>religiontards claim religion is necessary for people not killing and robbing each other
>Japan and Iceland, the least religious countries on this planet, have lower crime rates than all christian nations
wew
>>80628262
They are religious to the bone.
>>80628262
japan is pretty criminal though
>>80628351
iceland is the most atheistic country in the world.
>>80628262
You burned that strawman greatly fedora. What other ones you got from your echo chambers?
>>80628262
Give some other organized effort to make people moral and I'll agree with you.
>>80628477
They have a state church which hold an incredible amount of power in the government, their flag is a cross, and if you walk around reykjavik you'll see large beautiful churches on every block.
>Japan
>Not religious
Japan is deeply religious just not in the traditional way. Shintoism is just appreciating everything around you and occasional shrine visits.
Japan and Iceland also happen to be extremely isolated, especially so in the case of Iceland.
Purely coincidental, right?
0/10 I replied but Im also at work being paid so you still lose.
>>80628262
>christian nations have high crime rates because of the drug trade
>Denmark, a very atheist country, has major child porn problems
>>> r/atheism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinto
>Shinto is the largest religion in Japan, practiced by nearly 80% of the population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland#Religion
>Around 84% of them are christian
Secularism =/= Irreligious
>>80628262
>>80628262
>atheistards claim religion is responsible for people killing and robbing each other
>Stalin and Mao existed
>>80628262
>>80628262
I once toured a Japanese prison near the US naval base there. It was...very clean....very quiet...and there was a big compound where we weren't allowed to go, that was topped with broken glass. "Oh, that's for people awaiting trial".
The Japanese have a looong tradition of brutal law enforcement, as I'm sure you're already aware.
But as for religion vis-a-vis low crime rates; religion is simply the principle by which people establish their morality. I'm actually very interested in where so-called atheists get their moral foundations.
>>80628696
The population is almost entirely atheist.
also Shinto religion in japan is purely superstition-based and it hold no moral or ethic values.
Pro tip: crime is directly correlated to the number of niggers and spics
>>80629001
>I'm actually very interested in where so-called atheists get their moral foundations.
Same as anyone else, through good raising and a healthy environment?
Religion is indeed a great element to keep cohesion among the population, but to say it's needed for moral foundation it's just wrong.
>Atheists really think these countries aren't religious
Stop embarassing us. Unless you understand Atheistic philosophy stop trying to make these cringey, reddit tier arguments because you personally dislike religious people.
>>80628720
Shintoism is just the Japanese version of animism and most Japanese people today don't actively practice it.
>>80628784
This. Japan and Iceland are among the world's most secular countries, but they are not the world's most atheistic countries.
>>80628872
They didn't kill for atheism (There is nothing in atheism that tells you to go kills "infidels"). They killed because they were paranoid cunts.
>>80629001
we get it the same place you do, parents, peers and exposure to the world (media, internet)
the only difference is we later use our own reasoning and logic to change these beliefs/morals as we mature. Atheists who had atheist parents do the same except they start without a handicap.
>>80629441
Which philosophy? It is literally not believing in gods. There is nothing else.
>>80629107
Stop the self loathing, Juan.
>>80629062
You apparently don't know much of shintoism nor zen buddhism.
>>80628262
People too dumb to figure morality out for themselves need religion. For instance whites.
>>80629587
Maybe they killed because there is nothing in atheism telling them not to.
>>80629062
Holy fuck are you trying to be Australia lite? You didn't even attempt to address to points made, you just ignored them and moved on to your rhetoric.
If they are almost entirely atheistic then why do they bother to have a state church that holds an incredible amount of power in government if only a small minority of the population are members of it?
The flag, architecture, traditions, and history being 100% undoubtedly based on and formed by Christian principles directly counter the statement that it's the most atheistic country in the world. Their culture could change to majority atheism someday, but they are not close to that right now.
It also counters fedora's implications that atheistic societies can have peace, prosperity, and moral foundations on their own when the very example given only gives more strength to Christianity being the foundation that leads to these things instead.
>>80630170
Again, atheism is not a philosophy of life. You have to select one. Besides, there is a natural instinct not to kill. These people had fucked up childhoods and became crazy as a result.
>>80628262
Guess why they have lower crime rates?
Homogeneity
>>80629680
culture does not degrade based on an intuitive sense that deities do not manifest themselves to us. once you realize this (quaint) nugget of knowledge you'd see that there's much more to it's underlying philosophy. foundational, even.
>>80628262
>religiontards claim religion is necessary for people not killing and robbing each other
Strawman argument
>>80629001
>I'm actually very interested in where so-called atheists get their moral foundations.
Kant solved this 230 years ago
it's called the categorical imperative
>>80630734
Wait... i am atheist. What are you?
>>80629440
>>80629659
Circular reasoning 101 guys.
>Parents raising their kids
And where do they get THEIR foundation? Their parents. Where do THOSE parents get it? Both of you included this in your answers and this answer is literally worthless.
>environment, media, internet
Gee, and it's not like these things can vary at all in tremendously irreconcilable ways. If your moral foundation is the environment in downtown chicago, philadelphia, the jew-owned media, and websites like salon, jezebel then this 'foundation' will tell them that imprisoning and discriminating against straight while males is okay because they are oppressors. It's relative. A FOUNDATION can't be that relative if it is going to peacefully coexist with other foundations.
>>80629587
>>80628262
I'm an atheist too, but this is a stupid argument. Correlation=/=causality. Japan was about as religious during the second World War, when they were raping and killing Chinks, as they are now.
>>80630945
>Believing in the categorical imperative.
>Not believing in utilitarianism.
Huesil, please
>>80630559
Athiesm is firmly rooted in the belief that there is no higher power.
It is not synonymous with science, it's a teligion in itself.
>>80628262
wtf I hate church now.....................
Can anyone argue with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgHoyTvyh4o
Thought not.
>>80631271
utilitarianism gives way to the blasé behavior that plagues urban civilization
you should know it as I do because we live in third world shithole countries were we can pass a body on the street on our way to work and not give a single shit about it
>>80631106
>Where do THOSE parents get it?
From the culture/society/people/environment they were raised in?
>>80631106
>A FOUNDATION can't be that relative if it is going to peacefully coexist with other foundations.
So islam telling its followers to behead infidels is not a foundation because it's too different from what you believe?
Let's say you were right, then why is that the americas are so damn violent, with a higher murder rate than fucking africa, if we are so religious? My country is 95% christian, do you think it's even remotely peaceful?
>>80631223
>Adding ideas to your philosophy makes the ideas inherently bad.
>1.Be vegan.
>2.Kill thousands of people in the name of veganism, even though veganism is literally not eating animal products and doesn't command you to kill people.
>?
>4.Profit
Great picture (And logic), burger.
>>80631595
Dawkins literally doesn't know the Bible. He is talking out of his ass. Bring kind to animals isn't in the Bible? God said told humans to take care and be stewards of the earth.and there are plenty examples of strong women in the Bible.
>>80631349
Atheism is literally lack of belief. Logic supports lack of belief if the belief lacks evidence. You only have a problem with this when it comes to religion.
I didn't say it was science, did i? Research the meaning of religion, burgerfat.
>>80631595
Reason will prevail!: The meme
He never posits any kind of morality, does he?
>>80629001
Religious moral code came from what humanity was already doing, not the other way around. Early humans mostly 'loved their neighbour' because they were more likely to survive if they worked together rather than fighting everyone they came across. Organised religion just codified in writing practices that were already prevalent.
Why are Americans so stupid.
>>80631972
"Strong women" is different to "women with rights", isn't it? God killed thousands, when he could just... you know... use his infinite powers to find another way.
>>80631595
>implying the progression of morality didn't happen in the context of the church.
Why is Dawkin's so fedora?
>>80628262
>Japan
>Not religious
you don't understand Japan. They are very religious but their religion is Zen Buddhism, usually. That means their religion doesn't interfere with their day-to-day life like the self-chastising Muslims, Jews, or Christians.
>>80631106
Your moral foundation comes from a book that tells ppl to kill their neighbors if they're wearing two different types of cloth. So yeah...
>>80631608
Those are not utilitarians, they are ignorant cunts. Utilitarians realize that if society is o.k. they will benefit much more.
>>80632273
What's the other way? God only killed people who were so beyond saving and as mercy for others.
>>80632385
Can you list when someone was killed for wearing two separate cloths?
Daily reminder that this is what theists actually believe.
>>80632222
>Why are Americans so stupid.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
>>80632425
>Beyond saving.
Omnipotent: (Of a deity) having unlimited power:
It is nice that you admit that God is just a weak ass cunt, like all of us.
>>80629486
Christianity is growing fast in Japan and China.
>>80632777
Haha you didn't list another way.
>>80632555
I can list you when someone was killed for being an heretic or an infidel.
>>80628262
Maybe that's because irreligious people tend to be more educated. Both these countries have high rankings on tops regarding education and quality of life.
>>80630345
State church, churches or the flag mean nothing.
>>80632888
List them, then. And I'll explain why it was justified.
Fact: You can't be religious and still call yourself 'red-pilled'.
>>80632880
I am not omnipotent. Nevertheless, let's imagine that he ... idk ... talked to the egiptians instead of the jews, or teleport the jews out of Egypt, or freeze the egiptians for a little bit, or make the jews fly, or....
>>80632954
This. I went to a church in Alabama and half the white ppl there couldn't spell antitheist.
>I don't understand their Japanese religion so they don't have a religion and thus can be used as examples to push my narrative
>Except Japan needs more immigrants
Wew
>>80629486
Ok, keep lying to yourself when someone showed you it's clearly otherwise. LOL
Hey guys, I found the atheists' paradise!
>>80632555
Can you list proof of G-d?
>>80633130
>red-pilled
kek I didn't know that the rednecks are that stupid
>>80633093
So you want God to do magic tricks? And He did talk to the Egyptians.
>>80633052
The albigensian crusade, justified by the catholic church. Including the Pope (Supposedly God's representative on earth).
>>80633254
Just from miracles my family has experienced. And legitimate miracles, not "OMG it's a miracle I found my car keys" shit
>>80628262
yes but religion prevents women from masturbating their robotic sons. :^)
Hmmmm I wonder why you guys are so opposed to religion or what I have to say
>>80633407
I'm not Catholic, and it's a stretch to think Catholics even follow the Bible. They are almost as bad as Muslims when it comes to blind obedience to the church.
>>80633254
I have some articles and videos and also I can give you the name of a Rabbi whos specialty is in proving God. (You can type God) but it has to be worth my time to post it.
>>80633254
meme magic
>>80633314
>Separating the ocean is not a magic trick.
No egyptians get killed by my ways, and less suffering for the jews. but o.k.
But japanese are a religious bunch
They have this religious devotion to things like the will of fire from konoha, the power of friendship, the power of love, the heart of courage that can accomplish everything
And if they're about to lose something then this hidden powet is unleashed through some ancient energy based demon or rage and they get all fucked up after they won and learn that victory by hate and rage is bad
Religion m8
>>80633741
Quick question, do you support abortion?
>Japan
>not religious
whatever you say , they believe in shit like fortune telling with blood type, I've been there and religion is so enterwined in their daily life its practically a state religion
>>80633675
>Rabbi
>>80633667
>The complete destruction of the Canaanites. I thought genocide is a crime.
>>80632022
>Logic supports lack of belief if the belief lacks evidence
Proof?
>>80633799
Boobs change a man to the beast.
>>80628262
ITT: OP doesn't know the difference between Secularism and Atheism.
>>80628262
Japan and Iceland are mono-ethnic and mono-cultural as fuck.
>>80634004
The Canaanites were so evil and far from saving, so God did what He had to do
>>80628262
http://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-3.htm
3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.
>>80634007
>Are you implying that if i tell you something without evidence you would believe?
Also, your own need of proof is a proof, i hope do you realize that, my burger friend.
>>80633977
>Quick question, does going for another subject is a thing you usually do?
>>80634621
I want to know, because I'm sure you have conditions where you support killing others.
>>80628262
>christianity
>religion of peace
>>80634464
So your logical proof is an appeal to emotion?
>>80634247
>Why were they so evil?
>Even children are evil?
>God can't save them, God is unable to do something, ergo God is weak.
God is a cunt, the germans and the japanese did worse things than the canaanites ever did, and God didn't do shit. Ergo, god is hypocritical.
>Genocide is good when a very powerful being does it.
Funny that atheists are supposedly the amoral ones
>>80628499
i dont think you understand what a strawman is
>>80628262
Why can't Eurofags understand that fewer niggers = less crime when they use these nations as shining examples of being low-crime? Stop being in denial, for shit's sake.
>>80635121
Two nukes weren't enough for you?
And anyway what is your evidential basis for "genocide is bad?" Are you aware that's been programmed into you?
>>80635121
You know those videos of torture that pop up on 4chan? Well, picture that was the norm in Canaan, and child sacrifice was rampant. And no, the children weren't evil, but it would be cruel to kill their parents and leave the kids deserted. God killed them quickly and painlessly. Just like falling asleep
>>80635079
You require proof for a claim i said. The thing i said is that logic (I hope you know what logic is) makes us require proof of other claims. I don't understand how are you unable to see the connection, americanon.
>>80629587
What about Hitler who killed 400,000 Jews?
>>80628262
AYO HOL UP!!!!!!
>>80628262
>Two homogeneous countries with minimal niggers
>Low crime rates
Who'd have thunk? Regale us with more of your specious reasoning "Fritz", tell us about how the Muslims are good for Europe. Tell us how DB isn't going to collapse and Germany isn't going to experience it's 4th huge recession within a century, I could do with a laugh.
>>80635626
>It would be cruel to kill their parents, i will just kill them instead.
>Painlessly. Killing them by the sword.
Also, you need to read more about axis crimes if you think they didn't do worse shit.
>>80628262
> Japan and Iceland are both island nations and both have low crime rates
> therefore all island nations have low crime rate
This is literally your logic
>>80635871
You say atheists lack belief, yet we have to believe in you.
Constantly.
>>80635871
It's clear you support abortion, so I don't know why you would be so adamantly against killing kids, and God didn't torture people, he would kill them as quickly as possible.
>>80636157
>he would kill them as quickly as possible.
Moses.
Egypt.
Yeah, he kinda twisted the knife there.
Slowly.
>>80634775
>I am not God ("Omnibenevolent" my ass)
>God can do whatever he wants to, yet he doesn't. If a person did that (Having the chance to save someone yet not acting on it), you would call him evil.
Believers are literally hypocrites, but whatever, amerifat.
>>80636108
>Atheists* lack belief, OTHER persons* have to believe in them. o.k....
Did that sound logical on your mind, my american pal?
>>80628262
>2016, people still need a fairytale that explains simple rules of society
>>80636850
Sounds like atheists have to have a lot of belief in humanity.
Since when have humans been logical?
>>80636157
It is clear to me that you haven't read your holy book if you believe that God (e.g. drowning is not a painless way to die) killed everyone as quickly as possible.
Go read it, then come back to discuss.
>>80628262
I've been to japan, it's incredibly religious. There are shinto shrines everywhere and people go and pray after work and shit.
Dumb cunt
>>80630170
It's called common sense you christfag
>>80637277
Are you talking about the flood? Hardly torture. It's not like God held people down and picked them out of the water and back down again. And once again, you keep dodging the abortion point. You're the hypocrite.
>>80636357
Explain
The fact is that every religion is made up and many (especially judeo christian ones, ie christianity, islam, judaism) are the root cause for many of the world's problems right now is the red pill /pol/ stubbornly refuses to swallow.
>>80637499
Common sense is relative.
>>80637067
Atheism is only the lack of belief in Gods, it doesn't make any other claim, it doesn't say that humanity is inherently logical, it doesn't say that it believes that humanity is good, etc.
>Logic: Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity. Also, something that you lack.
You sad burger, i feel bad for you.
>>80632959
It means that a country has been christian for more than 500 years and atheist for like 2 generations at best. All atheists can do is jerking off with other people dick, fantasizing they made successful civilization work from zero.
>>80637430
its philosophy and meditation not religion and praying, learn the difference religioncuck
>>80637592
>Torture: The action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something.
You christians are monsters. This way of thinking is what led to the crusades and genocides.
Before answering your abortion question, i want you to tell me, what makes a human a human.
>>80637786
>finland
>calling other people cuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6kjvWKuVkE
>>80638041
A human? Here you go https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human.
Very hypocritical for you to judge Christians but you support the same things.
>>80638041
>You christians are monsters
What a hysterical faggot you are. Do you say that to your abuela while she is making your tacos?
Who even gives a shit. As long as it isn't Islam, it's fine.
Also,
>1 post by this ID
>>80638383
I know what a human is from the scientific point of view. You religious people believe that it begins at the moment of conception, a bunch of cells that is literally no different from something that could be made in a laboratory.
What makes it different, you imbecile burger?
>>80638566
>Not giving an argument.
Well done Brasil, how is your country doing? Are you prepared for the Olympics?
Can you grow a baby in a lab with "just a bunch of cells"? Also, you're a bunch of cells too, why your life worth so much? You're not even intelligent enough to make contributions to society.
>>80628262
You're right. It's homogeneous communities that lower crime, not religion
>>80628262
The semetic religions are the ultimate social control mechanism.
>>80639041
Yo can, actually.
Also did you know most of the cells on our body aren't even our own? They're mostly bacteria.
>>80638746
So what's your limit to killing an unborn being? How old does it have to be to be truly human? I know one atheist who believes in killing small children since they aren't old enough to be truly important to some people.
>>80639041
Yes, we can recreate the first steps of embryo development. You might be surprised at what modern science can do.
A bunch of cells with an advanced neuronal system, unlike you or embryos (For the first months).
>>80638938
Foreigners who will come to Brazil are all white liberals or "family men" who like to get fucked by big dick trannies. I just can't give a shit if we are prepared for Olympics or not.
>>80639311
Checked, and who would that be?
This atheist that wants to commit infanticide?
Who dat?
>>80629001
You don't have to believe in a dead jew on a stick in the sky to have empathy and understand things tend to go better when you treat others as you would be treated.
>>80631693
lol, you just got called out for circular logic and then resort to it again.
>where do the parents get their morality without using infinite recursion
>well they obviously get it from this infinite recursion with no end point
>>80631106
To answer your question, I think that morality itself is very logical and provable with Philosophy. The only true morality is ultilitarianism. It is important for every person to know that they themselves are not a good judge of utility though as they have their own implicit biases.
>>80639311
Probably somewhere around the time it develops a nervous system, and even then it won't really matter much since it's not even self-conscious and abortion should be legal in any case.
Or would you rather have one of those retard pepe babies that are posted here all the time? It's even more cruel to keep them alive and suffering even if they're not even aware of it.
>Yes, we can recreate the first steps of embryo development.
Then the answerer is no, you can't. Thank you for proving I'm right.
Look, ants don't have a moral compass either and don't commit crimes!
>>80628262
Its a race thing, not religion.
>>80639311
>I know a cunt that happens to be atheist, therefore all atheists are cunts.
Nice logic.
Until you develop a neuronal system, the brain make us what we are. You can lose your arms, your legs, your torso (Let's imagine that we kept your head alive) and you would still be human.
It is what differentiate us from cancer cells or vanishing siblings.
>>80639719
Define cruel, what is cruel if there is not good and evil.
>>80639545
Every religion on Earth has some form of The Golden Rule.
That's the one edict against killing each other based on beliefs.
Literally everything else in all of the scriptures is based around everyone killing each other based on beliefs.
The golden rule first for sure
>treat everyone how you would like to be treated.
Great, everything else is if you don't believe the same thing they do, KILL THEM!
Organized religion in a nutshell. What a fucked up trip.
>>80628262
>>80628477
>Icelanders
>irreligious
They literally believe in elf fairy tales and they even blocked the construction of an highway because it would have disrupted their home.
>>80639507
An ex friend?
>>80639719
Would you go up to someone with birth defects and tell them they should have been aborted?
>>80639905
I never said all atheists believe this, but an atheist can't tell him he's wrong, though.
>>80639426
Why did you answer a rhetorical question?
>>80640257
I just did, you halfwit. And using a logical/utilitarian/objective system, unlike your deontological one.
>>80639905
>>80639734
Don't get me started on those bastard ants. They be breaking and entering into my house. biting me and running off with my bread crumbs. Little sods wouldn't obey the rules if they were smart enough to read.
>>80628477
>>80640071
they also are one of the highest anti-depressant taking countries on earth. I think it is over 50%.
>>80639905
Bla, bla, bla. What makes humans humans are not stages but essence (and that is not defined by science because science is just a method, and reality is not a slave of a method), if you're allowed to kill human essence, what is so wrong about theft and all other crimes against human dignity? There is nothing wrong about them.
>>80640084
Probably not unless its my business or they ask me directly. I do believe we need to control our own population somehow. Overpopulation is one of the biggest issues with mankind right now but every idiot is busy argueing about wether gays should marry or what shit politician you should waste your time voting for.
People around the world aren't educated enough on things that really matter.
>>80639728
>I read a text and then interpret it in any way i want.
Wait, that's christians favourite hobbie.
>>80640485
You actually didn't say what is wrong with killing a baby.
>>80639908
Utilitarianism. Go read it. Better than your deontological shit.l
>>80631693
>My country is 95% christian, do you think it's even remotely peaceful?
Aren't spics Catholic? Isn't your religion the one where you can confess your sins then go back to slaughtering people over cocaine and money?
>>80640695
>overpopulation
Abortion isn't going to solve that.
>>80640836
>Utilitarianism
Cheap pseudo-philosophy for shallow minded people like you. Read Eric Voegelin.
>>80640790
Are you the kind of people that's all pro-life about babies but is also alright with the people controling you and your country sending thousands of young people to fight in wars for your master's benefits under the indoctrination of "muh freedom"?
>>80641193
Nope, I hate war. I don't support the draft either
>>80640591
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Essence, objective? Hahahahahahahahah, whatever you say.
>>80635121
>germans and the japanese did worse things than the canaanites ever did, and God didn't do shit.
Atheist here, to play the devil's advocate, I'd say that God doesn't always manifest as a supernatural force. Perhaps the situation with Germany today is due to God's justice, and Japan being hit with 2 nukes, plus horrid earthquakes that destroyed their reactors and leaked horrible radiation into their waters is as well.
>>80641193
But you're controlled by your effeminate lefty university teacher.
>>80628262
Japan and Iceland have no blacks as well. Without religion, society will fall to degeneracy and abortions, gay sex, and murder will happen daily by godless moraless degenerates.
>>80628262
Those countries were influenced by Christian morality
Wester morals are based on Christian morals
>>80640790
Because it goes against society's well-being. Unlike you, it is wrong because it says so in my book.
>>80641360
Essence has nothing to do with objectivity because REALITY has nothing to do with objectivity. People who thirstily seek for objectivism are no different than porn addict little boys.
>>80640501
nice odin m8 ;)
>>80630559
>Besides, there is a natural instinct not to kill.
People have been massacring each other since the beginning of time
>>80641572
I wish I was religious so I could teach stupid fundamentalist shit and kill people in the name of god.
Stop being an indoctrinated idiot and realize you don't need religion to be a good person.
>>80641722
There are plenty of babies to populate the earth, so what's the problem with killing a few babies?
>>80628262
Japan and Iceland also have the lowest amount of blacks.
I don't think it's a religious thing.
>>80641722
Ok, now tell me why society's well-being is important?
>99% of the population of japan has squinty eyes and their crime rate is low therefore squinty eyes cause crime rates to drop
>>80641722
>against society's well-being
That is completely arbitrary
>>80628262
>Japan and Iceland have lower crime rates than most other nations
I'll take ethnic homogeneity and its correlation to violent crime for $400 please Alex.
>>80641922
>debating funDIEs on the internet
truly euphoric
>>80628262
Don't they also have minuscule amounts of niggers, shiskins, spics, and other filth?
>>80641922
YOU may think you're good, but there are plenty of awful people who need Jesus because they are selfish.
>>80642085
You're right. It's a waste of time and thanks to those fedora faggots saying you're an atheist now turns into *tipping* memes.
>>80641132
>Eric Voegelin.
Average writer and shitty philosopher. Go read Adam Smith, Nietzsche, and re-read Mill. You clearly didn't understand him
>>80642054
You might actually be onto something here...
>>80629062
Brazil wtf do you know about other countries?
>>80641922
Why not you start by killing yourself. Dumbass atheists like you think that you can be a good person without god, that's a lie. Atheists are more likely to be a fag/dyke, commit abortions and adultery, steal, murder, lie, and cheat. It's because atheists believe in hedonistic live and let live that has no morals that religion founded.
>>80641922
>I wish I was religious so I could teach stupid fundamentalist shit and kill people in the name of god.
You have this deeply psychopathic wishes, yet, you think you're a good person who don't need God. What ever >>80641572 did, he said the right set of words to make you show the demon inside you, like a real exorcist.
>>80641867
Because they dehumanize each other, burgerfat. Killing somebody without doing that leaves mental scars. There is a lot of data about this subject, go look for it.
>>80641942
I don't think you are able to understand philosophy, please never get a position of power. I don't want another inquisition
>>80633518
>Dear Jebus pls make thing happen
>Nothing happens
>Guess da answer was no
>Something happens
>Dog bless
"""miracles"""
>>80628351
They are all athiests
>>80628262
This. I fucking hate all religious people. I hate them all. They are the reason science is not advanced at all compared to how long we have been alive as a species. I am a huge star trek fan, I love the show and even have some toys that I sometimes with (more just imagined I was the characters not really little kid playing), I would give anything to live in that world and religious dumbasses took that away from me by living in their fantasy world in stead of believing in science. They also held back LGBT rights and all /pol/ memes aside is one of the most important issues within hundred years.
>>80628432
Don't you dare fucking say that about Japan. I've been to Japan twice and each time I have experienced nothing but comfort and safety. Despite all the memes the Japanese are not 1/10 as xenophobic as whites and accepted me , they treated me like a best friend. I made friends with the taxi drivers, the waiters, and the hotel clerk within a few seconds despite having high functioning autism. I'm not ethnically Japanese but I'm spiritually Japanese and I can tell you they are not criminal at all.
>>80642427
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>80642708
Way to make shit up
>>80642696
Nice retort. Didn't address my point.
>>80628262
I've never heard any religious person claim this ever. I've only ever heard anti-theist edge lords claim that religious people claim this and I hang out with Mormons.
>>80628477
Iceland is infested with feminists. They banned porn because it 'objectifies women' or some shit.
>>80642853
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
>>80628262
Religion isn't necessary--morals are. Now I know as a German, morals apparently escape you, but do try to keep up. Morals preserve society, hence the recent desire to return to traditionalism. Nests of degeneracy like Merkelland need to be nuked in order to preserve a good and moral society.
>>80642974
That's not how true miracles work. You wouldn't understand.
>>80642799
>I am not ethnically Japanese but I'm spiritually Japanese and I can tell you thy are not criminal at all.
1) Anecdote isn't data.
2) How can you be spiritually Japanese if according to your there is no spirit?
Kys
>>80642799
You wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for Christians.
>>80642003
this
black and brown = crime in town
>>80632222
WOW, someone should go to tell those niggers and wannabe niggers that they aren't following their natural code. Don't they know that crime, lying, and murders aren't in their nature??? It's 2016!
>>80642853
Explaining it to you will take longer than i wish, and you wouldn't understand it (You didn't understand my last points). You are ignorant about philosophy, read a little bit more (Begin with Mill) and we can discuss as long as your little hateful christian heart wishes.
>>80642427
>lel edgy fedora meme
We atheists are intellectually superior because we are more moral. Religious people are stupid. Religious people are all evil. People like you are the reason I called my grandfather a freak on his deathbed for asking for forgiveness. Religion is cancer and you are a bad cell. There is nothing you can do to stop the Chemo-Therapy aka Richard Dawkins.
>>80643185
Atheists should be executed for perverting society with pornography and evolution
>>80631608
shit brazil you okay?
>>80643242
You're the hateful one, m8. Sure, I'll read what you give me, and in return, you read the entire Bible.
>>80643227
yellow and white = good times in sight
>>80642022
>>80642065
It isnt?
Crime only affects poor trash on POL. Even Brazil is super safe if you live in the nice areas. Same with America. Go to any big city and find the best area. Safe as fuck.
>>80643127
>Anecdote isn't data.
What bullshit is this. Seeing something with your own two eyes and your own senses is suppose to be trusted less than a statistic made by some corrupt government official? If a statistic said all white males are evil would you believe it? No because you have anecdotal evidence (your own eyes) that it's not true.
>How can you be spiritually Japanese if according to your there is no spirit?
Well I don't believe in like a religious spirit but I don't know if you watch anime but there is scientific spirits that exist in the hidden dimensions. Tesla talked a lot about it and if it weren't for religious idiots like thinking it would cause muh biblical doomsday CERN would probably have discovered them by now.
>>80643389
Yellow? Another poor mixed American. SE Asia is dangerous. I swear that POL is a bunch of mixed breed American trash.
>>80643370
Religious idiot. Religious people should be denied medical care because they think they can pray it away anyway LOL
>>80643185
No I am alive because of science.
Pic related, this is you. I know you have never read anything from Voegelin (you never heard of him, actually), you can fool your poor mom you're an intelligent boy, not me.
>>80642416
This guy knows shit.
>>80643438
Aren't you the objectivist Mexican intellectual? Prove me with objectivity why we need to worry about society, because it is important to individuals? Why individuals are important?
>>80643745
Good thing christians and other religions contributed more to science than atheism aka the religion of fedora tippers ever have.
>>80642022
Is this a serious question?
If it is, the accepted theory is that the well-being of a society reflects the well-being of its citizenry.
>>80642065
Not really. If the object is to create a great society made up of well-educated, strong people then the obvious course of action would be to promote education and physical wellness among the population. In theory, this creates a self-sustaining system in which the society is great because the people within it are prospering.
>>80643780
You're living in Canada, founded by Christian majority people and if youre white, most likely your parents were Christian.
>>80628262
>>80629587
No, they deliberately killed priests and religious figures in the name of state atheism
>>80644020
You should probably go back through the replies to get context.
>>80628262
>Iceland
>island nation near Arctic Circle with extremely small population
>Japan
>island nation with strong isolationist sentiment that suffers from extensive organized crime problems
Nobody in space is Christian and they have the lowest crime rate we've ever seen.
>>80643908
Not fair, atheist have Bill Nye and Neil Tyson on their side.
Japan has and always will be Shinto. I even prayed to their Shrines, very spiritual, and /comfy/
Why don't you believe in enhancing your spirit?
>>80643809
From where is that from? That actor seems familiar, i think.
That would require a lot of time, it is not my fault you are unable to understand why.
>Believe whatever makes you feel superior/happy.
>>80644347
And almost every nobel prize winner, but authority is a logical fallacy anyway.
>>80643377
I almost did, except for the genealogy and lists parts, they are fucking boring.
>>80644324
They also have the lowest birth rate, and I would not be impressed if most of males who enjoy cuckoldry (all the meanings you can give to it, not only sexual) are atheists.
>>80643599
"Scientific spirits hidden in the hidden dimensions"
Source: Tesla and anime.
I'm on my phone can someone screen cap this nigga.
He cray
>>80644203
kek, i didn't notice.
>>80643690
>SE Asia is dangerous.
Still better than the Middle East and Africa.
>>80643908
Are you fucking kidding me? Bill Nye, Carl Sagan, Steven Hawking, Neil Degrasse Tyson. The smartest people on earth (except Carl because he's dead) are all atheist scientists and all invented stuff while you wack off to Jesus.
>>80644101
First off the Natives founded this place and although they were religious they didn't let it interfere with their lives like dumbass Christians holding back science.
>>80643599
It was good while it lasted. But that last post was too obvious.
My hatred for leaves grow by the day.
>>80644676
Tesla was the smartest man to ever live and said "When science begins studying that which is not physical technology will advance faster in one year than in one thousand". This is the guy that invented the death ray but destroyed it right after because humanity wasn't ready for it. You don't laugh him off.
>>80645198
>>80645005
>>80645078
Stop. Do something with your fucking life you loser.
>>80645128
What about my argument was baity? It's true Tesla talked about hidden dimensions and seeing something with your own two eyes can't be brushed off as a fallacy. Could a lawyer in a court-room say "Nope witness you say you saw the murder but that is anadotal fallacy".
>>80645315
How about you do something with your life loser. You're the one trolling on 4chan
>>80645377
Elong Musk is just as mentally unstable as you.
>>80645078
Are you a native? I didn't think so.
>>80644504
I'm glad you answer your own objections.
>>80644374
Little Miss Sunshine
>>80644635
That's great, for the most part.
religion is based
>>80645377
Tesla was religious. Not just spiritual, RELIGIOUS.
>>80645497
Don't you dare talk bad about that man he donated his patent to chairty for you assholes he will save the world. He is like iron man do you want to be on Tony Starks bad side?
>>80645517
I go to their reserves and give them atheistic/scientific presentations.
>>80628262
>Japan and Iceland, the least religious countries on this planet, have lower crime rates than all christian nations
They also have less niggers. Your move.
>>80645837
Okay, but that's not the point. You owe your existence to Christians because the events of world history influenced your birth.
>>80644347
>Bill Nye
Not even a scientist. Never published anything or been subjected to peer review
>black science man
Publicly makes a video stating he is NOT an atheist and tells fedora tippers to gtfo
You didn't even mention
>Richard Dawkins
who hasn't contributed to science in forever and focuses his time on making literal meme books since he figured that robbing r/atheism fedoras with logical fallacies makes more money than research grants.
>>80642799
>spiritually Japanese
There's no such thing, you're either a Japanese or a Foreigner. Even foreigner who migrate there and had kids there are still treated as non japanese. Stop being deluded.
>>80645803
Tesla was also crazy.
Newton believed in alchemy
Stop using authority as an argument.
>>80646209
I wasn't, but the Canadian was using Tesla in his argument.
