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>JOHN MCDONNELL: ANTI-CORBYN PLOTTERS ARE "FUCKING USELESS"
https://twitter.com/BenQuinn75/status/752994128976285696
>BLAIRITE JOHN MCTERNAN THROWS MASSIVE TANTRUM IN BBC INTERVIEW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskZf-5_DuE
>LABOUR MEMBERS WHO JOINED AFTER JANUARY HAVE TO PAY £25 TO VOTE
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-labour-party-members-barred-8408288
>THE REVOLUTION CONTINUES, COMRADES: CORBYN TO BE INCLUDED ON LEADERSHIP BALLOT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36778135
>A MUSICAL ANALYSIS OF THE TUNE DAVID CAMERON SANG OUTSIDE DOWNING STREET
http://www.classicfm.com/discover/music-theory/david-cameron-musical-analysis/#JOD7burZLE4KoShX.97
>DAVID CAMERON: NEW PRIME MINISTER BY WEDNESDAY EVENING
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-11/david-cameron-says-u-k-to-have-new-prime-minister-by-wednesday
>LABOUR CALLS FOR SNAP ELECTION
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-does-not-want-summer-leadership-battle-a3293046.html
>THERESA MAY TO BECOME PRIME MINISTER AFTER ANDREA LEADSOM BACKS OUT
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/11/theresa-may-launches-conservative-leadership-bid-as-andrea-leads/
>NIGE DISCUSSES KEK AND MEME MAGIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAkwv5PNapY [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>NIGEL FARAGE: MAY'S SO COLD SHE MIGHT BE ALABASTER
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3682601/NIGEL-FARAGE-Theresa-s-cold-alabaster.html
>TALKS BETWEEN LABOUR AND TORY BLAIRITES ABOUT FORMING THEIR OWN PARTY
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/10/talks-about-forming-new-pro-eu-centrist-party-reported-at-westmi
>THE CHILCOTT REPORT - THE MAIN POINTS
http://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/chilcott-report---the-main-points
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a-a-anime
>Rate my OC, lads.
>>80785123
gulag/10
>>80785123
its ok
What the hell is with brit /pol/ and loving this commie faggot?
You queers need to be gassed.
>>80785123
Decent for a one off in a thread, not good enough to post in multiple different threads.
So if we could get EEC with limits on free movement, would Brit/pol/ consider it a success? Can it even be done?
>>80785238
Because he's killing Labour?
>>80785238
We only love him because he's fucking up the cancerous globalist centrists in his party
>>80785238
He's killing the left in british politics alive you pleb
>>80785238
We love him because he's destroying the Labour party and will secure a Conservative government for the next 20 years.
>>80785123
Nice, added to my Corbechov collection
>>80784678
>>80784706
>>80784836
>>80784884
Thanks for the replies
LADS
Strange request, but can anyone identify the military man in the portrait? He's world war two I know that much
>>80785238
he's a top lad who at worst will crash and burn the labour party and at best reform it into a potentially decent left wing party that actually stands for something
Lad who is reading undercover economist what are your thoughts?
Tim is good
>>80785622
Andrew Cunningham?
>>80785749
Self interested trade union members?
G8 M8
>>80785238
He's obliterating the Blairites in the Labour party.
People say he's killing the Labour party, but they're wrong. Blairites had already cleaned it. He's just making sure they suffer.
>>80785749
>potentially decent left wing party that actually stands for something
Prick.
>>80785238
Justin Trudeau is basically tony Blair
Comrade corbyn is purging our version of Trudeau and his political allies
>>80785986
>Blairites had already cleaned it
I have no idea how that got typed.
Cleaned should be "killed"
Perhaps the Corbynite censors have already started using euphemisms.
>>80785906
Double checked that and can confirm.
As a reward- here is the official textbook portrait of him
>>80786230
How many of those naval anime posters
do you have?
>>80784772
Watching jong mcternans rant
>He will turn labour into a minority force I'm British politics!!
Maybe blairites shouldn't have tried to turn native brits into minorities in their own country and capital city
>>80786330
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/715673/23e15ab3a4/
I saved all the British one's, so seven.
>>80785123
I saved it. Hope you don't mind.
>>80785622
Cut it out then tineye it
>>80786462
Already got it anon.
>>80786404
Goddammit Japan
Once we leave the EU (assuming we do), what'll be the next realistic step in terms of uncucking the UK?
>>80785296
Nah.
I don't want to be part of anything. Trading blocs are outdated, dangerous and faggotry.
>>80785309
>>80785316
>>80785336
>>80785379
>>80785749
Thanks for the reply.
>>80786667
Electoral reform, getting rid of Scotland
>>80786667
Vote in Aaron Banks' new party. Con the left into voting for the Tories.
Reinstate gun ownership
Race war.
Done.
do you guys think that pm may will call an early general election? personally i doubt it, seems to literally just be delusional lib dems who want it anyway
>>80786513
Good man!
>>80784772
>NIGE DISCUSSES KEK AND MEME MAGIC
>Slough
>pronouncing Kek as 'Keek'
Slough accent is degenerate accent
>>80786904
No chance. She's going to drag this out for as long as possible.
May will cuck the UK even more, sign into EEA and she will sign TTIP then the Tories will still win the next election and everything will carry on as usual.
>>80786904
Tories don't have a reason to and Labour would be crushed at the moment. Really don't see it happening.
What is going to happen to Gideon?
>>80786904
>do you guys think that pm may will call an early general election?
She has no reason to.
>>80787018
I've never said 'Kek' out loud as I'm not an utter fucking autist but I obviously assumed it was pronounced like 'deck'... That radiofag was wrong wasn't he? It's not keek... It can't be?!
I bet he pronounces meme as 'mem' or 'maim' too.
Fuck that guy.
>>80785622
Mountbatten? The caption mentions Cunningham (Alan) and Nelson though. But it doesn't really look like Cunningham.
>>80785296
Not if it's an 'emergency brake' on existing EU terms or anything like the red card David Cameron '''''negotiated'''''
>>80787125
He'll fade into the æther.
>>80787125
Backbenches for a while probably. He's a bit toxic at the moment, especially when May is claiming the centre ground
>>80787018
I think you'll find Oliver was from Stroud in Gloucestershire.
And he admit he pronounced it wrong and spilled spaghetti.
>>80787348
RIP
FUCK THE IRA
>>80787348
Already cracked it m80.
Also this is the textbook's mountbatten
>>80787266
If you take kek to be a shortened version of kekeke rather than a corruption of lel, keek makes sense, kind of
>>80787419
>>80787462
Maybe he will cut himself if he has no budget to cut...
>>80787125
He's going to be given a cabinet position, possibly taking over Sajiv David as Minister for Business, Innovation and Skills. I personally hope he dies of depression but he's clearly on the pay of the (((overlords))) so he'll stick around.
>>80785906
>>80786230
>>80787348
Apparently there was more than one Cunningham in WW2.
>>80787544
But kekekeke surely is a bastardisation of jejejeje which is pronounced more like kek than keek. Also I cannot fucking believe I'm debating this on a Tuesday night.
>>80787083
so may until at least 2025 then? thats plenty of time to put some surveillance votes through parliament
>>80787186
it would give her additional legitimacy and its extremely likely that the tories would win anyway, but yeah i agree that it would be a reckless waste of time
>>80787524
>>80786404
>>80786230
>>80787720
>how to stop a newfriend
Kek comes from 'Top Kek' which came from some really obscure Turkish muffins.
It's pronounced as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hcSpSC8T0M
What the fuck happened?
When I woke up at 1 PM new york time all I saw in the headlines was how Corbyn was being forced off the ballot by some weird secret vote? What the fuck happened britbongs???
>>A MUSICAL ANALYSIS OF THE TUNE DAVID CAMERON SANG OUTSIDE DOWNING STREET
Has no-one else noticed that this is 2/4 time, not 3/4?
>>80787917
>>80787917
They tried to force him off but apparently he stays on the voting ballot.
Lots of centrist lefties are very butt-hurt.
>>80785622
http://secondbysecondworldwar.com/?attachment_id=2866
Admiral Andrew Cunningham
>>80787814
Unfortunately I can't see anything other than that being the case. I hate the idea of it because I despise the woman but LAB are a joke and will continue to be until the next election ~(which the Tories will call at the right time, pretending it was all to do with ART50 but really it's all to do with knowing they'll win) and then we're stuck with the bitch.
She's going to go full blown EEA, full blown free movement, full blown sharia, full blown multiculti, full blown Blairite Tory. And she'll be in the pockets of the banks and pretend she's about the working class. CAP THIS and come back to me in 7-8 years.
>>80787917
They failed, the vote was 18:14 in Corbyn's favour; he's on the ballot.
>>80787870
So I was right then. I feel JUSTIFIED.
>>80788140
Cheers. Already cracked it though, his profile is here
>>80786230
>>80788206
It's not a bastardization of jajaja though.
>>80787462
Too powerful for the backbenches, he commands the respect of a good few dozen moderniser MPs
With the slim majority you can't have backbench plotters and back stabbing
He'll be out of the way in the foreign office
>“It was taking an American-style media approach,” said Banks. “What they said early on was ‘facts don’t work’ and that’s it. The remain campaign featured fact, fact, fact, fact, fact. It just doesn’t work. You have got to connect with people emotionally. It’s the Trump success.”
Does no one else find this a somewhat terrifying statement? That facts and reality might be distorted beyond recognition and no one would know longer know truth is precisely what George Orwell spent his life in paroxysms of fear from. We are living a in a post-fact society. I don't want to get rid of one set of liars to get a new bunch with different lies.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/29/leave-donor-plans-new-party-to-replace-ukip-without-farage
>the grauniad
I know, but the quote is there.
>>80786667
expulsion of the mensheviks
>>80788150
Who cares
I already kill brain cells via self induced hypnocapnia on a daily basis and am now suffering from Moter control degenration
>>80788533
>he thinks facts ever worked
>>80788650
Fooking hell m8te get it together
>>80788533
Arron banks is such a fucking idiot saying that to a journalist
Hope he doesn't succeed in trying to buy himself electoral success
>>80788533
Look at the modern leftist. Facts are only good as long as they fit with their vision of reality. When the right does use their tactics the media start worrying though.
>>80788150
>which the Tories will call at the right time
You've forgotten about the fixed term Parliament act
It would need cross party support to have an early election (66%+ of all MPs)
If parliament tries to overturn it with a simple majority it will get blocked in the Lords
So you all like Corbyn because he's destroying Labour, an honest, proincipled politician, or both?
>>80788883
Yes you are absolutely right but >>80788772
has a point . . . .you don't say this to a journalist.
>>80789016
>So you all like Corbyn because he's destroying Labour
Yes.
>>80789016
I like him cause he is a principal left politician. Wrecking Blairites is just a bonus for me.
>>80788883
spoken a righteous twat
>>80789016
>>80788945
That law is a joke. If the Tories want a snap election, they can just call a vote of confidence and lose it intentionally.
>>80788757
No.
I like the way it feels, my heart flutters and I can see the vein branches in my eyeballs because the blood stops flowing in them and I twitch and it feels so good
For a good minute I lie on my bed twitching with absolute bliss running through my head
I forget all the horrible things in the world, the degeneracy and the cuckoldry.
I forget even my own name and identity, and just become a drooling moaning shell being inundated with endorphins as my brain suffocates
I walk into rooms and forget how I got there. Or go outside and feel like I woke up in town
I'm never stopping. I hope it kills me
>>80789016
I like him because he's an actual leftist labour leader not some red tory shill, would never vote for him but fuck the blairites
The right-wingers on brit/pol/ like him because he's destroying Labour, the left-wingers like him because he's putting the Blairites to the cross.
>>80788883
I thought so too, to be honest. But do you really think /pol/ and the alt-right are any better? The threads and posts I see on here are just as quick to emotion, bereft of reason and filter the world through their narrative. And frankly, both sides attribute that kind of behaviour to the other, and if you look at the history of it, it arguably begins with the likes of Rupert Murdoch, an anti-establishment figure whose print and media are broadly right wing in character. And this proves my point: no one on /pol/ would recognise the right wing has had a hand in lowering the standard of discourse. Everything has become a dizzying and simplified us vs. them battle.
Fuck me lads the rate political happenings have been going on lately waiting until September the 24th seems like years away
>>80789260
>If the Tories want a snap election
But they wont, they have no reason to, they need to get busy with the Brexit shit.
Why do people keep bringing up another GE? . . .ffs stop going round in circles.
>>80789286
Theresa does the merkel hand thing.
We are screwed
>>80789328
>the left-wingers like him because he's putting the Blairites to the cross.
Not quickly enough it would seem.
The deselections need to be significantly ramped up.
>>80789393
If Eagle has any sense she'll drop out as soon as possible.
>>80787266
That guys face has been shopped on...right?
>>80789269
Weird to think that it's little over 2 months away.
God leftists are going to look back on this year and wonder what the fuck happened
>>80789352
That's been the same since the dawn of democracy anon. Human nature will always be like that.
>>80789597
Nope, 'tis the face God gave him.
>>80789462
This is also what producers tell the crew of the American show NFL Today to do with their hands while they're talking and standing up. It's pensive and assertive at the same time. This lady is dangerous.
>>80788533
>>80788772
He is, however, right. This is the new Dilbertman school of political sway if you weren't watching - Persuasion. Scott Adams knows this, hence why he has been able to chart Trump's success and continue to do so, as his analysis is on a level of persuasion of the populace and not the traditional rules.
As for the fact, it's true that they don't matter, nor to either side! You should know this by the many thousands of people who scream and call you racist just for supporting UKIP or the Tories.
They're good for governance, but facts alone are not persuasive, and it is a failure to make the facts persuasive by Remain that brought Leave to a win.
Pearl clutching elitism like
>>80789352
Is the exact same reason that we are and have lost the culture battle - too afraid to not be proper, we have to play by the rules of the enemy, because of the "standard of discourse".
Meanwhile, our next generation is browner than mud, our values and culture lost, and our cities losing all meaning, character and history as our native people are taken over.
>>80789393
So this bollocks will continue until September 24th.
Absolute fucking madness. Chaos will ensure and the 100+ MP's will cross the floor.
>>80789328
>"Blairites like you belong on a cross"
>"Ave, true to Corbyn"
>>80789686
>Nope, 'tis the face God gave him.
her.
>>80789639
It's not human nature it's stupid nature. People are raised to feel that they're right nearly all the time. It may be stupid and delusional but it's actually a very mentally healthy way to live.
>>80788772
They weren't his own words. He was relaying what an American political campaign manager he hired on a huge fee told him.
>>80789639
Things have quite clearly gotten much, much worse with the advent of television and then the Internet.
>>80785995
glad you could come up with a robust, well supported argument there m8
>>80790160
And the expansion of the voting franchise from the nobility to the gentry, then to landowning 21+ year olds, then to non land owners, then to 18 year olds, then to women, then to women at age 18.
>>80789959
Humans are stupid, new at 11.
>>80790160
In different ways, imagine living in bumfuck nowhere and having to rely on yellow journalism to make your choice of parliament/president, when you had a choice at all and the vote wasn't rigged. The only thing that changed is that now you can pick your poison.
>>80790334
Mummy sounds like she has some testicular fortitude. The Blair's are both cunts, just different.
>>80790494
She sounds more based than she actually is
>>80790494
I feel like a leftist made this assuming these were all bad things
>>80790334
Based Mother Theresa
>>80790798
Pretty sure that is the origin.
>>80790510
What would the ideal franchise be, in your view?
>>80789763
>>80789763
The hideous irony of your post is I've seen leftwingers say similar things, that the rightwing media and that use more deceptive means, and if they are to succeed they need to abandon prissy values like honesty. Slowly, then, truth is extinguished from the world.
>“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
If the kind of truth, honesty and integrity espoused by George Orwell aren't British values, and we need to abandon them to win and succeed, you don't end up preserving Britain. You end up turning Britain into America.
>over emotional response that i'm a pakistani or some shit
My god, this is hell.
>>80790699
>>80790798
You're ignoring the complementary actions wherein she did absolutely nothing at all, and in fact helped the situation become worse.
Thanks for nothing, Leadsom
>>80790883
universal suffrage conditional on all members of the electorate entering the matrix test environment and having the last 5000 years worth of political, philosophical and economic knowledge downloaded into their brains
>>80789286
exactly. All this bullshit we've had for years 'fighting over the centre ground'. what we need is a properly right wing tory party, a properly left wing Labour party and then people actually have a damn choice between two sets of ideas. It also allows room for a genuine centrist party to rise and take that place if enough people actually want it.
>>80790062
>>80789985
>>80790210
>>80790448
who is this?
>>80791355
hownew.ru
>>80790954
>Hideous irony
Some of us deign to live in a real world instead of a fantasy.
Here's a riddle.
Given you are playing a game that you and your opponent have staked life and world changing bets on, and cheating and breaking of the rules is often and accepted as how the game works.
Is it correct to believe that losing everything is fine, just so long as you kept to "truth, honesty and integrity", letting your opponent walk all over you, because you were afraid of your standing?
Regardless, Orwell was all for emotive polemics with smudging and smearing of the facts, from the Road to Wigan Pier to his fiction, so you have no argument to hand here.
>Turning Britain into America
It's not as if we're going to be Britain for much longer at this rate. Only quintessentially british.
>My god this is hell
How gauche.
>>80787266
I pronounce meme as "mee-mee" Is that autistic?
>>80790798
It's from the grauniad, so yes.
Also, like typical leftist shit, it ignores her co-sponsoringof the gay marriage bill
>>80790883
A non existing fantasy one made up of persons who could be infallibly trusted to choose the one correct path for the country.
>>80785379
>Implying it's not the Conservative party that needs destroying
>>80791713
Reinhard von Lohengramm?
Zombie Pitt the Younger?
Zombie Walpole?
Spoilt for choice, desu
>>80791713
a la republic?
Reminder that farage ran for speaker of the house of Commons
Would have been good banter but imagine how different politics would be if that happened
>>80791857
Nah, just link it up to a massive AI.
After all, it's just the facts that matter, just like how GDP is the sole indication of national good or prosperity.
>>80791465
Another irony: you tell me I live in a fantasy and you in reality. You then proceed to give me an imaginary situation that doesn't represent how things are to answer.
A society is built on its values, its traditions, its beliefs, and if you abandon them to win, what are you even preserving? My god, the white race is the best race on Earth, as they lie, cheat, steal and act no different from kikes. What a victory.
>having principles is elitist
????
>>80791821
>Implying it's not the Conservative party that needs destroying
There's nothing wrong with the Tory party that a leader with some fucking backbone won't solve.
That's why I'm backing mummy!
>>80792003
I prefer living on the Brexit timeline
>>80792003
>Reminder that farage ran for speaker of the house of Commons
>Would have been good banter but imagine how different politics would be if that happened
No he didn't. He ran against the MP who is the speaker, but if elected would have just been a normal MP.
The house would have had to elect another speaker (with frankly would have suited the Tories)
Traditionally, the other parties do not stand against "The Speaker Seeking Re-election" and the speaker does not make any political speeches.
>>80792103
>You then proceed to give me an imaginary situation that doesn't represent how things are to answer.
>I don't know how to decipher a simple riddle!
So, better that the white race be exterminated as the moral and tolerant good people they are than do anything that skirts your tight moral squeamishness!
It was a good civilisation we had, while you watched it burn.
>>80792028
I wouldn't trust the people feeding info to the AI.
>>80792145
she's socially liberal
>>80792632
Why not, it's just facts?
If you didn't trust them then why bother, you're just lowering the level of discourse.
>>80792582
I've been polite, but quite frankly, you're fucking retarded. Your riddle was, oh, imagine you're in a game where this and that and that! You imagine, then, life as a competitive, where there's a simple and straightforward winner. That's plainly false. How you play the game determines whether you're winning or losing because you're correct - we did have a good civilization. The British Empire was incredible, with emphasis on tradition and correct values. It wasn't a competition of, oh, look at us winning. It was a manner and style of living life that produced the greatest degree of prosperity and happiness.
You aren't even British. You're a market capitalist, neoconservative, wannabe American. Bravo, you cunt. It's because like you with your simplemindedness, two dimensionality, black and white, winning and losing, morality who've practically fucking destroyed the world. Gg.
>>80792638
>she's socially liberal
Get fucked she is.
>>80791355
Lurk more
>>80793096
Lacking an argument, the man goes into an ad hominem polemic of fantasy ideals of what the British Empire was like, without ever addressing how to deal with opponents who break his rules of discourse, and destroy his tradition, belief and values!
After all, he has no response, and no clue!
He'd rather stick to his dreams and looking down on competition, on which the empire's financial and industrial success was wrought, or any movement to win a culture war to turn back the clock!
It's too hard! He'd rather insult the people who want to fight back, instead of just let the continual destruction of those same traditions and "correct values"!
All because they aren't doing it right for his morals, out of place even during the golden era of his daydreams.
Childhood is when you idolize Hitchens
Adulthood is when you realize the Blairites were right all along
>>80793758
And to cap off, don't kid yourself about how "simpleminded" the country is or how you are truly following the right rules, and how that makes up for the millions who aren't.
You're not part of the dead aristocracy, or the gentry, and I doubt you have even distant ties to ANYONE of merit in those golden times.
You're just another guy like me, but with no self-awareness and living upon a high horse.
You're just a prize cuckold in the shed, laying back and taking it.
Thinking of a dead Britain.
>>80794915
>>80793758
You're misrepresenting what I said. Hardly surprising given your position.
I don't disapprove of competition. You represented life as a competition, and it's that which I was critical of. Are you genuinely so stupid you failed to recognise that nuance or are you such a cunt you deliberately misrepresented it? Probably the former, frankly. The way you live is crucially important for happiness, and if you do abandon truth, honesty and integrity, what you end up with is what we've got, no one knows what's right or wrong, truth is in flux and it becomes determined by whatever is convenient.
I'll reiterate because you've undoubtedly misunderstood. The media, the government, the world at large operates by emotional appeal, and with that, facts and truth are abandoned. People live in fantasies conjured up. No one knows what is true and what is false because both sides are doing it and deliberately skewering the truth. This is not a harmonious and happy way to live life. This should be the only argument necessary, frankly, because this behaviour undermines individual autonomy, and in the end, it's good for neither side. We just end up with a population of braindead, over emotional children -- does that sound familiar?
I'll give you a small example which may seem trivial but imagine it on a global scale. During the Cold War, the CIA financed all kinds of modern art movements, including Jackson Pollock, without these artists ever knowing they were being used to promote the CIA's propaganda that the USA had a booming art scene opposed to the USSR's cold, dead social realism-only policy. Now, given what you know about modern art, that it promotes degeneracy, liberalism and anti-white sentiment, this would seem counterintuitive, but it was the CIA's policy at the time and perhaps it contributed to the winning of the Cold War. In the long run, though, it's probably done great harm to the USA culturally. Such is the penalty for being a lying cunt.
>>80794915
he warned us
>>80794915
>>80788650
Well that's fine but some of us aren't useless cunts who can't spell.
>>80789597
Nope. Legit photo. I didn't take it but it's been doing the rounds for ages. That's a real human from Manchester.
>>80791470
Very much so lad. Very much so. It's quite obviously pronounced meem.
>checked out the people who disliked nigel's most recent facebook post
>profile catches my internet, EU flag in pic
>see header photo
>hmm
Just a coincidence guys?
https://www.kikebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152322988987471&set=a.423305197470.214137.506552470&type=3&theater
If it wasn't for Wales London would have won the EU referendum all by itself. London has gotten so powerful that soon it will become semi-autonomous. Everything between the M25 and the Scottish border is cuck-land. Scotland stands proud with us, we will be independent.
>>80797509
London needs to be gassed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-36771928
>Scottish police stealth bring armed patrols back already
Fuck yes. Get fucked anti statists. Get shot jocks
>>80795406
>You're misrepresenting what I said. Hardly surprising given your position.
The irony is astounding!
>>80799239
I described how you misrepresented what I said, and I then clarified and reclarified. You see, I think understanding and communication are important, and through them, we develop. You seem to think the opposite, that we should ignore everything and just hammer out our own message as hard as we can, whether we're wrong or not. No wonder, then, you've failed there to provide any explanation or clarification.
I think I've explained my points clearly enough, then, that it can be said with certainty that rather than self-aware, you're merely the product of the cultural environment of confusion in which you were raised. I hope you'll join me in the pursuit of truth instead of taking a side like life is a football match.
>>80800013
And to whit, I don't care, as proof you are losing the culture war, in pursuit of your "truth".
Polemics and lectures aren't persuasive, and they never were in the hundred to two years that you deify, and as much, I can dismiss you out of hand and continue doing as little as I can to get you to witter and retort to the sound of your own voice, wasting your time in meaninglessness just to reinforce your own sense of self righteousness.
If you all you have is screeching and lecture hall soapboxing, then you won't convince or persuade me that you are right, as someone who should be close to your thinking, and never mind persuading the many who wish to see your values, as mistaken a judgment of the past as they are, completely and irrevocably wiped out.
All you can do is to negatively persuade your point, pushing people further away while you evince yourself that you are true and right, and they must bring themselves to your level, not the other way around.
A man who thinks himself above it, sat only on a high horse, surrounded by a sea of knives.
>>80795406
>You represented life as a competition, and it's that which I was critical of.
I agree with you for the most part but disagreeing with this is retarded, from the tiniest single-cell organism to the biggest blue whale life is a competition for resources
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36547739
What's this?
Feeling scared scotcucks?
>>80801104
Another irony. You've said repeatedly I think I'm above it, but it's you who appears intoxicated with this idea that you're somehow enlightened with your harsh cynical view of the world. But alright, hardcore and edgy, you can perpetuate a system that distorts reality and creates polarizing visions of terror and only enforces your own misery. You're correct. I can't stop you. I can, however, frankly and righteously, warn you. You already seem borderline schizoid, to be honest.
>>80801116
Life is a competition in that sense, yes, but if you treat life like the only thing that matters is winning, and you sacrifice everything for your victory, with both sides doing precisely that, they merge into two identity factions waging a war against each other just because they're them and we're us.
>>80798609
>cops carrying guns
>this is a problem
>>80801993
And again, you continue to stand tall on the back of your high horse, failing to address how you can make a persuasive case for your values, because they simply stand up incorruptible by themselves.
All you have is insults, screaming about irony about how emotive polemics are bad by pulling your own ironic polemics.
You're a bargain bin Hitchens.
>>80802572
>cop shoots someone
>have 10,000 black people riot in your city
>>80802572
Disarmed population, disarmed police. It's only fair.
>>80802602
What? The argument I've made for honesty and truth is that they provide the best standard of life. I described the alternative, which we are living in. You're literally ignoring my argument then pretending I didn't make it. See: >>80795406
So yes, they do stand up incorruptible by themselves. Truth, whether you acknowledge it or not, will have its way, but if you take the time to be honest and perpetuate truth, you are in a far better position to make decisions and live. The fact is that if you live your life spreading fallacies and fictions to win an argument, and everyone else is doing exactly the same, you'll no longer know whether what you think and believe are based on fallacies and fictions spread by someone else. Take the time and effort to discover what is true rather than peddling half-truths and misinformation because it suits you and you're better off all around.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3687520/I-solve-migrant-crisis-New-PM-Theresa-vows-bring-control-British-borders-end-free-movement-EU-citizens.html
>>80803314
Piss off cuck
I want to see dead civilians. I want an American style police force where the populace can't shoot back
Faggots like you were made to have their brains bashed in by a nightstick
>>80801993
whichever side survives decides the future of a species so only in cases of mutually assured destruction is it truly pointless, when two colonies of ants go to war there is no higher purpose than survival of the colony due to they're them and we're us, that's just nature
>>80803683
>I want to see dead civilians.
>>80784772
How is Scotland compared to England in terms of the number of muzzies and Pakis? Are there white minority districts in major Scottish cities that are like East London?
>>80804054
Not really. For now it's overwhelmingly white.
>>80803682
She might just be ruthless enough to get it done, but we'll see.
>>80804054
Scotland is 96% white including other Europeans. They haven't had to experience the immigration England has, which is why they're so leftist.
>>80803558
That wasn't bad actually.
>>80804044
I support Islam (any theocracy will do) and am religious.
Neckbeard meme doesent apply to me.
Nice try athiest
>>80804054
Scots don't have cities
>>80804292
>I support Islam
>any theocracy will do
>LABOUR MEMBERS WHO JOINED AFTER JANUARY HAVE TO PAY £25 TO VOTE
Fucking hell they're not even trying to be subtle about it now.
>>80784772
Theresa May is a yummy mummy
Can she have my cummies?
>>80804292
>I support Islam (any theocracy will do)
Kill yourself, traitorous cuck.
>>80804399
She's not a mummy, her baby maker didn't work
>>80804392
You can't be a fedora if you're religious.
You are the fat neckbeard atheist for attacking me
>>80803682
I like what I've heard from her so far desu. Lets see if she lives up to her word.
>>80804195
>>80804235
Alright thanks for the info. I am planning to visit Scotland on vacation so I was worried about Pakis mugging me (had prior experience with some gypsy faggot when I visited France before).
>>80804340
What do you mean? What's Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, etc?
>>80804619
You support Islam, so yes you do have a neckbeard.
>I don't think I would make a good PM
>I don't want to be PM
>It's next to impossible that I will be the next PM
>'Hurr Boris is after my job'
>'Hes only doing this because he wants to be PM'
>BREAKING: SHOCK IN GOVERNMENT AS BORIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE NEXT PM
How was this even news when the man himself was saying he would not take the job?
>>80804421
I honestly don't give. a shit
I get off on seeing people rebel and then get crushed.
You Americans might be free. And too pesky to enslave now But there nothing that enrages me more than people trying to act American over here.
No you will sit down and get fucked by the state. Fucking anarchist scum
No guns. So shut up and sit down
Snoopers charter better be soon. Freedomfag buthurt will be glorious
>>80804851
>>80804991
Just stay out it when 1984 comes.
Nothing I hate more than meddling liberators
>>80803558
>You're ignoring my argument!
No, I'm not pretending you didn't make it, I'm saying it's not persuasive, and because it's not persuasive, it doesn't matter. I don't care to win arguments, I care to persuade minds.
Truth alone does nothing, additional nothings for their being no single truth, truth does not persuade or else we would not be living in perilous times, as the millions divulge away from your "Truth" and towards someone else's "Truth".
Ignore that at your own pace and will, and your own danger. Surely you will be right, when no one believes you, and at worse, sentences your death for wrong thoughts because you were too slow to catch up.
>>80804761
ayyyy
who /crying/ here
>>80805986
Angela?
>>80805986
>>80805224
Have you read 1984? I assume you have because most people have. When you read that book, were you going, "yeah, Big Brother is right. 2 + 2 does equal 5." I mean, O'Brien wasn't the hero of that book. You're a weird fucking guy, to be honest.
I think we're done here anyway. I've made my point that truth will win out whether you're with it or against it, that truth provides the best standard of life, that if abandoned, you become indistinguishable from the enemy, and it becomes a struggle for naught. In fact, I'll ask you one question: how are you even fighting? Who are persuading minds against? Who are the bad guys in your narrative?
>>80787870
>came from some really obscure Turkish muffins
Anon I believe it actually originated from World of Warcraft, in which when a horde player typed 'lol', it auto-translated to 'kek' for alliance players. Around the time 'top kek' appeared, 'top lel' was already in use. As far as I'm aware, since 'kek' already meant 'lol' anyway, the union of the two memes were a natural evolution.
But do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, cunt
>>80806363
>Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right
>>80806230
Is she the man of the relationship?
>>80792103
>your post is le ironic!
It was cute the first time but now it just makes you sound like a butthurt moron trying to sound intelligent.
>>80806363
>more false equivalencies and polemics and an inability to define what is the one real truth he's looking for
>BEST SAY HE'S JUST LIKE MY EMOTIVE POLEMIC FICTION!
This has been fun!
>>80807351
I asked you who you're trying to persuade minds for and against. I hope you're better at persuading them than you are at persuading me. I really want to know.
I thought you'd appreciate 1984 though. It fits my point, and it was hugely persuasive. You know I love irony, and ironically, 1984 has a long history of use as a piece of propaganda, with George Orwell working indirectly with the CIA to have it published in countries at risk of a Communist takeover.
For real - who's the enemy?.
Shitskins?
Jews?
Liberals?
Blairites?
>>80801993
>simply pointing out how the real world operates and that you must play by it's rules or you will inevitably fail at anything you try
>"You already seem borderline schizoid"
And you seem borderline retarded, actually wait no scratch the borderline you're just retarded.
>>80807734
Get fucked by an emu, you australian shiteater.
>>80807828
Seriously how can you not get what that guy is saying? Yeah it would be nice if we lived in some wondrous utopia where everyone was honest all the time and only ever used logically sound arguments but we don't live in that do we, we live in the real world where the truth is irrelevant and emotional arguments are the only ones that works, it's not nice it's just that's how works, you sound like some stupid religious person (there are other kinds) raging about how an atheistic world sounds horrible and therefore god has to be real.
>muh Orwell!
Orwell was a hopeless idealist who failed horribly, look at the world around us 50 years after he wrote 1984, do you really think that book made any kind of difference?
>>80807627
>Who's the enemy?
You'll figure out eventually. You'll find the truth, won't you?
Why did you not believe may wins from the start
>>80808458
No. The truth will find him.
>>80808202
I understand what he's saying. My response is, though, you only make the situation worse by recognising and then joining in on that kind of practice. It doesn't help further your cause. It endangers it, and it debases the standard of life. If you peddle your own lies in response to lies on top of more lies, all used to persuade people, you lose sight of truth, and everything ends up jeopardized as everyone is confused, angry and uninformed, with emotions the only currency. "That's just how the world is!" is a lot of shit because it's quite clearly a choice between making the effort to inform yourself and acting like an over emotional cunt.
>>80808810
What? Everyone expected May to win.
>>80808458
The enemy is braindead cunts like you. Got it.
>>80784772
>keek
evrydime
>>80796387
it's maymay, you idiot.
>>80809257
Someone seems mad. Don't let the red film affect your truthvision!
>>80809051
>I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HISTORY AND REALITY OF THE PAST WAS LIKE SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A PAINFUL ORIGINAL FICTION OF A WORLD THAT I WISH WAS TRUE, AND IT WAS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH!
I thought you were finished?
>>80808830
That's a good one.
So May is expected to put a lot of women in the cabinet for the sake of it. I don't see what could go wrong. At least Priti Patel should get something.
>>80810248
I am finished. I'm finished clarifying my position to you because you're quite clearly an edgy teenager.
>>80786230
>there are people who masturbate to Japanese drawings of British naval officers caricatured as slutty girls
>top-tier politicians and "great men of history" are now discussing ironic-turned-lunatic religions based on the fusing of a cartoon frog and a minor ancient Egyptian deity
I don't think there's any coming back from this.
>>80787495
He was a literal cuck.
He deserved to die simply for his lack of self-respect as a man.
>>80790448
Nicholas was also very likely a cuck, as were a lot of the pre-WW2 aristocracy, in all the big countries.
It's really fucked up what you find if you dig deep enough.
George Orwell was right.
>>80810411
Keep going, surely you'll persuade SOMEONE eventually!
>>80810893
I persuaded your mum to take my dick into her mouth but it wasn't very difficult.
>>80810992
What was that about edgy teenagers?
Or did the level of discourse hurt your feelings.
>>80811125
He seemed to acclimatise well to that level of discourse.
>>80811125
>w- w- what was... that
Holy shit you're fucking pathetic.
Part of telling the truth is calling a faggot a faggot and you're a faggot.
Does the edgy teenager not like it?
>>80811331
Poor babby still mad, so mad he even stumbles and has to explain his own joke!
Should little schnuckems get back on his tall rocking horse?
>>80811238
After all the posturing, I'm surprised it took him such a short time to fall to exactly the same level he was screaming about.
Brexit leader Nigel Farage will attend the Republican National Convention next week and share lessons about the United Kingdom’s decision to leave the European Union, he told USA TODAY on Tuesday.
"Having criticized President Obama for getting involved in British politics, I am not about to endorse anybody," Farage said. "But I do know a lot of people in the Republican Party, and I'll be interested to hear what Donald Trump has to say in his big speech.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/nigel-farage-attend-republican-convention-225434
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/07/12/brexit-leader-farage-has-lessons-trump-gop/86986562/
>>80811595
What joke did I explain? You've 20 times in this thread. The joke that you are has been well explained.
>that desperate
Wew. Maybe if you could use your incredible persuasion skills to convince anyone in life that you're anything but a worthless piece of shit.
>>80785749
This. I admire his tenacity in the ace of all this bullshit
So Farage is coming to the GOP Convention
just to make it more farcical
Free non-alcoholic beverage with every Labour membership. Vegan snacks are free at the bar.
>>80812606
I follow politics fairly closely, but even this guy for me I was like "literally WHO?"
>>80812606
Yeah I have no idea who this is either
So, it sounds like May legit might be as bad as people thought. But I guess we will see
What do Eagle and Owen have in common?
Such is the level of concern about the "abuse in this debate", Ross says that sources told him the NEC has suspended all local Labour meetings until after the leadership contest "because of concerns about harassment, intimidation and bullying".
>watching BBC News
>Theyre peaking with a 20 something labour councillor who thinks its unfair that May is getting into No. 10 without a GE
>Demanding democracy
>Interviewer asks MP stood right next to him who is labour whether they (labour, and the country) have the stomach to do another GE
>"No, definitely not"
Hope that young councillor gets the sack trying to spread his delusions
Cameron's circle - and the honours they could receive
Ed Llewellyn, Chief of Staff
Mr Llwellyn has been at Mr Cameron’s side since he entered 10 Downing Street in May 2010, effectively as his gate keeper. He is said covet an overseas ambassador role.
Tipped for: Peerage
Gabby Bertin, Director of External Affairs
Ms Bertin has been with Mr Cameron since before he became party leader. She originally worked as his spokesman before taking a more background job.
Tipped for: Peerage
Camilla Cavendish, Head of Policy Unit
A former trustee of Policy Exchange, the thinktank which did so much to develop thinking by Tory modernisers, Ms Cavendish was a Times journalist before she joined the unit in 2015.
Tipped for: Peerage
Laura Trott, Head of Strategic Communications
A former special adviser to Francis Maude, when he was Cabinet Office minister, Ms Trott was brought into Number 10 to advise on policies to benefit women.
Tipped for: Peerage
Chris Lockwood, Former Deputy Head of the Policy Unit
The former US editor of the Economist, Mr Lockwood was one of the six journalists that the Prime Minister listed as a personal friend in his evidence to the Leveson inquiry into press ethics. He worked in the policy unit from 2013 to 2015.
Tipped for: Peerage
>>80816372
>http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/corbyn-doppelganger-steals-the-show-outside-labour-ballot-meeting/ar-BBugCOU?li=BBoPOOl&ocid=mailsignout
kek
Craig Oliver, Director of Communications
Mr Oliver, a former BBC executive, joined Mr Cameron as his £140,000-a-year head of communications in February 2011 after the resignation of Andy Coulson.
Tipped for: Knighthood
Gavin Williamson MP, Parliamentary Private Secretary
Mr Williamson’s stature has grown immeasurably as a key buffer between Tory MPs and Mr Cameron. He was at Mr Cameron’s side on the night of the EU referendum.
Tipped for: Knighthood
Liz Sugg, Head of Operations
Ms Sugg has been a mainstay for Mr Cameron, often never more than a few feet from the Prime Minister on his visits around the UK and overseas.
Tipped for: CBE
Ameet Gill, Director of Strategy
Mr Gill has been an ever-present at Mr Cameron’s side for nine years. A former speech writer he was praised last July for one of Mr Cameron’s most important speeches on tackling Islamic extremism.
Tipped for: CBE
Dan Korski, Digital adviser
Mr Korski, a digital advisor, played a key role in Mr Cameron’s lengthy EU renegotiations. He was criticised for complaining to the British Chambers of Commerce hours before its then-director general John Longworth was suspended earlier this year for making pro-Brexit comments.
Tipped for: OBE or MBE
Clare Foges, former speech writer
Ms Foges, who stood down as Mr Cameron’s speech writer at the last general election, was writing speeches for Mr Cameron aged just 27.
Tipped for: OBE or MBE
Chris Hopkins, Business Adviser
Mr Hopkins made headlines earlier this year when he helped to organise letters from large companies backing Britain to stay in the European Union head of the referendum.
David Cameron said Mr Hopkins was doing an “excellent job” when challenged over the letters in February.
Tipped for: OBE or MBE
May is from that kind of Women who lead countries to revolution
>>80816372
Time to delete the House of Best Buddies, full to the brim with establishment friends
>>80816414
forgot pic
>>80788533
That might be accurate if it weren't for the fact the remain argument got shredded every time it was put under scrutiny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2fSXp6N-vs
really sad for you brits
>>80816431
Kek
Perks of the job innit
>>80816684
They never made a case for remaining. They made a case for why it's a bad idea to leave. They banked on a completely negative campaign, like a defense lawyer attacking the prosecution's case. Sure my client may be an utter cunt, but the prosecution haven't made the elements for the particular level of douchebaggery of which he's accused.
At least with the Scotland referendum they had good things to say about the UK as well as reasons why it'd be a disaster to leave.
Just read that the day when Eagle announced her leadership bid, Corbyn was at some Cuban event in solidarity with the fucking Castros
The man is a joke, so long as he's in charge of the British left, May will rule Britain for years to come.
>>80818070
>This man is a joke
And we love him for it.
Just got home from working nights, on my way home I saw two skinless polish men by the side of the road being forced to wave a union jack made from their skin while 2 ukip supporters whipped them and yelled 'death to EU citizens, long live farage'
Huh, really breaks your heart.
>>80818891
wtf we need a second referendum to get it right this time
>>80818891
I was in Bedford visiting my sister, and I saw these two young men in St. George cross hoodies shoving a Muslim woman down a well while singing the national anthem, it really made me think
>>80818070
with the cubans not the castros.
>>80784772
It's obvious now: Corbyn was made to say ideals that went counter to his values (pro-Remain), to remain leader of the party. He's now shedding the skin of 'new Labour' to be rid of these Blairite parasites and return the party back to the old Labour party which did represent working people. God bless him, even though Labour is a Socialist party.
Just came back from the gym, watching Sky News and the Labour Party collapsing.
Comfy times lads.
If Corbyn wins he will be challenged "again and again ... until eventually he is defeated" say Labour First group
"If Corbyn is re-elected, however wide the margin, MPs are not going to go crawling back to him saying they made a mistake." - Labour First
