I was going to make a Deutschefaden about this, but my German isn't quite good enough to discuss topics like this.
Hearing stories of people being sent to jail and shit for not having left wing views honestly terrifies me. I am embarrassed to have German heritage due to the extreme level of censorship that goes on there. And to think I was considering moving there.
What is your opinion, German bros?
>I am embarrassed to have German heritage
Ethnic German here with ancestry in Upper Austria, Bavaria, Saxony and Prussia. I feel that Germany is traitorous to its people and is a force for German extinction.
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Ethnic German with ancestry in Upper Austria, Saxony, Bavaria and Prussia here. I am always proud of my German heritage. Never ever be ashamed of it. I feel that Bundesrepublik is a anti-German treasonous force that should be purged with lustration for all current state officials.
I didn't see that my fisrt comment went through
>>80969527
>>80969960
>>80970028
Hello, Ivan.
>>80969527
>>80969960
>>80970028
>>80969870
You Sir deserve a nomination for shitpost of the year.
>>80970103
Why do you Wessie fags always call pure bred Germans Russians, just because they were born in the Soviet Union/Russian Federation? Blood is blood.
>>80969518
Get out, Merkel
>>80970556
Volga German, East Prussian, or just from later German immigrants?
>>80969518
Volkdeutscher mit Preußischen Vorfahren hier. Kein Deutscher hat einen Recht zu leben, und um die Welt zu bessern soll Deutschland sich abschaffen.
>>80968491
Three years ago, a guy was imprissioned here for selling books (literally)
And a couple of years ago, 40 people were sentenced to prison for doing leafleting, speaches and YouTube videos (hate speech)
We have been like Germany for years, but nobody gives a fuck about us.
We can theoretically wave an swastica on the Street, but actually, a mob of anti fascists would come and beat you to death.
>>80971393
Might be because Germany is a tad more important than Spain. Your time has been and gone bruv. Have fun with British tourists trashing up your country.
>>80970897
Don't quite understand the question. I have ancestors from all over the Russian Empire. Some lived in the Baltics, some in the principality of Finand, some in Saint-Petersburg, some in the Volga settlement.
>>80968491
Could we please just ignore Germany? It's too embarassing to be reminded of its existence.
It's OK as long as you don't reveal your power level.
Elections are still secret meaning nobody will know it was you who made the cross at AfD.
Persecution of justified worries just means they will be surprised at the next federal elections. (autumn 2017)
>>80971393
Is it though? I walked around in the Falangist uniform during the Catalonian referendum of 2014 in 7-10the November with a banner "Catalanidad Es Hispanidad". All good.
>>80971938
I was asking where your German heritage originates from.
>>80972025
Sorry man. It was just that watching the nation I love get turned to shit genuinely hurts.
>>80972235
Upper Austria - surname is from there
Bavaria
Prussia
Saxony
That were the Lands and ethnicities of my German ancestors who moved to the Russian Empire.
>>80971700
Fair enough.
I still care about other europeans though. I would gladly help germans if I could do something for them.
But I interact with them when I go to the canary islands (And with other northern europeans too) and they are just not interested on those things. They think they are fine. So, it's hard to help someone when the problem lies inside him.
They only concern seems to be wasting their money on the restaurants near the beach and have "fun"
>>80972171
It depends on the situation.
Falangists are tolerated for historical reasons, and because they can use them to ridicule the right.
>>80971393
You guys should have let the leftists win in the civil war. The world would be a different place if people saw leftists burning nuns. Just like how US intervention in Vietnam overshadowed communist repression in the North and South of the country.
>>80969527
Do you call yourself "german" in russia? I'm ethnic polish in germany btw.
Bavaria flag best flag
>>80972728
I call myself a German in Australia. Don't see why he'd be any different.
>>80968491
The issue is that most of this stupid fucks who were arrested wrote stupid shit like "Gas them" or put them into "trains". Denial of the Holocaust and using nazi slurs or symbols is forbidden by federal law.
>>80972636
Actually, as much as I hate communism, I often wish the soviet unión marched all the way down to Spain.
Be sure today we would have a different europe.
Capitalism has proven to be more harmful for identities than communism, as contradictory as it sounds. And this is not a discussion on the theoretical plain...It has been proved by experience. Look at the east of europe, or compare the west of Germany with the east...
>>80972852
bcuz russia is kill
>>80972938
>Denial of the Holocaust and using nazi slurs or symbols is forbidden by federal law.
And you don't see any problems with that? They brainwashed you good.
>>80972938
Buuuuuuuuuuut when a factual based, critical opinion on mass integration, jews, whatever, is labeled as hate crime the real problem starts.
It has just begun, but it is clear that they want to construct a totalitarian thought prison.
These are the first steps.
>>80968491
>people being sent to jail and shit for not having left wing views
If you mean advocating murder of minorities or brown people based on racism, yeah you can shove that shit right back up your ass.
Germany's fine, unless you're an open racist and fascist, but no one wants those people anyway so they can get fucked. I couldn't care less for people who want to overthrow our democracy or murder people because of their mental illness pissing themselves now because they discover the internet is not a bubble without laws and they can be held accountable for the dumb shit they write.
>>80970436
It's not fair, Anon wins every year.
>>80973184
>hurr durr i am a great spaniard stupid cucked german hurr durr
> le nazis were the good guys meme
I don't let anyone brainwash me, josè.
Fuck every faction in WW2.
>>80973368
>but no one wants those people anyway
What do you mean with "nobody"? Last time I checked they were several thousands, who are you to take over the country and decide how it should be?
>>80973198
>racists
>ever factual
You're funny.
>>80973659
He is one of the assholes of the establishment who never have to deal with the brown people they let into the country, so it's OK for them to shove forced tolerance down our throats.
Don't worry, when the day comes, they'll be the first ones to be put up against the walls. Even before brown people.
>>80973618
> i am a great spaniard stupid cucked german
If you check above, I already said the situation in Spain is not better than in Germany
But as someone pointed, Spain is by no means as important as Germany. Germany has always been the center of europe, and thats why they are focusing on destroying it.
> le nazis were the good guys meme
Definitely better than the allies, for what I have seen during my life. Maybe they were as evil as someone can be, but that I will never know, since you don't want to let everybody speak out their minds.
>I don't let anyone brainwash me, josè.
You already did.
>>80973659
>what are elections
Nobody votes for racist fucks here, so yeah, nobody wants that garbage.
>>80972728
I call myself German everywhere I go. I'm going to become an Austrian citizen this Novemner actually. I never called myself Russian. Never will.
>>80972852
Are you born to two German immigrants to Australia? What's the story?
>>80973019
So you would be a shit hole but at least it would be a white shit hole.
>>80969518
Are you by any change the Eternal Anglo posting kraut?
Similar level of autism and unfunny memes.
>>80973869
Got a small dick or something?
>meine Allmachtsfantasien
Pathetic.
>>80969870
true to your flag. don't try too hard next time
Hey Germany can you do what you do best and depopulate NRW?
I'm close to the border and the caliphate so close to my home is worrying.
Thanks in advance.
>>80973689
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/racism
if you call Islam an ideology and you can prove it via historical and scripture evidence, while being aware of muh 1400 years of cultural development, and in the end your argument is dismissed as "das racist", do you think thats fair?
>>80973368
>unless you're an open racist and fascist
>facist
>THINK LEFT LIKE US OR GO TO JAIL
>implying we're not living under left fascism now
It's like 1933 again, just on the left side of the pendulum. It will only get worse from now on.
>>80974258
>tfw NRW
I see every day ethnicities i never knew existed and hear languages i never heard before.
>>80974258
>depopulate NRW
Sorry. It's a quater of Germany and if it were its own state, it would still be among the five biggest in the EU.
>>80974055
Elections are rigged in Germany. Well known fact. NPD would have gotten almost 23% in 1969 and 17% minimum in 1990 if votes were counted honestly.
>>80974110
Mum is a German immigrant. She grew up in West Berlin. Her father escaped from East Berlin when it was commie. Dad is an English immigrant, however I have disassociated myself from his family because they're all cunts. They have refused to even acknowledge my Mum and Dad's relationship because Mum is Catholic and my Dad's family are Anglican.
>>80973368
>Germany's fine, unless you're an open racist and fascist, but no one wants those people anyway so they can get fucked
Freedom of speech dies with the first restriction, cuckold.
>>80973945
> You already did.
Did i ever say, that i think this law is useful or right, no. You just assumed that i support the law.
Who is brainwashed by stromfront?!
> Definitely better than the allies
Nobody was better, they were all inhuman bastards who wanted to make some shekels.
>>80974522
I can imagine the suffering.
Last time I was there it felt like being in Amsterdam. Horrifying.
>>80974328
Who cares about fair? I don't even know where this came from now. There's enough people who argue like you do, difference to you is probably that they don't go racist retard and say all Muslims want that or are like that.
From my experience, most Muslims don't know shit about their retarded religion. And they're usually dumb as fuck and have not reflected on their bullshit much.
The state doesn't tolerate or accept extremists. There is no shariah on the horizon or anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHxRuLT4FIE
57:00 - 1:03:00
Watch it!
>>80974995
>difference to you is probably that they don't go racist
What race is Islam?
>>80974665
Cool story, gopnik.
>>80974995
> difference to you is probably that they don't go racist retard and say all Muslims want that or are like that.
Where did i say all muslims, Bernd?
There are some modern thought schools in Islam, they are allright.
But, i dont appreciate the construction the next Saudi financed Faysal-II-Mosque.
Or the Gülen Movement.
>>80974780
I really don't get anything out of a fucking Russian of all people to lecture me on anything relating to democracy or free speech, so kindly take your polyester pants and squat elsewhere. :DDDD
>>80975202
>German and Upper Austrian aristocracy
>gopnik
Pick one, bullpreper.
>>80974995
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schublade
People always say I look German. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
>>80975533
Not an argument, cuckold.
>Russian
See
>>80974110
>>80972472
>>80971938
>>80970556
>>80975416
I said probably, not that you did. You're the one complaining after all.
In regards to the mosques, take it up with your local politicians I guess. I doubt they're happy about any extremist community propping itself up in their district.
>>80974995
>most Muslims don't know shit about their retarded religion
And that's actually pretty bad. If they would actually read their fucking rapist book once, they would realize how they are supporting the undermining of western society principals. They don't have to actively kill people to do so, they only have to support their little, segregated communities. Islam is an ideology of violence, slavery and conquest.
Anyone who takes that religion over being a european should have no right to stay here.
>>80971001
Stop using google translator to sound german, faggot
>>80974665
[citation needed]
>>80975566
Yeah I'll go with gopnik then, your royal aristocratic highness of the joint Aldi Lidl parking lot.
>>80976037
> The state doesn't tolerate or accept extremists. There is no shariah on the horizon or anything.
You are right, but some arm of the state uses extremists to establish a authoritarian/totalitarian state.
That's what i am against, and i think this is just.
Nothing more.
http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/schwere-vorwuerfe-im-nsu-prozess-verfassungsschutz-soll-nazi-trio-im-untergrund-finanziert-haben_id_3993729.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1XLopxuxvs
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celler_Loch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0a0khWVnug
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(allegation)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension
How long do you Germans think it will take Bavaria to form a separationist movement? Not form an independent state but to use it as a leverage in Berlin?
>>80973368
soon, whites in germany will be a minority, and your family will be constantly raped by niggers, then you'll see why we need those people with "racist views"
Meanwhile in Austria:
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/oesterreich-hassprediger-101.html
ISIS-preacher imprisoned for 20 years. Would've preferred the death penalty, especially public, but hey, it's way better than what happens here.
>>80977404
Bavaria is the biggest taxpayer in germany, Mutti Merkel would never let them go.
Because, who else would pay for all the refugees?
The third generation turks dealing with drugs in NRW and Berling?
>>80976037
You just don't understand the grave situation we are in.
>>80976037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q0qau8f0w8
>>80977404
The CSU (CDU's Bavarian sister party) / Seehofer tried that a little, made himself look like a retard and pretty much failed.
>>80968491
I'm glad I'm no germ too.
>>80977631
Uh huh. Glad you got this 'internet' in your favela, hueman.
>>80977935
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:C:1990:324:FULL&from=DE
>>80975026
>Kurt Lewin
>>80975672
Why do they say that, are you constantly handcuffed?
>>80978094
Look up Page 214.
>>80978094
yeah, i got it because i work hard and can pay for it, not like you, muhammad, that gets it for free out of taxpayers money
>>80978196
Page 214!!!!!
>>80978094
Maybe i am right in the end?
>>80973689
>they have other opinions than me!
>we have to send them to jail because "muh hate speech!"
Fascist
>>80968491
>What is your opinion, German bros?
I believe, personally, that pol likes to take things out of context and blows them out of proportion.
The issued search warrants were made in response to facebook posts so really these idiots had it coming spewing that stuff on a platform just about anyone can access easily.
This wasn't even IP searches or anything, these people posted that stuff online with their names attached to it.
Personally I work for a government ministry and I'm a member in a non-leftist party - no problem at all.
>>80977913
Sorry, I don't watch conspiracy retards.
>>80978407
Ach please, I'm no Muhammad.
>>80972164
so, AfD might get 20-30%, if we are really lucky, and then what? Merkel with just continue to wreck this country with her great coalition or cdu+spd+grüne at worst
elections won't change shit at this point
>>80977817
>>80977935
Precisely because they are the ones keeping Germany afloat, they could, given they elect someone capable, force Berlin to take foot from the pedal. I think they will be the first ones from "respectable" part of Germany to start real changes.
>>80978807
>> cdu+spd+grüne
Don't fucking remind me.
>>80976685
Ever seen gopniks who dress like this?
>>80977404
There is the Bayern Partei (Bavarian Party) but they are rather obscure right now - even though they won some seats in the local city councils etc.
>>80979143
Best they can do is to drive CSU to a anti-Islamic pro-ethnic Bavarian&Germab stance and form coalition with Bavarian AfD. CSU has potential and tribal vote.
>>80979343
> form coalition with Bavarian AFD
Why would they want to do that? CSU has the majority in Bavaria, they don't need a coalition.
>>80975533
still you can't disprove the notion that free speech dies with the very first restriction. BRD is not a free country.
>>80979475
To give a signal that AfD is a force for good in Germany and that Bavaria takes a stand.
>>80979766
I beg you pardon, but that won't happen, no party in the history of our Republic has ever entered a coalition when they didn't need to.
They can endorse them or work together with them in the Bavarian parliament - that would send enough of a signal for starters.
However if the CSU fails to achieve a majority then things may get interesting.
>>80979766
thats not how german politics work, sadly
>>80979766
Well, the AfD isn't, unless you're some deluded aristogopnik on 4chan who babbles about 'pro ethnic' stuff.
>>80978578
Okay, do you dismiss everything above as conspiracy retardation?
Is corbrett a conspiracy nut?
Kinda.
Can you take some truth out of it?
Yes.
Nimm's mir nicht übel, aber besonders viel Mühe gibst du dir auch nicht.
Yes.
>>80979543
I guess I just don't feel restricted because I'm
- not an angsty racist who has mental issues
- not calling for the death of anyone
- not intentionally insulting anyone publically
- not inciting hatred
Poor, poor racists who feel threatened. Those poor racist fucks, aw.
>>80980069
Wir können auch vor die Tür gehen und reden :^)
>>80980322
Ich bin auf nem 8 zoll handy und lad mir keine 200+ Seiten runter damit sich am Ende rausstellt, dass das Dokument deine Fantasien nicht stuetzt oder nur ueber 30 Ecken des Wahns. Ich kenn euch Spinner zur Genüge.
>>80980596
Jetzt beruhigt euch aber beide mal.
Ist ja kaum auszuhalten.
>>80980449
It's a matter of a right, I wouldn't expect someone with no passion for freedom to understand that. Those who march with "No tears for Krauts", "Thank you, bomber Harris" on the 17th of February get no punishment whatsoever. Those who March with "Abolish Germany" get no punishment. I can go on with double standards of authoritarian BRD.
>>80980012
That's how they should work. Championing and advocating righteous is a very essence of the Teutonic spirit.
>>80979926
Who said we should stick to it? BRD is a failure, it's political traditions are failure.
>>80980596
Just stop responding to this retard, shows ob every day on /pol/ with the same shitty bait. There's clearly no reasoning with him.
>>80980958
>> BRD is a failure
BRD is the longest standing State in German history, I'm sorry but that does hardly sound like a failure to me.
I think some Germans (and also foreigners) take a lot of things about this German state for granted!
>>80980675
Das Dokument ist ein offizielles Amtsblatt der EU, abrufbar über das Eulex. Damit du nicht 200 Seiten durchforsten musst, hab ich dir extra die betreffende Seite angegeben ( 214 ).
Findest du, dass du sonderlich fair argumentierst?
>>80981159
It's time to destroy it so everyone would know the value of BRD. Or at least it looks like some of your politicians have this attitude.
>>80980754
Oh you poor aristogopnik, did the people in black hurt your nazi nostalgia?
They get some demonstrations cancelled and its members regularly clubbed and arrested by police so really, most of the time I have no idea what you dumb racists are talking about when you make these dumb claims.
>>80981410
Das ist ganz toll, dass du von Spinnern tolle Links wiederkauen kannst, ohne überhaupt selbst zu wissen, was du überhaupt damit sagen willst. Werd glücklich mit deinem tollen, offiziellen Dokument.
>ich dachte die NWO verheimlicht alles und dann kann ich mir wieder was offizielles laden? Sagenhaft und gar nich reichlich bescheuert.
>>80981857
Hey, how do you explain how in your perfect leftist utopia that muslims can go around raping, robbing, and beating and not get deported?
>>80968491
I don't like those laws at all, but they have been in place since after WW2, and were implemented by the allies. They go far beyond the typical "call to murder or violence" that is illegal in almost any country.
Here is what §130 (Volksverhetzung) punishes:
>attacks the human dignity of a religious, ethnic or other group of people in a way that is able to endanger public safety
>insults a religious believe in a way that is able to endanger public safety
You can clearly see the problem here, right? The definition is really muddy and can apply to almost anything, especially the term "endanger public safety", and "attack human dignity" can twisted in any way one likes. It really depends on the judge. Of course, stupid verdicts will be sacked in higher instances, but nobody would want to risk a long unclear process.
Now, would there be a reason to say something bad about a whole group of people? Maybe when you plan on taking in millions of them and need to discuss whether they are a problem or danger?
Guess what, when you can't openly partake in that discussion without consulting a lawyer or double-checking any of your statements for "problematic content", then your freedom is speech is restricted heavily. Especially the opinions that are unliked need to be protected by the law, to allow for proper democratic discussion. Any country with true freedom of speech like the US understands this and actively protects that right.
>>80978799
you're no german either
