>>80760112
Stupid, we need a Kekist movement.
The event that really cemented our nation's fall.
Why do you guys even make these fucking threads? You already know what everyone is going to say. It's just going to be 98% of people saying that sex and any kind of partying is "degenerate" and destroying western civilization and 2 people argue from a reasonable perspective will get called cucks, jews and degenerates until they leave.
What is the fucking point?
>>80762105
t. Degenerate
>>80760112
Nothing better then Hippies getting beatem up by cops
SAVAGED
>>80760112
that picture pretty much sums it up
>>80762105
Because contracting stds and raising other people's kids is so fucking cool right?
>>80760112
My parents went through a hippie phase and get butthurt when I tell them I hate hippies. They basically buttfucked this country with their retarded movement and began the downward spiral. Most worthless culture I can possibly think of. They only like it for their nostalgia blindness too because my sister does hippie-ish things like take LSD, molly, etc. and go to music festivals and they give her constant shit for it for not having her life together. Stupid. I hate everything about hippies.
>>80760112
Jewish let movement along with feminism and Betty Friedan
now follow me anons >>80761219
Music and movies that game from that generation were p gudd.
Psyop and controlled opposition.
Every counter culture has been bought and sold. Look at the punks, edm, hippies, gangsta rap, rock-n-rednecks(shinesown, nickel back), juggalos.
Its all controlled opposition, a lot of it deals with music.
>>80760112
Search your heart, you know I'm right.
Woodstock was a fucking mistake.
My dad went to Vietnam instead of being a socialist douchebag hippie, Pretty proud of him. If I can find any photos Ill share
>>80766019
reminder that 4chan and "internet culture" is also controlled opposition.
4chan and memes are the new hippie movement and 4chan users are eating it right up.
/b/ was a psyop from the start, and now the seeds planted there were brought into the mainstream via Tumblr, Reddit
4chan itself was the place it was first planted though. 4chan was not natural.
Lot of you people were able to be born because of it so be grateful
>>80766081
By the time Woodstock happened, the idea had long outran what was going o
If you guys would like some awesome redpills and perhaps a new lense on what's happening, check out the book "Acid Dreams"-its about the social history of LSD.
>>80761872
>tfw you could kill your entire family by accident
>tfw seatbelts ruined the fun
why even live?
>>80766081
what people here don't realize, is that Internet culture is rooted in the very same 60's counterculture crap. Look at people like Richard Stallman. Kike marxists through and through.
the whole "internet freedom, anonymity, fight the man!" attitude is just more controlled opposition. the Internet was never for freedom but for your own control via entertainment and porn.
Believe it or not, internet censorship is the LAST thing the elite/kikes want. They WANT places like 4chan, they WANT internet "freedom" because that's how they promote degeneracy and detachment from reality.
>>80766081
Do you know what's funny about photographs from Woodstock? The chicks are actually cute. If you had the same event today with the same amount of people, there would be heaps of fatties converging upon the music festival.
What I'm trying to say is that the degeneracy has gotten worse with the addition of gluttony.
>>80766396
Oh my fucking god shut the fuck up you dis info shill. Yeah, let's compartmentalize the internet instead of holding people accountable. Can't wait to pay 5.99 a month for Facebook, Youtube and CNN! Only 3.99 more and we get MSNBC, Netflix and Snapchat!
Kill yourself
Internet culture is a psyop, but its not cointel-its leading you down a path that you can't go back from. People don't get redpilled and suddenly go "oh, guess I'll just ignore all that and go back" because you fucking can't. You best get on the right side of history, /pol/ is a board of peace.
Right-wing and pro-pot
>>80766396
>kike corporations WANT you to be free from their control!
Can't tell if you're kidding.
>>80760112
I love the sexual revolution it was fucking awesome
Now I can get laid pretty much on demand whereas back in the day women were all stuck up prudes and you'd get married at 20 and that would be your life's sole fuck
Meanwhile I'm 27 years old and have had sex with over 1000 (ONE THOUSAND) women and every time it felt awesome when I jizzed especially knowing that they selected my superior genetics
Only angry ugly virgins hate the sexualization of society
>>80766081
Woodstock was the best thing to happen. It was the most capitalist thing ever thought up in the 60's. It was thought up and organized to squeeze money out of hippies in the name of "free love." Some "hippie" musicians wouldn't even go out on stage unless they were paid enough. Fucking best thing to happen and started the downfall of the hippie movement by making it mainstream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1wcDiOuo6Q
>>80766781
it leads you down a path where you know the truth but keep going further and further into degeneracy even when you KNOW it's wrong.
Porn is the primary example and it pervades every corner of the Internet especially the chans. The screen distances you from reality through encouraging roleplaying.
>>80760112
LSD is a hell of a drug
>>80766790
>implying they're not spying on you anyway
they want you to THINK you're free from their control while they still own you.
You're only "free" to sit in front of your screen jacking off and following the latest fear-porn trends while you could be reading real books.
Honestly it wasn't the drugs or the sex, they are merely symptoms. The problem was always the people and the ideology. The retarded ideas and values put in people's heads back then have poisoned the well for decades, if not centuries, to come.
>>80766924
Accountability faggot, and self control. I'm on /pol/ all day every day when I feel like it, I don't browse porn.
Go drop 1000ug of clean L, come back and tell me about your degenerate habits.
Don't tell me about other people's anecdotal experience.
>>80761872
symptom, not a cause
not that I believe in said downfall, but if your glorious nation was so weak it would fall apart to people using recreational drugs, it probably wasn't that great to begin with
>>80766836
I've fucked 7 different women through my life before settling and I feel that's a good amount; don't care to have more. I've rejected plenty of uggos. What on Earth would drive you to fuck a thousand different slags? Guarantee you've got venereal diseases.
>>80762105
Nothing wrong with sex and partying
Just don't party all the time
And don't fuck anything and everything with legs
That's the problem we have
Otherwise you wind up as OP's Pepe
Look, (((christopher poole))) was a Jew, and this site is just another layer of the deception.
You want to think it's not because you're so attached to it. It's exactly how hippies feel about the psychadelic and rock culture. It makes you feel free and liberated.
>>80766836
How did you have time for that?
>>80766315
Born into what? A nightmare. People are still being born today because of the warped values of the time. People who can not be afforded, people who are a burden, people who exist for the vanity of their parents, people who are too numerous for the economy, people who themselves are ruined by those same warped values, people who will go on to make exactly the same mistakes.
>>80767017
It's been known from the beginning that j00t was feeding the FBI everything he collects here - he was very open about it. While not the best case scenario, it's different from having to log in to your paid subscription account to access the website and moderators who ban you if you disagree with the consensus.
Any other pro-pot conservatives?
>>80767390
this is the obvious part
what's not obvious is that the culture here has been grown by outside interests. Think of how the trap meme spread from Linetrap on /b/ until it became mainstream on Tumblr.
>>80767368
Well if you hate your life so much why won't you just kill yourself
A repeat of 20s Germany
>>80767402
I don't smoke pot and I look down on pot smokers, they're mostly lazy retards, but I don't think it should be illegal.
>>80762105
i've literally never seen a thread in post 2008 4chan where the majority of the posters thought it was a bad idea to fuck strangers and do drugs
4chan is full of normies
>>80767402
Look up the grateful dead.
Right wing biker hippies who keep the world on such a long leash because they have full confidence in the power of psychadelics.
You best start believing in psyops, we're living one
>>80761872
>tfw you will never live in the 50's
why live?
>>80767402
>>80767551
I want it to be legal so that potheads will stop pretending it cures everything.
>>80760112
Yeah, getting laid and having fun is fucking stupid.
I can show you why the Hippie movement mysteriously vanished. I'm unrelated. I was born to a Christian family in a small town with conservative values. Through Jesus I became a pacifist and eventually a Buddhist and am basically neo-hippie or whatever I don't fucking know but I can tell you that the emotional cycle is heavily talked about in the music during the sexual revolution and hippie era. It specifically describes it. Talks about it in a literal, specific way. Not in a symbolic metaphorical picturesque way to describe the thought pattern, it follows a logical, sound way.
I'm pretty sure the movement was just shut down and ended through the use of music. I noticed a weird trend of music telling everyone to go home towards the end of the hippie era. It's like it was just a push and then it ended. Why? What happened? The push just dissolved.
I've heard rumors about who did what, but I dunno.
>>80767402
Hear hear.
>>80767674
m8, in the current year, it's the normies who think it's a GOOD idea to fuck strangers and do drugs.
>>80766781
3.99 is pretty good for netflix tho senpai
wrong answer to wrong policies, Americans did it to themselves when they went full retard in Vietnam
>>80767690
so you're left wing?
>>80767865
what i'm saying is that, starting in 2009 or so, 4chan has never had a thread wherein the majority of posters were not normies
meaning since 2009 or so, threads where drugs and hookup culture come up have had a majority population of posters who approved or did not disapprove of these behaviors
>>80760112
This "revolution" is just a personal choice. I don't care about somebody else's choice.
>>80768208
I think even old 4chan was full of degenerates. They just have their own kinds of non-social degeneracy
>>80767402
Yup. I'm a hard working corporate type that no one would expect.
>>80760313
is that a mint condition, first edition, ultra rare papa pepemeritus pepe?
mind if I save it friend?
>>80760112
>Thoughts on sexual revolution
It's basically the reason western women have become such shit.
>>80767694
There has been way more anti-pot propaganda. Marijuana does help with certain conditions. It's more about freedom in my mind.
>>80768019
No, Trump supporter, staunch believer in psychadelics fixing our situation. I've squatted in abandoned buildings with antifa scum, lived in San Francisco for fun, traveled up and down the west coast. Believe me anon, I know why I'm conservative. Demonizing sexuality isn't going to help anything, neither will encouraging kids to fuck like animals-both with drive a wedge into the community. Drugs are the same. Complete abstinence only encourages people to lie and hide, the alternative is enabling them to harm themselves and others directly or indirectly.
Psychadelics are a classification on their own. Dosing seriously isn't "fun", its extremely terrifying and uncomfortable. Ask anyone how much they enjoy blasting off on DMT.
>>80767132
This-- our tendency is to over-simplify situations. When you look at the bigger picture, it all starts to make sense. Personally, I believe our seeds of destruction were sowed centuries ago.
>>80767690
I don't know why, but that image makes me angry.
>>80768304
i would argue that people back then even if they had self-destructive tendencies, they were far more likely to have the presence of mind to acknowledge they were dysfunctional and their bad habits were ultimately deteriorating their mental, physical, spiritual, etc. health
nowadays you get tons of self-obsessed PUA-type dudebros on here who cry 'weeaboo', 'virgin', 'autist', etc. the moment you reveal you don't in fact have a massive impulse to fuck every woman you see, that you don't need to get drunk or high to have fun, that you don't enjoy getting wasted at parties or clubs
this did not happen in the past
>>80768750
Its an iconic image and pattern, you've probably seen it thousands of times without knowing it
Look up the artist, Robert Crumb
Metapilled
>>80768688
the cause was the industrial revolution desu, that and the control of the banking elite after the Civil War and "reconstruction".
though purist reactionaries might say the cause was the founding of America itself and the Enlightenment, though perhaps true in terms of government it wasn't until the industrial era that the liberal ideas from then spread widely and started tearing apart social norms.
And of course by the time we fought on the wrong side in two world wars we were already dead.
People underestimate the effects of technologies in destroying culture slowly though
>>80768818
Yes that I agree with.
/r9k/ is the clearest example of this, both that and /pol/ are FULL of the types you describe, virgin shamers etc.
>>80768951
what ya gunna do about it, hick? whine a lot?
Hippies were way ahead of the curve, you may have dreams and plans right now anon but the fundamental fact is that there's not much more to life than doing ecstasy and fucking stranger. It's not like anything you manage to do is going to be important or meaningful, cosmologically speaking
>>80769087
At this point, I'm part of the same problem (as a software engineer)
I just see it for what it is.
>>80760112
Image pretty much sums it up. They targeted the brightest and kindest hearts with drug culture and fucking decimated our future 10/10 wife reserves.
>>80769194
drunkard
>>80769286
wew, you know it's a choice on how you perceive things? i guess your life must suck
Quite honestly, casual sex is overrated. Marrying a virgin tradwife is the way to go.
>>80762105
> My emotional argument is reasonable
>>80767657
you're a fucking idiot if you believe that
do you live out in the fucking sticks?
>>80760112
Wow, that's basically me except without ecstasy and fucking strangers.
>>80768951
That's actually a really good point. I'd always considered the ideas that came from the enlightenment the beginning of our end, but considering how instrumental the IR was to reshaping western society, it likely played a major role. I believe we need a reevaluation of our entire moral and value systems if we are going to survive together in peace.
>>80760112
A backlash against the ultra-conservative stance of the late 40s/50s, which is the true culprit of why the US's culture swings so hard either way every other election.
>>80769626
people don't realize though that morals of the masses are by and large the result of technology, and perhaps they can't exist with modern technologies available to most
tradition was tied to the landed way of life, simple farming, small villages etc.
the Internet itself is fundamentally liberalizing and anti-traditional. Even 4chan itself is degenerate, and really anonymity is societal cancer as it removes mechanisms for social shaming.
Sexual Revolution is the reason for the downfall of the family unit. Its about to get much worse before it gets better.
>>80766081
>"let's change the world by making a big concert filled with drugs and sex, that'll surely make something happen"
god i hate hippies
people weren't as degenerate because they HAD TO to survive.
They had to marry and have kids to take care of them (no hospitals or modern comforts) and work on the farm.
They couldn't spend their days partying because there were no machines to do the backbreaking labor for them. etc.
Outside of monks, clergy etc the average joe wasn't thinking "I'm going to get fit and have kids to save the white race and fight for God", they just HAD to to survive and it was the only way they knew.
>>80762105
i bet you fucking love niggers too. you're a jew hugging cuck of the highest degree.
>>80760112
That time also had the best concerts though.
See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bld_-7gzJ-o
>>80768530
It cures cancer!
>>80762105
Because /pol/ is 24/7 constant spergfests and the time frame currently is when the NEET population finally wakes up because their lack of proper sleeping schedule/discipline.
I agree anon it's the same shit over and over with these slide threads.
>WOMEN ARE ALL EVIL VAGINA JEWS AND RESPOSIBLE FOR ALL DA DEGENERACY
>DA JOOS MADE WIMMINZ LIKE THIS
>UR A GIANT KEK DISAGREEING WITH OUR OPINIONS!
>YUR A GIANT DEGENERATE AND CONTRIBUTING THE COLLAPSE OF THE WEST!!111
This site is literally the flipside coin of tumblr for friendless males, losers, and pseudo intellectuals (not shitting on the pseudos, they make great threads sometimes imo)
Nobody is ever going to find some of these anons attractive because it's just grow up men feeling sorry for themselves and summerfags who can't get laid during the easiest time of their life to do so (high school)
>>80762105
Yiddish cuck detected.
Have fun with those STDs and outstanding child support payments.
>>80760112
>drugs suddenly appears that causes a total and powerful change in the political thought of an entire generation
>there are people who think that those drugs make you redpilled
LSD and other psychedelics are the most blatant example of mind control and cultural subversion in the history of man.
>>80770748
nah the Internet is the same thing but even worse and even more pervasive because people don't realize they're being controlled.
>>80770748
>the most blatant example of mind control and cultural subversion
you mean christianity and islam
>>80766396
>only form of right wing thought among young people is on websites with little to no regulations when it comes to free speech
>hurr free speech is bad and we need to end it
KILL YOURSELF
KILL YOURSELF
KILL YOURSELF
KILL YOURSELF
FUCK YOU FUCKING KIKE
>>80761872
look at the fucking legroom
how far we've fallen
>>80769844
>>80770034
It's an obvious trend among great civilizations that the more comfortable their living is, the more liberal they become. Technology as certainly made our lives easier. If our current moral systems are the result of developing technologies, and we are dependent on technology, then there is no clear solution. Only when faced with inevitable scarcity will we revert back to our old ways. It seems necessary then to impose some form of social control through eugenics, efficient resource allocation, restricted voter registration, and limited immigration-- just to start.
>>80770933
You're right, maybe in this moment it's not a good idea, but in an ideal right wing society sites like this wouldn't exist or be needed.
too many people here get infected with the belief that censorship is inherently bad, instead of realizing it's GOOD if used right
>>80770825
At least the internet is gradual, and the subversion is not homogenous.
Psychedelics and the political change that came with them in the cultural equivalent of a night.
>>80770830
Literally over hundreds of years, and subject to the same change and drift as any other religious institution.
If you think the pagans weren't any worse or better, then you're a fool.
>>80771103
>eugenics
and sadly we have to realize that us 4channers are the bottom of the barrel in terms of genetics in a lot of ways
>>80766019
Juggalos are not controlled opposition, just dumb.
Violent J and Shaggy 2-Dope are not smart enough to be in on something like that.
>>80770933
>implying it's not
Free speech is what gave the kikes and their spawn power in the first place you retarded Kraut.
>>80771283
really if you think about it mass literacy was a mistake
most people were happy living simple lives with no burden of information, and the greatest literature was written when literacy was a privilege for the few disciplined in it.
Most people here on this very board would have been happier as peasants with no need to have knowledge of the outside world
Psychedelics are based. It's the reason I was led here in the first place. Stay woke, senpai.
>>80770585
>WOMEN ARE ALL EVIL
Not really.
>>80766336
LSD can be wonderful...if you're a strong-minded person with a good grip on reality. I've done acid over 50 times, ranging from 1-10 tabs. Never done anything crazy. I have a car, job, wife, kids, house. Still do shrooms sometimes to this day.
Anyone who says "all psychedelics make people crazy" have never tried any, and all stories about someone "freaking out," usually those people mixed drugs with alcohol, and on top of that they were weak-minded pansies who had no idea what they were doing.
>>80770585
>DA JOOS MADE WIMMINZ LIKE THIS
Not really. Women were always like this.
>>80768750
Its the noses
>>80770748
Sorry anon, you swallowed the blue pill on this one.
The people who were redpilled by acid realized what they had when they had it. They're letting the whole world go the wrong way so they can come back and save it.
"New Age" shill bullshit faggots do everything but actually take a bunch of acid. If they did, they'd reflect and realize how retarded they are.
There's so many levels here, you're not read enough on the subject to comment on it. Furthermore, Jews actually don't want you to have Psychadelics-despite what controlled opposition you might see.
Its used for mind control in small groups, purposefully attuning each other to a particular awareness. As more people dose together, the overall "awareness" of the whole increases.
>>80760112
Basically inevitable once the pill came along, of course people are gonna have a lot of casual sex when you introduce (perceived to be) effective contraception. Likewise, when STD's get much riskier (AIDS), people will dial it down.
>>80771227
That doesn't mean you're not useful. Just look at "Brave New World" caste system. But seriously, we need to at least establish some solid credentials for reproduction. In Singapore, for example, they pay women with college degrees to reproduce. As genetic screening technology advances, there should be mandatory screening for genetic diseases. And most importantly, those demonstrating a propensity for violence should also be barred from reproduction, unless society decides we need aggressive people for some things (like military occupations).
>>80770825
Proof that disinfo shills don't want you to have Psychadelics.
This faggot wants to compartmentalize the internet and our heads.
>>80760112
Cultural Marxism at its finest.
Funny how most of them grew up, and just got jobs.
>>80771915
I'm skeptical of BNW being a good thing.
It's happening and it really seems that the UN and other such groups are purposely pushing it.
I especially question things like transhumanism and genetic engineering, because I think materialism has been destructive to society and this is just man trying to become God again
>>80771915
This makes sense but you have to realize a lot of things being passed off as "genetic" diseases are really environmental. Autism being a clear example.
>>80771448
>mass literacy was a mistake
Hillary voters in a nutshell everyone. Ignorance is better because of the niggers ruining awareness for the rest of us.
Get out, shill
Barring a huge disaster, literacy isn't going back into a box. The sexual revolution isn't going back in a box. Technology isn't going back in a box. We need to recalculate and reaim instead of pretending we're in the garden and can be kicked out for sinning. Clothes were never meant for humans, but can we go without clothes now?
>>80772201
It was considered a dystopia for a reason-- I was only making the point that establishing a firm standard for reproduction would be a challenging, but necessary, first step. All our thinking is useless if we stop at analysis-- if you are intelligent enough to astutely perceive the current sad state of society, I believe you also have a responsibility to devise solutions and openly discuss them.
>>80772609
honestly, I hate the very idea of it but some sort of complete ban of personal computers and home internet might be needed
the other idea is an arranged marriage / matchmaking system, not forced by law but encouraged. This could utilize technology.
>>80772435
Clearly, many with asperges and HFA demonstrate exceptional problem-solving capabilities. Their mind's heuristics just differ from most other people's. It won't be easy, but we need to decide which diseases are destructive and more importantly, bare an actual cost to society.
>>80772917
that's the thing though. Autists like me do bare an actual cost if it becomes the norm.
and I see technology making it the norm, more so than it being a genetic phenomenon. Even the genetic component if it exists is the result of people like me being able to meet other introverts via success in the tech industry, and reproduce with them.
>>80767161
I'm clean I'm very selective about my partners
>>80766836
Women come onto me literally all the time
I can't remember the last time I actually hit on girls
>>80772844
Computers are too useful. We can progress responsibly with technology if we implement proper social mechanisms as mentioned before. Arranged marriages, I think, definitely had their merits. If we look at reproduction and family-raising from a more utilitarian perspective, we would likely have greater success. In the past, these institutions were upheld on cultural and religious bases. In the modern era, we simply require more practical justifications for their enforcement, which I think we can provide.
>>80773379
I didn't say ban all computers, but make them for work and public use only
>>80771153
One of the essential ideas backing libertarianism and classical liberalism is the recognition that governments are flawed, and that while certain powers could conceivably be used for good they're too dangerous and likely to be misused to trust the government with. Even if you accept that there is some speech that is better off banned, do you really trust the government to make that call?
>>80773082
So then we create different kinds of people suited for different things, but choose to value everyone in the society as equals each doing their part. We need people like you to make faster computers and cure diseases. As long as we don't have autists everywhere doing everything, there would be no cost. This is why I emphasize efficient resource allocation as a necessary condition to survive the new world, along with eugenics.
>>80773379
but I don't like the idea of the central state directly enforcing things like marriage.
That's why I look back and see how much more organic it was before technology. You could have marriages naturally made by parents between two people in the village. I don't like the impersonal element of the state directly matchmaking people.
Perhaps a middle ground would be a system that lets like people (physically and socially) find each other
>>80773707
So maybe personal computers and internet should only be allowed for certain castes of society and professions?
>>80772496
>Clothes were never meant for humans, but can we go without clothes now?
Revocs pls go.
>>80773548
Maybe. But communication is too important. We rely on personal computers and phones for lots of things, more than just work and research. It provides us with lots of benefits; the negative consequences of having them can be negated with responsible policy-making.
>>80773625
I trust smaller governments to make this call, the only issue is the scale.
>>80772917
That's the general problem with mental health, we can all pretty much agree on many physical conditions being bad, but we aren't in the same agreement with the mind. HFA is a clear example, and artists also tend to be bipolar, depressive, or otherwise off-kilter in some way.
>>80773854
Perhaps. But those are the questions we should deal with if and when society gets there. Presently, we need real, pragmatic solutions if we want change. I believe discussions beyond that would be based too much on supposition.
>>80774123
>pragmatic
do you think it's valuable to ally with certain elements of the Left (for example, feminists who want to shut down porn, even for the wrong reasons)
or is this a terrible idea because they'll just abuse it?
>>80767402
Aye, flag regardless.
>>80773717
You point out the crux of the issue-- how do we responsibly progress? It needs to be balanced, but with such large and dense populations of humans, it is near impossible to live "organically." Even if we wanted to revert back, we would need some serious scaling back of human populations. The state has to be the vehicle for change, but it needs to be tempered and closely watched to ensure it is being responsible.
>>80774501
I sometimes wonder if we'll see an ironic return to organic feudal society in the form of network communities becoming like "nations" (think of how the net was like pre-fuckerberg). It's almost in a way similar to the hierarchy of medieval farm lands.
>>80774460
I believe moving towards secularist values for the right is a good first step. With a move towards secularism, I think the new conservatives would make less value-based judgements than leftists, but also give them common grounds with the people. Without religion, this sect of the population would undergo that total reevaluation of morals, inevitably leading them to draw the same conclusions we just made (the details of course varying as the value system is molded).
So in a sense, yes, exploiting the left's emotional commitment to change in order to impose better social order I think is advisable, as long as we clearly state our purposes for approving. The public must come to evaluate decisions on a cost/benefit basis.
>>80760112
Produced good music and cinema?
Like most people over the age of 12 I don't care what people do with their personal lives.
>>80760112
Just a massive degradation of American culture into what we have today and it was all pushed in government schools. What a fucking shit show
>>80774855
I've similarly pondered this as well. It is very clear that we are more united by ideologies now than by nations, and it will only continue to become more and more that way as the internet reaches developing countries. Perhaps a mass migration of people seems more likely (liberals moving to liberal states and vice versa). It's already happening to some extent.
>>80771020
That's cause they were manlets
Jim dad helped to start the Vietnam war. How funny is that?
If course you never actually heard of the Doors being antiwar protestors.
