I'm well informed, open to many ideas, am capable of humoring other ideas without taking personal offense. At 24, I've been a neo-con, a liberal, an advocate of social democracy and libertarian. I've changed so much due to education then real world experience and talking to people with different ideas. I've been on the fence for my political affiliation lately.
What do you believe in /pol/?
1. Racism is correct and and the world would be better without non-Whites. They're all some blend of stupid, violent, and corrupt. (East Asians are okay. Fuck you, spics, you're not White).
2. Immigrants are bad. Even if they're "good people who truly need help." They can never truly view their new country as "theirs," and will therefore never truly fight for it. The exception is if the migrants and the natives look almost identical, or the natives are completely removed.
3. Capitalism advances technology and produces better products. Because it makes products better and cheaper, even stupid poor people benefit the most from capitalism. That said, it still needs to have limits. It's not a perfect system.
4. Culture needs to be controlled to promote being a smart, productive members of society.
>>80895733
>Racism is correct and and the world would be better without non-Whites. They're all some blend of stupid, violent, and corrupt. (East Asians are okay. Fuck you, spics, you're not White).
To an extent it can be realistic, the problem is that people can get very carried away with it and see ti as the end all be all. You need to find a reasonable balance. Asians are great though.
>2
Well, I've met patriotic and assimilating immigrants. Some are a net loss absolutely, but it's not always bad. Indians and asians tend to be great.
>3
Whole heartedly agree.
>4
I see a lot of /pol/ believes this, and I think it's a dangerous road to go down. Where the hell do you draw the line? Is forced culture even culture? I see organic and genuine culture as far better than some forced ideals and philosophy.
>>80894544
I believe that the odds are more in favour of global thermonuclear war than colonization of Mars and Venus
Politics, entertainment, wars, religion, technology, virtual reality, gene therapy; none of that matters in the long run since we are dead set on destroying ourselves in one way or the other
>>80896749
The more I think about it, the more I think you're right. The thing is, even in case of strategic thermonuclear warfare, those in charge have deep deep underground refuges and seed banks. They will survive and our civilization will never be destroyed, just paused.
>>80894544
There is no point in anything, only curiosity compels us to persevere and see how it ends. This is also the only reason we procreate. Do with your life what you will it makes no difference in the end.
>>80896230
>Well, I've met patriotic and assimilating immigrants. Some are a net loss absolutely, but it's not always bad. Indians and asians tend to be great.
My area has a lot of Asian immigrants. A lot are genuinely great, hardworking people who believe in making this country better.
But after really talking to them, spending years with them.
It has become clear that, deep down, they don't truly believe this is their country. They don't care about the country itself. They don't care about it's power or legacy. It's just not important to them.
>I see a lot of /pol/ believes this, and I think it's a dangerous road to go down. Where the hell do you draw the line? Is forced culture even culture? I see organic and genuine culture as far better than some forced ideals and philosophy.
Dealing with Chinese people taught me how important and powerful it is. It absolutely can work and it works beautifully. We absolutely need to do it too.
>>80897366
I live for my loved ones and my community. I understand that we are tribal apes meant to live in groups of 120-150 and going with that nature is the best way to be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism
>>80897451
Anon, I hate to break it to you, but how many people actually do care about this nation deep down? Immigrant or not.
>>80895733
>(East Asians are okay.
God no. Those termites are like Jews on steroids.
>>80897366
Also this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number
>>80897796
They have excellent crystalline intelligence. They honestly are smarter than white people with analysis of concepts and problems. Not as creative or as good on the fly, but jesus christ.
>>80897928
They're also subversive and destructive to the world around them. East Asians in white nations spend every second of their day working to make the land they're in more like their homeland. They vote for policies that reflect the destructive socialist policies of their motherland. In their own homelands, they consume natural resource like candy and raze the land to erect more concrete termite mounds.
>>80898402
They are valuable and better at white people in some aspects. There's not many of them any way relative to whites. I genuinely believe America could use a few million more Koreans, Chinese and Japanese.
>>80898588
>They are valuable and better at white people in some aspects
Like fucking what?
>There's not many of them any way relative to whites.
They outnumber us at least three to one.
>I genuinely believe America could use a few million more Koreans, Chinese and Japanese.
Why?
>>80894544
If Hillary wins I'm going full evil psychopath and jewing you goyim to the last dime.
>>80898774
>Like fucking what?
Math. Obviously mathematics. Their IQ is higher as well, I suspect due to their high crystalline intelligence. AKA math and analytic thinking.
>They outnumber us at least three to one.
Yes, not in America though. I don't want it that way, just make a couple percent more of our population East Asian and I'll be happy.
>>80898816
Rude
Anything but a Traditional conservative, nationalistic country with public banks is doomed to become corrupted and to fail. I agree with Alain de benois and Mussolini on most things.
>>80899115
I agree with public banks, not traditional conservatism but yes nationalism to some significant degree.
>>80899030
We've been doing mathematics without them for thousands for years. We didn't need them then, and in that time we advanced at a greater rate than they did. Why do we suddenly need them now?
>>80899551
We don't "need" them. I just think it would benefit us to ship in some brilliant slanty eyed people. I've never met a stupid asian, I've met plenty of dumb white people.
>>80894544
>What do you believe in /pol/?
Humanity is irredeemable. It would be best if humans went extinct. All those things that racists claim about blacks? Absolutely true. However, they're also true of whites, just to a lesser extent.
We're (humans) too stupid and easily manipulated to be trusted with democracy.
Too greedy and short sighted to be trusted with monarchy.
We barely qualify as intelligent life.
Please, God, just end it.
>>80899659
>I've never met a stupid asian
Because they don't send serfs to infiltrate our land.
>>80899681
Uh going extinct means me and my loved ones, fuck that.
I think you're just depressed man.
>>80899817
Fair point. Still Japanese and Koreans score very well on IQ tests, and stereotypes are true about them killing it at math and that type of thinking.
>>80899659
The masses of stupid ones don't manage to escape their homeland for otherplace.
Just like people on China have never met a redneck.
>>80900099
I'm not sure if Japan or Korea have masses of stupid ones like we do.
>>80900099
Just throwing it out there, I'm friends with a half Korean half jew and he was predictably the smartest motherfucker I've ever encountered.
>>80899887
Not an argument
>>80900099
>The masses of stupid ones don't manage to escape their homeland for otherplace.
Exactly. They live and die in the sweatshops.
>>80900315
If you weren't depressed, you wouldn't want all of humanity to go extinct. Hence, it is an argument.
>>80900405
False assumption and non sequitur
Still not an argument
I'm sure you and your loved ones are mostly lovely people. Unfortunately, they're also mostly retarded.
>>80900940
I remember when I was 17.
>>80899681
You sound like a typical jrpg villian desu _fam
>>80900348
Serious question, does Japan have sweatshops?
>>80897732
People do, just not in the sense of patriotism for the U.S as a whole. I like my state and would fight in a war to protect it if the need came, the rest of the states can go fuck themselves though.
I'm sure other people feel the same about a hometown, family, friends etc
>>80899301
I'm not talking banning alcohol/burkhas. Just moral objectivity, doing what is right. i.e. executing murderers and repeat offenders, strict punishments for those who harm the country. A promotion of family values and a general disdain for degenerate homosexual lifestyles.
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>>80901121
>>80901145
>>80902061
Moral objectivity literally is an oxymoron.
Regardless, I'll take a crack.
Repeat offenders is too far, but I guess it depends on the crime. Maybe 2nd degree murder twice or violent rape.
>A promotion of family values and a general disdain for degenerate homosexual lifestyles.
How do you legislate disdain or homosexual lifestyle and define degenerate with a couple specifics please. I'm sure you're bright, but I can't argue unless we speak the same language.
>>80902203
Not an argument is not always a good rebuttal. If you say some stupid shit like humanity is too stupid, needs to go extinct and all people are inherently stupid, you're just wrong and that's that.
Well you're not "wrong" except for the intelligence thing, you're just wicked bitter and depressed.
>>80902496
I'm not wrong at all. Deal with it, nerd.
>>80903034
I'm not the one with clinical depression lmao
Wanting everyone to die and the world to end is literally a textbook symptom of severe depression. It's in your dreams isn't it? Yeah, have fun.
>>80903034
>>80899681
>>80900940
>DIE, DIE, DIE!!
>>80902496
I'm slightly intoxicated but I'll do my best. I talking about a rigid moral framework based on traditional christian teachings that can be argued from within. i.e. there are some lines that cannot be crossed: betraying your country, treason, murder,rape etc (I haven't really thought this part through in terms of specific cultures but bear with me). So basically there's a list of do's and don'ts in terms of social behaviour/deviance.
Homosexual acts have no effect whatsoever on society at large, however I believe that homosexuals are more likely to be promiscuous, more likely to use unprotected sex and are less likely to be monogamous. This creates a sub-group of people who are entirely self-focused i.e. focused on their own physical pleasures and plights, whilst ignoring the struggles of society as a whole. It divides people. I'd be happy for homosexuals to keep bumming each other in secret whilst the rest of the society tacitly accepts that it happens. I'm not against homosexuality per se, just the promotion of it.
Does that make sense, like I say I'm pretty drunk and high on benzos so I might be speaking complete shite.
>>80903325
I'm buzzing on addies, give me a min.
>>80903139
>Wanting everyone to die and the world to end is literally a textbook symptom of severe depression
Uh no... that would definitely be a symptom exclusive to one person or a few. Wanting everyone to die is not a normal symptom for clinical depression.
Source: had it for a few years
>>80903403
Not everyone has every symptom obviously, I'm just telling you that it is a symptom that people experience and it was definitely in my textbooks at least twice.
>>80903401
>>80903325
Wow what great Ubermensch we are!
>>80903616
Lol I'm literally jewish. I look aryan as fuck and when I grow my hair out I get jew jokes. Partying is fine if you can control yourself my dude.
>>80903284
>>80903139
u kno im rite tho
>>80903756
I'm joking, just think it's funny how we are discussing morality whilst intoxicated. Excess in moderation, my friend.
>>80903325
>Homosexual acts have no effect whatsoever on society at large, however I believe that homosexuals are more likely to be promiscuous, more likely to use unprotected sex and are less likely to be monogamous. This creates a sub-group of people who are entirely self-focused i.e. focused on their own physical pleasures and plights, whilst ignoring the struggles of society as a whole. It divides people. I'd be happy for homosexuals to keep bumming each other in secret whilst the rest of the society tacitly accepts that it happens. I'm not against homosexuality per se, just the promotion of it.
So would you make it illegal to show gays in media for example?
>>80903840
Lol no I don't dude. Let me explain it to you, your brain isn't a computer. Your thoughts are heavily influenced by your feelings, mood and personality. It may make sense to you that humanity needs to die, but to a mentally healthy person it is absurd and repulsive for obvious reasons. Also, calling everyone stupid is objectively wrong, by what standard could humans be stupid? Humans are literally the smartest animals on this planet and there are more than likely billions of people more intelligent than you.
>>80903325
>This creates a sub-group of people who are entirely self-focused i.e. focused on their own physical pleasures and plights, whilst ignoring the struggles of society as a whole.
>like I say I'm pretty drunk and high on benzos
I do drugs myself and am not one to judge... but do you not see hypocrisy there?
>>80903983
Lol more than that, you're on downers, I'm on uppers. I'm also baked so we'll see how that plays in
>>80903840
For example, I totally rationalized why humanity should go extinct when I was clinically depressed, as I'm sure you have. It made perfect sense.
Then, I got my life together and I cringe looking back at myself just wallowing in those dark and irrational thoughts.
Common sense is essential.
If your teacher says blacks are your friends, but your gut is telling you to avoid that pack of niggers across the street, trust your gut. Your teachers will get you killed.
Step confidently in everything you do, and you won't be the only one who believes you can do what you desire to.
Learn how to take a loss when it comes.
Pick your battles ~~~carefully.~~~
Trust no one. At all.
Fuck bitches, get money.
They'll come knocking one day. Have your magazines full and your guns clean when they do.
Time will always be more valuable than money.
When a politician, news anchor, Muslim, liberal, actor, or nigger is talking, they're lying.
The world has to burn before it can be tolerable again. Let it happen, don't worry about anyone else, get yours and keep it to yourself.
Avoid women with children. Just don't do it.
>>80904064
That's a point but I'm on benzos because I got prescribed them to come down from a manic episode. I'm drunk (slightly) because I want to feel good. I'll still go in to work in a couple of days and perform fine. What I'm talking about is widespread drug use and promescuity in the homosexual community. Monogomous couples are a rarity.
>>80904022
I didn't say that the idea of ending humanity wasn't absurd and repulsive, but that doesn't make it wrong.
Objectively speaking, the vast majority of humans are complete morons. Out of thousands of years of civilization and billions of lives, only a small handful of humans have had the capacity to truly understand the world around them. The rest of us learn parlor tricks and mimicry.
>there are more than likely billions of people more intelligent than you.
There are MAYBE 15 people total in the entire world more intelligent than me, and I'm an utter retard.
>>80904503
Sorry man. It may sound like bullshit, but look into vitamin supplements like Vitamin D and magnesium. I'm quite positive it was a significant factor in my recovery.
If you get bags under your eyes all the time, magnesium gets rid of those as well.
>>80904713
>Objectively speaking, the vast majority of humans are complete morons.
By whose standards?
>There are MAYBE 15 people total in the entire world more intelligent than me, and I'm an utter retard.
Oh nevermind. Literal teenager/child confirmed. Come back when you're 18 dude, this place isn't good for growing minds anyway.
>>80904797
I'm allright my dumbass paki gp just doubled my sertraline dose to 100mg and I lost it for a little bit. I know /pol/ is very anti 'ssri jew' but they do help temporarily when you've got a negative thought pattern ingrained. Think:Stefan Molyneuxs childhood. Women can be cruel man. I've got black bags like shit, will magnesium defo help?
>>80904713
>There are MAYBE 15 people total in the entire world more intelligent than me
>MAYBE
this can't be serious
>>80904968
>By whose standards?
Anyone with half a brain and two eyes.
>>80894544
The alt right suffers from the same degeneracy as the left. That is, a complete refusal to take responsibility for their own life and an inclination to blame others for their own lack of competitiveness.
A lot of what you will see here in /pol/ are comments about identity politics and race. This is because the majority of posters here are NEETs, unemployed fat virgins seeking an excuse for their own personal failings.
Don't fall for this degeneracy and defeatist attitude.
>>80905199
of course not. I assumed the absurdity was enough that I didn't have to literally type "/s" at the end.
>>80905173
It's cool man I got beaten and neglected too I see you.
SSRI's do certainly work specifically with severe/clinical depression.
Magnesium will get rid of the black bags. You'll look so much better and that will make you feel better too. I took a three pronged approach to beating depression.
It was daily exercise, magnesium, vitamin D, and seeing a therapist trained in cognitive behavioral therapy. I did all three at the same time and it was my most successful attempt by far. This leads me to believe that it had some real effect. It's fact that the bags under my eyes dissapeared because of it.
>>80905283
I don't man, you've nailed it down pretty well.
I'm weird, I've hated /pol/ since the start but I come here to argue with people for fun. I just like it and I know a lot about politics and societal topics so it interests me too.
I would do this somewhere else, but reddit fucking sucks for this type of discussion. The points system ruins everything, also heavy corporate and state moderation and shills.
>>80905532
Thanks man, I only got hit in fits of rage but what really damaged me were days of being ignored. Happy days contrasted with days where the same things I'd done previously were terrible and wrong. Taught me to completely mistrust the world.Going to try magnesium, SSRIs are playing their part just now ut Im suspicious Going back to a nursing degree in march though so that's a positive, wan't to help the real disadvantaged people in my country. All the best to you man, god bless.
>>80905914
Cheers buddy, best of luck.
>>80905283
Actually, do you do that same? You clearly get why /pol/ is mostly shit but you're stil here.
>>80905469
You can't be wrong multiple times and then pepper in sarcasm dude. That's like taking little shits and putting ritz crackers in the middle and then wondering why no one grabbed a cracker
>>80901736
They did in he mid twentieth century.
>>80907074
I find your thread to be shit. You've yet to present a single idea worthy of provoking any amount of thought.
>>80907953
What do they just outsource it to Chinamen too?
>>80908458
Alright, I think nationalizing unused land and all important natural resources to be publicly owned is a good idea. What's wrong with that? Maybe you agree with it.
