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Philip Hammond (likely incoming UK Foreign Secretary) says it will take at least 6 years to Brexit, longer than WW2.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/12/no-brexit-until-2022-philip-hammond-warns-eu-exit-could-take-at/

That's it, we are in forever.
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>>80733305
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>>80735594
k, keep me posted
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>>80733305
I don't think we'll ever leave.
And if we do, I'm actually more concerned that we'll be worse off now.

If we completely leave, they'll bring in more third world migrants

If we do a Switzerland or Norway, we will still have free movement to some extent, follow their laws and pay in, just no voice to say anything

What can we do? Are we fucked?
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What a complete clusterfuck.
You really failed in a spectacular way, Brits.
Quite the international embarrasssment too.
All your leaders who pushed for the exit fucked you and your country over with their angenda to get more votes with this bullshit, because they thaught that they could appeal to both sides.
Now you are worse off then before and everybody who was against the EU in Europe is rethinking their position, because of you.
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>>80737169
I'm sorry Hans. Can I claim asylum in Austria?
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>>80737723
I dont thinks so, but you should try covering yourself in brown paint and try it in Germany.
Dont forget to bring pictures of childrean and tell them about your dreams of a peaceful live.
The free wife, house, money and car should arrive after two days.
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>>80733305

[Redacted]
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>>80736603

We never did have a voice.
72 times we voted against.
72 times we were voted down.
I dont think you know how the EU works, the elected chamber is just a rubber stamping operation, it has no real power.

The EU will collapse soon anyway, its will be very bad for those still in it, and it will be bad for us too...but at least the people we elect will have the freedom to take whatever steps they wish to try and preserve the country from complete oblivion.
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>tfw the people finally realize the EU is like the Borg Collective the hard way
>Resistance is futile
>But it's too late
>It was always too late
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>one guy thinks something

Welp. Looks like its set in stone!
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>>80733305
Convinced.
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>>80733305
Implying EC would tolerate you for 6 more years.
Just initiate article 50 and be done with it.

Truth is, stalling will only get you less favourable terms
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>>80739511

>Thinking our new PM will ever take us out of the EU.

She campaigned to stay in m8.
She will find some excuse to keep us there.
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>>80739511
Their leaders are too pussy to initiate article 50,it'll never happen
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>>80739691
Actually, the only way you stay in now is if you surrender all your special privileges.
You will probably have to accept the euro and the Schengen and all the other things you so adamantly opposed.
That's the only conceivable way they let you stay. The EC will have a field day with your ass.
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>>80733305
Is that Hammond from Top Gear? And if so can we expect Jezza and May to join?
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>>80739814

We havent declared article 50 yet, it is quite possible that our PM just makes up some excuse and never declares article 50....just like 9 out 10 EU referendums in other countries.
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BREXIT MAIDAN WHEN?
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This whole conservative party leadership race was a coup against brexit. Let's have the vote and pacify the people but not give in to heir demands. Once again theestablishment stole the country at what point do we have civil war? Say what you want about BLM niggers but they at least have the balls to organise and do something.
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>>80733305
>remain voter detected
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>>80733305

This is why I don't vote. Our democracy is a total sham.
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>>80733305
Great, that means we will have you jewing around for another 6 years and then you probably won't even leave. Fucking island monkeys!
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>>80733305
>That's it, we are in forever.
tfw you realize it
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EDIT: Redacted under guidelines found in EU resolution #3648
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>>80733305
After triggering article 50 if no deal is arranged within 2 years we are out automatically unless all the other members vote to extend it by QMV which they probably will so yes we're fucked.
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>>80733305
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>>80742681

May will never trigger article 50, she is a remain'er and is busy de-selecting all Tory MPs who were for Leave.
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>>80733305

merklebots are back in force I see, has camruns rapid replacement triggered them?
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>During Brexit win
Bongs: FUUUUARRRKKKK YEAHHHHH!!!!! WE UNKEKD N SHEEEITT!
Majority of American posters: Not until you remove kebab, this is just a step
>Bongs: FUARK YOU MATR WE IZ UBKEKD YOU HAVE NIGGER NKGERIAN PREZ YOU ARE THE KEKD ONES NOW BRITTANIA RULE THE WAVES!!!!!
>Have remedial selections and vetting for new PM
>It's going to be a woman
>Merkel hasn't shown you how bad of am idea that is
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>>80739814
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/12/no-brexit-until-2022-philip-hammond-warns-eu-exit-could-take-at/

Nope, Merkel quite quickly told Juncker to stfu, that the UK hasn't left yet and that it was still possible to get us to stay, the European economy has been hurt far more by the prospect of Brexit than we have and outside of Brussels the politically influential are trying to find a way to get us to stay. If they can find a way to get the UK to stay they know it will allow them time to try and plug up the holes in their sinking ship.
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>>80733305
By 2022 a significant number of Brexiters will be dead and you will have a new generation of pro-EU Mutts.

You will probably have a pro-EU parliament who will then by vote bring in a 2nd referendum which will be successful.

Kalergi's plan will continue.
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>>80733305
6 years to find a back door in to EU. Perfect.

We can be part of EU and Marion Le Pen will still think we're cool brexiters.
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Landslide UKIP victory in 2020.
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>>80742681
My guess is article 50 won't be triggered during this political term, it will be something brought up again during the next election in 2020 or the possibility of triggering another election early (especially considering labour is in a shambles and UKIP has decided to re-structure as a progressive party), depending which way the wind is blowing the Conservatives might promise to enact Article 50 if they win or it may be that all the main parties that actually have a chance in power will agree to all campaign on scrapping the prospect of leaving the EU thereby allowing a "democratic" way of ignoring the referendum by saying the public has voted for the party based on remaining in. Winning General elections usually means you only need 30% something of the vote so would be a lot easier than having another referendum.
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>>80744144
Look at the possibly candidates for UKIP leadership, UKIP is dead, it is steaming straight towards progressive values. goingfullretard.jpg
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I hope you guys exit fast...

This shit here is going down.

I expect a EU bank fallout very soon and you guys don't want to be in that mess.

Godspeed
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>>80733305
Sooooo when do the riots start ?
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>>80733305
We absolutely cannot have it run in to a general election, because every party will offer keeping us in the EU, and then whoever wins they will claim they have a democratic mandate to ignore the referendum.
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>>80735594
Your bait is pure cancer
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May is triggering article 50 tomorrow. It is her first act as PM.
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>>80744342
The only reason UKIP is dead right now is that right now it seems they have achieved their ultimate goal. If Brexit doesn't happen before the 2020 election, UKIP will win by a landslide.
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>>80745069
I don't believe you.
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>>80745408
No, UKIP is dead from this point forward because the replacements for the party leadership position are direct opposites from why people supported them up until now. The woman who is probably going to take over has said it is time to clean house and replace all the outdated racist policies and restructure what has become a mens club.
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>>80733305
>at least 6 years to Brexit

>>80745069
>May is triggering article 50 tomorrow. It is her first act as PM.


>6 years till Brexit
I should have know better than to fall for this
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>>80745903
Doesn't matter. WHat matters is that they have always been anti-EU and always will be. My message to Theresa: trigger article 50 long before 2020, or prepare for a landslide UKIP victory, biatch.
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All they have to do is delay it 3 years. Then at the next General Election a party can run with a manifesto on ignoring the result of the referendum, and if they win, they can claim a democratic mandate for Britain to stay in the EU.
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>>80733305
>That's it, we are in forever.
2022 is not forever.

I always assumed that 2020 is the earliest. But 2022 looks more probable given the 2020 general elections.

Think about how long CETA had to be negotiated or TTIP. And BFTAT would be a lot more complicated.
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>>80744894

They won't. Britshitistan is still a cleanly divided, emergent muslim nation. It's capitol is Londonbad. And it there was another vote, and there will be. It will fail.

All the while Britainistan maintains open borders to include the wonderful family, that is ISIS and friends, in the running of their caliphate. Just have to wait six or so more years, then hold another referendum, while stalling.
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>>80745069
>May is triggering article 50 tomorrow. It is her first act as PM.
She just says that Article 50 will only be triggered when Britain is ready.
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>>80746557
What's the matter Ahmed, getting scared?
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>>80746557

This.

It is not going to be triggered. Stop kidding yourselves. Unless you start taking the heads of your officials, nothing will happen. They will stall. Then will come another referendum, because reasons.

Your only hope is that the EU collapses before that happens. It won't. Especially when it forms it's army. I was elated when the brits won. But I was kidding myself it seems. As were the brits. They are too far gone.
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ITT: salty Brexitcucks who believed they actually won
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>>80747037
Tfw getting Irish passport so I can still be a yuropeen
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>>80746315
>Then at the next General Election a party can run with a manifesto on ignoring the result of the referendum

Next general election looks like a Tory landslide unless Labour can replace Corbyn with a new Blair.
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>>80747193
Welcome aboard
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>>80746981
The tories have two options:

1. trigger article 50 long before 2020 and win the 2020 election.

2. ignore the result of the referedum and lose BIG TIME in 2020. (in this second scenario the UKIP government will trigger article 50 in 2020)
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>>80747216
Making predictions about what'll happen at the next General Election with this political situation is lunacy. Obviously if an election were called, a lot of things would happen, a lot of promises would be made, and the outcome would be utterly unpredictable. The majority pro-EU MPs aren't taking this result lying down.
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>>80747393
>and lose BIG TIME in 2020

Have you seen the state of our opposition parties?
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>>80733305
I voted now in the article and 100% agree with me.

t. only voter
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>>80747216
by 2020 british national party will rule britcucks
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If politicians won't do it dor you then it is time for violence.
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>>80747489
if the tories won't trigger article 50 before 2020, UKIP will enter the 2020 election race as the strongest British party, BY FAR. the tories know this, this is why article 50 will be triggered long before 2020.
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>>80733305
Once article 50 is triggered you automatically get kicked out after 2 years.
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>>80737169

Pro-EU shills fuck off.

Brexit going poorly is due to teh UK government having no plan, and being too cocky that it would fail.

Its still for the best.

Globalists will make an example of the UK and try and split it to keep EU faggots like you scared to leave.
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>>80739691

You missed her "brexit is brexit" speech clearly.
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>>80743244
Awesome, I did not know that. Looks like it was just EC butthurt shining through.

Either way, I still hope you exit. But it's good to know you won't get buttfucked if you stay
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>>80747453
>The majority pro-EU MPs aren't taking this result lying down.

At the same time though, the disconnect between the political class and the electorate is becoming unsustainable.
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>>80743998
Marine is much nicer. Marion has wonky eyes and seems less sophisticated.
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>>80747489
>no opposition party is going to formulate in 4 years
>a general election wouldn't force people to get their shit together and present a coherent front
Are you stupid?
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>>80733305
>This process will take two years but agreeing future treaties could take an additional four years.

wow it's literally nothing
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>>80746680
>What's the matter Ahmed, getting scared?
No, I am saying she will not trigger it in the near future. I hope she will do it this week, as this would make things interesting. If she triggered ARticle 50 right now, it would fuck up everyone in the EU immediately - that would be great.
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>>80747739
>UKIP will enter the 2020 election race as the strongest British party, BY FAR.

Unless the electorate goes into complete meltdown over this, it's unlikely. UKIP just lost it's leader and currently doesn't seem to have any clear direction.
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>>80733305
Quality referendum, Britbongs.
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>>80735594
fuck i am scared
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>>80748064
>no opposition party is going to formulate in 4 years

And just what is that viable opposition party going to be? Labour with Corbyn? Labour with a literally who Blairite? LibDems? The remains of UKIP?
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>>80747864

Because politicians always do that they say they will do r-right?
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>>80748331

>>80748331

>>80748331

Advertising thread
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>>80744169
But if the referendum was done with FPTP

Leave would have won 70% to 30%


Leave has the advantage in a general election
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>>80748196
if the tories ignore the result of the referendum, UKIP will have a VERY clear direction.
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>>80742130
>this video is brought to you by reddit com/r/funny
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>>80748616
You're right, but they'll need a replacement for Farage capable of laying into May.
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>>80748811

Gove defects to UKIP.
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>>80747925
It's sustainable for as long as people can duped into voting for it, and frankly, I think that's indefinitely. And further, no one is in touch with the electorate because the electorate is so divided against itself, and a two party system can't represent it. The disconnect is that the ignored demographics, genuine socialists and social conservatives, are demanding their voices be heard for a change. The moderates, do not forget, who are represented in Parliament, do make up a substantial amount of the electorate. Not everyone loves Corbyn or Farage. Tony Blair won three elections because he was perceived as a centrist.

>>80748393
4 years is a long time. The political crisis, however, seems to be no one has any new ideas. Corbyn is from the past, and so are UKIP, the flame bearer for Thatcher's policies and beliefs, although after Nigel they're undoubtedly turning moderate. The Blarities are, in my opinion, likely to split from Labour, and perhaps part of the Conservatives could split also, and joining the Liberal Democrats on an anti-Brexit manifesto, they could fight to victory. Literally anything could happen.
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>>80736603
>If we completely leave, they'll bring in more third world migrants

Who's "they"? The British government? Don't vote for anyone likely to do that and you'll be fine.
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>>80747804
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So this whole exit thing was a whole lot of nothing? Wew lad britcukcs, I expect nothing and I'm still disappointed
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>>80749348
>The Blarities are, in my opinion, likely to split from Labour, and perhaps part of the Conservatives could split also, and joining the Liberal Democrats on an anti-Brexit manifesto, they could fight to victory.

It's possible, but it could also split the working class vote from the middle class social democrat vote and give the Tories an advantage. Really it would depend on how effective they were at motivating butthurt Remain voters.
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>>80747393
You seem to be completely delusional, you have no idea how politics work in the UK, 52% may have voted leave but there is no way 52% would vote for UKIP even if UKIP wasn't falling apart, and with the way our voting system works most county's can only be red or blue, it takes multiple elections for them to to even come close to changing to something like an independent party.
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Who here is going to rebel if we don't leave?
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>>80735594
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>>80750347
Not me. I'm a good boy.
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>>80750347
With what? a cricket bat? Even talking about "rebelling" can land you in jail, there is no way to organize any meaningful activity that could change a policy that the government is dead set on, all that can possibly occur is peaceful protests and any form of violence or attempts to form subversive groups will end up quickly stamped out. Look at the history of British riots, our Police are very good at cracking skulls when things turn nasty.
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>>80733305
so that means at least one year before invoking the article 50
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>>80735594

wow i hate ukip now.
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>>80751328
I have superpowers m8

Where do you need me
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So what was the purpose of brexit then?

>>80751328
Try stamping out a rebellion of 100,000 people. You bongs have been betrayed and you simply refuse to fight.

What a joke
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>>80740234
Yes if she wants to lose her job and make sure her party doesn't win the next election
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>>80751781
The government Killed 300,000 people
In 1976
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>>80733305
Will there even be a UK by this point? I mean everyone is pissed off by everyone and division is high.
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>>80733305
I swear if you island shitters dont leave i personally will make sure that we send all our terrorists to you.
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>>80752076

And the Khmer Rouge killed over a Million. What's your point? You refuse to fight and you die. It's not a grand deduction of sense.

Fight or die. It applies to Americans as much as it applies to Yuros
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>>80752208

True. If the UK doesn't leave within 3 years they'll end up getting Merkel's Millions. I would wager none of them want a 4/5ths of a Euro Job like the government is making them get.
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>>80735594
Fuck you faggot nigger.
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>people actually thought the politicians would do what they wanted

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHAH
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>>80751781
>>80752352
You kind of missed an important point or two, we don't have a second amendment, we don't have weapons and even if people were to start voicing opinions of dissent against the government with the anti-terror laws they'd end up in jail after their first couple of naughty facebook/twitter posts/e-mails or text messages. There is no real way for a rebellion to ever form in this country, look at our peaceful protests in recent years over student tuition fees and shit, they end up being surrounded by police and dispersed, sporadic violent riots like those in London and other parts by dindus and anarchists lasted a few days before people who were making even joking tweets about attending these things ended up being arrested.
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>>80752352
But Cambodia was rescued by the US

It was Americas noblest war
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Then hang them.
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>>80733305
EU doesn't want it to take 6 years so I'm really sorry cUKs but you have to go. Now.
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i'm out of the loop, farrage said they should bring article 50 soon as possible, now that he's gone brexit did not count ?
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>>80748393
The SNP should stand for election in England.
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>>80755081
Farage holds no political office, what he says now doesn't matter.

The big thing he did in 2010 was force David Cameron's hand to hold a referendum in the Conservative Party manifesto.
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>>80755741
So they're trying to expand the euro deal without bringing article 50 ? what kind of referendum is that ?
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>>80733305
that is bullshit, it'll happen before the next general election.
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>>80755741
>Farage holds no political office, what he says now doesn't matter.

He's literally a Member of the European Parliament.
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>>80748012
She gets it from her kike father. Dude look like a Picasso.
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>>80760504
*addendum
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>>80760544

Yikes!
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