There is literally nothing wrong with using cannabis within the privacy of your own home.
>>80932637
The smoke will stain your curtains
>>80932975
well you got me there
>>80932637
cannabis is for niggers and people lacking self control.
Smoking pot should be punishable by death.
>>80934287
What if I told you I enjoy weed while making 60,000 a year living comfortably and I'm white?
>>80934540
You still deserve to die.
>>80934540
I'd tell you if you tried harder that figure could be higher and if you don't try as hard as possible you are a degenerate.
>>80932637
Yep, see no problem here. Just don't start crying if your boss lets you go because you turned into a lazy fuck and your herb scent is making others unwilling to be around you
>>80934662
I know you probably don't have a lot of disposable income, being from an armpit of a country, but do you know anything about marijuana?
>>80934628
Why stress out over that? There's more to life than money.
>>80934662
People smell much worse from drinking too much booze. If you smell like weed at work it's because you smoked right before you went or there, both of which are stupid ideas.
>>80934764
Not enough to be talking strains and all that bollocks but I have smoked it plenty. Note that what I mean't is that you can't really be expecting everyone to agree with your choice to puff up. Mostly talking on a personal level, but i am allowed to
>>80932637
Legal pot brought $250M tax money for schools in Washington state in 3 years, also had 1B in sales. Crime rates didn't go up and employment didn't go down.
>b-b...
no
>>80934540
Your point? There's nigger rappers and drug dealers that make more than you.
The amount of money you make means nothing, you're still a drug using piece of shit and deserve no respect because of it.
>>80934992
Your state is virtually homogenous, whitey.
>>80934992
>$250M in 3 years
Man, I'm with you and all, but that doesn't sound like that much. What's washington's annual budget look like?
>>80934889
if you've reached optimal utility from money you should work towards something greater than like local politics
>>80934889
Yeah man, agree with you on that once more. I am talking generally here, not you the poster right now
>>80932637
That's for you OP
>>80932637
When you have POSSES DRUG PARAPHERNALIA and PARK CURFEW VIOLATION with court being on AUG 3rd 6:30pm IM PISSED in total to 155.50 for cerfew and 376.00 for paraphernalia.
>>80935114
Western WA is liberal and Eastern is conservative, the state is divided blue/red. Not homogeneous at all
>>80935171
I agree with you generally.
It's not for everyone and shouldn't be smoked until the brain is fully mature, generally speaking.
>>80934992
>Crime rates didn't go up
>>80935147
We're rich.
State Budget (billions $)
Washington 83.4 2013-15
Ban that wacky drug oxygen. How dare you let it soak your capillaries in such a disgusting fashion. Oxygenating your blood is for degenerate faggots.
>>80935011
At least he has a job, jose.
>>80935343
Exactly mate, generally of course.
>>80935246
>cerfew
Are you okay? Are you over 18?
>>80935268
I believe he meant racially, but it's less than 80% white.
>>80935212
jelly
>>80935268
I mean you don't know what it's like to live in a predominantly black city. Lots of folks start early, lack initiative and never develop coping mechanisms. It's not for everybody, but I think it should be decriminalized and researched more.
>>80934287
>>80934433
>>80934618
>>80934628
>>80934662
>Alt right man-children call people who smoke weed "degenerate" while jerking off to hentai and/or never leaving their room
>>80934540
>60k
t. Gorilla Zoe
>>80932637
As far as what the law should say, yes.
>>80935361
Explain to me how it's possible for crime rates to go up when Marijuana is legalized?
I'd be interested to hear this.
>>80935212
Frosty frosty trichomes.
>>80935645
Not even that, lad. I think drinking coke, smoking, and beer is degenerate.. but realistically you can't exactly stop anyone from doing all of it at once in private. You're right about me never leaving the room, though.
>>80935736
more people come because surrounding areas don't legalize it, in particular attracting the kind of people most likely to commit crime
Supposedly, Denver's homeless population shot up after CO legalized weed. Seems like if it was legal across the nation these particular issues wouldn't come up.
>>80935578
Hah... people have always smoked pot on the west coast. Cops didn't care if you walked in downtown Seattle smoking a joint - it was just something people did. White Americans do more drugs fyi black people are just incarcerated for it more.
Nearly 20 percent of whites have used cocaine, compared with 10 percent of blacks and Latinos, according to a 2011 survey from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration — the most recent data available. Higher percentages of whites have also tried hallucinogens, and marijuana. What's your point about living in a predominantly black city?
>it's alright to smoke tobacco
>it's alright to drink alcohol
>it's alright to drink soda and eat sugar
>it's alright to eat fast food
>can't smoke pot because it's an harmless drug that haven't killed anyone.
I don't smoke it but i believe what people do with themselves, it's their choice, not others.
Portugal decriminalized the use of drugs and the money went from the war on drugs, to the rehabilitation of addicted people and the rate use is actually lower.
>>80935736
I think crime rates would go down since possession would no longer be a criminal offense.
DUI is another thing altogether, but gib the violent high CBD so they mellow out, I say.
>>80935952
>more people come because surrounding areas don't legalize it, in particular attracting the kind of people most likely to commit crime
Which is why it should be legalized nationally.
>DUI is another thing altogether
DUI's wouldn't go up that much tbqh, a lot of people drive while high despite it being illegal
>>80935471
So do I.
>>80935961
It was b8, faggot. Crack isn't as bad a problem here anymore, but I always hated niggas rolling blunts. Harsh to me. When I want tobacco I'll smoke a cigarette.
>>80932975
/THREAD
Why do weed faggots never argue for the legalization of all drugs?
It's the same reasons.
>>80936165
yeah. as his gardener.
>>80934540
Snoop Dogg has a net worth of 135 million, doesn't mean he isn't degenerate.
>>80936310
pcp and crystal meth are pretty scary shit
>>80936363
Keep memeing all you want, degenerate
>>80936310
Many of us do...
>>80932975
>not smoking in your backyard
You must not have a lot of respect for your own property huh
>>80936310
They should all be legalized.
If you destroy the black market for drugs, they lose their value and therefore are no longer a viable financial option for criminals, which equals less dangerous drugs all together.
>>80936426
aww butthurt jose
>>80936310
Is this a real question? Even if you don't agree with marijuana legalization, the answer to that question should be pretty obvious if you're not a big dumb idiot.
>>80932637
Then why do you feel the need defend it?
>>80936424
Pretty sure the worst things people have done on those drugs people have also done while drunk.
>>80936636
FUCK YOU, I LIVE LITERALLY UNDER A FUCKEN LEAF 20 Y/O
>>80936636
Why do people defend the 2nd amendment? Why do people stand up for the freedom of speech? Do you even think before you post? Do you need help getting back to your reservation?
>>80936465
>within the privacy of your own home
>within
I was replying to OP. you don't even know if I smoke, fagget. [spoiler]I do [/spoiler]
>>80936617
I agree with legalization of all drugs so why don't you spell me out the answer.
If you think weed breeds degeneracy, you're half right. Indica weed does. Sativa weed used in the morning literally makes you smarter and healthier. Niggers almost exclusively use Indica because they don't know how to deal with the feeling of their brain being stimulated.
>>80936617
Decriminalization results in decreased use of drugs, not increased. And it's because the U.S still doesn't really know how to deal with addiction and mental illness - it's a bit of a crisis here
Examples being suicide: From 1999 to 2010, the suicide rate among American ages 35 to 64 increased nearly 30 percent.
And ofc the heroin epidemic. Shitshow all around.
>>80936699
I'm suggesting reasons why, not necessarily what I believe. Decriminalization of drug possession/use is still a good idea.
Fags. Look at Portugal. They legalized all drugs and everything all the nigger-type stats dropped by like 50%
>>80934433
This desu
>>80936846
I'm just pointing out that that logic is faulty and sensationalized.
Also, decriminalization is fucking stupid. The vast majority of problems from drug prohibition stem from its black market trade, not the criminilization of its personal use.
>>80935952
i highly doubt legal weed contributes to homelessness. liberal cities with large outreach networks are more like it. im in portland, the degenerate capital of the west coast. smoking weed is fine. stoners dont get in fights or beat their kids. they just eat pizza and play vidya. thats fine.
Denver Colorado is a Soros project with GMO infested weed. It probably gives cancer after like 5 years. FBIAnon subtly confirmed this I think. Seriously, keep buying illegal weed or darknet weed dudes, legal weed is a disaster.
>>80937324
Jesus fucking Christ that's some delusional bullshit.
>>80937562
Nah senpai. You just can't trust government-grown weed. Seriously. I would use it as a guinea pig program myself.
>>80937324
If you let it get into the hands of corporations and big pharma then that's definitely a possibility.
This is why the government should regulate it so that it is illegal to add chemicals and shit to it. But they won't lol
>>80937562
It is, but they do GM the strains to have less THC and all plants you can buy die after their first budding.
>>80932637
I agree
>>80932637
I'm really feeling the Johnson in this thread. And it Berns.
>>80936793
t. bro scientist
>>80935555
> giving someone shit for park curfew
> most parts close at dark, regardless of age
Weed is still illegal on a federal level, therefore it is degenerate.
>>80936310
Are you retarded? I can smoke 3 joints and go talk to customers if I use eyedrops.
But eyedrops wont save your ass on crack, heroin, and all those other fucking wack drugs
>>80938105
>3 joints
No you can't. Don't exaggerate to prove your point, everyone who has actually smoked weed knows you are full of shit.
>>80936941
their population halved?
>>80938255
> No you can't.
Uh yes I fucking can? And I'm sure 90% of people who aren't fucking lightweights can too
Don't try to tell me about my own life, non-smoking faggot.
>>80938308
shit nah like the drug usage and drug crime and really violent crime itself I think. it's just a way better place since they did that shit
>>80938079
Nice appeal to authority.
>>80938404
Okay tough guy. Either you are smoking the tiniest joints in the world or you have a major problem. Try a tolerance break some time, if you can handle it that is.
>>80938404
3 joints of what? How big of a joint?
>>80938079
That scheduling status and basis of illegality is a clear lie as has been proven over and over in suppressed study after suppressed study since the Shafer Commision in the 1970s, it would be degenerate to obey a law based on numerous lies and decades of corruption.
>>80938404
You got some bitch ass joints bro
What about using it and then leaving the privacy of your own home and then getting into a car and driving on public roads?
>>80938569
That's DUI. There's nothing wrong with drinking alcohol in your home either, but driving your car intoxicated is immoral.
>>80938569
Probably not as impairing as alcohol, but you should always be sober while driving
>>80938687
There isn't a proven link between marijuana and the kind of severely diminished motor skills associated with alcohol, in fact, marijuana is categorized as a performance enhancing drug by Olympic and sporting commissions because it can help aid focus and motor skill development over time.
>>80938471
>>80938471
> tough guy
> because I can offord to smoke as much as I want
Get a job and move out of mommys then maybe you could smoke like an adult.
>>80938529
3 joints of whatever my dude gets, always good shit though. Always at least .5g joint.
>>80938565
> half gram joints
> bitch joints
I've come to the conculsion you're all lightweight pussies who can't handle your bud or are kids still in high school. I've been smoking since 76' you fuckers don't know shit.
> Smoking weed is for degenerates
> But posting on 4chan at 2:00AM on a weeknight is totally not degenerate
Top fucking kek...
>>80938842
Doesn't matter. You should always drive sober.
>>80938898
It's your money, not mine.
>>80938898
Nobody's questioning whether or not you can afford it, retard. The fact that you are that old and trying to act all tough about all the pot you smoke on 4chan at like 2 in the morning is very telling about your lifestyle, though. Clearly you have smoked yourself retarded over all these years so there's really no point in arguing with you further. I hope you turn your life around some day.
>>80934540
He makes 60k a year and thinks it's a lot.
Fuck my generation.
>>80939100
>You should always drive sober.
Yes, that is why you should use weed instead of alcohol, so you will stay sober and not suffer all the negative effects of drunkenness.
>>80938842
Talking out of your ass. Everything that has even slight affect in you, from cough suyrup to anti-histamin is classified as doping.
I agree, OP. Thanks for your input.
>>80939200
I think it is a lot too. Definitely more than enough to get by.
>>80939243
>get in a wreck where you are not at all at fault
>go to jail
>get pulled over for a broken tail light
>go to jail
Is it really that hard to not be stoned when you drive?
>>80939200
$60k/year can be pretty comfy in a lot of the US.
>>80939243
>high
>sober
pick one and only one
>>80938772
Don't be a fuking retard
You can drink and drive easy if you're not a moron and depending on your own personal limit
Weed makes you paranoid , it turns you into a retard, your slowed way the fuck down in your reaction time.
Driving high is dangerous as fuck
Thing is legal or not - I'll still smoke it when I need it.
>>80932637
Quit 2 months ago. Never going back
>>80939389
Reported to SRI
>>80935114
That's not true, I'm not even from Washington state, and I know that there's a fair number of blacks and Asians in the Seattle area.
>>80939243
What part of DUI you don't get?
>>80939377
classic troll
>>80932975
>turning your home into a smokers den
>>80936310
Among few researches that have been done in the last few decades.
Direct multiple therapeutic effects were found on cannabis, MDMA, LSD and psilocybin.
Literally everything else is just not yielding enough data.
And all the drugs I've mentioned are schedule 1 so pretty fucked up to research.
Kids under fucked up cancer treatment that used to puke all the time and feel like shit - after ingesting pure THC - but doses low enough to no experience any alteration of perception - suddenly had their vomit inhibited and reported an increase in quality of life.
LSD had terrific results in treating all sorts of nasty addictions - and again from the ones I've mentioned there are pretty much no deaths, they're harmless themselves - with exception of MDMA as usually people take it in other forms, or they take bath salts being lied by their dealers - ending up dying - but it's a tiny tiny minority.
>>80939362
People without enough sleep, malnourished people, or people who just watched an hour of television perform worse on field sobriety tests than people on THC, sobriety is a term related to drunkenness and you can't get drunk on weed.
>>80938079
Kinder eggs are illegal because Americans kids ate them whole and potentially could've chocked to death... appeal to authority.
>>80939490
The part about being impaired.
>>80938079
Knowing that USA Feds are LITERALLY crack and heroin dealing Mafia, by your logic, non-organized crime and non-federal approved crack cocaine and heroin is degenerate.
>You can drink and drive easy if you're not a moron and depending on your own personal limit
>Weed makes you paranoid , it turns you into a retard, your slowed way the fuck down in your reaction time.
I think you got those two mixed up nigger. Weed doesn't affect reaction time, paranoia is rare, and alcohol makes you 100x more retarded.
I actually drive better while high because I'm more relaxed and feel less "in a hurry" like I always do while sober. Never even attempted to drive drunk.
>>80938404
You're degenerate tho - no one cares what huge amounts of weed you can smoke - it damages you in such quantities. It works by locking receptors so overexciting of them just results of their sudden death - that's why you require entire grams of weed for one session compared to a normal human that gets high from one smoke.
>>80939747
It does impair you, whether you want to admit it or not. Your reaction time will never be as short as it would be if you were sober. This has been proven time and time again.
>But I drive just fine!
That may be true, but what's the point of risking jailtime or an accident if you don't have to?
>>80939747
The term use is influence. Are you saying weed doesnt influence you in any way that could affect your driving in negative way? For what I understand, it relaxes and nulls your reaction speed/perception, depending ofcourse on amount you use, but that is irrelevant in this case.
Fucking potfags, I hate you people. You base your entire pointless lives on a plant.
You all sound like drunk fucking surfers too like woah, brah.
>>80939917
Yes, it would be if you were too tired, too rested or relaxed, too hungry, too full, you just binge watched a movie, you just took a test, you just broke up with someone, you just met someone new, you have someone else in the car, you have the radio too loud, you have the radio too quiet, etc.
>>80940064
> Are you saying weed doesnt influence you in any way that could affect your driving in negative way?
You're clueless how many Romanians smoke weed while driving - and pretty much none ever get involved in car crashes - I never heard of such a case yet so many guys of my generation just drive baked - and been with them in car - it's pretty hilarious. They're actually more careful with traffic because of their state.
While douchebags that drink alcohol are the norm everyday at news.
+ let's not talk about the amount of weed users that drive in UK, USA and so on - it's retardedly huge.
>>80932637
It smells like fucking burnt plastic 100x worse than tobacco, I can smell it from my house. The shit is pure cancer.
>>80934628
>trying
>at all
get a load of this faggot cuck
>>80940064
Lots of things influence you, you would have to have crazy draconian laws where other people ended up driving you around most of the time to make every drive perfectly safe, the law should regard what is reasonable safe and they haven't shown at what level of influence weed becomes unreasonably unsafe when even the much more dangerous alcohol has a limit to which you can drink and be considered safe.
>There is literally nothing wrong with using cannabis within the privacy of your own home.
if you have 0 obligations for the next hour or so, then yes
>>80940149
Many of those things you listed are unavoidable, and no, you shouldn't ever drive while sleep deprived if you can help it. The difference is you make a conscious decision to smoke and the effects of impairment are typically much greater, given the typical amount one would normally smoke in one sitting.
Sorry friend, but if you cannot put the pipe down long enough to drive sober, you are mentally addicted. End of discussion. I hope for your sake and the sake of everyone else on the road that you get pulled over for a minor traffic violation and subsequently arrested before something tragic happens. People like you give the anti-legalization crowd plenty of fuel for their arguments.
>>80940149
Sure, but there is laws against driving when you arent capable. The fine will be according to the cause, wether it was reckless driving due to not paying attention(music, phone, etc.) DUI(consumed substance with negative affects) or just tired(atleast here they judge you based on your interaction and make you walk a line etc.)
>>80932637
>>80934287
www.newscientist.com/article/2096440-founders-of-western-civilisation-were-prehistoric-dope-dealers/
>>80932637
>tfw all your foumding fathers exchanged tips on how to get the dankest weed while changing the world forever
Just legalize it.
>>80940516
Why should it matter why you failed to walk the line and why should you be punished if you pass and can walk the line better than 80% of the other people tested?
>>80940493
>The difference is you make a conscious decision to smoke
All the things I mentioned are conscious decisions, eating, sleeping, engaging in activities that may induce stress or relaxation hormones aren't unconscious efforts.
>>80940469
Name one thing you can't do under cannabis - other than memorizing important stuff ( it still can be done ) since you have cannabinoid receptors in hippo-campus.
>>80940188
>Romania
>relevant
Not in case when judging 1st world traffic laws and practices.
>>80940452
Yeah, that is true. If they would do tests on consumed amount to affect in motoric/perception they could set something else than 0 tolerance, but due to substance being mostly illegal there wont be such thing. Wont comment on illegality of weed, irrelevant to me in general.
>>80934628
>>80935011
>>80935663
>>80936402
>>80939200
Thanks for the (yous) tbqh I don't even make anywhere near that I work a shitty restaurant job and I'm going to school and occasionally smoke weed.
>>80932637
Yeah if you actually had a home. You losers all live in apartments and that shit goes through the vents or blows off your balcony around the whole community. Then you think it's okay to get in your cars and drive because "you're fine" and "it's not a drug."
There's a lot wrong with it that your half-witted mind doesn't see. Keep supporting cartel warlords and pretending you're all about peace and love. And don't say legalizing it will take any profit away from those animals, the legal shit is too expensive so people still buy the cheap shit off the streets anyway. Its been tried and it failed.
>>80940765
>All the things I mentioned are conscious decisions
Uh no, they were not. Read your own post again. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're high right now, which is why your argument is so incoherent. If that's the case then I really don't see any point in continuing this discussion.
>>80940866
>imblying relevant
nice memes.
You're a suicidal nation of alcoholics - what do you have to say really?
>>80940776
dream
>>80940942
Kek got me there.
>>80940906
What a dumb dumb. Learn from the Netherlands you stupid amerifats.
>>80932637
>sayid no one ever
>>80940906
I live in a house out in the country.
>legal shit is too expensive
top fucking kek, you can buy an ounce in Denver for less than $200.
>>80940866
>If they would do tests on consumed amount to affect in motoric/perception
They have done tests and they can't conclusively pinpoint unsafe levels of THC just like they haven't been able to justify its scheduling status or illegality since the 1970s, why not set arbitrary levels for aspirin and allergy medicine too.
>>80932637
Id go as far as to say on your own property but yeah sure. although the fucking dumbies, the same ones who kill eachother while drunk will ruin it for you.
>>80935212
Pepe approves this.
>>80940636
Depends. Walking the line isn't only thing judging your ability to drive. They got to have some ways to test motoric skills. Not saying the ones used are the best.
>>80934540
don't have kids then, they'll grow up on it and not even finish college, then end up sucking away that 60,000 of yours on dope
It's amazing how dubm people can be - they think cannabinoid system in body even altered would impair driving skills with anything.
It's literally relating with emotions in most cases and the generate state it induces is bliss.
And thc does nothing to your body - except binding to the receptors, we have so little of them that even if we would burn most of them by some absurd accident - nothing would happen, not even death or life being impaired too much.
I think people just like to have dumb opinions about everything while lacking basic understanding of how stuff works - probably home schooled or something.
>>80940913
this post >>80940149?
>too tired, too rested or relaxed, too hungry, too full, you just binge watched a movie, you just took a test, you just broke up with someone, you just met someone new, you have someone else in the car, you have the radio too loud, you have the radio too quiet
Which one of those is an unconscious action?
Why can't there be laws on when you have to sleep based on what tests most efficient and then you always have to just sit in a corner and look at a wall for at least an hour before driving in complete silence with your cell phone turned off and locked in the trunk?
>>80941060
Actually, atleast here there is really vague rule "If you feel your ability to drive is weakened, your prohibited from doing so". Most stronger allergy pills have warning that tells you not to drive under influence. Don't know about USA's pharma policies, but in here they are strictly government regulated.
>>80941344
There are laws stating you arent capable to drive when you'r tired/fatigued etc.
>>80932637
There is when you'd rather buy dope instead of food for your children
>>80941735
Since that is not quit oppressive enough to make the road perfectly safe, we still need to let people know they can't do anything at all for at least an hour but they have to do something before driving since exercise/strenuous activity as well as relaxing or being entertained can raise stress hormones or endorphins that have been shown to impair motor skills on average, maybe just make it a mandatory law to stand a foot from an empty wall and stare at it for an hour before driving.
>>80942077
I'd add security service that makes sure people actually execute their mandatory pre-drive preparation. And you cant drive unless they accept it and write a permit.
>>80942077
Law for being tired is pretty useless tho. People tend to find out you "drove tired" when you crash, and then it doenst really matter.
>>80934540
I make 500 euros a month and smoke it daily.
But it's okay because I'm an intellectual, it's not like my wisdom is going away in smoke, lol.
>>80934433
neocons are quite literally the most pathetic out of the conservative spectrum
>hurr i hate druggies and niggers and spics so ill be a douche-nigger to anyone who wants to medicate via smoke
MC
FUCKING
OFF
YOURSELF
>>80932637
Amen, brother!
>>80944254
I earn 800€ a week, I smoke pot daily, I enjoy life, I'm still smarter than 80% of the Proles around me, who still cry about chemtrails, Kalergi plan and other hoaxes
>>80944254
>But it's okay because I'm an intellectual, it's not like my wisdom is going away in smoke, lol.
https://www.google.by/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=gashish+schizophrenia
Fact: The only people who don't like weed are the people who never tried it.
>>80938105
Confirmed for not know anything about heroin
Out of curiosity, what do you think a habitual heroin users look and act like while under the influence?
I was in active heroin addiction for three years and I was guaranteed to have a good day if I got my dose. You feel confident, smart and smooth. There's a reason it's called 'heroin' (from hero).
Being sick though, you look like a mess, but even then it's not that bad. Just like severe flu symptoms. But you wouldn't be out and about them anyway. But heroin, without a doubt, makes you competent and productive as fuck in the honeymoon dosage/first two years of use
>>80932975
JUST
>>80935645
dis, mane
just toke de erb mane
be peacefal like de otha blakk countries where dey be tokin
where es da erb dere be peace
