peace deal before any fighting broke out, but they declined. So he invaded they to remove the threat.
After that he had to make sure that he didn't leave any nations that might be used as a staging point to invade germant such as yugoslavia, denmark and norway. So he had to invade them because the Aliance didn't want to sue for peace. And the aliance could possibly land troops there which would be detrimential to the Germans.
Then the USSR started to mobalize their army towards the German border even though they had a treaty. So Germany broke the treaty and invaded before the USSR army could be fully mobalized.
Hitler only went to war with Poland for Danzig. But the allies escalated the war.
>>81113839
One of the harder truths to swallow
>>81105778
Lebensraum you mong.
Don't they teach you this shit in school in Murrrica?
>>81113017
>If you nuke your enemies you both lose
Trudeau is that you?
>>81111111
Checkem
>you will never be a /fa/ nazi officer
>>81113815
>The only reason we still have any serious manufacturing is because of government contracts and the amount of money pumped into our defense industries
But isn't that just multi- national corporations expanding? I understand the government contracts part and trade agreements. But don't think it's connected to the military
>>81105870
What is this Danzig you talk of ? :^)
>>81111111
>WERE
sadly
>>81113839
This. The west lost it's fanaticism and it's spirit only to be replaced by universalism, nihilism, and consumerism. What do you have to fight for if you can't fight for your family, nation, and ideals? Nothing, and so communism and other subversive ideologies slowly ate away at the west from the inside and now what do we have? The whole of Western Europe will go the way of America, becoming browner and less European in every way, shape, and form, with every successive generation.
>>81113979
sure the nazi's and fascists were oppressive af and wouldn't hesitate to murder ''innocents'' but at least they were for preserving their own people, if a muslim would have killed 70 people in the 1930's it would have been solved in a week
>>81114257
>But isn't that just multi- national corporations expanding?
No? Did you even read that aloud to yourself before posting?
>I understand the government contracts part and trade agreements. But don't think it's connected to the military
Nigga, what are you smoking?
>>81114542
They weren't oppressive, just suppressed elements that were by their nature, subversive.
>>81111111
Wasted
>>81105778
just speak with a bavarian. because germans are arrogant fucks. funny how they have been raped to submission twice, and now they are cucked beyond reason.
>>81114606
>Corporations expand to other countries to make money
>Trade deals help them make more money easier
>Government contracts and embassies help diplomatic relations.
>Like for example: China building roads and schools in Africa
>>81115137
You completely missed my point... I guess I should have assumed as much would happen given your support of the claim that the German economy was based on war and land expansion.
>>81115320
Well, there's a mcdonald's in every military base, I'll give you that.
China didn't have to military invade parts of Africa to expand it's economy. Companies can just do business over seas and send the money back to HQ.
>All this JIDF ITT
disgust me
>>81113781
German officers and soldiers attacked civilians, buildings and soldiers of the legitimate government of Spain during the civil war. The Condor Legion is the main example.
>>81115681
In case you haven't seen it:
https://youtu.be/iEeSPc5oTcM
>>81116493
Again, they were helping National Front and that was before WW2 even started.
>>81116493
>Communists
>legitimate
lol
>>81115655
Again, you're just mumbling retarded shit. I never claimed that the entire US economy is propped up by our military industry, just that our MANUFACTURING is largely dependent on that and government contracting. A big chunk of commercial industry and manufacturing has bled over seas since the late 60's/early 70's
>>81116974
He sounds like what I imagine pic related to sound like
>>81107873
It is real. But 6 million were not killed.
Also people should focus on how bad Stalin was. But they taught us "Hitler killed anyone that socket have blonde hair and blue eyes"
>>81117288
That's a whole different can of worms f.a.m.
>>81114252
Man, our Uniforms back then were pretty dank.
>>81105778
You base all this on the false assumption that (((they))) would have allowed such a successful example of a nation that had rid themselves of parasitical usurers to exist peacefully. Every effort was made to drag Germany into war. And tens of millions of lives were thrown away to defeat it. All supposedly to defend Poland, a country they subsequently let fall to Communism without any challenge?
Hitler never wanted war and went to every effort to avoid it. Elements of British nobility were willing to stop it, hence Rudolf Hess's fateful flight. Plans were in motion to stop it all before Europe destroyed itself. And we did destroy ourselves. Look around you, does this look like victory? Only (((they))) won.
Again one of these pol threads where no one has any Idea about why it happened, still using the lebensraum meme and so on... Stalin said that "this war will be knows as roosevelts war" because nobody did more to get it than him. And this is in regards to him influencing UK and poland before the war, not japan.
Betraying the Munich Aggreement was where Hitler officially became the aggressor belligerent.
Deal with it.
>>81117207
>A big chunk of commercial industry and manufacturing has bled over seas since the late 60's/early 70's
That's because of glorious capitalism.
>>81117207
>just that our MANUFACTURING is largely dependent on that and government contracting
Now, but not back then before factories left for China, India, etc. We still earn huge profits from guns and aircraft that carry bombs.
>>81117048
The "national front" was a junta of insurrected generals and foreign mercenaries who tried to coup the elected government. And I don't give a shit if WW2 had not started yet, Germany took part in the civil war and was clearly and aggressor.
>>81117127
>Be you
>Read a history book
Choose one and only one.
>>81117469
No really, the reason why the Allies rushed to war over Poland was because of Hitler's betrayal of the Munich Agreement, annexing Czechlands after promising not to after being handed the Sudetenlands.
This was the point in time where the Allied leaders saw war to be inevitable, because Hitler took a great big dump on their appeasement agreements.
Any attempts by Hitler to make peace after this, and the conquest of Poland, is damage control at best.
This isn't a matter of right or wrong. If your going to glorify the Axis, at least glorify them as the belligerent conquerors they were instead of trying to frame them as peace-loving innocent flowers who dindu nuffn.
>>81117365
Weren't they designed by Hugo Boss?
>>81117931
>helping one side in a conflict already in motion
>declaring war on Spain
pick one
>>81118235
>Weren't they designed by Hugo Boss?
Yes.
In fact, a lot of big German Companies were involved in Military Production.
The Reich created "millions of jobs" through war efforts that were inherently unsustainable. Hitler was shitting himself over this, and it contributed to the ongoing war efforts. It was destined to collapse and without the initial drive for conflict the Weimar Republic deficit would have lingered. Jobs were just an excuse to build war machinery. Given this was a significant heart of the Reich's political and social infrastructure, no war = no jobs = loss of promises to the German people and potential loss of support.
Additionally, while the Reich might have blossomed in engineering, infrastructure, and the perception of high employment rates, they were also an empire committed to heavy censorship and control of information. I always find it cringy when /pol/ has a tanty about SJW censorship, then pats the Reich on the back, when they were literally the same thing; groupthink, concepts, and ideas that didn't fit the political norm were obliterated and those who continued to push them were punishable by law.
Hitler and co didn't create the perfect state at all. They created the illusion of a perfect state, a blitzkrieg of legitimate progress, at the cost of many other things through deception and manipulation of the public, censorship of information, with extremely limited long term prospects and almost borderline zero sustainability. Typical tyranny and fascism; without war the Reich wouldn't flourish, and without flourishing the Reich would never see success and recognition.
>>81118235
>>81118562
Looks like they were produced by Hugo Boss, but not designed by him.
"By the third quarter of 1932, the all-black SS uniform (to replace the SA brown shirts) was designed by SS-Oberführer Prof. Karl Diebitsch and Walter Heck (graphic designer).[2] Hugo Boss company produced these black uniforms along with the brown SA shirts and the black-and-brown uniforms of the Hitler Youth.[4][5"
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss_(fashion_designer)
>>81118790
The Prussian wing of the regime openly conspired to remove Hitler from power in '44. Support for the 20 July plot within German military and political circles was far more pervasive than most people let on, and the resentment leading to the plot starts with the Munich Agreement betrayal.
Hitler's economic advisors, the men who make Germany great in the 30s are thought to be complicit in this plot.
>>81118562
The officer and adjutant one are effay as fuck.
>>81118790
Holy shit. If my last name was Die Bitch most of my problems would solve instantly.
>>81105778
(Justified) irredentism and he had piled up a shitload of debt.
>>81114064
Looks beautiful
>>81114064
Why oh why did this never happen
>>81111111
what a waste
>>81105870
>>81105948
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>>81106621
>>81106657
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>>81113850
blue pilled
>>81108852
>>81111732
>>81113742
red pilled
most of /pol/ are a bunch of blue pilled idiots, not surprised really
>>81105778
I wonder if any of those people in pic related died in a combat situation.
>>81107873
https://youtu.be/Dda-0Q_XUhk
https://youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM
>>81120416
thx
He declared war on Poland following international protocols for doing so.
France and the UK declared war on Nazi Germany (not following international protocols).
And after repelling French and UK forces across the channel he immediately attempted to open peace talks (which Churchill ultimately rejected).
And historical evidence suggests that the Red Army was massed along the borders of nazi territory in attack formation at the time Germany attacked Russia. so the Soviet Union was actually about to steamroll Germany. The numbers were in the Soviet's favor. Hitler's ONLY option was to launch a full scale invasion of Russia to try and break their lines.
So Hitler didn't "declare war on everybody".
That's just some propaganda bullshit.
>>81105778
>He had created the perfect state
lel
> he had saved Germany from becoming a third world country
lel
>he created millions of jobs
Only trough military expense, wich pilled up massive debt.
Also check the unemployment numbers.
>and introduced innovative Autobahn
Nope, construction was started in Weimar republic
> and other wonderful acts of infrastructure
like?
> but he had to ruin it all and declare war on every body
He need to.
> and also kill millions of people for no reason in death camps.
well, mad men will do mad men stuff
> He could have had it all.
Nope, nazi germany was highly inneficient, corruption was on african levels, economy was unsustainable...
>Why /pol/? Why?
Mad men will do mad men stuff
>>81117615
>That's because of glorious capitalism.
No, it's crony capitalism, globalism, and free trade while also dismantling tons of tariffs. Plus of course over taxations and fucking retarded regulations.
>Now, but not back then before factories left for China, India, etc. We still earn huge profits from guns and aircraft that carry bombs.
Are you daft?
>>81119592
The black ones are dress/ceremonial uniforms -- for day to day stuff, all SS who weren't tank crews wore silver or field-grey uniforms. The only SS who wore black uniforms on duty after 1937 or so were country bumpkins
>>81120537
>He declared war on Poland following international protocols for doing so.
Yeah, because breaking non agression pacts and staging false flag events are totally accepted by internatonal community
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Himmler
>France and the UK declared war on Nazi Germany (not following international protocols).
>what is the treaty of versailles
desu france and UK took too much time to act
>And after repelling French and UK forces across the channel he immediately attempted to open peace talks (which Churchill ultimately rejected).
>beccasue Hitler was renowed to be a honorauble man
>What is the munich treaty
>nd historical evidence suggests that the Red Army was massed along the borders of nazi territory in attack formation at the time Germany attacked Russia.
source?
>So Hitler didn't "declare war on everybody".
Yeah, he felled and tripped because of jewish international banker bolsheviks who put a banana peel in his way.
>>81120537
see
>>81118107
>>81117469
The Allies weren't suddenly "wow I hate Hitler now" when Germany flattened Poland.
The ultimatums were clear, and these ultimatums were based on the president Hitler set by turning on the promises he made after the Munich Agreement.
Germany was the aggressor force. This doesn't necessarily make them the """"bad guys""""" in terms of motive but they were the aggressor force nonethefuckingless. Get over it.
>>81120275
Valid point fellow intellectual, I completely understand your argument now that you presented it in such a clean and clear fashion.
The information you've laid before me has completely shifted my worldview.
>Faggot
>>81120722
>crony capitalis is not caapitalism
Then USSR is not socialism
>>81120559
>being this bluepilled
>>81120722
It's true, before corporations like Unilever and mcdonalds leveled up to muti-national corporations we did have a economy where factories here in the US made a variety of goods. Not jut guns, bombs and aircraft carriers like we do now.
>>81121266
not an argument
>I AM REDPILLED GUISE!!!!!!!!!! I BLAME THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPENED!!!!!
>I AM A VIRGIN BECAUSE THE JOOOOOOOS MADE ALL THE WOMEN WHORES!!!!!
>WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BLUEPILLED, AND NOT MORE LIKE ME!!! I LIKE A GENOCIDIAL MANIAC WHO FOREVER GAVE A POWERFULL WEAPON TO SILENCE NATIONALISM!!!!!!!!!!!! JEEEZ WHY ARE NORMIES SO BLUEPILLED AMIRITE GUISE?
>>81121609
not an argument
>>81110924
love david irving, all he has is hard documentation and facts, no fake dog shit.
maybe it was related to his methamphetamine usage
inb4 he started wars before meth tho idk I'm 12 (not rly no ban plz)
>>81121609
>>81121844
It was no supposed to be one. I was just mocking naziboos.
>>81121609
That wasn't an argument either.
You also should have provided sources to your previous comment (>>81120559), no wonder you aren't getting any (((yous))).
>>81121879
all vids of him blocked in germany
need to use proxy to watch it
>>81105778
>No reason
Kekekekek
>>81105778
I do not know who cares. and why?
Europeans are all coward faggots. i know i know keyboard warrior blah blah blah.
But listen. europeans are fucking cowards. and faggots. end of story. only Eastern europe is still the men they were from the past. The entire western part of europe is a bunch of pussies. who only care about trying to look politically correct and "accepting" at the cost of peoples lives.
We as a nation need to not give a shit about those idiots. let them die. WE however must focus on killing and deporting all people in OR and WA state. as they are faggots like europeans. and they are americas france and sweden..
No joke. Do n ot believe me? any other city have a simple domain and url like ihateseattle.com. Do not be mistaken. It has the city name. but that city represents all of washington and all of oregon. The poor poor bastard conservatives have let themselves be shut down by the liberals in those 2 states. They must all be deported to europe.
>>81122081
>>81122026
What parts do you want sources?
>>81122026
>literally
>>81121609
Give me some of the drugs you are taking
>>81122175
>60%
>who only care about trying to look politically correct and "accepting" at the cost of peoples lives.
>speaks the one from america
>>81105870
>danzig
>>81105778
>he created millions of jobs
No, he mass mobilized people in exchange of low to null wages. That, along with Austria and Czechoslovakia free-handed to them gave them the initial momentum.
Thats one particular detail that everyone forgets. The totalitarian far right is as controlling as a soviet regime. The only difference is that people can claim that they own property.
>>81122199
I dunno, all of them?
You spouted bullshit in the first place and didn't try to back your facts up.
>>81122214
What makes you think i was arguing anything in that post?
But well, i don't expect sources and arguments from naziboos
>>81122249
nenhuma mano. Tou a tentar deixar o tabaco
>>81120559
It's always a joy to see someone who gets it, even if he's a tripfag.
Hitler's policies were unsustainable without war.
Regardless of what Hitler claimed, war was inevitable for Germany.
WW2 started the day Hitler came to power and founded an entire national economy upon its military industrial complex.
After Hitler seized power, the Germans had to choices:
War or return to poverty and starvation, only to a much bigger extent.
>>81120416
People need to realize that it doesn't matter whether the holocaust happened or not. It was an inconsequential event if seen through the proper historical context of the vast destruction and immense number of deaths and casualties suffered by all countries in WW2.
More than 70 million people died all over the world during WW2. Why would anyone give special status or recognition to any particular group is beyond me. It is illogical and insulting to everyone else.
>>81111969
>Serbia and Austria would fight for a few months before they both went bankrupt and would both just go home and forget the thing.
how can you make money lending to nations that way?
>>81122559
>i don't expect sources and arguments from naziboos
You first m8
>>81121609
Welcome to my filter list
>>81114244
Oh my.
>>81122624
You will find this surprising, but t.bh i always found the greek posters to be the best, smartest posters here.
>>81122929
>>81120559
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>>81121609
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>>81122199
>>81122559
>>81122747
>click ID
>check posts
>is a naziboo
By all means do it
>>81122624
Not 100% true. Hitler could have easily chosen peace, even after the annexation of Austria. But he didn't.
He went against his advisement, fucked the Czechs, promised not to fuck the Czechs, then fucked the Czechs against. At that point war was inevitable.
Can we end this "rightful german clay" and "evil Poland took the land from Germany after WWI"? Why does everybody ignore the partitions? Prussia invaded and took those lands by force, Poland only got them BACK after WWI, and we actually should have gotten more of them back as our borders after WWI were nowhere near what they were before the partitions.
Germans were the aggresors in the 18th century and when they finally lost they actually made themselves the victims of evil Poles.
Germans were aggresors again in 1939, lost and again they are the victims of evil Poland?
Invade your neighbors, lose, cry that it's unfair. Are you fucking retarded?
>>81121187
I never claimed that amigo
>>81123054
>>81121437
You're putting the cart before the horse faggot
>>81123193
I just want to say that both stormvirgins and left autists are glorious winged faggots that never worked from 9 to 17.
They also never scored.
>>81123208
You're just mad because Hilter's socialism doesn't work and only ends up making more enemies in the end, that's why he got BTFO by Russia.
>>81122412
Listen here you lustonaian cuck
This is a suprise to you.. but in America i cana ctually yell at dumb burqa bitches "go back to your shitty country and FUCK ISLAM" out loud in public. and i will niot be arrested. Sure the faggot liberals will look at me with disgust.
but guess what. i can tell themt o all suck my big brown dick. AND I STILL will not go to jail. I know such freedom does not exist in eurabia. as you will get arrested sooner or later.
You are NEXT PORTUGAL
o wait. moortugal.
Case clased.
>>81123502
Hitler's socialism, NATIONAL socialism, is the only kind of socialism that has ever worked.
>>81123502
Hjalmar Schacht's economic model worked just fine.
It's just that Hitler sacked him when he protested Hitler's post-38 belligerence and warmongering.
>>81123697
It's not Hitler's socialism.
It's Schacht's socialism.
>>81123298
saved ;)
>>81123797
It's not worth making the distinction with these people
>>81123808
Thanks friend!
>>81123113
>Not 100% true. Hitler could have easily chosen peace, even after the annexation of Austria.
And what would Hitler do with his vast armies after he had stopped (moved no further than Austria)?
Would he disband millions of conscripts that had joined the Wehrmacht?
And what would these people do for a living after they found themselves ousted from the army and unemployed?
Most of the German workforce under Hitler were either in the military, or supporting the military infrastructure and logistics.
>>81108852
this
>>81109144
and also this
>>81123690
>lustonaian
>american education
> but in America i cana ctually yell at dumb burqa bitches
Me too.
> "go back to your shitty country and FUCK ISLAM" out loud in public. and i will niot be arrested. Sure the faggot liberals will look at me with disgust.
same here
>but guess what. i can tell themt o all suck my big brown dick. AND I STILL will not go to jail. I know such freedom does not exist in eurabia. as you will get arrested sooner or later.
We can do this here, but since there are no burkas here...
Fox News told you europeans (like europe is one big nation) get arrested for badmouthing other people?
>>81123697
>Hitler
>socialism
kek
>worked
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
>>81123690
>read Othello in school
>gets the joke
Thank you education
>>81123876
That fucking leaf is right, you have to make the distinction.
>During the economic crisis of 1935–36, Schacht, together with the Price Commissioner Dr. Carl Friedrich Goerdeler, helped lead the "free-market" faction in the German government. They urged Hitler to reduce military spending, turn away from autarkic and protectionist policies, and reduce state control in the economy. Schacht and Goerdeler were opposed by a faction centering on Hermann Göring
>>81123935
The German army wasn't as vast as you think it was at this point in history.
I agree that the initiation of hostilities was Hitler's conscientious choice alone, but I disagree that it was inevitable the moment he took office.
>>81108852
>iirc they were rationing certain goods before the war had even begun.
>some
They were rationing pretty much everything.
They even took all the lightining posts of the cities and replaced them by wooden ones
>>81110504
where did they all park? or did they take the bus?
>>81124230
>>81124067
From portugal
Bright sunny
warm place.
People socializing people
they go out all day talk and meet new people
You are inside
FUCK YOUU!~!!! im in this shitty state WA!!!
I workec for faggotys in Microsoft and i quit 2 weeks ago
im moving to GA in 2 days
FUCK YOU FOR NOT BEING OUTSIDE!!!!!!!
DFUCK YOU!@!!!!!!
in med weather state.
>staying inside
ULTIMATE BETA!!
>>81120559
>>and introduced innovative Autobahn
Nope, construction was started in Weimar republic
Great, weimar republic build like 2km of street in the ruhr area and thats it.
>Only trough military expense, wich pilled up massive debt.
When will this meme die? They rearmed yes, but their military expenses in % of GDP was only reached the levels of france or the USSR by 1939. The others were way ahead of germany and even started to prepare for war before germany did anything.
And to whom where they indebted to exactly? They printed their own money which created huge inflation by 1939... but debt? Where did they lend money from?
>>81113047
do you come here alot?
>>81105778
Because he tried saving us all, but the people against him were tricked by the devil to fight for the jews and now god will make us suffer for our sins and ignorance
>>81121609
>>81123935
>And what would Hitler do with his vast armies after he had stopped (moved no further than Austria)? Would he disband millions of conscripts that had joined the Wehrmacht?
What vast armies again? They had less than France or the USSR and attacked poland with literally 3 weeks worth of ammo. Western germany didn´t have any useful defense at that time.
If the others could finance bigger armys and let them stay around, why couldn´t germany?
>Most of the German workforce under Hitler were either in the military, or supporting the military infrastructure and logistics.
lmao. You had like 1.5-2.5 million people working in that regard, going up to 9% of GDP for military expenses I believe. This is not "most of the workforce". But dank memes there
pay debt.
>>81124454
>they go out all day talk and meet new people
I'm quiting tobacco, the moment i step out of the house i buy a pack, or a single one ( a vulso).
>people don't socialize because of weather
wat?
>>81124501
>Great, weimar republic build like 2km of street in the ruhr area and thats it.
Doesn't matter. it wasn't the nazis that created te autobahn
> They rearmed yes, but their military expenses in % of GDP was only reached the levels of france or the USSR by 1939.
source?
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/nazi-germany-military-expenditure/
>>81124814
yeah, I've come to realize this too, we are being punished by God for our sins, arrogance, ignorance, greed, lust, all of it, only after can we regain humanity
>>81124972
>http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/nazi-germany-military-expenditure/
and?
>>81123697
>Hitler's shit worked
Hitler was in power for about a decade, and he spend half the time in a state of war.
The East Roman Empire lasted for over 1000 years. Now tell me why would anyone support a fucking loser like Hitler who got BTFO! in less than 5 years, and not support a united Europe, under a Greek emperor, with Greek as the lingua franca? Give me one legit reason.
>>81124210
Well at the beginning it was about 5 million, and at its peak it reached over 10 million.
You also need to account for the immense civilian infrastructure that supported the military machine.
Millions of people worked to feed, make clothes, make ammo, build all types of small arms and war machines (tanks, subs) etc etc.
The point is that every aspect of the German economy under Hitler revolved around the military.
>>81122892
Cheers! :)
>>81124935
Let's do this a different way.
Go ahead and list the 10 major industries in Germany from 1935 to 1945.
What was Germany's most produced commodities, biggest export(s) and import(s) during that decade?
>>81125200
The german naziboo was objectively wrong
I one day thouht of immigrating to armenia. What do you think? what would armenians think of a portuguese? What market is there for a cs graduate?
>>81111111
Can I be in the screen cap
>>81111111
Well one thing for sure, these WERE wasted
>>81120275
wow what a compelling argument!
>>81124972
You make it sound as if "inventing" laying comcrete onto the ground was impressive. Actually building the the autobahn is the impressive thing here.
Regarding armaments:
So what efforts did this German opponent make?
In the fiscal years 1933-34 and 1934-35 no increase in the armament
expenditure was recorded. An expenditure representing 4% of the national income
has to be regarded as positively moderate compared to the neighbouring countries
(Great Britain 3%, France – 1932 – 8.1%, Soviet Russia 9%).6)6) Die deutsche Industrie im Kriege 1939-1945, published by the Deutschen Institut für
Wirtschaftsforschung (German Institute for Economic Research), p. 16.
The British historian A.J.P. Taylor stated:
“The French had fired the starting-pistol for the arms race.” 8)
“Germany, for instance, was little more prepared for a great war between
1933 and 1936 than she had been before Hitler came to power. The difference
was that he had strong nerves and his predecessors had not.” 9)
“Many of the early alarms about German rearmament were false alarms...
Even in 1939 the German army was not equipped for a prolonged war; and in
1940 the German land forces were inferior to the French in everything except
leadership.” 10)
“The Nazi secret was not armaments production; it was freedom from the
then orthodox principles of economics.” 11)
“Under Hitler’s direction, Germany was equipped to win the war of nerves
– the only war he understood and liked; she was not equipped to conquer
Europe....
In considering German armament we escape from the mystic regions of
Hitler’s psychology and find an answer in the realm of fact. The answer is
clear. The state of German armament in 1939 gives the decisive proof that
Hitler was not contemplating general war, and probably not intending war at
all.” 12)
The German level of armament was
1937 = 9%
1938 = 16% of the level in 1944 13)
1939 = 18 % }
7)
sorry for the fucked up formatting. Copy paste from book
>>81122624
One could also argue that the treaty of versaille was unsustainable without war
>>81105778
Because he couldn't pay for all this, do he decided to kill everyone else instead.
>>81125469
>>81125699
General Jodl stated at the IMT in Nuremberg on 4 June 1946:
“In 1935, when we set up 36 divisions, France, Poland, and Czechoslovakia
possessed 90 divisions for times of peace, and 190 divisions for war. We had
hardly any heavy artillery, and tank construction was in its earliest stages…
Real rearmament was only begun after the war had already started. We
entered into this world war with some 75 divisions. Sixty per cent of our total
able-bodied population had not been trained. The peacetime army amounted
to perhaps 400,000 men, as against 800,000 men in 1914. Our supplies of
ammunition and bombs were ridiculously low.
We had ammunition for 10 to 15 days of combat...
And if we did not collapse already in the year 1939 that was due only to the
fact that during the Polish campaign, the approximately 110 French and British
divisions in the West were held completely inactive against the 23 German
divisions.”15)
Moreover, these divisions were “ equipped with very little artillery and almost
no means at their disposal of any anti-tank defence”; furthermore, they were
immobile.16) Even if the territorial and the reserve divisions of the third and forth
“wave” are also added to the count, the American military historian T. Taylor
arrives at only 106 German divisions in the year 1939, while the French army
alone, including trained reserves and colonial troops, comprised an equal number
of divisions at the outbreak of war, but due to the level of training was stronger
than the German army.17) Moreover, to this have to be added the British, the Belgian
(23 divisions = 550,000 men) and the Dutch divisions which, combined with the
French divisions on the German front, came to 156, or rather, 142 divisions.18)
If he didn't wage war then the economy, infrastructure and all that fine and nice order would diminish, plus all the nasty shit the regime did would surface up.
Pretty similar to the US right now, without its "military operations" or whatever the establishment calls them, the economy would be in a lot worse state.
War beyond your own borders in generally pretty good for you actually.
