https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BTGTntifabI
We don't need soldiers to oppress and police us. If you feel you are "at war" with the American people and feel so threatened that you shoot at every opportunity you are legally allowed, YOU SHOULD NOT BE A COP.
This fag made an interesting video about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq6O5pzyMKs
>>80961180
A consequence of Diversity, a diverse population requires a Military to enforce the peace, other wise the violence will become unmanagble, I can't believe anyone thought diversity wouldn't have consequences.
Well if people that were committing the vast majority of the crime would settle the fuck down, the police would do the same.
Pro tip: it's not white people.
>>80961397
This.
You can have homogeneous population and peace, or diversity and a police state. Pick wisely.
>>80961364
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UsRV3y37qcs
Ben Swann did a good one and has an even better one on The Origin of ISIS
>>80961397
*a diverse population requires the 2nd amendment to keep the peace sir
>implying shitskins would be a problem if you just let the law abiding white citizens defend themselves
>>80961580
So don't go into situations that facilitate chimping out. If black communities complain about police brutality, you don't come back the next day with more weaponry and a lighter trigger pull, YOU PULL OUT AND DISARM YOURSELVES (reasonably)
>>80962179
I've always said that was the only solution. Leave black communities alone and let them police themselves. See how well they handle it.
>>80962571
Exactly. Once they start murdering each other enough to beg for police instead of chanting NIGGER LIVES MATTER, then go back to the danger zones
>>80961180
Hey OP, come take a seat you commie fuck.
>>80961180
The police is militarised because you have non-whites allowed in your country.
It wouldn't be militarised in an all-white country.
Fight the problem creating militarised police, and military police will go away.
All white countries won't have it.
>>80961580
Newsflash: cops are shooting unarmed whites also but the media doesn't talk about it
>>80964402
>>80964008
So why don't we just let Alton Sterling shoot Mike Brown and then arrest him when he runs out of bullets?
NiggerLivesMatter would have a hard time calling that racist
>>80964643
just remove the nigger threat.
You are a superpower burger, maybe in decline but still the top dog, and that means nobody would dare interfere.
Who would stop you? The Germancucks? The Leafs? The Chinese? (kek the chinks would not give a fuck).
Do it before its too late and America is once again only the alpha among equals. That is where we are heading and you know it. So do it now while you still can. Remove the noggs.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-fresno-police-shooting-video-20160713-snap-story.html
Unarmed white guy gets shot for making spazzy movements while cops can tell he is likely suicidal/mentall unstable and also likely unarmed
>>80965220
Can't we just send them back to africa and leave them alone to prove that they wuz never kings?
>>80964552
The problem isnt police shooting people, its people who do not obey the police. 1 time, 1 time in all of this, has there been an honestly questionable shooting (MN) The vast majority of the time the criminals deserved what they got.
Obey or die. Its pretty fucking simple
>>80962767
>beg for police instead of chanting NIGGER LIVES MATTER
It's like you're blind.
This has already been the case in chicago for years.
They kill each other nonstop and don't beg for police.
>>80962571
>>80962767
And you 2 geniuses just created the American version of Muslim Ghettos in places like Belgium.
It would only be a matter of time before they run out of shit to steal and burn in their own neighborhood and they come to visit yours. Great plan. Dont deal with the problem. Ignore the problem until it is pointing a gun at you demanding your car keys
>>80965408
sure send them back or put them into the ground, it matters not.
>>80965353
Once again, fucking listen to the person with the gun. Stop fucking moving you cracked out junkie and I wont shoot you. Keep your used needles in your pocket, stay on the fucking ground, and stop fucking moving.
Once again, and nothing of value was lost
>>80965012
Action plan.
>>80966115
What do you think about increased Asp usage? Pro police here, and I think if we saw more Aspplay it would give our brothers in blue something to go to before gun in situations that are borderline (in THEIR judgement)
>>80966115
Nothing of value was lost
But cops are not executioners
Everything that led up to the cops being legally allowed to open fire was retarded
Cops should also be able to recognize when the situation is 99% under control. When 1 guy outside cover, possibly unarmed, is dancing around in front of multiple police officers with their sites trained on him, hit him with some rubber bullets, a high tech tazer or a bearnet launcher
>>80966687
Sights*
>>80966624
Whats Asp?
>>80966816
Telescoping self-defense baton.
>>80966941
Then yes, nonlethal equipment should be purchased instead of automatic firearms, armored vehicles, attack helicopters and FUCKING BILLIONS OF ROUNDS OF HOLLOWPOINT AMMUNITION
>>80965811
>no replies
Well you're right. So what's the alternative?
>>80961180
I don't understand how people get the attention of the police so much.
I have had a total of one encounter with the police in my entire life.
Generally, if you try to be a responsible and conscientious person in daily living, your chances of having any kind of encounter with the police plummets.
>>80967621
>Generally, if you try to be a responsible and conscientious person in daily living, your chances of having any kind of encounter with the police plummets.
How insightful of you.
>>80967286
With you. I stand with police, but I don't want to see cunts like Soros try to force a choice between rampant rioting and armored vehicles. Let's keep officer friendly.
This is the tough spot we get put in when dirty cops aren't brought to justice, it muddies the water for dumb people. That's why Serpico's a fucking herotier NYCbro, to 50 brothers and US citizens of all walks of life.
>>80967621
>Generally, if you try to be a responsible and conscientious person in daily living, your chances of having any kind of encounter with the police plummets.
THIS.
>>80961397
>other wise the violence will become unmanagble
actually no, if there were no police nobody would murder due to fear of retribution, except of course wealthy people with their own military force
kind of like now
>>80961180
Fuck off nigger, after Dallas it's war.
I hope they kill every nigger they can and drag their bodies and the bodies of their white collaborators through the streets.
>>80968442
And who defends the 80 year old woman with no family from gangs of feral niggers?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/fuckwhitesupremacy?utm_source=crowd-live-backend&utm_medium=visit-channel&utm_campaign=notifications
In case you needed another reason to hate nigger females.
>>80965794
So then just let them keep doing it and focus on pointing out where the crime is
Take control of the narrative
>>80965811
Except they can't spread in Amerca Eurocuck
>Demilitarize the police
>When we got militarized niggers obstructing the peace and safety of the citizens in this country
Get shot for doing nuffin, OP. The world would be a better place for it.
>>80967621
I have had them harass me many times
Plenty of them are power abusing assholes
Niggers are worse though and their job is mostly to deal with niggers
>>80961180
>cops are evil racists
>we need demilitarize them!
>Let's let the Federal govt control the cops surely this won't end badly like every time in history
>If you feel you are "at war" with the American people
They aren't, they're at war with BLM niggers who literally want this society to descend into anarchy. I stand with them, most Whites do, because we like having civilization.
>>80968751
Her family or her gun you bootlicker
>>80968442
>actually no, if there were no police nobody would murder due to fear of retribution,
You can't seriously believe this. You're forgetting niggers have very little impulse control and very little abstract thinking ability. If there "were no police" we'd have a failed state within weeks. BLM would start rioting, people would start shooting them, BLM and Black panthers and whoever the fuck else would start shooting back. It would turn into a civil war.
>>80968556
So do that when you are off duty, with your own gear, pig. No militarizing the police force
>>80969489
>he can't defend himself and his family against niggers
Pathetic cuck
>>80969847
>draping yourself in the american flag while being anti-american as fuck
Unicorn riot detected
>>80969624
(((They))) want you to pick a side retard. Cops need to be demilitarized and niggers need to be dealt with. THAT DOESNT MEAN SIDING WITH NIGGERS OR PIGS
>>80969796
>no gunz detected
Go be a pussy in some other country cuck
>>80970031
>pro-police state
>pro-American
Pick one cuck
>>80969977
In my home sure, maybe close to my car. I can't defend myself in most public places though. What happens when a nigga wants to do nuffin at a restaurant or convenience store? This is what I have to live with daily, the thought of a nigger deciding now is the right time to kill whitey for 22 dollars and a snickers bar. I could be dead right now if it wasn't for a cop shooting one of Obama's sons.
I think the Obama tries to make as much damage as he possibly can before the elections.
Trump will never be able to fix this mess
>>80970397
>what is a CCW permit/a pocket knife/situational awareness/avoiding retarded scenarios etc etc.
It's as easy to avoid problems with niggers as it is to avoid problems with police
>>80970031
Unicorn Riot (right there in the name) might be accomplice to incitement of riots.
>>80970482
THATS WHY IM TRYING (((BUDDY)))
We need to identify BLM and geoge soros as terrorist organizations and start allowing law abiding citizens to defend against niggers easier while simultaneously demilitarizing the police so we don't have a police state
>>80970781
The fuck is a unicorn riot?
>>80970482
Why are you defeated? We aren't. Pick up your zeal brother, if Trump loses Israel is in a bad spot. Look at how Obama has disrespected US Israel relations.
>>80970255
>posting pic of globalist mason
>>80970886
Pretend underground news org likely funded by others, not genuinely grass roots, that serves as shoulder surfing camera cracker for #BLM terrorists while they taunt and attack police officers.
>>80970031
I have literally not been anti-American once. You bootlickers seriously 100% associate a militarized police state with Americanism???
>>80970994
Funded by this guy right?
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/blacklivesmatter-leader-deray-lives-home-owned-by-soros-connected/
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/fuckwhitesupremacy?utm_source=crowd-live-backend&utm_medium=visit-channel&utm_campaign=notifications
Watch cunt shit on police. Is there nothing we can do?
>>80971023
Define militarized police. At what point does having the latest equipment become militarized? I don't like the cops having armored vehicles either, but I also don't like the cops to be totally pozzed and useless when BLM starts rioting and endangering entire cities. Where does one draw the line? Sorry for my reaction earlier but its "muh militarized police" is being used as justification for killing cops by groups like BLM and UR.
>>80970901
>freemasons founded America
Sound the alarm, noone cares
>>80971173
Very likely.
>>80971264
It's been off-air for a while, fuckoff
>>80971300
Every dollar spent on automatic weapons, APCs or stuff you would give to the MILITARY, should be spent on non lethal equipment (long range tazers, bearnet launchers etc).
>>80971300
I'm saying that police should do their basic job as servants of the public, not soldiers fighting a war against criminals.
If neighborhoods get too dangerous, then pullout. If they start to grab territory and create an actual gang state, send in the militia or I supposed a very limited SWAT team of some sort. Bottom line should be that cops are not meant to overpower the population though. We have the second amendment. The idea that we are defenseless babies that need to be cucked by a militarized police force is bullshit.
Real white men support the police 100%. If you don't support the police you're anti white. And if you're anti white you support white genocide.
>>80961180
Until riots don't threaten the safety of the uninvolved, we do.
>>80961180
posting a pic of cops during the boston bomber hunt is not evidence that we have 'militarized police' and neither is a video of nig #7923 getting shot
>>80973130
Nice divide/conquer tactic kike
Consolidating power in the hands of an enforcement class and dealing with niggers do not have to go hand in hand
You don't oppress white people because black chimp out
>>80973245
What American worth a shit can't handle some riotting niggers?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCiC6qTtjs
Also if the militia deals with a riot, there won't be another riot
>>80973130
Real men support the police 100%*, because they know if the blue line gets crossed they're next up.
>>80973893
>Nice divide/conquer tactic kike
>>80961180
>police should be demilitarized
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX5CPx4RKWw
Yeh nah.
>>80961180
Fuck off you bunch of cunts. Where would we be without police? I like them like they are so eat a dick.
>>80973558
http://truthinmedia.com/truth-in-media-the-root-of-police-militarization/
I didn't think I needed to clarify. Here's just a small taste of San Bernadino's police militarization in pic related.
>>80974166
See
>>80974098
real men support the 2nd amendment. Not being cucked by and dependent on a militarized police force
>>80969750
How well does that situation work in Somalia? The failed socialist state that is now a libertarian paradise?
>>80974274
I said DEMILITARIZED not DISARMED you retard
>>80974472
This. Our police can do their job better, if they know they aren't strictly needed. Meaning they have ample backup in the populace, trained and armed.
>>80974288
>fuck off racists! I like having my wife fucked by niggers and everyone should be forced to embrace the cuckold lifestyle too!
Really makes you think
>>80961180
Demilitarize the niggers and then you may be on to something.
Nice post Traybon Washington, think will keep some big guns around until all of you ghetto chimps are dead.
>>80974517
>somalian niggers are the same as white Americans
I guess you think all humans are the same don't you mr anti-racist equality communist?
>>80974274
>That cop with the trashcan
Top fucking kek
>>80974524
I dunno man that's a Military grade high capacity assault wheelie bin that policeman man was operating
>>80974613
FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT
If the police need help with an enemy that outguns them, THEY SHOULD CALL ON THE LOCAL WELL REGULATED MILITIA and we will gladly have their backs and risk our lives together.
>but muh pussy county doesn't have a local militia
Then you deserve whatever you get you fucking cucks. Be tolerant and nice to them since you apparently think that's what makes the world go round
>>80974710
Don't disarm niggers.
Gun them down in self defense when it is legal you fucking cuck.
>>80974812
Those are literally banned in Britain along with Bike wheels and cutting knives if I am not mistaken
>>80974906
>If the police need help with an enemy that outguns them, THEY SHOULD CALL ON THE LOCAL WELL REGULATED MILITIA and we will gladly have their backs and risk our lives together.
>Call in a drone strike to deal with crazies
Yes because sending a hundred million dollar missile at some lowlife nignog is economically efficient and practical.
>>80971764
They have so much military gear because it's surplus from the iraq and afghan wars.
>demilitarize the police
>>80975261
>A well regulated miltia
Is not a drone strike. It's not even the national guard.It's simply a volunteer group of men willing to fight for the people.
>>80975609
The other thing is the blurring of civilian and military invites shit like populist militia commanders seizing control.
>>80975261
>10 civilians with legal body armor, rifles and training
>a multi-million dollar military drone strike
Where's the connection or are you just bein an aussie?
>W-Wah, they have scary asalt rifles!
Who cares, this just makes killing those who stand in the whites way more entertaining.
>>80975503
Don't make me show you crime graphs you generic meme spamming kike
>>80975733
He may be saying that the argument that the military will send in drones on militiamen is retarded
>>80975729
>populist militia commanders overthrowing their corrupt governments is a bad thing
Go suck george soros' dick bootlicker
>>80975503
also
>>80975839
>implying I don't know crime has been going down
I'm not that retarded, faggot
>>80975795
Tbh it would be more exciting if they had to use non-military equipment like a counterstrike pistol round.
Nigs get glocke n tec9s while police get kevlar and a USP
I'd watch and cheer for the police
>>80961180
Criminals dont play by the rules you can get a lot of stuff on the black market. So tell me why should the police regress while the bad guys stock up ?
>>80975843
His accent is so thick I dont know wether to give him the badge or tell him to fuck off were full
If niggers can have AR-15s I want our police to have them too.
>>80976280
You don't get to use that excuse when the government deploys the equilevant of an armored division to raid someones closet for a plant
>>80976280
BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AT WAR WITH THE AMERICAN CITIZENRY
MAY AS WELL TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO IRAQ WITH PATRIOTS/REBELS/CRIMINALS/"DOMESTIC TERRORISTS" INSTEAD OF INSURGENTS
Oh wait that's exactly what the NWO wants...
>>80961180
Police will gladly demilitarize just as soon as blacks deniggerize.
>>80976390
>niggers
>not having a criminal record
Nice shitpost
>>80976676
>niggers
>buying guns legally
topcuck
>>80976489
This
THE SOLUTION IS BECOMING FAR WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM
If cops are shooting nigs and nigs are shooting cops, DONT ESCALATE THE SITUATION. For example, you could just stop policing all black neighborhoods and let their crime rate rise AS REQUESTED BY THE HORDES OF SHEBOONS, NIGGERS AND KEKS. Just give them what they want and police the safe neighborhoods
>>80976670
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jP-xXO1vuaw
Whites get killed too.
>>80976670
Why not just let Alton Sterling kill Mike Brown and then arrest him when he runs out of bullets?
You don't even need a gun
Think about it
>>80972168
Fucking yes anon. I agree completely with everything you say. Keep it up
>>80976831
>Getting a quality weapon, illegally, at nigger-tier prices that isn't just some shit 9mm glock
Nope
They get plenty of illegal weapons, but dont pretend niggers have the patience and organization mudslimes have
>>80961180
>Demilitarize
The term is meaningless in the context of so-called militarization of police.
>muh tanks
MRAPs and APCs that are hand me downs from OIF and OEF are significantly cheaper in procurement costs compared to Chevy Suburban with modified panels, chassis and suspension. Even maintenance costs for a specialized vehicle such as an MRAP can reduced to reasonable level if the department knows what their doing in terms of finding the right servicing contractor that can negotiate.
>muh rifles
'87 hollywood shootout set the precedent.
Surprisingly, rifle rounds can actually penetrate less hard barriers compared to pistol rounds.
Specifically, the smaller mass of the 5.56 round compared to a 9mm round makes it less susceptible to retain the necessary kinetic energy to penetrate through mediums such as drywall after penetrating tissue. Combined with deeper penetration and the possibility of fragmentation in the terminal ballistics of SOFT targets actually makes intermediate rifle calibers the more viable solution for wider public safety and the mitigation of collateral damage when it comes conducting raids or arrests against armed individuals and groups.
>muh uniforms
Body armor and ballistic helmets are worth their weight in gold. The black is a bit stormtrooper-esque and can evoke a less desirable image of police but that's more or an issue of optics and pr.
The only possible point you can make is the abundance of no-knock raids vs the use of stakeouts and public arrests for non-violent felony offenders and the really contentious point of the 'othering' of the wider public.
>>80972168
What are you on about? The descriptor 'militarized police force' can only be directly applied to the over reliance of no-knock raids for non-emergency arrests such as non-violent drug offenders and not in a wider scope for general policing.
>>80978233
If the gear could go without the mentality and the increased "duties" it would be fine. Incase you haven't noticed, our government is corrupt as fuck and cannot be trusted with armored vehicles, automatic weapons or anything that improves combat effectiveness for tax dollars. All funding should be going towards non-lethal equipment until our police forces start dying faster than they can get replaced. Cops sign up to risk their lives serving and protecting. They do not sign up to win a war against the American citizens.
>>80978575
The equipment and leads to a mentality of "we are soldiers" and "criminals are just insurgents among the population" especially when many cops are ex-military from fucking Iraq
We need to break this cops vs citizens mentality, and one concrete way to do that is to demilitarize police.
Remember this:
VERY FEW COPS ARE DYING EVERY YEAR
ITS NOT AN EPIDEMIC PROBLEM TO OUTFIT THEM ALL WITH MILITARY EQUIPMENT ON TAX PAYER MONEY
>>80979258
*COPS DYING IS NOT AN EPIDEMIC PROBLEM THAT REQUIRES MILITARIZATION
Using a shootout with 2 guys in west hollywood (who didnt even kill a single person if I remember correctly) to militarize the police is the same as using the Orlando shooting to ban guns. It is bullshit.
>>80978974
>our government
Look I'm not a U.S citizen so my understanding of federal police funding and federal powers on the determination of state police department protocols and guidelines is cursory at best.
But aren't the protocols and practices of state police departments beholden to state and not federal government? If we're following the logic of your argument that would mean the governments of all 50 states and the state legislative officials responsible for the law enforcement are all simultaneously corrupt.
I'm not sure if that is a reasonable argument here.
Secondly, this notion that somehow wearing body armor and having a rifle on hand drastically alters the mentality of officers is flimsy at best. Even with the support of interviews and recorded statements there is the possibility of falling into the trap of anecdotal fallacies. Considering the national surveys of police departments find an overwhelming support for the preservation of 2nd amendment rights for private citizens I'm not entirely sure if this 'othering' of the wider public is as widespread as you portray it to be.
> "we are soldiers" and "criminals are just insurgents among the population" especially when many cops are ex-military from fucking Iraq
You know what's interesting? Outside of the early invasion effort and some of the larger battles that dominated the headlines the majority of OIF actually composed of military police action in order to maintain the peace and to suppress sectarian conflict in the region. This involved the focusing on cultivating a 'hearts and minds' campaign and the identification and monitoring of potential violent actors. In fact you could say that there is a large degree of skill transfer when it comes to a veteran who was on the ground conducting patrols and id checks on iraqi citizens during the majority of their tour and coming home work as a police officer patrolling neighborhoods and conducting routine traffic stops during their shifts.
>>80981503
As I've said before the key concern there is when it comes to 'militarization' of the police is in the over-reliance on no knock raids.
Outside the realm of no knock raids, unpolished CQB tactics for room entries and poor training for target identification in enclosed environments, the specific doctrine and policies of state police forces in their respective use of force continuum is formulated and revised based on historical precedent specific to the safety and well-being of police officers not something derived from military tactics.
>>80982149
Increasing the safety of police officers by giving them more military equipment intended for use in war against an enemy reduces the safety of the people of the nation.
The officer's safety should come second to the civilians, not first.
People forget that cops are supposed to be at risk and die in the line of duty if necessary. Don't baby cops but outfitting them with enough firepower to invade Iraq.
>>80983053
>don't baby cops *by
>>80983053
>Increasing the safety of police officers by giving them more military equipment intended for use in war against an enemy reduces the safety of the people of the nation.
This doesn't make sense. Body armor of all NIJ levels including ballistic helmets are not restricted to only military purchase. Restrictions on sales to civilians are based on either state law or distributor/manufacturer discretion. Even if the primary and majority users of ceramic ballistic plates are military personnel, doesn't mean they were 'intended for use in war'. The majority of material procurement for the military is actually the adaptation of commercial products to the needs of the military.
What I was actually referring to when it came to revising of policies and protocols based on officer safety and well-being has nothing to do with the procurement of military exclusive equipment or the historical precedent of any military tactics or significant tactical anecdotes. The addition of body armor and intermediate caliber carbines for patrol officers came from the North Hollywood shootout of 1997 and the focus on aggressive arrest tactics actually comes from the advent of patrol car dash cameras and recorded incidents of assaults on officers.
You have to take into account that one of the key changes to police equipment, the change to the semi-automatic pistol, came into existence because of 1987 Miami FBI shootout and the not because of refinement and maturing of CQB tactics developed within units attached to the Joint Special Operations Command.
>>80983053
>The officer's safety should come second to the civilians, not first.
Firefighters do not operate on this principle.
Paramedics do not operate on this principle.
First responders are emphatically trained not to provide first aid if the responder's personal safety is at risk.
This notion of deliberately putting yourself into harms way is only undertaken under extreme circumstances.
Do you not know your DRABCs?
>>80985099
I think you are missing my point.
The police should not be able to overpower the population. They should not have the ability to use overwhelming force on criminals. They are not at war with the American people. You are looking at their role all wrong. Overall they should be at the mercy of the American people (to a reasonable extent). Handguns and body armor for normal cops would be acceptable I think, but no automatics or armored vehicles. Allow a few rifles and some heavier ceramic body armor at the station or something incase there is an emergency, but nothing should be added to the arsenal in the name of improving combat efficiency. Only combat necessity.
>wants military-grade weapons available for civilian use
>doesn't want militarized police
the cops will always have superior weaponry. get rid of your guns and they won't.
>>80985548
I mean on a systemic level, not on an individual level.
For example, Obviously in a shootout, the cop should not die first or else the mass shooter will just finish off all the other civilians.
In general, the safety of the people is more important than the safety of the officers, but sometimes that means occasionally saving the officers life first for the greater good
>>80961180
If you want police to demilitarize, demilitarize the gangs first.
>>80986185
>cops will always have superior firepower
>just give up your guns
>submit to authority
>be anti-American
>let a nigger fuck your wife
>be a cuck
Thanks for the bump. Law abiding citizens being armed nearly as well as the police is not a threat, it is an asset. You are lumping in nigs/criminals/terrorists with patriotic non-violent white gun owners
>>80986274
>keep groups 2 and 3 out of the country with a secure border
Group 1 can't even conquer a fucking neighborhood without shooting themselves.
You make my point by implying that police have to combat these enemies. THEY DONT! THIS IS NOT A WAR BETWEEN COPS AND CRIMINALS!
>>80986274
biological human policing units are obsolete
>>80986185
The only 'superior weaponry' that the police have are grenade launchers to launch smoke grenades and SIGINT tools that the military cannot use on domestic soil.
m4 carbines and m16 rifles do not provide any significant tactical benefits with the addition of automatic fire. Rather, it is more likely the higher degree of quality control and inspection as well as the subsidized costs of production of military restricted firearms also makes it a more economically attractive option for law enforcement agencies.
>>80986724
This is the next step
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE
>director and family all got suicided before release
FALL IN LINE CRIMINAL/DOMESTIC TERRORIST/ENEMY OF THE STATE SCUM
>>80986881
Smoke grenade launchers are a prime example of non-lethal weapons that should be purchased instead of APCs and automatics.
C4 and explosive grenades should open an investigation to shut down the department.
WHY DID THEY HAVE A ROBOT WITH ENOUGH C4 TO BLOW UP A MCDONALDS READY TO GO AT A MOMENTS NOTICE IN DALLAS???
>>80986243
In general, the safety of the people is more important than the safety of the officers, but sometimes that means occasionally saving the officers life first for the greater good
Sure, that means when there is an active shooter situation officers should run towards the gunfire. What it doesn't mean is that when an individual is advancing on a police officer with hand behind their back they shouldn't expect to not be possibly dealt with lethal force.
The role of the law enforcement officer is to enforce the law not 'save lives'.
>>80987423
Ok lets use your example
If a suspect is reaching in his waist while surrounded and is not endangering any other citizens, cops should risk getting shot to have one of the multiple officers use a non-lethal weapon.
You're still treating every citizen like an enemy combatant which is the opposite of what law enforcement should do.
>>80987423
Also it's actually "to protect and serve the public" because we are fucking forced to pay them.
Ideally they do that by enforcing the law, but not necessarily when the government starts becoming corrupt.
>>80987186
C4 is used for door and wall breaching. The use and application of c4 explosives specific to the dallas incident is absolutely questionable and requires inquiry.
The purpose of having and maintaining the robot is to assist in providing on the scene intelligence for hostage situations such as bank robberies and home invasions gone wrong. Yet again, the use of the robot in the dallas incident is particularly unusual.
Smoke grenade launchers, not smoke grenades.
That includes the m203 single shot launcher platform. Which was originally designed to fire 40mm High explosive rounds.
As I mentioned earlier, it is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper for a PD to acquire a military surplus armored personnel carrier instead of an up armored chevy suburban. It is not an issue of whether the pd wants the badass armored truck or not. It's an issue of whether or not the pd wants to spend 15,000 buying and modifying an SUV for an incident response unit or spend 5,000 on acquiring a low mileage MRAP that was briefly in Iraq outright.
>>80961180
Demilitarize niggers first and its ok.
It's really simple, citizenship needs to stop being a right and become a privilege. If you go too much against what the country is standing for (Constitution) or its people, it should be possible (with due process of course) to remove someone's citizenship and ship them elsewhere, literally kick them out of your country.
>>80962023
They would be bitching about white citizens shooting them.
>>80968442
Chicago here. Blacks are killing other black on the south side right now in such a way that will lead to them dying tomorrow in retribution.
You are just plain wrong.
Tbh, cops should look pic related.
Military/SWAT Units should only be deployed in raiding drug houses or mass shooter areas not protestors.
>>80976999
You cannot police only the non black neighborhoods. That is actual racism rather then the bullshit kind they complain about now.
>>80988058
The fact that they are choosing to reach into the waistband when instructed not to immediately endangers everyone in vicinity. If the dickhead wants to play cowboy and quickdraw a pistol do you honestly think they won't aim like retard and only fire when they have a proper grip and sight picture? The moment the trigger finger breaks the trigger the bullet is beyond the individuals control will travel wherever the muzzle is aiming towards with or without the will of the shooter.
Why the fuck would you rely on the suspect only hitting you because they want to get you?
Shooting a gun properly and hitting your intended target is not just point and shoot.
>>80988667
> ship them elsewhere
Like where? I'm sure there's plenty of countries that can't wait for state/nationless refugees.
>>80988264
"To protect and serve" is a slogan. Nothing more.
There is no 'obligation' for a law enforcement officer to protect a member of the public. Read up on the Supreme Court ruling on this.
>>80989278
Let's take the US for example. The US has many extracontinental territories, islands, etc. that fall under its jurisdiction, but you're not a citizen if you're born on those. It's a patchwork of weird rules, but this would be a perfect location.
>>80961180
Let's just give them big targets to wear as well you fucking moron. Kick the nigs and spics out then maybe we can scale back.
>>80986707
>Police doesn't have to uphold law
Whatever you say, chimp.
>>80989017
Riot gear looks similar but is different body armor.
What you said would make sense before Dallas.
Now? Not anymore. Riot officers can no longer just wear armor and helmets for low velocity projectiles such as bottles, rocks and blunt trauma such as sticks and poles.
>>80987186
C4 is used to breech shit like walls. Its also probably stashed outside the station and some area depot for such things.
Like lets say a building collapses and suddenly they need to get a bunch of kids out of a basement that has no accessible entrances. Thats what c4 is for a controlled detonation by an expert to breech a thick cinder block wall.
Or how about a terrorist takes hostages in a gay club and the cops need to open a wall so they can surprise the guy and shoot him.
Its not an explosive that is meant to be a weapon itself. Its not a grenade. This was a jury rig job by someone who was in the military and use the technique before.
>>80988575
And the problem is bumping up those budgets to give them those armored vehicles.
They should just not be well stocked and prepared across the country for that shit regardless of the fact that it is cheaper to use an MRAP than an armored SUV
>>80988681
So arrest and imprison every white that does that unlawfully
Whites aren't generally aren't niggers and can control themselves
>>80988575
>>80987186
I should add to this. The robot was for dealing with bombs. It was about 800lbs and something like 150k price tag on it. Its was a heavy duty thing meant for dealing with bombs.
One of the ways you might have to deal with a bomb is detonate it if you cannot defuse it. That is what the robot is sometimes used for.
So this was a modified use of the robot but it was meant to deliver explosives sometimes.
It was a good solution at the time but it does open a pretty fucked up can of worms. Remote death machines used against american citizens on american soil.
>>80990093
No, it is cheaper for them to get surplus armored vehicles instead of the traditional police specific armored vehicles. Armored vehicles have been in use by incident response units of police forces across the world for the past 30 years.
Fbi recently told local police leaders that if there's ever a mass terrorist attack on US soil, thay the local cops would be the only thing there since the national guard could take days to assemble as well as the FBI anti terror teams. Let them have their protective vehicles. They're not using them to bust tyrone the crackhead on the block or something
>>80989017
And the SWAT team should only have the bear minimum necessary to take down a heavily armed threat.
For fucks sake, their only job is SWAT, you shouldn't need equipment when you get paid to practice for combat 5 hours a day everyday. You should be a fucking supersoldier than can handle half of ISIS with nothing but a handgun if you're getting paid 100k a year from the tax payers to be a super soldier that doesn't have a standing enemy hes fighting
>>80989143
You can if they demand it and threaten to shoot cops if you don't
OH WAIT THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING
>>80990322
Furthermore, bumping up of budgets has nothing to do with the type of equipment that is used but federal incentive programs to boost budgets based on the quotas of drug related arrests due to the war on drugs. These incentives and the war on drugs is one of the main contributing factors to the significant increase in the use of SWAT units in non-emergency raids.
>>80989205
So sell the MRAP and the automatic rifles and buy a bearnet launcher
Once you have the suspect surrounded, 1/5 of the cops with their guns drawn gets the bearnet launcher
If one cop is alone and is at risk, then yeah sure light em up if your life is at risk
>>80989278
All of europe and canada, especially sweden
>>80961180
>L.A. Riots happen
>Wonder why the police becomes militarised.
>>80989430
Well it should be their goal, NOT to win the war on criminals and stop all crime by enforcing every law to it's fullest extent
Policing is a double edged sword we need to be reminded of
>>80990843
Don't forget the north hollywood shootout.
>>80990647
This, both blacks and police are victims of federal welfare trickery.
>>80989796
How about you just don't police neighborhoods that are OMG SO DANGEROUS until they beg you to police them?
Don't gear up and go to war, just sit back and say "whatever, if it's racist to save black people from black people then ima let black people kill black people"
As i said before
>just let Alton Sterling kill Mike Brown and then arrest Alton when he runs out of bullets
It's a metaphor
>>80989823
Laws are not supposed to reflect the desires of an oppressive government
>>80989823
Laws are not supposed to reflect the desires/agenda of an oppressive government against the will of the people you bootlicker
>>80990707
Tasers already exist. This is more of a training and doctrine issue rather than an equipment issue. the main problem is that even with a knife there is the 21 ft rule to take into account which even more pertinent to tasers.
A bearnet launcher would be a single shot device similar to a taser and still does not incapacitate the suspect if they are wielding a firearm. Additionally such an unstreamlined projectile will mean aiming and hitting your target will be extraordinarily difficult unless the device is large enough to capture at least 3 full grown men making the device practically impossible to be handheld.
>>80989889
Oh yeah I'm sure thousands of americans are dying to those rare as fuck scenarios every year
>>80990239
Agreed that more research needs to be done on the robot and how/why that was so readily available to be used to kill an American (albeit a terrorist nigger American)
>>80991482
C4 breaching charges are used on a regular basis to make entries into barricaded buildings during hostage situations when the safety of the hostage is under immediate threat.
>>80961180
Deniggerize the Blacks first
>>80961180
i dont see the problem about them having "too much" equipment
do you feel criminals need a chance to win or something?
>>80990441
It's like those asshole ignore the fact that WE ARE ALL ARMED AND CAN TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES
SECUR THE BORDER AND PROTECT THE FUCKING WATER SUPPLY AND THE POWER PLANTS
>>80990647
Militarization of the police is a symptom of federal corruption and horrible policies, agreed
>>80991641
Nothing was wrong in the procurement process of the robot, the availability of the robot for police purchase or the intended role of the robot. The key issue was the team in charge utilizing the robot deliberately jury rigged the machine into an IED. The key issue is the decision making process of personnel, nothing was inherently wrong with the machine or the manufacturers quality control of the the product.
>>80990951
>>80990843
>a few rooftop koreans could've handled both of those incidents better than billions of YOUR TAX DOLLARS spent militarizing the police all over the entire country
>>80991966
It isn't so much federal corruption but rather the unintended consequences of niche scenario budget allocations.
>>80991828
Implying that you plebs will leave your homes to fight instead of hole up inside when you realize the real world isn't like a fallout video game.
>>80991467
I think I already posted it, but this would be for situations like Alton Sterling or that 19 yr old unarmed white kid in fresno that got gunned down
Also those technologies can be perfected using the money spent on military grade equipment
>>80992107
Not in the case of the north hollywood shootout.
The first responding officers were patrol officers and they were immediately engaged in a firefight.
At the time, patrol officers were equipped with handguns and a shotgun in the back of their patrol vehicle.
The entire incident is the reason why many patrol cars have ar-15s in the trunk.
>>80991752
Ok then sure let certain departments have a publicly disclosed amount of explosives/C4 available in a secure location
>>80991770
Unamerican cucks that don't even understand the 2nd amendment gtfo and stfu
Go shit up a gun control thread
>>80961180
>muh police violence!
>cops too militarised!
>Black lives matter!
>Hands up don't shoot!
>Why you pull a gun so fast?!
>How dare you assume I'm dangerous!?
>How dare you protect yourself!?
>It's not like half the people you meet try to kill you!
>You don't have to be so aggressive!
I would really like for all the pussies who spout out this nonsense to try and work as a cop for a month in a dindu ghetto. Seriously. Cops in Germany aren't soft because they are nice people, they are soft because they don't encounter such violence on a regular basis. The odds of getting shot during a regular stop are so low they don't bother to wear vests.
But can you say the same for cops in the USA?
It's all just a matter of seconds. A moment of not paying attention. Loosening up for a fraction of a second. Failing to notice a tell. And there you go.
You're dead.
Hope your family can live off of whatever shitty support you have provided for them before you got shot.
Tell me anons, how quickly would you make the correct decision?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e19_1468249664
>>80992414
Sorry by "rooftop koreans" i meant modern American gun owners with semi-auto rifles.
I personally could've had a chance to stop those 2 gunmen if the local PD had just called me and said "hey we need you to take out these 2 guys wearing body armor and no helmets"
>>80992493
The problem is that the high risk factor in the use of explosives for making entries as well as the defusing of explosive devices means that both breachers and EOD technicians have to constantly train and update their skillset.
This means that rather than viewing explosives as critical incident equipment such as body armor you should rather view them as perishable goods such as ammunition.
>>80992780
This is a #BlackLivesDontMatter thread sir
When you side with niggers or cops, you are getting divide and conquered by (((them)))
>>80974274
Nobody said Police shouldn't have a handgun, but do they really need Uzis?
>>80992996
That's fine, the stuff just shouldn't be stockpiled. Remember: the goal is to not be at war with the American "insurgents"
Only solve the problems American citizens can't solve themselves is what we should aim for
>>80993052
Give em body armor, a handgun and spend the rest on high tech non-lethal weaponry for every squad car rather than SWAT teams for every local PD
>>80992869
You weren't there. Nothing you can say changes that fact. There is no way you 'personally could've had a chance to stop those 2 gunmen'.
Could've, would've but you didn't. Even if you were scrolled ranger or navy seal you wouldn't been able to. You weren't there.
>>80979578
>Protectors of the people couldn't harm two heavily-armed bank robbers (not targeted-shooters) to the point of taking automatic rifles from a nearby gunstore
>One of them was only caught-out because he couldn't drive a stick
It's because of that shootout that police are now armed with AR-15 on SWAT teams, high-caliber service pistols, and Kevlar-reinforced patrol cars. The police are the first line of defense for the American people if guns are banned. This is evident in the Dallas shooting where cops protected citizens with their own bodies.
Militarization of police is necessary since the National Guard is basically just Red Cross in uniform at this point.
>>80993204
What I'm saying is that they should be stockpiled in order maintain operator competency and prevent unnecessary collateral damage when they are needed. Hostage situations are extreme stress environments where the tiniest mistake can result in numerous preventable deaths.
Unlike regular patrol officers, SWAT officers have to constantly train in order to refresh and maintain their skillset. Same goes for any specialist that has to perform their role in a high stress and highly volatile environment.
>>80974354
>police
>posts a SWAT car
These are special forces you dumbshit. They have always been half cops half military. Their job requires they can handle even the heaviest situation. Unless you want to get the army/national guard involved every time there's a gang war in the neighbourhood.
>>80993352
Of course
My point still stands though
An armed law abiding populace is an asset not a threat
>>80993889
>government being in charge of your safety is a necessity because I say so
>submit now and embrace cuckoldry
How many people did the hollywood shooters kill again???
>>80993895
Ok well make the information public and justify why you need enough C4 to destroy half the city to the general public then
>>80993934
>implying a couple law abiding white guys with legal rifles couldn't handle a "gang war"
>implying niggers want their gang wars policed
>implying you don't live in cucked noguns poland
>>80989017
Imho they should just put their own snipers on roofs and shoot to kill the moment ANY member of the crowd starts to devastate public or private property.
The amount of shit you can get away with during such "protests" is nonsensical. These are just legalized riots if anything. Burning cars, smashing windows and storefronts, looting, vandalizing public and private property... This is no better behaviour than the flash mobs that were popular back in the day, when dindus would just swarm a chosen store and simply openly loot it and nobody could stop them simply because there were too many.
Fuck that. If you're a decent person you should never find yourself in such a situation. All others should be shot on the spot. At least then scenes like we saw in France during the protests and now in Dallas would not have happened. If everybody knows there's police/military snipers watching them ready to blow their brains out the moment they start throwing shit at line cops they would probably be much more civil and respectful of others.
>>80994155
>Completely deflecting any argument I presented
If I'm not legally allowed to own a gun, how should I protect myself? What happens when my business is burned to the ground by a roaming gang of niggers because police didn't have the necessary equipment to deal with riots? Call in the National Guard? The ACTUAL military?
The response time is laughable compared to patrol officers outfitted with riot gear and special SWAT teams. Don't forget that the recent riots (either Trayvon or Brown, I can't remember) needed police from multiple different counties AND the highway patrol AND the state troopers.
And the lack of casualties in North Hollywood was because of bank robbing and not a mass shooter targeting civilians or police. I'd also like to remind you that a dozen or so people were injured, it's not just deaths that matter. Go move to England with Muhammed and watch the cops politely yell at somebody instead of shooting a hopped-up, knife-wielding psycho.
>>80961180
> at every opportunity you are legally allowed
> legally allowed
If you're allowed, it's okay.
>>80995308
>American flag
>If I'm not legally allowed to own a gun
They you got conquered by an anti-American enemy of our nation brother
>>80995308
>wants and thinks Americans should be cucked by police
>tells me to move to England
Are you high?
>>80995458
Okay doesnt mean you should nigger
Freedom requires responsibility
>>80996260
Why not? The more criminals are shot instead being sent to jail, the less amount of your taxes is spent on their food and other crap.
>>80994745
>>implying you don't live in cucked noguns poland
We can literally own black powder weapons without a license or registration.
>>80996953
Let niggers shoot niggers and let their problem get bad enough that we can deport them to germany and sweden
Then use guns if they resist the deportation
>>80961180
Militarized police would help against the federal boot if it comes to that. A hedge, if you will.
>>80997756
Glad to hear that
Please conquer the rest of cucked europe soon
>>80997800
They might defect to the American people's side, but the police force as a branch of government would be lumped in and used just like the feds (who would also have many defectors)
>>80997800
Police are notoriously shit when up against someone who is willing to take the fight to them.
The majority of cops are patrolmen not SWAT.
>>80998183
Hence why they should be peacekeepers and servants of the general public, not patrolling soldiers.
>>80970656
>he think that niggers won't merely shoot you in the back of the head unannounced in the event of a race war
There is no honor in sucker punching and nigs don't give a damn about honor, our guns will only be useful when we know we are being engaged.
>>80999837
The only winner of a race war is the jews in control of the government you retard
Nobody cares what color peasants are fighting another color of peasants as long as the peasants are fighting peasants and not looking up at who controls their puppet oligarchy government
