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How do you react when edgy fags say they wish the U.S. would fall do the retards even realize how shit it would be if the U.S. wasn't the world superpower the alternatives are horrible.
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navy and air force are all that matters
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>>80800705
Wow you don't want china to be the only global super power?! You fucking racist!
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Test
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>>80800812

FPBP

Not only that, this graph excludes other key factors like Aircraft Carriers (10 to 1)
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who cares about China m8?

:^)
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Thats it, i am now a #chinksympathiser, good victory and happy emperor and sharing will come to you if you post 'fri rye 2 dolla extra'
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>>80801015
How is the UK ahead of China and Russia militarily?
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>62 fucking destroyers to 17

Stay cucked china, kek
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>>80801015
RULE BRITANNIA
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>>80800843
China isn't a superpower.

And Russia is closer to superpower status than China.
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>>80801032
fri rye 2 dolla extra :^)
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>>80800812
This.

Each destroyer can fire out hundreds of hellfire missiles in a matter of minutes. They could level whole cities if they wanted to just with their navy.
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>>80800705
Where are they getting these numbers? USA has 6,000 Abrams tanks alone.
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I actually feel sick, a strong repulsion when i hear young leftists appleloving starbucks drinking emofagits who can't get a break from their social networks to go on an don about how great the world would be without the USA
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>>80800812
You can't win wars by bombing people (unless you use nukes)

First post dumbest post
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>>80800976
This so much, but also the quality of materials. I'm guaranteeing you a good half of those artillery pieces and tanks are Cold War-era, and there's a difference between nuclear subs like the US has a ton of and conventional subs, which are what I bet most of China's are.
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>>80801232
A ballistic submarine can carry up to 288 ~350kt warheads.

One Ohio Class submarine could destroy the world as we know it.
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>>80800705
>how shit it would be if the U.S. wasn't the world superpower

Yeah so horrible nobody would back ISIS and other puppet terrorists for oil moneys
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>>80801618
And they can't do shit with their soldiers if they can't get them on land. They have no way of getting on US soil with no air/sea control.
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I sort of wish we would cut back and let those edgy fags suffer.
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>>80801618

Yes you can. You merely can't hold ground with bombs and missiles. Just the presence of an aircraft carrier can avert a war.
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Gook army
>Highly intelligent
>Genetically similar
>Detail-oriented af
>Disciplined

US Military
>Mystery meat leadership
>Trannies
>Fags


I for one welcome our dog-eating overlords.
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>>80801135
Too many ties to other countries

You can be sure that if the UK gets into trouble, the rest of the anglosphere + anglosphere's allies will back it up.
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>>80801926
>>80801032
fri rye 2 dolla extra
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>>80800705
>China: 2,571
Aren't those mostly Mig17's and 21's?
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>>80801892
>>80801918
OH yeah, Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam were amazing examples of winning wars with bombs. Silly me
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All of chinas shit will break. God damn chink shit is worthless.
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>>80802037
Yes and most of their main battle tanks are dated. ~2400 of their tanks are from the 50s'.
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>>80802077
Bombs were the most successful part of all of those wars. The problem was that the homefront bitched about them killing enemy civs.
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>>80802077
>bombing shitty insurgencies = actual strategic warfare between two powers
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>>80800705
Armed citizens
China: 0
USA: 200 Million
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>>80801618
there are limitations, like the stone-age sand countries you struggled with, but any modernized countries with most infrastructure bombed would self-implode.
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>>80802077
I never even said anything about bombs, fucktard. I only talked about control.
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>>80802037
>>80802178
Also I should mention that the US came up against many of these tanks during the Gulf War.

The outcome was what's now called the highway of death.
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>>80800705
The US is a lot like Batman. He doesn't really reduce the crime rate, he creates more super-villains than he stops, and he could be doing a lot more efficient things with his money. Yet people still think he's a hero because he is fighting crime.
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>>80800705
>he doesnt know many of their planes are from the soviet era and most of their tanks are 30+ years old

Lol..
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>>80800705
>numbers vs numbers
>all equipment is equal
That image is pants on head. Chinaboos are the worst.
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>>80802426
wait wait wait, how old are you f-16s and f-18s again?
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>>80800705
pretty sure we have a fuckton more tanks than that.

anyway, China will always have a huge number of artillery and ground forces, in large part due to necessity. same goes for Russia, and the reasoning is very simple. both countries have the largest boarders by far, and are surrounded by countries that view them very suspiciously (tho the situations are different; while the world is suspicious about a growing China, Russia at least has some old satellite states that like the idea of joining back up again).

in a way we're very lucky in the US, geographically speaking, and we always have been. only two boarders to guard, only one that really matters, oceans on both other sides and miles of water between us and everybody else. the only exception is the short distance in the Caribbean, but it's not that heavily populated of a place. honestly, i could go on for hours about how geographic superiority, from plentiful natural resources we haven't even exploited yet, to the most arable farming land in the world, to plentiful sources of water (east of the Rockies, at least, lol).
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>>80800705
>How do you react when edgy fags say they wish the U.S. would fall

I always figured it was Eurofags just sperging on the internet. With what I've learned about Europe's recent demographic change, I'm starting to think it's just butthurt Muslims.
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>>80802301
Aren't there enough guns in this country to supply the entire population 3 times over? I'd fucking hate to be the invading force that had to deal with a completely armed citizenry.
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>>80801618
>You can't win wars by bombing people (unless you use nukes)

Tell that to Germany.
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>>80802513
Im pretty sure japan ran the odds of invading the US and it was basically impossible
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China's two most common tanks, account for 5000 of their 6500 strong armory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96_tank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_59_tank

The Abrams has its shortcomings but it would absolutely shred both
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>>80802468
Most F-16's and F-18's are heavily modernized, can't say the same a for large portion of the Chinese Air Force, Russia literally probably has a better air force than them.
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>>80802513
No, there are only enough to arm about 80% of the population. But even then, 80% of the population is still 275 million people with guns.
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>>80800705
The majority of their tanks and artillery pieces are outdated as china has only recently renovated their military. So there are a large amount of t72s and the like.
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>>80802663
India's got a better military than China.
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>>80802301
Actually firearm ownership rate in the US is only estimated to be about 33% (of adults).

People who own guns just own more.

So your math doesn't work out.
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>>80802442
And that image conveniently fails to mention the most important of them.

Pic related.
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>>80802780
Still enough to arm that many desu. Its more like 175 million because iirc about 75million of that are pistols
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>>80802077
as if guerrilla warfare was the same thing as conventional warfare. we absolutely destroyed the iraqi army.
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>>80802674
Is that really it? It feels like it should be way higher than that, especially with all of the gun collectors around.
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>>80802513
>>80802674
There's more guns than people although it certainly isn't 3 times over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/05/guns-in-the-united-states-one-for-every-man-woman-and-child-and-then-some/
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>>80802907
Aircraft carriers are white elephants.
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>>80801393
Not to mention the US military has pleaded with congress to stop building more...kek
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>>80800705
God that was fucking horrible to read
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>>80801197
Russia has been on a decline since 1970 and will never recover. Their population is falling and their educated workforce fleeing the sinking ship.
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>>80802780
Ok, so assuming your statistic is correct...

Armed citizens
China: 0
USA: 100 Million

And trust me, if we got invaded, I'm sure some people with more guns than hands will be willing to share.
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>>80802663
>modernized
There are things on fighter jets that can't be replaced, like the main frame, due to metal fatigue etc.

F-16s are set to be replaced by F-35s, and with way F-35s are looking, you guys have some serious problem replacing old planes.
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>>80803029
>says increasingly nervous chinaboo
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>>80803055
We literally just keep them in a field in the desert so they don't rust.
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>>80801135
Dat NATO technology
Srs, Russian and Chinese equipment is cheap shit. They have manpower and tanks but that amounts to shit in modern engagement.
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>>80801015
>a ramp
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>>80801015
>>80801186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdxvedxPhNU
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>>80803217
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
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>>80803208
Still doesn't negate the fact the US has a metric fuck ton of modernized F-16's F-18's what alone would shred China's air force, this isn't including all the shit we have laying in bone yards what could be ready to fly relatively quickly if it was truly needed.

Protip: This is one of many of these bone yards, and we have the same thing for decommissioned naval ships.
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What does mighty Australia have?
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>>80803029

Don't worry Zhao I'm sure your CHINA STRONK MIRACLE SUPER MISSILE is just as good.
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King Nigger has cucked our glorious military. If we went to war with a major country, such as China, we would be unsuccessful.

"I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion." -- Alexander the Great

Our current leadership is pretty shit. We have no Patton. No MacArthur. No Pershing. No Eisenhower. No Nimitz. No Washington. No Scott. No Jackson. No Lee. No Grant. No Sherman. The list goes on of tremendous military leaders.

It's fucking disgusting what has happened to our military leadership recently.
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>>80803208
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>>80803568
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

the navy got beat so badly in their own war game that they changed the result.
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>>80803208
>and with way F-35s are looking, you guys have some serious problem replacing old planes.

The F-35 program is steaming along just fine.
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>>80801618
No but you can arserape their economies into more cock please submission
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>>80803633
It's only going to get worse as they try to fill a quota for diversity and let just about anyone join the military next you'll have a transgender, amputee, deaf and blind person as a military leader PC culture has gone to far.
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>>80801015
>A FUCKING RAMP
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>>80800812
marine cucks BTFO
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>>80801232
>destroyer
>hellfires
>leveling cities
Oh leaf, I know you can't into war but fucking christ you're stupid.
Hellfires are the tiny atg or gtg missiles that we strap to fucking everything because they're small and relatively cheap EXCEPT OUR MAJOR VESSELS. Because nothing should ever be in the effective range of a hellfire when you're a goddamn Burke and naval combatants wouldn't phased by the over-sized flying grenade that is the hellfire. They instead have a fuckload of vertical launch tubes stuffed with cruise missiles (tomahawks of various specs), quad packed ESSMs for shooting down planes and hostile missiles, ASROCs, ERAMS for extra-long range ass fucking, 161's for when you need to fuck something up in space, torpedoes, and the five inch gun.

The only way you'd have a hellfire being used at sea is if they launch a cobra from the flight deck of a vessel to shoot at like, small boats.
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>>80800705
Doesn't anyone know what a force multiplier is? Numbers aren't really relevant when one side is considerably more technologically advanced. China is still in the stone age, and relies on stolen technology and upgraded Soviet-era shit.
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>>80803633
>tfw Burger Army were supposed to be uncucked but they now have trannies, fags and lower standards for women.

Seriously how did this happen so fucking fast? I want off this ride...
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>>80803561
Not him but I could just get on a dingy and bash a destroyer to the bottom of the sea with my huge knee knocking cock
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>>80801197
Russia has nothing but a large landmass, a large but ineffective military and a moderately large population. Their GDP is smaller than second rate European countries like Italy.
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>>80803539
>>80803692
Two American generals conducted this challenge with each other. Does this mean that the modern navy is garbage, or that the Red team general was just a better strategist than the one other general they had in charge of the other team? The latter is more likely.
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>Armed forces, Artillery, battle tanks

Don't really matter as they have no means to get them off their continent, also the US has like 13,000 combat aircraft, not 3000.
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>>80804089
Or your shitposts are so strong that they give the enemy cholera and they die.
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>>80803692
>>80803539

Isn't this the one where opfor cheated
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>>80801618
Tell that to the Iraqi army kek
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>>80801618
Tell that to the Iraqi army kekek
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>>80800705
Let's not forget what happened the last time some slanty eyes pissed us off.

I guess China could build bunkers out of unused iPhone cases?
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>>80800705
Those numbers give an impression that could not be farther from reality. American troops are far better trained and equipped than their Chinese counterparts. The Chinese military command is a mess of corruption and ineffective leadership. Much of the equipment used by the Chinese military is decades behind the latest tech. Even their latest tech is just stolen from the US because despite having 1.3 billion people and a fuckload of geniuses, they can't come up with anything themselves. The only thing the Chinese military has ever done well is killing Chinese citizens
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>>80804618
>>80804658
Oopsies
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>>80804374
Read the link. It's literally the opposite.
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E W A R
W
A
R

Murricans secret weapon everyone knows it exists but nobody knows what it actually does it how.

>China's face when a single Growler collapses the entire Chinese electric infrastructure and sends them back to the stone age
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>>80804016
>Seriously how did this happen so fucking fast?
Commander in Chief. What he says goes. Unfortunately he's a fucking social marxist who would rather fuck the military in the name of equality than keep us safe.
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>>80802077

Well, WW2...
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>>80804721
More importantly the image implies that China has some sort of naval advantage over the USA when the United States has by far the most dominating naval force on the planet
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>>80801618
You literally can if you don't care about war crimes
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>>80800705
1 murrican MBT could KO 3 Chinese MBTs alone
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>>80800705
Assuming this image is accurate the US would win. Mostly because if China goes to war with us they will also deal with opportunistic uprising all throughout west China as well. Also he who rules the skies wins the war.
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>>80801819
>implying Russia wouldn't do it instead
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>>80803545
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>>80802077
We weren't fighting the governments of those countries in any of those examples. When faced with a conventional war, we're pretty fucking good. It's when war crimes become an issue that we have to stop the kill machine a little bit.
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>>80803545
That turns me on
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>>80803545
jesus fuck, the US military is one gigantic waste of money
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>>80800705
What I really can't fathom is the people who believe current Japan could take on China.
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>>80804667
Turned them into rice krispies lmao
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>>80803633
>I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep...
I hate this quote. It's completely unrealistic. In real life, it's unheard of for soldiers to override their superiors even if they are "sheep".
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>>80805332
>Canada
>saying anything about the military at all
It's better to be prepared than to not be. Countries really don't fuck around hard with the US because of so much military power we have. And modern power at that, not late Soviet-tier weapons that haven't been touched in 20 years
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>>80802593

>win wars
>tell Germany

Dear 1944,

Germany loses.

Sincerely, Allied Forces.
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>>80805332

>Lol americans wasting all their money on military
>(pls don't stop we depend on your protection)
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>>80800812
Keep telling yourself that, Vietnam War vet.
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>>80800705
Has the Chinese army ever properly been tested in a war? Shiny toys are cool and all but if the person wielding it is a tard...it won't be efficient at all.
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>>80801675

UGM-133A Trident D5 can carry 12 W88 warheads with a yield of 475kT each.

A single Ohio-class boomer can deliver 136,800 kt.

However, thanks to SORT, they only carry 8 W88 warheads per Trident for a total of 192 MIRVs per boat, limiting them to 91,200kT per boat.

Only 14 boomers. Only 1,276,800kT total.

Lame.
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>>80805754
No they have never seen combat.
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>>80805332
That waste of money's the only thing keeping the world in its current state. You can bet your ass that countries with larger armies would be more opportunistic if the US wasn't around.
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>>80802077
Democrat hand tying is the cause of any form of defeat in those countries.
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>>80805591
>>80805717
being strong is important but just leaving billions in surplus to degrade in the elements is a waste of money.
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>>80805826
Kek, that should tell you enough about their strength. At least you fuckers are constantly at wars, that'll only make you stronger.
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>>80800705
America has built 10,000 Abrams alone, also that chart doesn't include Murica's tremendous amount of AFVs. Also USAF has 25,000 planes, gtfo.

Not only do we have superior air force, we have superior everything else.
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>>80805332
The US military is the singular reason why an economy based entirely on debt and interest can continue to exist.
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Read this

http://thesaker.is/debunking-popular-cliches-about-modern-warfare/

>It all depends by what you mean by “advantage”. The US armed forces are much larger than the Russian ones, that is true. But, unlike the Russians ones, they are spread all over the planet. In warfare what matters is not the size of your military, but how much of it is actually available for combat in the theater of military operations TMO (conflict area). For example, if in any one given TMO you have only 2 airfields each capable of sustaining air operations for, say 100 aircraft, it will do you no good to have 1000 aircraft available.
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>>80806046
If you mean fighting in conflicts they haven't been able to win, then you got it, man.

>>80805826
This one's a tossup. You never know how zeal works with a country that has 619M people available for conscription: http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=china
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>>80805332

We're saving money by having those birds in mothballs. In the event of war, it take less than 36 hours to unwrap any given bird, inspect it and have it in the air ready for combat (provided an ANG pilot is around to fly it).

It's basically ready to go, no need to build a new one or keep one operational 24/7.
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>>80806174
On top of that, I doubt the Americans would be as brutal as the Chinese when it comes to hatred-fueled combat.
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>>80802401
Read about ghost company in the gulf war. The fucking steam rolled the iraqi tanks and republican guard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_73_Easting
pretty sure this is it. Most of the American tanks listed as destroyed where not completely toasted, just written of as not worth repairing. Pretty common for an US tank, they just get so tore up in a fight they retire it or scrap it, but it still work and the crew is alive.
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>>80805457
Right. No officer in history has rebelled against his superiors and attempted to overthrow the government. I mean, if that kind of thing had happened there would be a name for the act, right?
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>>80800705
How are armies having less soldiers now than ww2 if population has increased?
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>>80800705
Have fun using those pre-cold war era crap, Chinks.
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>>80800705
China's numbers are inflated by its zerg tier population and shitty cheap cold war equipment.
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>>80806423
Nations are not mobilized for war. If this doomsday scenario ever happened the U.S. military would shoot up to 10s of millions.
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Japs were the natural predator of chinese and now they are cucked beyond the imagination.

US should have allied with Japs and finish of Chinks and Slavs in Asia.. Now they have bigger problems.
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>>80806114
In WW2 the USA engineer corps could construct an airfield in under 24 hours.

Also that article makes several clear historical mistakes such that it can't be taken seriously.
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>>80801015
>Supercarrier HMS Elizabeth

Bretty impressive m8

>>80800705

If China wants us they'll have to go through the Japs first. We all know how that usually works out.
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>>80804943
Exactly, they show how much better US ships are, or how we have 10 supercarriers.
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>>80800705
>all this autistic number tallying
Reminder that:
>illiterate Afghan ragheards BTFO'd the Soviet Union
>illiterate Viet peasant farmers BTFO'd the US
>illiterate Emus BTFO'd Australia

Number ticking don't mean shit.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGs_dcXt-3k

This video is all you need to know about that shitty Chinese military.
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>>80806495
It's such a useless comparison. Only an insecure chinese expat would start a thread like this.

By the way I'm not anti-china, I'm anti-CHINA STRONK NEX WURL SUPERPOWER. The only thing they will lead the world in is extremely under developed social skills and ghost cities.
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>>80806423

"Peacetime." The militaries of post-WWI Europe -save for Germany- were woefully unprepared for WWII. No one expected another war and no one prepared for war until the Nazis were already in full gear.

By 1938, the writing was on the walls and other nations started to gear up but for most it was too late.

Modern technology has reduced the need for the manpower seen in WWII, also. A single conventionally equipped B-52 can carry a larger payload than 15 B-17s.

If we need to firebomb Dresden again, a single F-16 with a B83 can level Dresden.
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you only need enough soldiers to run your nukes. anything else is literally pointless except for playing at world police
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>>80801135
The terminology of Great power or Super power is usually mostly about power projection. China and Russia have essentially zero military influence as soon as you get more than a few hundred miles from its border, which means that they are only regional powers at best.
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>>80806937
The West hasnt fully mobilized for war since WW2. If two nations like this went to war it would required millions of men with the goal of utter destruction.

It would be total war of annihilation.
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>>80806387
I'm talking about in general, specifically modern day warfare, faggot. It's something that almost never happens because military superiors are propped up by the government who are propped up (in the US at least) by Jews. Doesn't matter how much of a lion you are. If you're an average foot soldier who is in a war, your opinion means literally nothing because everything is controlled by the highest superiors and the government. You're basically a meat shield
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>>80807021
>The only thing they will lead the world in is extremely under developed social skills and ghost cities

kek
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China's army is actually useless because of its geographical location

They would have to push through the middle east to attack Europe or swim over the pacific to reach america
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>>80800705
Who gives a fuck about destroyers? What a shit fucking pic, what about the carriers, by far the most important ship. Does China even have 5?
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>>80804374

Yes, the red force decided they could magically load 1,000,000 cruise missiles into motorboats and fishing vessels with no prep time, target them perfectly, and be utterly undetectable because reasons.

It was allowed, and then they reset everything and told him not to be a fucking retard, and tried to use the rest of the time to do a proper exercise, but he quit like a baby throwing a tantrum.

Key point, his stupidity was ALLOWED. It was utterly unrealistic, but they let it happen. Afterwards, they reset and tried to do another run with more realistic scenarios. He quit because he was expected to not cheat the second time around. Things like actually turning radar on instead of saying that his force would do blind suicide runs with no location or targeting data for the enemy force, and not declaring that his motorboat navy was suddenly right inside the carrier group, etc.
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>>80807893
The army of the communist party of china is very useful for its intended purpose of suppressing dissent within china and ensuring that the rich are supplied with fresh organs from political prisoners.
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>>80807705
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_the_Admirals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
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>>80800705
force projection ain't all its cracked up to be
but it can blow the shit out of distant targets yar
please remain still as I adjust for windage and elevation...
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>>80801135
Russia is extremely overated militarily they would probably lose 1 on 1 to France UK and Italy
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>>80802077
We actually did win the "war" part of the occupation with bombs. It was the occupation and dealing with the insurgency that we had problems with. Educate yourself please. Also Vietnam was a clusterfuck because LBJ was a retard, the Generals wanted to drop a few neutron bombs and march straight up the Ho Chi Minh trail into Hanoi. The war would have lasted 6 weeks. Instead LBJ would bomb some, then stop bombing for a few weeks while the enemy recuperated, then bomb some more, and also get tons of US soldiers killed with full retard "search and destroy" missions.
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>>80806174
>>fighting in conflicts we haven't been able to win

we don't have win conditions for those. you know why?

because they're just practice.
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>>80801926
>Highly intelligent
>not knowing the Chinese use the stats from their best and still cheat
lel
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>>80808582

A few years ago, the commanding General of the Vietcong was interviewed by 60 Minutes and said they were days from surrender after the Tet Offensive but Cronkite's "The War is now unwinnable" statement demoralized the US enough to convince Charlie to keep fighting.
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>>80806114
Wow that really made me think
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>>80800812
well, considering china has 900 000 000 more soldiers, I feel like it matters a tidy bit
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>>80800705

America would probably run out of munitions trying to kill all 1.3 billion ching chongs
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>>80800705
>artillery
>7k
nice source

kind of makes me question the rest.
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>>80809035

Are they going to swim in full kit out to the USS Ronald Reagan, 400 Nautical Miles from China's EEZ and start shooting 7.62s at her 2+ feet of missile resistant armor?
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>>80803086
>"...will be willing to share."
sharing is for communists, into the chamber you go I guess
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>>80802077

Every military conflict in the Vietnam war was a US victory. Even the Tet offensive. The US pulled out because of hippies, not because it wasn't working; it absolutely was.

Now, casualties could have been further reduced if the airforce actually HAD used bombs, but at that time all their heads were up their asses and all they wanted to do was dog fight.
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>>80802764
this is where leadership, training, and motivation count.

India can't into clay pride.
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>>80808582
Leftists and international '''law''' really hold us back honestly. We really need leaders with balls that aren't afraid to make tough decisions.
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>>80809035
They wouldn't be able to put boots on the ground, and even if they did Chinese troops are very poorly trained and equipped compared to their American counterparts
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>>80808046
Having your job be to do these scenarios all day would be the most fun shit. It'd be like being paid to play strategy games (plus do shit tons of research obviously, but still)
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>>80808046
lol this. nu-armchairs love the Millennium falcon because it confirms their nagging suspicion they know how to study their job better than former Navy SEALs and nuclear engineers from MIT.
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>>80801015
>TFW your ONLY carrier has a cuck-ramp
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>>80809035
Only if they're on the defensive.

If they can't get their troops to your land they already lost. Unless you're going to just glass their country or strike at their allies closest to you.
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>>80809569

Fuck, I just want to play "WWIII" on a TACAMO/NAOC Nightwatch or Mercury one time.
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>>80809820
>mud, african, and women watching with shame
Sharia would be an improvement on "British" "manhood"
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>>80809820
Why are Americans so triggered by ramps? They seem to love them when they need to get their mobility scooters into WallMart
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>>80805332
We're the reason there hasn't been a world war 3 you dumbass.
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>>80810203

So you admit you based your sad, sad little carrier on an American invention?
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>>80809035
These are soldiers the same way that guys who serve for one summer in Germany or Sweden are soldiers. Actually worse. When I entered the Chinese border from Kazakhstan I saw 30 soldiers sweeping the road of snow with the most dilapidated brooms you ever saw. Some didn't have brooms so they had to share. Now compare them to our well-led and professional military of volunteers.

Average US army grunts, self-motivated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYSCuAfOc5g
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>>80801618
WW2 ended pretty quick once the Yanks dropped a bucket o' sunshine on the Japs.
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>>80802077
>one post by this ID

welp, someone got utterly BTFO
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>>80809820
This image is like a renaissance painting
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>>80810943

Fuck, I paint for a living. Going to do this in a Monet Pointillism.
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>>80810299
You're entire country is a British invention, as is the vast majority of technology in your home
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>>80805906
There are hardly any elements in Arizona where these are stored.
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>>80800705
America would win hands down she has the greatest navy since the fall of Atlantis its territorial waters are the 7 seas
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>>80811669

126 B-52Hs sit in saran wrap there... Ready to nuke China or Russia or Latvia as needed. Just have to dust them off, add the PAL and they can nuke anyone in a few days.
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>>80803076
Still more of a superpower than China.
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>>80800705
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
Literally has a field for everything you need to know
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A war would be amazing.
I just feel in ecstasy by knowing all those chicanos that would die.
Just hope no nuclear warheads are used.
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>>80808273
Wew lad. They can steamroll to Spain if the US won't interfere.
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>>80802408
Shut your whore mouth
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>>80812775

LATVIA BTFO
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>>80800705
Those numbers are wayyyy off, plus horribly cherry picked
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>>80800705
>2785 tanks

Nigga the US has more then 8000 of them.

all 3680 of those aircraft are also far more capable.
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>>80813345
>This is what BRICS thinks

You realize that 2 of those countries I know off the bat are over 100% economically dependant on the US.
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>>80800705
>China
>A Navy
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>>80813345
>brazil on top of the other four
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>>80804016
Obama is why. But don't worry, dudeweedman will also serve something similar
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>>80801197
China is absolutely a super power

Russia as well. Has been since 1945
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>>80804090
>Large ineffective military

Do explain
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>>80801135
Because they have boats. Russia and China can only fight near their borders. Britain, like the US can bring the fight anywhere.
The US can just bring a better fight.
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>>80800705
The USA is the most moral superpower to have ever existed (post 1945 for the US), and I don't think it is very close. People who say otherwise can go fuck themselves.
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>>80805332
We can't all be protected by our super power ally and not have a military as a result. Some countries have to protect themselves.
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>>80803208
Without citing some bullshit article about the F35 "losing" to an F16, explain what's wrong with it
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>>80804016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DS2wXSKF5k

Obama.
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>>80812186
Wars aren't won by navies. (Unless you want to lord over the tunafish, of course.)
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>>80805457
>not understanding the quote.
He is saying not to be afraid of a strong army with poor leadership.
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>>80802661
2000 of those are ZTZ-96 or -96A.. which are on par with the upgraded T-90 versions.

They've seen action in Africa, kicks ass and Shreks T-72 series tanks just as quick as Abrams do.

So they're on roughly equal footing with M1A1 series.. while their ZTZ-99 would be the equivalent to the M1A2sep++
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>>80803208
Every military in the world wants the F35 including your own. The F35's detractors are largely cucks like David Axe who print Facebook level memes about the plane. The only country to fall for such cuckoldry is Canada, and only because Trudeau is telling his entire Defense Department to go fuck itself, he obviously knows better.
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>>80806937
>Emus
>Illiterate
I see you've not dealt with those beastly fuckers before. They are smart and highly organized.
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>>80803545
You know.. that's one thing I neglected to ask the nuke guy on /k/..

If bone yards were on the targeting lists.
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Lets face it

US VS China would probably mean some big cities in the US would get BTFO'd.

When Manhattan, San Fran and LA get struck the damage is pretty pretty guud (look only what 9/11 did).

Whereas cities of China get hit, nobody bats an eye.
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>>80813345
better watch out lads. The BRICS are comin
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>>80801892
You do realise it's the USA that wants war with China right? Why would China want war with a country that owes it trillions of dollars? That's like shooting someone who owes you money... Actually did you know that over 200 armed conflicts since ww2 were all started by American?
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>>80814539
No

Why would they be
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>>80813866
The fact that you could have literally handed every single American citizen and illegal immigrant over $4,000 and it would have cost less. It would have been the largest real-world stimulus package in history, instead they made the equivalent of an iPhone upgrade to the air force planes.
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>>80800705
B-But isn't the US degenerate and China based? Why shouldn't the US fall?

/pol/ BTFO
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>>80814631
and yet the post WWII period has been the most peaceful in world history
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>>80814559
200+ million people would die if a nuke hit a US city.
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>>80813345
Lol, the GDP of the USA is as big as those of BRICS combined. Same goes for the EU
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>american delusion - the thread

China is shit, but the memes about Russian military are 20 years old.

Putin modernized it heavily bringing it in par with current too standards. Plus they have superiority in several areas chiefly hypersonic anti-ship missiles, AA defence, nukes and ewar. USA has advantages in oyer areas pertaining to teir typ of strategy namely carriers and stealth.

A war between them is essentially impossible nowadays. Nothing to be gained and th threat of global nuclear annihilation around the corner.
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>>80814771
>>80814631
No! Don't destroy the US is evil meme!
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>>80801015
>Father and Son bear the mantle of global responsibility together

Feels pretty good senpai
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>>80811622
>You're entire country is a British invention,
Stupidest post I've read all day.
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>>80811669
This. If you cover the windows and do fuel system prep you can let anything sit in the desert for years and all it will need is fresh fuel and tires.
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>>80814714
>those numbers
are you actually retarded?
Ignoring your retarded math, the money allocated also includes many years of mainatinance, service, and upgrades.

this isnt to say that it isn't overpriced, but just not as much as people love to say
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>>80814771
Hahahahag you reckon do you? over 200 armed conflicts in fifty years estimated 20 - 30 million killed around 80% were women and children all instigated by one nation to control the worlds wealth sounds like a vicious dictatorship to me. Guess you think it's peaceful cause your Jew media tells you America is just delivering democracy.
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>>80800705
>that navy
good lord
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>>80814894
Don't worry it's not a meme your country is guilty of so so many crimes. The difference is America controls the world opinion so pretends Isis needs to be stopped but Isis is controlled by the Cia funny about that huh?
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>>80815121
Is this where America is responsible for atrocities committed by communists? Where are you getting your information from?
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>>80814714
Okay, so giving the entire country $4000 accomplishes what exactly?

Second, what basis is this 'iphone upgrade' on? Do you know about its enhanced stealth technology? Electronic capabilities? Interlinking? If it's just an iPhone upgrade, why did Japan decide to get the F35 rather than F16s?
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>>80800705
>aircraft carriers conveniently not on list
>what is force projection
>2.3 mil green troops vs a country that is almost always at war
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>>80814125
They are when the only way to get to your enemy is over an ocean.
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>>80814891
You're right, Russia has been quite modernized. Their IAD elements are very sophisticated

But it's purely defensive.
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>>80815367
No actually causing death and wars either directly or via proxy
Here is a list

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051
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>>80815104
>those numbers
Are you retarded? 1.5 trillion divided by 350 million is over 4k
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>>80815121
20-30 million (less than 0.5% of the world population) killed over 50 years? That's absolutely the most peaceful time in history. Before WW2 there was never not major wars in multiple countries.
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because time is almost up.

it's staring at us in the face. just because americans are blind to it doesn't mean the rest of the world should indulge in their delusions.

should we cuck our future just so we don't hurt their feelings? it's the epitome of fat pandering.

if you are smart, you should be making preparations now for a fat free world because by the time the writing is on the wall, it will be too late.
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>>80815316
Damn bro, You must have top clearance to cia files to have that kind of knowledge. We better call the world police to report these crimes. Let me dial them up...huh they seem to have an American accent...
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>>80815609
>http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051
That list counts all deaths in any wars where the US gave any type of support to any side. For instance, it counts the Iran-Iraq war. The whole thing. All deaths on both sides of the Iran-Iraq war are attributed to America.

You are a fucking retard.
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>>80815810
All of those existed before the internet and globalism. We've secured ourself at the top when things finally solidified, we'll outlast them by a long while.

Don't get me wrong, I'm saying this from a pessimist's standpoint. A crash would give me an interesting life or death.
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>>80815609
>95% useless 3rd world shitholes
Wow it's fucking nothing.
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>>80803819
Marines are Navy retard.
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>>80815449
>Conveniently not mentioning that the Chinese have a literally endless supply of manpower that keeps growing exponentially while US birthrates are low as shit and are supplanted by mass shitskin importation

I honestly don't see how China won't be the world's next superpower. They are a massive, resource-rich nation with a gargantuan, high-IQ population and strong traditional values. They're arguably the healthiest society in the world at the moment, and they continue to appropriate the positive aspects of Western culture while wisely neglecting the destructive traits such as cultural relativism, muh race is just a social construct, and harlotry leading to low birth rates. China is reawakening, and at a perfect time for them.
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>>80801135
They have more aircraft carriers than Russia or China.

>>80803297
>>80808273
These guys are shills. Russian and Chinese military equipment performs better. It is also cheaper. However, they don't actually spend any money on their military anyway, so patriotic Russians and Chinese build the best designs possible within their constraints, and because they have some sort of limits (unlike unlimited budget military suppliers in the USA who are supposed to be private but have like $35 billion in federal funding), they get like ten million bucks and some expert who's been working on the same thing since WWII is tasked with the job since they won't trust noobs who just started in 2006 for the sole reason that they have a college degree and get unlimited money and no set goals other than "improve our shit".

Russia gives them ten million bucks and says "I want you to test how it works after you freeze it in a pool of diarrhea. If it doesn't work, make it work. By the way, it'll need to be dropped in a fucking volcano too. Have fun with that shit, moron. Hahaha."

They make extremely cheap, durable arms (although what I described was their guns industry, not their shipbuilding, yes the AK-12 had to be frozen in a pool of crap and was engineered by the same Mikhail Kalashnikov from 1947; the guy was making guns and pleading with the Patriarch of Moscow for his salvation for all the people AKs killed forever and he said people kill people and guns don't.) because they have all this shit to do and an extremely low budget. Russian excellency.
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>>80815810
>some idiot used French currency as a reserve through the revolution
kek
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>>80815716
do you own a calculator? Or know how to operate google.com?

i dont believe this isnt bait
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>>80800705

32% of the Chinese military, specifically front line soldiers like infantry, paratroopers, armored bregadies is overweight
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>>80802096
Just think of their manufacturing capability. I would hate to get into a long term conventional war with them.
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>>80800705
Are there chinese on /pol/?

I can't remember ever seeing a chinese flag here.
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>>80816195
Probably blocked
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>>80816195

4chan is not banned in china.

Personally, I have seen 2.
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>>80815802
>country kills 20-30 million over 80% innocent women and children...

I don't mind your government is controlled by psychotic Zionists I'm just saying America is the instigator of the coming war not the defender I'd plan more for U.S. invasion of China
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>>80807985
Without escort ships, a carrier would be stupid vulnerable.
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>>80800705
this
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>>80816253
>>80816275
I want so badly to see two countries at war trading punches over /pol/
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>>80815889
Yeah because that war would not have happened if America wasn't involved in starting it
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>>80815937
they had all that shit back in the day too but they ended up as europe's opium whore, they have a remarkable ability to tear themselves apart. It's only a matter of time until the next devastating chinese civil war which will end with half the country getting nuked.
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