https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xae-jd5cHR0
ATTENTION EVERYONE
A TIGHTLY KEPT SECRET HAS BEEN EXPOSED
We do not need gasoline in our cars. Water is more efficient and clean for the environment, as well as MOTHER FUCKING FREE and for that reason is a tightly kept secret from the commoners.
The Jews have you buying up their oil because they told you to. How does that make you feel?
>>80717059
Go put water in your gas tank. Ill wait for you to see how well it works.
>>80717059
he will end up like this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuH72G5qXow
>>80717223
Faggot watch the video that's not how it works
takes too much energy to get the hydrogen out of water. gas is still cheaper
>>80717059
Wow hydrogen burns good to know
In the 90s a guy went to a tv show promising he could make a car work with water. It was a live a show and he did it.
The next day everyone was impressed and talking about it. But the media just ignored it, no one ever heard of the guy again.
>>80717454
NIGGER WATER IS FREE
These been endless of these hydrogen scams
Always fools idiots
>>80717059
>What I would like to know is (if this is true) how our top scientists haven't come up with this 50 years ago?
Why are normies so retarded?
>>80717741
but the electricity required for the reaction isn't free.
i hope this is bait, for your sake.
>>80717718
because its a scam, its always been a scam
>>80717718
Do you mean the guy who screamed "THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL ME" who was found dead the next day from "suicide"?
>>80717059
This seems like over time it'll fuck up your engine
>>80717814
NIGGER THAT DOESN'T EVEN COST MUCH COMPARED TO THE PRICE OF OIL AND PIL SYSTEMS
WHY DO YOU DEFEND JEWRY
>>80717760
/o/ here it isnt a meme but its far off from being usable in the average car.
The battery and storage tech just is not ready yet much like with Electric cars even the tesla's battery life is pretty shocking even 4-6 years for the life of a battery is considered good and the range varies greatly its not prodictable like a normal car.
>too hot
shit range
>too cold
shit range
same caviats apply to hydrogen if its a EV and for the combustion converstions its again a issue of storage and space/compactness and you cant always find water or clean enough water and it takes ages to convert.
>>80717802
Goldfish memory.
Like others have said, we've known this was possible for decades. The reason is not used is because >>80717689 hydrogen is very unstable and cars running on it would be at increased risk of catching fire or exploding.
>>80717982
The guy in the video claims only 30% of your gas is being combusted in your engine
And that if you hook your car battery up to 2 jars of water
You'll magically burn 100%, and your electrolysis machine never uses up the water...
Hydrogen is shit because you need power to produce the hydrogen
Or they mislabel certain metals as "catalysts", when in fact they are consumed to produce the hydrogen
Everyone pushing this shit is a scammer
>>80718025
The real reason is because it saves people money, and we can't have that.
If oil isn't real then what is this this oily substance on my hair?
>>80717059
stupidest shit i have ever seen.
>>80717978
It actually does.
>>80717059
This some hydrogen fuel cell stuff?
Energy from water? Cold fusion?
>>80717718
UNTIL NOW
do you work on infomercials?
>>80718360
Prove it
>pro tip: you can't
>>80717059
>Use fresh water during a water sortage
>Life on Earth is killed as every mother fucker waste precious gallons of water every time they go to the store
>>80717978
1 kg H2 will cost you around 40 kWh of energy (at 100% efficiency) to produce from water. At 0.20€/kWh it's 8€/kg. 1kg H2 ~ a gallon of gasoline.
As long as you can't cut down on electricity costs, it's not competitive to gasoline even if water is free
>>80718288
Yeah, I bet you don't like it, Shekelberg.
>>80718182
Yeah its a fucking meme
Mini fusion reactors in cars when?
>>80717059
This dude is about to be killed
They killed the last guy who made his lawn mower run on water
>>80718579
Yeah we're pretty much fucked its useless here in aus too everyone just uses gas petrol and diesel
>>80717059
Wewlad making hydrogen from electricity produced with an alternator powered by a petrol engine to power a petrol engine i'm sure that nets you a lot of hydrogen and efficiency.
>>80717814
>>80718182
>>80718597
Ok... can't you just buy a tank of hydrogen on the cheap? If safety wasn't a consideration.
>>80718852
shhhh he thinks he's smart n shit let him dream
>>80717059
Do you even know that this reaction needs electricity?
You can't hold h2 gas for long in container because h2 eats it or leaks through any small gap (molecule is very small). You have to burn h2 almost instantly so it doesn't cause problems.
Did I mention that this reaction need electricity?
It need shit loads of electricity, making it expensive. That is why it isn't used widely.
just go to /x/
>>80718715
You know what's sad? We know the higher-ups are corrupt as fuck and do shit like what you described all the time, and yet we do nothing about it.
Life goes on as they say.
>>80717391
>Volitility of water v gasoline
Youre a moron.
>>80717059
Go back to your radio show, Alex Jones.
>>80718025
Thats a simple fix.
Anti-reverse flow valve.
The problem is the volitility of water v gasoline.
>>80719158
>Im Mai 2011 betrug der Preis für ein kg Wasserstoff in Deutschland: 8,099 Eur/kg. Im November 2014 betrug der Preis für ein kg Wasserstoff in Österreich: 9,00 Euro/kg.
Wew, my estimate wasn't so much far off actual prices. These are prices you will have to pay at gas stations tho
I don't know, whether it's drastically cheaper if you put up an own plant in your garden powered by solar cells or a small wind turbine, especially considering up-front costs
>>80719158
Yes, you can.
However, how do you think they make that hydrogen?
They perform electrolysis. Meaning that electricity costs are included in the cost.
Now, there WAS research into bacterial generation of gases on trash, but it just doesn't generate enough gas.
>>80718579
Thats not how this works.
Hydogen is used and oxygen is a byproduct
Hydrogen is literally the most abundant element in the universe
I think Toyota is investing in hydrogen car research. Most other car manufactures are leaning towards electric cars instead. The problem is that if battery technology is improved it would make hydrogen fuel cells obsolete. It's easy to make the car but it would cost trillions to establish the infrastructure needed to create, transport, store and distribute the hydrogen. No one wants to invest in that.
This is assuming this idea isn't just a hydrogen fuel cell that is rechargeable with electricity. That is just an inferior type of electric car. There are already better batteries than that. Hydrogen cells take too long time to charge.
>>80718597
Solar panels with a step up transformer.
Its not the cost of energy, its the cost of technology.
>>80717059
This idea has been out for many years. I have discussed it with my father who is automotive mechanical engineer and he explanied me that this claims are not true and you end up with barely any positive effects.
>>80719576
Yes, and aluminum is the most abundant element on earth, but it's all bound up in compounds and requires you to put energy into those molecules in order to separate it.
>>80719158
Look, everytime you convert an form of energy into another, there is losses. This is how the world works, there is no 100% efficiency.
In other words, the energy you spend producing the hydrogen is lower than the energy you can return to your system.
>>80719576
>In the universe
What about here on earth? How are you gonna make the hydrogen here? :I
>>80719777
From water
>>80719629
>Hydrogen cells take too long to charge.
I don't think you really know what a hydrogen fuel cell is.
>>80719682
Good news for tin foilers.
>>80719829
That takes electric power. How are you gonna produce that electricity?
>>80719829
Water is more electronegative than hydrogen.
It isn't spontaneously going to separate. How are you going to get the energy necessary to separate it? Remember, every single step you take is going to see AT LEAST a 20% loss in efficiency.
shhhh we need to keep it running another couple dozen years
>>80719949
I meant oxygen, not water is more electronegative.
Jesus.
>>80719726
meh, by lower i mean higher.
>>80719640
Solar panels still cost you ~10 cents/kWh, so according to my calculation (>>80718597) 1kg of H2 (equivalent to approx. 1 gallon of gasoline) will cost you 4€ or $4.50 at 100% efficiency of electrolysis
>>80719937
Batteries
>>80719949
It's already been done bro.
The guy died for it. Stop jewing yourself.
>>80720065
and the power of the batteries will come from?
>>80720103
Fuel cells are nothing but high efficiency batteries.
This is a meme, man.
>>80720065
You mean metal batteries? Batteries that require metals to mined from the ground by gas powered cranes and transported by gas powered cars and refined with heat generated by gas powered furnances?
These batteries aren't magical, ruth.
>>80719565
You fucking retard hydrogen is made straight from fossil fuels not water hidrolysis
>>80719629
the swede gets it. The true innovation will better better battery storage always has been.
>>80720183
Show me the chemical mechanism, then.
Well?
>>80720135
A battery is just a chemical reaction. It generates its own power. But setting it up and producing batteries to do so requires power.
>>80718242
Or because it's dangerous and not energy efficient. But go ahead and keep making it about jews.
While you're being a tinfoil retards, there's actual Jewish tricks that are going on that are way more important than the price of oil and cars that run on water.
>>80719912
you know tin foil actual works from stopping electromagnet from penetrating it but of course it's meaningless because know ones trying to read your thoughts
>>80720160
You are defending the jews
>>80717059
Wait..wait.. wait...
OPEC is run by... Jews?!?!
(I think you left your brain in your other pants...)
>>80720252
He's right, but the problem with his process is that is still requires the mining of fossil fuels to produce, which is what the hydrogen economy claims to want to replace.
The proces is called steam reforming, here's the basic reaction
CH4 + H2O ⇌ CO + 3 H2
>>80720262
that's my point.
>But setting it up and producing batteries to do so requires power.
And the amount of work the hydrogen will deliver is lower than the amount of work you would have by just using the battery as power source to your system.
>>80720860
Well I get -THAT-.
But it doesn't get to the root of the issue.
>>80717348
Oh man, hilarious!
>>80720343
That's why you create the hydrogen on the fly rather than having a volatile tank of it.
>>80720352
That's what they want you to think.
Really makes you think.
Most car racer use distilled water injected in the piston to increase compression . he's right about increasing horsepower but it also increase heat and pressure on the motor.
The gas you pour in your motor is not burnt the octane is what the motor use as it compress the gas the octane dissipate faster thus increasing heat. Higher octane mean better compression.
70% of the gas you put in your tank is spit back octane-less from your exhaust.
What happend when you mix octane and hydrogen ? it mix together and produce a combustion rate of nearly 100% as he says ... But you don't save shit all you get is more power. If your car is equipped with all the bullshit electrical system most recent car have you will not gain any benefit because the car will revert to their base map and cancel the power gained.
>>80721365
.....Why not just hook up the energy source that's performing the electrolysis to the fucking car?
Energy in > Energy out
You will never generate more energy from generating hydrogen via electrolysis than you would hooking the battery up directly.
>>80720668
Jews are everyone that is smarter and more successful than OP. This includes Whites, Asians, many Arabs, a few blacks and some circus animals.
>>80721365
and how do you propose that we do that? Give me a legitimate scientific answer and not some generic bullshit. Please.
These types of threads remind me how scientifically illiterate /pol/ is.If you ever actually tried electrolysis you'd know how much energy it consumes and how slow it is.With a set up like that at 12v you would be lucky to get 300ml of HHO gas a minute,that's 14g of hydrogen in a minute,yeah that'll make your car do 3000000000000000 km/L.
I've tried this BS instead of just reading some disreputable BS page on the internet,i used a dry cell (more efficient than the shit he's using), used titanium electrodes, stronger electrolyte and still there was nothing noticeable.
>>80721949
DESIGNATED
>>80721949
SHITTING
>>80721949
STREETS
>>80721949
By the way, that's why Pajeets are taking over in burger IT sector.
>>80721949
>>80722051
>>80722070
>>80722121
India BTFO
>>80722051
Shooting streets?
>>80721949
Based pajeet.
One of my favorite students was an Indian kid who went on to have a promising career in chemical engineering.
>>80717059
>Driving a full size ute(or a pick up truck if you insist)
>Hurr it should drink this much petrol
Wow, what a dickhead
>>80722237
actually, that will be the olympics here anon.
>>80721949
Don't let the jealous american niggers get you down. They are fucking morons. I have to deal with them everyday. I love my brothers but god damn they are fucking dumb.
In the US everything is free--so why not energy as well!
Another good point is in the US they've been trying to sell hydrogen cells since around 1860. Energy conversion rates are all that matters. I have heard this argument so many times it racks my brain how it isn't so obvious people don't just kill themselves as soon as it leaves their lips.
>>80721365
> disagree with OP who posts Jewtube video "proving" his claim
> has been debunked by numerous 4chan posters,
> most of whom probably don't have an IQ of more than 100
> OP calls all those who call his retarded premise retarded a "Jew shill"
Great thread, OP. You sure showed us...
>>80717059
> Rudolf Clausius and Lord Kelvin are rolling their graves and laughing
>>80722550
Nobody's saying that hydrogen cells aren't an amazing way to save and transport energy.
The problem is that they do not GENERATE energy.
Hydrogen is a STORAGE MEDIUM.
>>80717059
Really makes you think.
>>80722627
But you have to convert it before you store it....
Even then why would you do that? Are you aware of just how much oil is on this earth? Why waste all that energy in conversion is my point.
>water is free
not for long
nestle WILL tap every source of water in the world
its only a matter of time
>>80722885
It's good for some purposes.
For instance, as a low-effort way to save solar energy for off-the-grid solar electricity systems during winter or during times of heavy usage.
Cheaper than deep-cycle batteries.
>>80719629
You are completely full of shit Sven. Stop posting about things you have no fucking clue about.
Also
You could've at least checked that fuel cell vehicles use hydrogen to GENERATE electricity to use for propulsion, it doesn't use electricity to make hydrogen.
Just going to drop some mumbers:
Petroleum energy density = 46.4 MJ/kg
Hydrogen energy density = 142 MK/kg
Seems good right? Hydrogen has more than 3 tunes the energy density of gasoline.
Wrong.
Petroleum density at atmospheric pressure = 800kg/m^3
X energy density gives 37120 MJ/m^3
Hydrogen density at atmospheric pressure = 0.0814kg/m^3
X energy density = 11.54 MJ/m^3.
To store the same amount of energy's worth of petroleum in the same amount of space using hydrogen you'd need to compress the hydrogen gas more than 3200 times atmospheric pressure.
Even assuming linear expansion that's over 3000bar.
To put that in perspective some of the most advanced pressure tanks have only been able to hold about 700bar. Let's not forget how much more dangerous a crash would become when you add a super compressed pressure vessel to each vehicle.
Tl;dr: hydrogen does have better energy density but you simply can't store it as easily or as safely as conventional gasoline
>>80717059
what a dumb fuck, your engine runs because of heat burning fuel creates, and you don't waste 70% because it's pouring out of the tail pipe, you're loosing the 70% on the radiator because you need to cool the engine down
>>80722974
Oceans?
Rain?
>>80717059
this is like people saying we don't need power plants because they "discovered" a galvanic cell that produces free energy by only wiring a citrus fruit. absolutely ridiculous. it's not a discussion about principle, it's a discussion about conversion efficiency.
>>80723133
you realize you're defending the jews right
>>80717850
W-what...
>>80717059
This is obviously a scam, but interestingly there is a way of getting fuel at virtually no cost. What you need is a relatively modern (but not new) car with a diesel engine. Go to street restaurants that fry lots of food. It can't be chains because they will have too strict systems. Ask them to take care of their used frying oil. The restaurants will often gladly give it away, since they will normally have to pay someone else to take care of it. Now you want to filter out all particles out of the oil. Once this is done, you can simply pour it into the tank. A modern engine will automatically compensate for the specific energy density of the current fuel to avoid knocking. Frying oil contains 70-80% of the energy as regular diesel fuel. Note that this method may decrease the lifetime of the engine, especially if there are tiny particles left in the oil, so don't do it with a new car.
>>80721949
>>80722051
>>80722070
>>80722121
These four posts pretty-much sum up /pol/.
>>80723133
Checked.
This is the fundamental problem however companies like Toyota are working to improve its transportation and storage. That can only come about by actually getting behind it and producing a vehicle for general sale to the public, which they have.
>>80723501
>virtually no cost
>except for the pumping of oil
>except for the transport of oil
>except for the filtration of oil
>except for the fact that you have to heat the fuel tank with an external heater in order to get the oil to burn
>except for the fact that it will wear down your engine over time
>except for the fact that you need to enrich the cooking oil sometimes with kerosene
>>80718182
>only 30% being combusted
That's a load of bullshit.
>what is stoichiometric ratio
>>80717059
never reproduce, you make niggers look smart
>>80718324
Their not even a real country.
>>80723310
No, I'm defending sensible engineering principles.
Hydrogen doesn't store as much energy in the space limitations and is more dangerous when you pressurise it. This has nothing to do with jews trying to suppress better alternatives to petrochemicals
>>80717059
To all who wonder what it is.
This is a simple water electrolysis tank. Electrolysis is powered by your cars battery (usually you need to install a bigger one) and some control components. Electrolysis produces a mixture gas of O and OH. This is a very well burning mixture. This gas goes to your engine air intake pipe. Some people reported tp have reduced petroleum consumption by 20% using this system. So, yes, it works, but it's not a game changer or any revolution at all. You'll end up burning a bit less fuel, and that's pretty much it.
>>80717059
These video are funny, but you pay the price later in your Youtube recommends.
>>80724083
>No, I'm defending jews
Well shit, glad we're on the same page
What I know is that we could make odler diesel engines run with anything we could find : cooking oil (even dirty), sugar cane, garbage, etc.
But the Big state doesn't want to hear any of that, because they can't tax those, so they started cracking down on people doing that with fines, and made it so that newer engines can't do it anymore.
You've all heard that we've been out of gas for some time in France thanks to commie rioting inside the raffineries. Rather than using regular diesel, you could very well use diesel intended for heaters, which never runs out because it's not in such high demand. However our 1984 state didn't forget to put some additive inside that diesel, which can be detected with the right equipment if used in a car. Since it's not subject to the same taxes, during lack of car fuel, cops were hunting down the few cars still running to test if they weren't using heater disel and fine the fuck out of them.
tl;dr : fuel is expensive because the state taxes it to oblivion, otherwise it would be cheap as fuck.
>>80723639
Well you're right. It's a huge cost for you if you're a lazy basement dweller. Then again, air isn't free either, it's a whole lot work to pump it in and out of your lungs.
>>80723186
Rain is already illegal to collect
its not hard to imagine oceans being corporate property after TPP
>>80724119
I made a typo.
It's H OH mixture.
>>80717059
We should be looking at improving nuclear power and using the cheap electricity to produce synthetic hydrocarbons to replace oil. I'm no nuclear engineer but Thorium looks like an ideal source of power, just got to convince people that nuclear isn't the boogeyman.
>>80717817
That's why you need to buy water filters from Alex Jones, it only works if you filter the water first.
The TÃœV would crucify me
>>80717223
You're a fucking idiot, clearly you don't listen well.
>>80717059
Convert your engine then, genius
>>80717223
>>80717059
that device disavows law of conservation of energy. it takes energy to split H2O molecules you can not get more energy from a system then what was put in. The petrol would have to power the car and split the H2O molecule, that device would just lower gas mileage over time.
>water is free
Burger education
>>80721676
not that guy, but i did dick around with something similar to what the guy in the OP video was doing. I never got that into it, making the dry cells and stuff, but I've seen some youtube videos of these dry cells using nothing more than a 12v draw from the battery creating quite a bit of HHO gas output. Part of the problem is upkeep of the cell, they corrode rather fast and would be a pain to maintain, the other problem would be manipulating (especially newer vehicles) the sensors in the vehicles to convince them to run on less fuel, being supplemented by the HHO gas being presented into the air intake. I never got that far into it, however there is a massive online community that makes these cells and places them on vehicles. If you go on youtube and search "HHO dry cells" you will have months worth of content to watch. Lots of these people claim gains in mileage and most of them aren't being paid anything. Given my very limited experience I think it would be possible to see a very small gain in mileage with a proper system installed in a vehicle, something like 5%. In addition to that it has been proven that these systems do completely clean up emissions of "greenhouse gases".
>>80717059
for the instance this is truth, how many years we need to waste all of our precious water resources? i bet next generation is going to drink mud
>>80718288
fuck off, schlomo bagelstein
>>80723398
Stanley Meyer died suddenly on March 20, 1998 after dining at a restaurant. His brother claimed that during a meeting with two Belgian investors in a restaurant, Meyer suddenly ran outside, saying "They poisoned me".[1] After an investigation, the Grove City police went with the Franklin County coroner report that ruled that Meyer, who had high blood pressure, died of a cerebral aneurysm.[1] Meyer's supporters continued to claim that he was assassinated in order to suppress his inventions.[1][2][12]
You'll need more than a couple mason jars for that to even work on a level enough to power a car. Even so this method of hydrogen extract is very expensive and is mostly used for laboratory purposes where pure hydrogen gas is required for research. The reason why hydrogen cars aren't a thing is due to the fact that hydrogen cell engines are much more dangerous than gas and would need to be designed to pass safety standards and that its still very fucking expensive to produce hydrogen on a scale large enough to fuel everyone's car. This is why electric hybrids and biofuels are more preferable as they're overall cheaper to implement and more easily available.
>>80725721
The point of this isn't to power a car, it's to create gas to supplement into the air intake of the engine.
>>80724442
Thorium is a meme as radioactively speaking its impotent. You need to turn it into Uranium-233 in order for it to work which is a very hazardous material.
>politically incorrect chemists
>>80725855
Trust me, if this worked well enough and was cheaper than electric or biofuel energy companies would be flaunting this. After all they'd be able to sell hydrogen fuel cells for money.
>>80726009
yes and no. Electric and biofuel companies and all that still want to make money, sometimes I am tinfoil enough to believe that a "breakthrough" like this would never be allowed, especially by the state; they are scared to death of citizens being independent, especially when it comes to energy.
I mean look at this guys ghetto ass setup, using very little power, and the gas production he is getting. It's hard for me to believe that amount of HHO gas introduced into the air intake of a vehicle wouldn't affect the performance of the vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrhBuhbn3BE
>>80717059
Hydrogen?
>Pleb-
Kinetics are memetic- also why drive when you can fly?
Riding a bike is the real redpill- name one negative aspect
>does combustion
>Pumps oxygen to environment
Bitch do you even basic chemistry?
>>80726009
They would literally be put out of business and countries would lose a reason to fight in the Middle East. Weapons companies would be BTFO.
>>80726582
>>80726501
You realize they'd be making even more money, right? Seriously have you ever taken economics courses? They're not going to just suppress a superior product that's cheaper to produce and makes more money. That's like saying that LED TVs were suppressed by the plasma TV industry because LEDs are cheaper. Energy companies can adapt their production lines they build multi-million dollar facilities to research alternative energies that they can eventually sell. Their business is energy and they have the capital to adapt to a new product to sell.
>>80726582
>- nyc- to la in 30 mins?
How do you think Kanye can be everywhere at the same time?
>>80726515
Can't take out your girl on a bike.
Can't transport your kids on a bike.
Can't travel long distances freely on a bike.
>>80726515
getting hit by people in cars
>>80726501
>It's hard for me to believe that amount of HHO gas introduced into the air intake of a vehicle wouldn't affect the performance of the vehicle.
Easy if you haven't had any background in chemistry. Hydrogen production costs a shitload of money, about 3 times as much as natural gas to produce. You know what electric companies will love these idiots as they're using a lot of electricity to produce a little bit of hydrogen.
>>80719158
Nigger, you have no idea how dangerous a tank of hydrogen gas is.
t. industrial chemist
>>80726945
>have you ever taken economics courses?
That's sort of my point. The biggest buyer at the state level gets to make the rules. Right now this product would not make more money as it could potentially be a 1 time install and then suppress gasoline usage. Energy companies are not in the business to have their customers be purchasing less energy.
>>80727199
that guy wasn't using a lot of energy, and he wasn't producing hydrogen, he was producing HHO.
>>80726945
You're a faggot they can't go in and get oil if water is free
>>80719682
Came here to say this
Energy required to separate some compounds can be tremendous
>>80727295
This is stupid seeing that LED tvs are cheaper than Plasmas yet all TV companies have swapped over to LEDs. You know why? Its fucking cheaper to produce LED TVs than plasma and thus the revenue actually increases. That's my point but hey believe that energy companies aren't focusing on alternative energies when oil is becoming harder to easily extract.
>>80727478
Electricity isn't free you dumbass
>>80727419
I can guarantee you the amount of hydrogen he's producing does jack shit
>>80726515
Telling your parents that you're gay
>>80723650
It has to be near stoichiometric to ignite, but if combustion isn't complete by the time the exhaust stroke happens you'll get unburned gas going out the tailpipe. Probably not even close to 70% of it I would imagine, but I don't know.
>>80717978
Hydrogen isn't an energy source dummy, it's energy STORAGE! Only hydrogen derived from fossil fuels is a net energy source.
Everything else is basically like a battery.
Problem is gas is hard to store and transport compared to liquid. The methanol economy is based on transforming CO2 to CO combining with hydrogen to form methanol which is a liquid fuel.
THAT would be a practical energy storage fuel for vehicles.
>>80718242
>saves people money
There is nothing stopping you from generating your own hydrogen and converting your car to run on it. Go ahead and do it. No oil company men in black will stop you.
It's simple technology, just not easy to store the gas safely with enough density to compare to gasoline mileage per tank.
TFW as a petroleum engineer, I have wasted my life when people could just use water.
>>80717689
Too soon m8
>>80724317
>Rain is already illegal to collect
Fucking hell, that's some serious """"Freedom"""" right there
