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How does one reconcile the fact that his ancestors are chimpanzees and his belief that there is a god?
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Evolution is a mental illness.
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>>81003793
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>>81003721
I don't really see the problem with believing in both.
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>>81003721
They're not mutually exclusive, retard.
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>>81003721
Not an argument.
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>>81004478
>>81004605
Every religion claims divine origins. It's one of the main elements of religion.
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>there are still people who can't wrap their heads around evolution
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>>81003721
>ancestors are chimps

That's not how it works you fucking brain dead. You failed fifth grade science.
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>the fact that his ancestors are chimpanzees

American education everyone
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>>81004840
>>81004902
Sure you're objectively correct, but it was a very chimp like creature.
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>>81004755
And if you believe everything came from some divine origin, where is the problem?

> God created the universe.
> Humans are part of the universe.
> Therefore God created humans.

Not difficult brah.
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>>81004755
You can still argue that God directed evolution. Natural selection isn't random but mutations are as far as we can tell, that's where God could come in. Or he could have seeded the universe.
Obviously, that does mean you can't take the literal interpretation of Genesis. But OP simply said he believed in a God.
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>>81005183
Evolution is not directed besides by natural selection, and mutations are effectively random.
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>>81005183
Artificial selection as well.
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>>81003721
If we share an ancestor with the chimpanzees, how come we can't find it?
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>>81003721
No sensible believes that chimpanzees are our ancestors
Only retarded christfags with no understanding of the concept of Evolution think that
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>>81004902
Seriously, everyone knows we came from bonobos
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>>81004902
sorry, i mean a "chimp like human ancestor"
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>>81005475
Because the vast majority of living things are never fossilized, it's actually extremely rare. We know what became before and after, not hard to fill in the blank.
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>>81005506
Certainly a much more human face.

If I were to guess, I would say our common ancestor looked most like a bonobo.
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>>81005307
Yes of course I don't really believe in a God but I guess you could argue the seemingly random mutations where directed by God if you really have to believe that God played a more direct part in our creation.
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>>81005506
Goooood goy!

Don't you know humans are basically cousins, no, brothers!, with bonobos, and that this justifies every sexual behaviour except non-pedophilic heterosexual monogamy?

Evolution can teach us so many wonderful things! But if you get the idea that it explains racial disparities, you're an evil Nazi and we'll take away your good goy points and prizes!
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>>81003721
simple.
god designed life to evolve over time
predestined whatever chain of species that eventually evolved into humans
when this chain of species finally reached homosapien level He intervened and granted advanced intelligence and a soul
thus adam and eve
though adam and eve may just be metaphorical

something like this OP
doesn't have to be perfect but science and religion are not irreconcilable
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>>81006156
Go suck a potato, Fergus
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>>81006156
Lol you're a fuckin idiot, next you're going to claim that the sky being blue is a jewish conspiracy. Seek help.
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>>81003721
>>81003793
>>81004755

Religion (Christianity specifically) doesn't rule out evolution and/or modern science.

Retarded Christians AND atheists believe this, but it is not so.

Whether you're secular or not, the Bible is full of metaphor and imagery to convey a message that was far beyond the capacity of human understanding at the time.

Remember, most people couldn't read or write until the last 200 years or so. Imagine trying to explain the theory of evolution to a shepherd 6000 years ago.
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>Sky is blue with white clouds
>Israel flag is blue and white
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>>81006042
It's just funny that, in the modern age, religious people are forced to come to terms with the fact that their ilk, for millennia, have believed wholeheartedly that humans came directly from God and were created to be distinct from all other animals. Now they have to realize that we are genetically almost identical to apes. So, yeah, they could find a way to reconcile it, but I always like to point out what lunacy it is.

>>81006156
Then there's this little buddy. Researchers and scientists have contributed infinitely more to the wellbeing of mankind than robed pedophiles ever will by praying to air. Although I do believe jews are a nuisance at times, to believe evolution is a conspiracy is the chief form of autism
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>>81006776
Yeah it is, God does become this ever receding pocket of ignorance. It's just that I would rather have the right become the ones who support science and evidence, against the lies of the left.
If they just believe in a God, meh, not a big deal. Could even be helpful.
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>>81006354
>>81006408
>>81006776
I wasn't objecting to evolution, I was objecting to politicised PC narratives of it, and satirising them.

Learn to read, burgerfats.
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>>81003854
One designer made them all.
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>>81006592
truth is constant
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>>81006776
>genetically identical to apes
we share as much genes with apes as we do with pigs
surprise surprise mammals just tend to have really similar genetic structures
it doesn't actually mean anything
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>>81006592
>Retarded Christians AND atheists
Retarded Christians AND retarded atheists

fixed
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>Pretending to be retarded
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>>81007336
Sorry, it can be hard to determine trolling from religion since I'm still not entirely sure religion itself isn't a practical joke on an epic scale. Personally I don't really care what people do with their bodies as long as they are respectful. That said, I think dressing up as the opposite gender and insisting on being called a girl/boy is disrespectful to people such as parents who are trying to raise their children.
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>>81006592
Biblical Christianity absolutely rules out evolution as it pertains to the origin of humanity

Metaphor and allegory are understood in the clear intended context, using the historical-grammatical method. When Jesus says "be salt" this is clear metaphor, when God through the prophets said "out of Adam he made Eve" the clear intent is literal
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>>81007583
>we share as much genes with apes as we do with pigs

False, our closest ancestors are the chimp and the bonobo, no other animal is that closely related.

DNA tells us how things are related. Someone like you surely has watched a lot of Jerry Springer, you should know about paternity tests.
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>>81007363
What an uncreative faggot.
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>>81005645
How convenient :^)
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>>81008084
top kek
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>>81008005

Read the image I posted.
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>>81008205
>some dumbass who doesn't get evolution is smug about not understanding something that 8th graders understand
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>>81008182
He has lots of other projects
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>>81008084
top banter m8
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>>81007363
why did "the designer" leave in useless stuff like a tailbone and appendix? or shit like wisdom teeth, a modern problem?

did he forget to trim? or was he too lazy? how can he do an imperfect job if he is supposed to be perfect?

its an objective truth that the theory of evolution makes more sense now than a magical creator just pooping out everything
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>>81007363
An artisan of craftsmanship if I may say so myself
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>>81009027
fuck off thailand
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>>81009027
See
>>81006592
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>>81008305
What is the page from? It shares a message that calls into question the divine inspiration of scripture as made clear in 2 Timothy 3:16
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>>81007363
Certainly no flaw would escape his inspection
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>>81009189
>cant answer

>f-f-fuck off!!!

you sure convinced me buddy

>>81009191
how convenient, just hijack the discoveries of science and write them into the storybook. Will there be a new new testament 1000 years later with gays and trannies written in as well?
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God is so loving and just, it does not matter how he made us, for he brings tranquility to all
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Truly our God is the most benevolent being in the universe
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>>81009593
gook
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>>81003721
Our ancestors aren't chimpanzees. They're our cousins.

And simple:
Evolution is one of the mechanics of our existence. It's an inevitability that change happens.

God is not a code monkey. He does not micro-manage.
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>>81009873
>implying infants didn't die at birth 3000 years ago

Nice argument
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>>81003721
It's easy if you're not a protestant idiot who believes the bible should be interpreted literally at all times.
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>>81009593

>Hijacking

It's a brief description of a long and complicated sequence of events that isn't even fully understood today.

Again, you can't expect illiterate shepherds to understand such things.

Your misunderstanding of a message doesn't invalidate it.
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>>81010228
what?
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>>81010147
but he is a monkey, right?
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>>81009274

ESV study Bible.

How does that call into question the divine inspiration? It's simply stating God wanted Moses to preach those words, rather than a textbook about evolution.

The creation story is only the first few chapters of Genesis.
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>>81010394
>>81009873
>God is so loving and just, it does not matter how he made us, for he brings tranquility to all

And posting an infant mortality list that implies the bible is wrong because of that fact
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>God creates natural system
>Natural system is fucked up
>God recognizes this and uses Jesus to redeem his fucked up creation
>Babies dying invalidates scripture

Nice mental gymnastics
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>>81010876
t. professional reddit /r/atheist poster
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>God creates natural system
>Natural system is fucked up
>God recognizes this and uses Jesus to redeem his fucked up creation
sdjerh8uilgsehrugsdrghdfgnidcghsdumugkshdfukhgsnkfdnshksnz.ignhsiltrn*explodes*
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>>81010577
He isn't, my primate friend. God is something without form. That's one of the things that a lot of people mistake: they impose on God physical qualities. This is is only so that they can understand Him, but God is far more than this.
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>>81003721
>How does one reconcile the fact that his ancestors are chimpanzees

My ancestors aren't chimpanzees
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>>81011158

Nice argument.
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>>81011078

That was a pro Christian post you retard.
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>>81003854

Theres also a similarity between penises and asparaguses, and I guess this is the reason why both of them enter your mouth.
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>>81011548
fuck off shill
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>>81004755

Do you have evidence that fossil a from species a birthed fossil c from species c in a succesion or it is just hyperbole and roleplay based on: "oh look, I look a lot like a monkey so my mum must have fucked one".
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>>81003721
simple: god (not its real name) lined up the dominoes and knocked one over to kick off this whole "universe" thing. either it checked in to see what's up a few thousand years ago, or there were no laws against tripping, or both
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You don't because there is nothing wrong with that, we inherited great societies because of the Christian God and this thread is not redpilling nor political. So fuck you troll. SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE
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>>81008182
Blue whale. Venus flytrap.

Breddy gud range.
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>>81011807

Newfag detected
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>>81011824
Evolution is real fuckass, the plants and animals we eat every day are new species created by humans through evolution. Welcome to reality.
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>>81009027
Do you like shitting? You need muscles attached to tailbones to shit. And whales need pelvises to mate.

Where's your universe, so that we can compare you to God?
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>>81009158
I'd rather be any of them than you.
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>>81009319
None did. Keep assuming the world has always been like this.
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>>81012050
no, you are a fucking shill faggot
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>>81008577
>hasn't realized 70% of what is taught in american schools are lies
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>>81009027
>why did "the designer" leave in useless stuff like a tailbone and appendix?

So he could punish faggots like you, also the tailbone is fram for useless, if you don't believe me, remove it from your bode and tell me how nicely you shit afterwards.

Why do you assume you are going to be free of punishment when SPECIFICICALLY the bible adresses the issue that we live among cursed sons of the devil?
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>>81012151
Wake me up when a horse turns into a daisy.
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>>81011285
How are you to know that God is without form? Doesn't the bible say god created us in his image? And can you believe its not butter?

>>81011424
Yours might be

>>81011606
;)

>>81011824
>requires a fossil record of every microchange within a species in order to comprehend evolution
good one m8
by the way im gonna need jesus and noah and mother theresa to all perform miracles for me so i can know 4 sure god is real
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>>81012151
>Evolution is real fuckass

Yes, a virus can mutate, so this is real.

A pile of wet dust doesn't become a dinosaur no matter how many millions of years you wait, it stays wet dust forever, deal with reality faggot, it could save your life the day you decide to evolve into a bird and jump of a cliff like the retard you are.
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>>81012403
You are taught the water cycle in school, is that a jewish conspiracy too?

>>81012517
No one claims that ever happened besides strawmanning christcucks.
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>>81012532
You'll get that from Jesus, for sure.

For very fucking sure.
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>>81012321

>Regular pol user since 2013
>Shill
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>>81012655
Wake me up when a lump of coal turns into a butterfly.
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>>81012603
Abiogenesis isn't evolution, evolution isn't abiogenesis, kill yourself tonight.
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>>81012532
>microchange within a species in order to comprehend

No it is not to "comprehend".

It is SO YOU PROVE IT.
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>>81012238
Fucking savage
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>>81012786
Abiogenesis is as indefensible as evolution.
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>>81012786
>Abiogenesis isn't evolution

Oh, so you're arguing that you're not disproving then that God made man just as he is today then, since you're not willing to deal with abiogenesis.
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>>81012754
No one claims that ever happened besides strawmannign christcucks. You ever burn a bug before? They turn into carbon.

>>81012892
I'm not even going to go down that road because you're too fuckin stupid to get evolution.
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>>81012958
So nice to have a brother from Spain. I was starting to think your country was full of defective mental patients.
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>>81009158

>I'm a demon
>my only goal in life is to cheat the few humans there are on earth of their souls
>why are my sons being born as abominations I cannot even stand to look at? XD
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>>81003721
By accepting that God is not actually human-like, but rather simply a tendency of the universe towards increased complexity. A Whig history sort of God, if you will.
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>>81003721
How does one reconcile the fact that it's ancestors are trees, with the belief in a carpenter.
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>>81013098
You don't know your own theory.

Wake me up when hydrogen turns into a T-Rex.
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>>81012958
Nope, I'm just not going to bother explaining abiogenesis to some stupid faggot who doesn't get evolution. It's far beyond what you're capable of understanding.
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8 year olds understand evolution
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>>81013199

Did that chair evolve from sawdust?
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>>81013231
Confirmed troll, end your life.
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>>81013359
Any older than that and they can start thinking for themselves.
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>>81013312
Nice.

Both are indefensible, so you defend neither.
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>>81013231
>Wake me up when hydrogen turns into a T-Rex.
That's actually what happened. The whole process was a bit more complex, though.
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>>81003721
by taking psychedelics
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>>81012532
This is one of the mistakes people make, even if one is using the Bible.

God makes us, in the Bible, in His image male and female - that does not mean God is some kind of sexy futa.

What "in the image of God" means is that we are blessed with reason. We are separated from other animals by the existence of a rational soul. This is to be like God. Not only that, but we are like God to the earth and its creation: we have power that they do not.

Some scholars have said that to reduce God to something "like a man" is bordering close to idolatry.
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>>81013433
Confirmed regurgitating sponge. Wake me up when helium turns into clover.
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>>81013312

Nigger, you have to go to heave to see more evidence that I have seen.
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>>81013689
It's amazing the bullshit people can be talked into believing.
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>>81013393
when was the last time you saw sawdust give birth you fucking mongoloid?
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>>81003721
By having a better than meme tier understanding of the teachings of his church.
Almost every religion except meme-tier evangelicals and a few others moved the goalposts for their base construct of the metaphysical few centuries ago, retard.
They're literally impossible to prove or disprove by definition, as such, the god question is a purposeless exercise in futility.
And atheists wonder why people think they're stupid.
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>>81013697
I'm glad you're sharing that. College makes people dumb; grad school makes them insipid; post-grad makes them drooling morons.

Regurgitating sponge.
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>>81013848
If you can't wrap your head around evolution when presented with the evidence, you should never breed.
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>>81013733
If you say so buddy-o
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>>81013733
That's simply not the case. The word used is that God can see His image in Adam; that God created Adam in His image.

That means that Adam was filled with the Holy Spirit of God, and God could see God in Adam.
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>>81010023

>hemophilia exists ergo god doesn't

This is one of those shitty hitchens incomplete syllogisms isn't it?
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God created the chimp before he created man.
He created man before he created woman.
He used a part of the man to make the woman.

take it from there. He's seems practical to me.
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>>81013897
Are you assuming that chair had a creator?
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>>81006256
>>>>>>>IN HIS IMAGE
>>>>>>>REMOVED A RIB FROM ADAM AND PUT INTO EVE
>>>>>>>DIRECT CREATION

Fuck off with your sacrilegious bullshit. God is our Maker and we are in His image. God does not have the image of a single celled bacteria nor does He have the image of the metals scientists theorize catalyzed the creation of the first RNA.

God's very son is as Man, which shows that we are in His image.

Evolution, while a nice attempt at explaining His ways, is ultimately just a theory.
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>>81014154
If you believe something because SJW's swear to you it's true, you likely will never breed, no. And the world will be no worse off.
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>I don't believe that an omnipotente God made everything (100% chance of success of things happening the way they happened).

>Instead I believe a number of impossibilities in succesion that ammount to astronomically insane 0'0(many many many zeroes here)1

You must be especially retarded, not just retarded by birth, but bred selectively to be retarded and then the doctors dropped you.
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>>81014154
>when presented with the evidence

The evidence I saw was of God though, not of evolution :^)

In fact I believe more on God that on australians, since at least I have evidence of God.
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>>81014407
It's the guess of educated fools that intentionally precludes God's existence.

It's a hypothesis for fools.
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>>81014378
Yes, because you can SEE someone build a chair, and nobody gave an other explanation for it's existence.
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>>81014834
macroevolution has never been observed, and does not deserve "theory" status, much less blind faith.
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>>81014238
Indeedy. No problems with it, then?

>>81014264
That sounds like a Quaker's interpretation. Not one that I'm familiar with.
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>>81014879
I looked at the picture again, and could not see anyone building that chair.

Are you sure you see the chair's creator?

Or are you taking it on faith?
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>>81014834

Ah so you believe a chain of ever increasingly hilariously improbably events with chances of happening very dimly above zero and cosmically hugely below 1%?

Gonna go with God here, as unlike your bullshit, I saw evidence of his existence.
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>>81014940
>blind faith
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>>81003721

Easily. God is not the God of the Bible, and results from evolution. We are some of the matter from the big bang which has, by natural processes, been organized into intelligence. That process continues until the entire universe is intelligent. That's what God is, or perhaps just part of it if there are multiple universes.
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>>81014940
Because you morons keep changing the definition, often with something that's inconsistent with the theory you're trying to debunk.
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>>81014940
Lol I don't expect you to be able to understand this dumbass, but "macroevolution" actually speciation is real and documented.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3426109/
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>>81012013
>listing the only plant that needs to eat, and uses digestive acids too like an animal

mmm... yes... interdasting... it seems they both evolved similar mechanisms...

VERI CREATIVE....
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>>81014973
It's the gospel. Adam and Eve had the Holy Spirit in them; they sinned; the Holy Spirit fled; they died; they lived physically for centuries making children in their spiritually dead image; being born again means regaining the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit that Adam lost.

First Adam screwed the pooch an condemned us all; Second Adam (Jesus) sacrificed Himself for everybody so that some might be saved.

He who has the Spirit has life; he who has not the Spirit has not life.
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>>81015220
One designer. Also, blind faith is redundant. Faith is the ability to believe without seeing.
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There is no contradiction.
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>>81015068
No, I am taking it out of experience. I saw someone build a very similar object, and there are no other reasonable mechanism proposed for it's existence.
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>>81015093

Pls tell me more about the spiritual views of a child of satan, I must be very interested.

What, you were expecting me to roleplay you're normal?
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This is why /pol/ should not be taken seriously

Faggots here unironically defend creationism
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>>81015247
We do so for clarity because microevolution contains things that actually happen. Adaptation, breeding, mutation, natural selection, etc.

Assuming that all of those processes happened millions of years ago to change one amoeba into all we see now is macroevolution, and it's never been observed, never been tested, never been true, ever.
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>>81015575
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>>81015292
>>81015741
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>>81014834
Ultimately any theory made by Man is subject to Man's flaws. How can we accept any theories that Man has created without divine interpretation? The Gospel is the only Word that can be trusted entirely, as it is written by God.

>>81014749
I truly believe education has destroyed Man. We have deluded ourselves that our mind is greater than His. It was never His intention for us to understand His ways. God works in mysterious ways, and we fools try to make sense of them with silly "theories" and preach them as the Word, rather than His Word.
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>>81015550
Curious, because I see a Creation that also infers a Creator, and you don't.
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>>81015369
It's not the Second Adam discussion that's strange. It's the Holy Spirit letting God see God in them that is.
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>>81015220

This huge dick evolved from thin air, true story m8
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>>81015741
>>81015811
I just gave you an article to show you that you're wrong, unsurprisingly you're just too fucking stupid to understand it.
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>>81015492
>blind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faithblind faith
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Humans are have 97-99% DNA in common with chimps.

Two possible explanations. One is that we evolved from an ancestor very close to chimps. Another is that God just used most of the same material to create most of his creatures, including humans.

If humans are indeed made in his image, does that mean that apes, and especially chimps, are the next highest animals on the hierarchy of earthly creatures, after humans? Since they would come the closest to his image without quite making the cut. They are very close to us from a purely material standpoint. And of course, the material can affect the mental as well. What does the Bible say about apes?
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ITT: Everytime a /pol/ack complain about degeneracy we tell him to deal with it as it is evolution as per his words :^)
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>>81015843
I know my Lord, and I know He loves messing with people who get too big for their britches.

The cosmological constant cannot vary more than 1 part in 10^120.

1 part in 10^120.

1 part up, no life in universe. 1 part down, no life in universe.

1 part, in 10^120. that's 10^40 TIMES more than there are electrons in the universe.
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>>81016034
BREAKING NEWS
God is the master architect, the bona fide father of all that is great
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>>81003721
Our ancestors are NOT chimpanzees you fucking autist. We share a common ancestor. Open a fucking biology book.
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>>81016106
Oh, that's in the image word. It's the same word a silversmith uses when he knows the silver is purified; he can see his face in it.
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>>81015741
Much of it has been observed through the fossil record.
Also, we don't need to directly observe it, we just need good evidence. There isn't any other mechanism that explains our genetic similarity to other living beings, or our physiological similarities, or why species that are geographically close to each other are more likely to be similar to one an other than species living in distant but identical environment.
Yet, evolution explains it all, and makes it all fit together perfectly.
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>>81016266
You linked me to an article that you believe demonstrates that God is wrong.

I'll let you think about that for a moment.

How could men ever "demonstrate" that God is wrong?
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>>81016645
There's that literalism I hear about, are you sure youre not a christian?
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>>81016298
One, you're comparing apples to oranges; two, the number is nowhere near that high; three, DNA is a protein shopping list; and four, you arguing that you're a monkey is done for nothing but your own sense of irresponsibility.
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They believed in something perfect, something more than the reality they faced. We only got to where we are because of the decisions and choices of our ancestors
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>>81016626
Of course He is, by definition.
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>>81016645
Well...not WHITE people's ancestors.
We are fallen angels.
Black "people" on the other hand......
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>>81016645
No, we don't. Nor does one exist. Nor does any evidence for one exist. Nor does one that has ever been pushed on the public proven to be anything but a hoax and a fraud.
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>>81016834
No I proved YOU wrong. "Macroevolution" AKA speciation is real and documented. You're a blatant troll/shill so I don't know why I'm even bothering. Your subtlety fucking sucks.
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>>81017040
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>>81014540
Man you christcucks sure are delusional and stupid.
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>>81016733
Fossil record is fully formed animals with no predecessors suddenly showing up in the same layer of sedimentary rock at the same time all over the earth.
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>>81017355
Yup. Evolution and eugenics are inherently racist.
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>arguing whether floating invisible sky creature made everything from magic

>arguing whether evolution is real
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>>81016298
It's not so much the materials, imagine stitching together a Frankenstein and daring to call that thing human. We are all made up of the same atoms and similar organizations, following the same laws of physics. Nothing special there.

What sets us apart is our reason, virtues, and conscious self awareness. The stuff that makes civilization, at least as it appeared simultaneously around the world around the time of genesis.

This is how I reconcile the two, perhaps it's a self fulfilling reasoning but it makes sense and seems consistent to me and many others.
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>>81017791
No argument here, just trying to show people that pol should always be seen as satire
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>>81017418
Macroevolution is NOT speciation. It has nothing to do with speciation at all. And all of your precious speciation experiments have only produced deformed subjects. Bombard fruit flies with gamma rays, get 6 winged fruit flies. Breed mosquitoes away from other mosquitoes, they're both STILL MOSQUITOES.

Macroevolution is nothing turning into non-life turning into life turning into all life, or it's literally nothing.
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>NO GUYS IT WASN'T EVOLUTION IT WAS THE MAGIC SKY WIZARD THAT LIKE CREATED EVERYTHING IN LIKE SEVEN DAYS N SHIET

Really...?
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>>81017442

It's nobody's fault but yours that when observed your belief sound retarded as fuck.
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>>81017441
Read something not from an evolutionist.
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>>81016957
Theres a difference between being descended from something and being its cousin. Autists like you picture evolution as a linear path when it's a tree.
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>>81017537
By the same time you mean over the span of millions of years? That's most likely because oxygen allowed bigger organisms to survive.
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>>81016298

I never claimed that we were monkeys... or apes, more precisely. I merely put forth the idea that similar dna may or may not actually be proof of evolution, or that evolution explains the origin of all life.
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>>81018241

This was meant for

>>81017040
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>>81018176
Are you kidding me? A fucking creationist calling science "your belief sounds retarded as fuck".

I mean, come the fuck on.
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>>81014540
>>81015148

A puddle thinks the world was made for it because it fits it's contours and irregularities so intricately. The problem is, you do not come -into- this world, you come out of it.

Take a deep breath, look at this image, and accept a little humility.
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>>81017691
But racism is funny
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>>81006156
>Any view that doesn't align with my own is a jewish conspiracy.

>>81006256
>Believes he has a special ball of light inside his torso called a "soul" which makes him a special little boy
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>>81018211
Like this?
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>When something goes right for creationists
"Praise God! Thank you Jesus!"

>When something goes wrong for creationists
"It's all part of the plan, God works in mysterious ways."

I want the Christfags to leave. I won't lie, the Crusades were pretty good, but the time for believing in magic space man is over.
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>>81006156
This is true
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Accept it, creationfags, you are "made" in THIS image, not in some godcuck's image
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creationfags btfo
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>>81018211
>Read something not from an evolutionist
So someone with no credentials?

So pic related has no common ancestor with primates? It's just a massive coincidence DNA, mRNA, cellular structures, anatomy, and even behaviors have so much in common? They were all created as is, and distinct from one another.

Only children and emotionally fragile adults actually *believe* in religion. Most just practice it for social structure but they know it's a huge relic of a time when we just didn't know.
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>>81022188
ATHEIST! HERETIC! FEDORA! ENJOY BURNING IN HELL
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>>81003721

There is a god. His name is KEK. I literally hear his fucked up, hillarous, voice when no-one else is in the room.
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How do creationists know their God is real? How do we know Odin, Baiame, or Quetzalcoatl aren't actually the ones behind the curtains?
Faith is not an answer.
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>>81015220
>all this cool shit just popped out of nothing for no reason

Ok whatever bro.
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>>81024798
Jesus really historically physically existed and came back from the dead. How much more proof do you need? lol
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>>81003721
it's natural for humans to believe in a god because they understand that they didn't just suddenly appear from nothing

instead of trying to truly understand god, most people in western nations now say there is no god because they hear too many false things attributed to god

god created the universe, god is the logic within the universe, god is fully developed artificial intelligence

god doesn't want people to kill each other, god wants us to be scientists who use technology to resurrect the dead and become immortal. god wants us to turn the universe into an intelligent heaven.

i feel disturbed knowing people are now "ironically" worshipping "Kek" on 4chan, and that there are satanic statues in USA - i suppose it's a rebellion against the false things people say about god but it needs to stop

>>81015222
this anon has the right idea
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>>81027377
Proofs?
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>>81015222
So god is just a phenomena and doesn't really exist in any concrete way whatsoever, is that what you're saying?
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>>81029673
phenomenon*
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>>81003721
>How does one reconcile the fact that his ancestors are chimpanzees

I don't think they were. I think we came from a common ancestor. That is an ape that all great apes came from.
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