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What the fuck happened to the left? It used to be about eschewing
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What the fuck happened to the left? It used to be about eschewing things like race and religion to unite against the ruling class. Now leftists seem to be the ones making everything about race and further dividing people. Marx would be ashamed if he saw rich bourgeoisie liberals championing Islam.
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>>80651026

The left has always been the middle upper class idealistic political tool.

Marx was a rich slob, like Engels, Lenin, Trotsky and all the 1918 German revolution Leaders.

The left never changed. It's the rotten expression of those social classes completely detached from reality like the middle upper classes and the public administration. The left and its forced progressivism should be annihilated.
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>>80651682
t. slav
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>>80651784

t. vpn
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>>80651026
Marxism isn't liberalism. As for your question; the SJWS want something to fight for. Some SJWS chose race even though racial problem have been solved for the most part. Because if this, SJWS tried to make everything about race so they have more to fight for.
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>>80651026
Yes goyim, the faceless international proletariat is what we believe in!
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>>80651026
(((marx)))
marxism is simply a tool kikes use to grab control by selling stupid goyem a pipedream of equality.
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>>80651682
>Marx
>rich
wew lad
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>>80652652

He never worked in his life.
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>>80652652
He was, his background was thoroughly upper-middle class. Engels too. Very bourgeois, ironically.
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>>80652827
>>80652844
He was born into relatively easy circumstances but lived his adult life in the slums of London.
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>>80652517
>I've never read a book in my life but I'll call someone a goy and use a meme image to prove my point
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>>80653090

i. e. he was born rich enough to never have to get a proper job in all his life. Remember this was an incredible privilege in the nineteenth century.

I repeat, Marx was a rich slob who never had to work. Completely detached from reality.
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>>80651026
>What the fuck happened to the left?
the collapse of USSR and collapse of leftwing economic arguments. the left was infiltrated by/drifted towards liberal centerists. focus then became the bourgeoisie and the bullshit they worry about rather than issues of class.
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This is something I've spent much time thinking about recently.

In my opinion the modern left is defined by two factors: 1) its belief in historical determinism (inherited from Marx, Hegel, Darwin) and the movement's own place therein and 2) cultural relativism.

The first has Modern leftists saying things like "the wrong side of history" and "its current year". They feel that history is a determined march in the direction they want--and like evolution it cannot be reversed and it is inevitable. The belief in this inevitability can be dangerous--think of the most radical leftists as enraptured by the dialectic as a Muslim suicide bomber. Lives can be sacrificed to some. Although Left has lost much of its edge over the past century. After May 68, the Left has been largely docile--as a violent approach failed. What of note has the Far Left done since?

And as they've softened, the commitment to Marxist economics (for the Proletariat!) that previously defined them has faded. Lets be honest, the Post-War Years were very good to the West and people's standards of living have greatly increased. In its place is of course Cultural Relativism. Cultural Relativism has effectively removed a sense of self-pride from the Left, and the institutions they control. O the days of Manifest Destiny are long gone! Rather than create, build, improve their own society--Leftists spend their energies decrying the evils of imperialism, slavery, genocide. They are committing self-flagellation for acts transpired generations before their time! Its madness! Its a culture that doesn't believe in its own will to power, and that is why it has grown weak. Modern Leftists are now left with political coalitions with no interests in the likes of Marx--these largely minority based coalitions have unfortunately been bought with ineffectual Welfare dollars.

So we are left with paradoxically a Modern Left defined by its own inevitability that doesn't believe in its Will to Power.
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Marxism

It was always Marxism.

Keep in mind it is not exclusive to economic inequity.
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>>80651026

The fact that (((Marxism))) was a total failure both theoritically and practically forced leftist jewish intelectuals to expand the basic idea of historical materialism to other realm such as culture and race and abandon pure economic determinism
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>>80654582

Please don't call Marxian politics 'economics'. It's an insult to pure economics. Marxian 'economics' are all idealistic bs with no basis, not even a proper model.
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>>80654974
if i had been speaking aloud there would've been audible derision
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>>80653268
I've read Das Kapital, The Condition of the Working Class in England and The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State, simmer down, know your enemy.
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>>80655353

Provide me Marxian macro/micro models and I'll change my mind. Until then, it's bs to me.
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>>80655480
You misread my comment, I agree with you.

https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Economic%20Calculation%20in%20the%20Socialist%20Commonwealth_Vol_2_3.pdf
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>>80651682

"There was hardly any other German city in which the social problem could be studied better than in Vienna. But here I must utter a warning against the illusion that this problem can be 'studied' from above downwards. The man who has never been in the clutches of that crushing viper can never know what its poison is. An attempt to study it in any other way will result only in superficial talk and sentimental delusions. Both are harmful. The first because it can never go to the root of the question, the second because it evades the question entirely. I do not know which is the more nefarious: to ignore social distress, as do the majority of those who have been favoured by fortune and those who have risen in the social scale through their own routine labour, or the equally supercilious and often tactless but always genteel condescension displayed by people who make a fad of being charitable and who plume themselves on 'sympathising with the people.' Of course such persons sin more than they can imagine from lack of instinctive understanding. And thus they are astonished to find that the 'social conscience' on which they pride themselves never produces any results"
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>>80651026
good thread

>>80651682
>>80653584
>>80652827
>taking /pol/ infographic memes seriously

>>80654535
this

there is no more economic talks among many left gatherings i go to visit. it is just current hot topics, such as among many you already know, "issues of gentrification"... i go visit them less now days... before all this shit few years back talks were about Trotskyism, BR, etc. now i hear about gender equality, and some batshit crazy people saying that motherly instincts are construct... still the group didn't shifted that far.

the last good talk happened recently due to labor reforms in paris and massive strikes.
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>>80653268
Sorry goyim, if you still think socialism is anything but a tool of control you are still a goy.
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and what /pol/ always forgets is that normies are scared as much from hardline leftwingers as they are from rightwingers

germany freaked out nowdays when old RAF members started robbing the banks again.
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