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>christians believe this
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not necessarily
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>>80574996

So some Christians don't believe in the Bible? or where's the loophole lie here in the Noah's Ark story that allow some people to apply it to the real world?.
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>>80574996
gtfo fedora
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>>80575093
they pick and choose the parts that agree with their feelings
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>>80574913

Christians believe a lot of stupid shit

news at 11
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>>80574913
I believe it. And you can say nothing to he contrary.
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>>80574913
Atheists believe in far dumber things, like fag rights, democracy, gender equality, etc, and even think they have a right to criticize religious people for not believing in that bullshit

I will take my fairy tales with a solid moral message over faggy liberalism any day of the week
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>>80575093
I;m sure some would say its not important if it happened or not but its important to learn the lessons from the telling of it. or something idk.
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>>80574913
who cleans the shit out of that thing?
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>>80575093
They don't take it that fucking literally and actually focus more on "what God intended for this event to mean in the divine plan of salvation" rather than "floating zoo."

Protestants tend to only focus on the floating zoo part.
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>>80575234
I can say that you're gullible.

>It was written in a book
>IT MUST BE TRUE

That's literally your logic
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>>80574913

I believe in something more along the lines of this. Bronze age writers wouldn't know how to describe a spaceship and DNA stores of all known life forms, so they settled with an ark with built by an old guy that liked to get drunk on wine.
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>>80575093
Old testament is jewish bullshit
New testament is what Christians believe in
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>>80574913

Atheists like creationists exhibit a lack of understanding what a metaphor and allegory are and how to detect them.
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I swear that story was made by jews to make christians look crazy.
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>>80575289

>believing in a voting system by the people is dumber than believing a guy built a boathouse big enough to fit two of EVERY ANIMAL to live on and manage to actually GET two of every single animal (male/female no less) to live together without killing each other in a single lifetime.
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>blacks believe this
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>>80574913
>CHRISTIIANS BTFO FUCKING MORONS
>Quotes Old Testament
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>>80575400
No my logic is that it is scientifically possible to build a boat that is capable of holding two of every species on this planet.
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>>80575465

More viable than some things that fundamentalists believe.
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>>80575420

This story is most likely based of local myths from around mesopotamia, since they also have a myth about a flood and preserving life, as well as a huge flood actually happening.
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>>80575390

>They don't take it that fucking literally

How do they take it?. So is it a fairytale even within the Bible or is it supposed to have really happened in the Bible?. I thought it the Bible said it actually happened. I was mistaken this entire time.
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>>80575403
>I dont believe in that but I believe in SciFi

Shit like this is why I keep on coming back to /pol/
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>>80575289
Damn atheists, bullying the church into believing their bullshit lies about evolution
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>>80574913
>collecting animals in cages is hard
maybe the lions yes, but you have to know God was with him tho
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>>80575662

>failing to interpret things on your own

I swear to god Fedorafags have many things in common with creationists.
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>>80575418
How is this allegory? God said this is what happened when man turned from God after creation. He flooded the earth and saved two of every creature and seven of every clean creature. He let these saved creatures repopulate the earth.

If you fedoras think this is allegory, next you're going to tell me that Jesus dying and being resurrected three days later is allegory too.

God created the universe in seven days. God is all powerful and all knowing. There is nothing he cannot do.
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>>80575492
>holding two of every species on this planet.

And capable of holding enough food to feed all these animals?

And have a way to dispose waste to keep animals alive?

And run this massive massive ship with JUST EIGHT FUCKING PEOPLE ONBOARD?

Get the fuck outta here with that shit
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>>80574913
I like the Atrahasis better. It's the prequel to the Gilgamesh epos.

>>80575289
>Atheists believe in far dumber things, like fag rights, democracy, gender equality, etc

Are you implying that the majority of Christians don't believe in that shit as well?
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>>80575417
>Believing in the miracles of Jesus

lol
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>>80575817
It's still possible. The floods only happened for 40 days and 40 nights.
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>>80575577
>>>exposing your power level that hard that early
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>>80575817
People lived longer back then according to the bible.
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Well Sumerians believed it first. Then the jews loved the story so much they used it too. Then when the greeks wrote the Septuagint (Christian bible) and invented christianity they kept it too.
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>>80575873

The ship would break apart.
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>there are actual religious people here
hahahahahaha
I really thought it was a joke but these people are serious
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thank you for letting me take care of my wifes son, God!
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>>80575770

>failing to interpret on your own

>needing a preacher

How can religious people manage to BTFO of themselves so badly.

Are they retarded or just brainwashed? or both?
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>>80575987
Nope. Not with German engineering ;)
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>>80575417
Then why did Jesus come in the first place.
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>>80574913

Athiests believe there are 20+ genders and also believe that if a woman chops off her penis she suddenly become a man.
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>>80575808
can he create a god twice as powerful as himself?
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>>80576028

Noah wasn't a shipwright, actual shipwrights have made ships as large as the alleged ark and they don't fare well against anything that isn't a mild wind.
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>>80575808

You are failing to see the forest from the trees.

The message behind this is that god choose to smite those who insulted him, but that he did preserve the innocent. Animals and Noah.

We know, as many schoolars do that said fragment is based of a Sumeriaianstory based on a real life huge flood.

More over since this is old testament it's not necessary to be taken with high importance.
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>>80575940

So is THIS PART real?. Or when religious people actually said to me in the past "people lived a couple hundred years to me" they were just making it a point leaving me to interpret that somehow?. Shit. Can someone religious here point to the stuff in the Bible that is SUPPOSED TO HAVE HAPPENED?. Is ANY of it supposed to be real?. Or is it all just made up stories to teach lessons like Aesop's fables?. Goddamn. The entire time I thought people took it seriously and literally.
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>>80576110
It had the blessings of god. What more can I say?
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>>80576053
BECAUSE the old testament was bullshit.

For the same reason Islam happened, because it's incredibly easy to claim something's flawed and then "correct" it.
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>>80576159

Why doesn't God bless things anymore so they can break the laws of physics?
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>>80576006

> not understanding tbe purpose of a preist

You really are alike
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>>80576258
Because so many lack faith.
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>>80576159
this guy is too smart
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>>80576127

>More over since this is old testament it's not necessary to be taken with high importance.

>mfw when the next testament comes out the current testament will be scrapped.
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>>80574913
>taking Genesis literally
>ever
Daily reminder that Origen knew what's up.
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>>80575845
explain why miracles are impossible
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>>80574913
2 Peter 3
3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4“Where is the promise of His coming?” they will ask. “Ever since our fathers fell asleep, everything continues as it has from the beginning of creation.”…
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>>80576285

Do you have a source for this claim other than your own bunghole?
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>>80575873
And? Imagine trying to feed 2 cheetahs, two baboons, two gorillas, two lions, two siberian tigers, two wolves, two dingoes, two hippos, two mongoose, two polars bears, two grizzly bears, two black bears, two of every fucking species of carnivore, for 40 days.

Do you know how much meat you would have to bring onboard your ship? You realize how fast meat spoils, right? There's literally no possible way they could have brought enough food to feed these animal, and avoided having the food rot.
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>>80576438
Unfortunately that source requires faith. I'm not god so I don't make the rules.
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>>80576445
Animals can go a long time without having to eat if they are well fed.
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>>80576272

>telling me I don't understand

>not explaining it

You sound religious. Most religious people I've seen discuss with eachother argue and shit throwing passages at eachother as if the more passages and hours you've wasted praying earn you more badges in the church you attend.

This explains why you have an insistence on KNOWING what you know but not sharing. You do it for your own fullfillment and that's IT.
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>>80576489

So to clarify the source is your bunghole.
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>>80574913
>>80575223
http://www.viewzone.com/noahx.html

You were saying?

>>80575460
>a guy built a boathouse big enough to fit two of EVERY ANIMAL to live on and manage to actually GET two of every single animal (male/female no less) to live together without killing each other in a single lifetime.

>Does the bible mention the age of the animals?
>what if Noah only got babies of those animals >only have to survive 40 days on said ship
wew lad
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>>80576550
this is true
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>>80576584
No, the source is written in the stars.
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>>80576127
>God's word is not important

Just leave you apostate heathen. The Bible was divinely inspired by the Lord. It is His direct message to the Jews and Gentiles on Earth. We cannot understand the new testament without understanding the TRUTH in the old testament. Sumerians knew of the flood because it is a historical fact. That is like asking why the old testament mentions Nebuchadnezzar when other sources mention him too. He was a historical person who God used to bring justice the Jews.


>"Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. -- Matthew 5:17
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>>80576659

ayyyyy lmao
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>>80575674

> not realizing scifi embeds a lot of secrets about our past and future as a species.

Yeah, because there are no signs whatsoever that there was an advanced ancient civilization and/or extraterrestrial contact and humans were like an experiment that must have been protected from a major catastrophe.

According to Sumerians, lord Enki sided with humanity and Enlil sided with the gods when the gods learned that a flood was imminent. Many calamities have happened in recorded history. The flood story is retold in similar myths like Pandora's Box, and the Hebrew Bible account. It refers to something that happened long ago in a lost age, and started what we currently know as humanity.

The myths all refer to the break between the age of the gods (the golden age) where people were living extended lifespans, and dwelt amongst the gods, and the age of man, when the time was set for man to live at most 120 years. They are usually placed in a far distant age - perhaps 10s of thousands of years ago, but the Judeo-Christians are presumptuous to think the earth is only 7000 years old and Noah lived at a well placed year in a concrete Biblical timeline of history.

Archaeology and older myths make this account very hard to believe. It's much easier to say that their recollection of past events was lost due to imperfect recording techniques and a shitload of bronze and iron age wars. The Biblical "history" also serves the purpose of backing up the Hebrew "chosen race" narrative, so it would have to be different than the pagan traditions. Their god is so much more superior to any other, so it would follow that their traditions would have to be equally as extraordinary. "Wow, your god only took 7 days to build this earth, he's pretty badass".
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>>80576591

>what if Noah only got babies of those animals >only have to survive 40 days on said ship

OK, so now you're saying he may have had to go TAKE two what? fetuses? newborns? infants? and take them all there?.

How do you get an infant ant? or worm?

I mean, The problem is that I can't help but overthink this, and that's why I guess I am an athiest.

Religious folks like the "sure, sounds about right, I'll leave it at that" approach.
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>>80576591
So Noah also milked female cheetahs, tigers, wolves, bears, etc?

And somehow kept these neatly organized thousands of gallons of various unpasteurized animal milks from spoiling for 40 days?
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>>80574913
It's different than you might think.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwQY8D8NXJNOCZ6o78mLhCXxLivln7X6V
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REMINDER:
Two animals are not enough to start a population mate.

Thats also why Adam and Eve are total bullshit.
Like your whole cucked religion.
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>>80574913

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE BIBLE IS FACT!

STAY MAD HUEY!
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>>80576377
Have you ever seen a person grow a severed limb back? Has it ever been documented?
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>>80576076
That's like saying that christians believe that if you eat shrimp you'll go to hell...
Not every christian believes that.
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>>80576659
>it was aliens
Well, at least aliens are much more probably than a god.
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>>80576404
>make outrageous and fantastic claims
>throw a "there'll be people who won't believe those claims" prophecy in there
>prophecy inevitably happens
>s-see? this means that those outrageous and fantastic claims must be true!
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>>80576931

>Two animals are not enough to start a population mate.

Another good point, just like even two humans. I've heard from religious people that back then it was ok to fuck brothers and sisters and 1st cousins and shit. Then eventually (never explained) this became wrong.
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>>80576958
People like you need to understand that aliens are not real. They are angels or demons.
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>>80576347
Yeah like most people that's where I started reading and just couldn't even finish the first chapter. Today, the church can't just say that people didn't have a fucking clue why seashells were half way up mountainsides back then. noooooo! What could would that do them? Seriously, they need to treat Abrahamic childhood indoctrinations as child abuse or this world will never get any better.
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>>80577022
They had pure genetics that could withstand inbreeding depression.
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>>80577138
>pure genetics

literally what
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>>80576952
I haven't and I don't know if it has been documented, but how does that prove that miracles are not possible?
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>>80575417

If you read the New Testament, you would know Jesus believed in the Old Testament stories like Jonah in the belly of a "whale" and many of Isaiah's prophesies.
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>>80577025

People like you need to understand that angels and demons are not real. They are aliens.
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>>80577172

This
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>>80575465
Ezekiel 23:20 proves that Egyptians were blacks.

The Bible wouldn't lie.
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>>80575817
God took part in that
I bet you don't even believe in magic.
I bet you also believe' time' and 'cause and effect' exist, which is logically dumb if you can perceive everything all at once.
The main thing about the bible is we know it's not all right, it's been corrupted and added to by men, so you are meant to have faith.
Did you know there are 'poetry' sections in the bible?
Even fucking Jesus himself talked in parables at times, actully most of the time
"I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter what has been hidden since the foundation of the world." (Matthew 13:35)
> Jesus himself talked in parables
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>>80577240
When one thinks alien, they are not thinking about Christ. This I believe is another part of the Jewish agenda to get people to drift away from Christ.
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>>80577296
> Jesus himself talked in parables
Hear is a pretty simple one, but there are really weird ones:
And when a great crowd came together and people from town after town came to him, he said in a parable: 5 "A sower went out to sow his seed; and as he sowed, some fell along the path, and was trodden under foot, and the birds of the air devoured it. 6 And some fell on the rock; and as it grew up, it withered away, because it had no moisture. 7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns grew with it and choked it. 8 And some fell into good soil and grew, and yielded a hundredfold." As he said this, he called out, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear." 9 And when his disciples asked him what this parable meant, 10 he said, "To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God; but for others they are in parables, so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand. 11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, that they may not believe and be saved. 13 And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy; but these have no root, they believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away. 14 And as for what fell among the thorns, they are those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of life, and their fruit does not mature.
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>>80577296

>God took part in that

Explain this part?

>inb4 I didn't mean it literally.
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>>80576931
>says findland
the only 2 countries i dont take seriously about religion
finland and russia
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REMINDER:
Christianity is Cuck™: the Religion.

Jesus literally said: "Do not resist evil men".
He says "love thy enemy"

It is even worst then if you kill your enemies they win.
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>>80577443
Why?
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>You will never live to see that God is real and he's so sick of the degeneracy he decides on another flood and he chooses you and your waifu as the only 2 humans to repopulate after with your animal bros
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>>80577457

Exactly. He's an ancient version of Justin Trudeau, but with a beard
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>>80575662
Usually "thing happened, here's how they recorded it, but this is what God's point was."

I believe it happened, but at a VERY small and local scale. Because to Noah, the Levant WAS the entire world. He could never have fathomed the Korean Peninsula or the Falkland Islands being a thing.
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>>80577509
you two are always so mad with Christ
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>>80576874

>How do you get an infant ant? or worm?

>So because I was addressing the problem of size of things like giraffes or dinosaurs and I in reply said age difference you turn it around and claim that I meant that to be even things like ants or worms

>This is also assuming he has technology to store insects, or assuming said insects need to be protected and couldn't have comeback from a flood

>Saying that he brought 2 of every bug when bugs are not mentioned is like saying he brought 2 of every fish.

go fuck yourself

>I mean, The problem is that I can't help but overthink this, and that's why I guess I am an athiest. Religious folks like the "sure, sounds about right, I'll leave it at that" approach.
>I'm 28 btw
>implying I haven't given this actual thought
again go fuck yourself
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>neckbeard starts browsing an anime board addictively
>hears that atheism is becoming popular in distant places he'll never go to or have any connection with
>starts to believe this online community is more real than the community around him in real life
>becomes Christian to be contrary to online community and artificially feel more moral than everyone around him
>still an unlikable friendless autistic manchild in real life further pushing everyone away from him
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Hey guys remember that time some children insulted a bald prophet and then he cursed them in the name of god and summoned some bears and killed 40 children
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>>80577655
>go fuck yourself
>again go fuck yourself

Great arguments, no wonder the churches have to import third world subhumans to fill their ranks when that's the kind of reasoning that Christians use to convince whites.
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>>80577399
I mean it's dumb to accept the argument that God made it rain for 40 days and flooded the human world, then arugee details like "but how did they get rid of the shit" "Where did they get the food from"?
If you accept the first part, I'm sure god could help with the second part.
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>>80577655

>Saying that he brought 2 of every bug when bugs are not mentioned is like saying he brought 2 of every fish.

>not mentioned

http://biblehub.com/genesis/7-2.htm

It says to to bring EVERY animal, in pairs of two or by sevens

>the word every

>not including something
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>>80577795
>cool not reading my actual argument
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>>80577958
>implying you can argue the semantics of 1 particular word in a passage that's thousands of years old and has been translated hundreds of times
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>>80577799

>I mean it's dumb to accept the argument that God made it rain for 40 days an

I can see it raining for 40 days straight and a giant flood (although in an extremely rare freak natural environment) but see it as possible and not at ALL with the help of a god.
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>>80577958
>treating the floating zoo aspect this seriously

Even ancient Jews didn't get so autistic about the idea of a floating zoo. Because that's not the point of Noah.
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>>80577958
look the inside of the ark was a timelord style space (bigger on the inside) happy now? God also made time slow down inside their bodies so they were not as hungry and didn't die.
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Also don't forget that Adam and eve weren't the only humans, it clearly says some of the brothers leave and marry other tribes not from adam.
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>>80578145

Ok, so what you're saying is the bible can't be taken seriously?. yet a lot of times people hold that shit up above their head and tell me "you have everything you need to live your life right here in this book".
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>>80577457
how can you rationalize christianity and cuckoldry going together? cuckoldry is either
a) adultery or
b) premarital sex
both of which are considered sins in christianity
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>>80578304
>taking a memer seriously
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>>80578248
You'll notice you're the one taking every world literally. Christians realize that it's a book written thousands of years ago in languages we are not reading it in, and the fact it's a compilation of multiple books. Christians realize this and so look for meaning in the passages. They look for what it is trying to convey. It's fedoras who take it totally literally word for word and the sperg out with HURRR HURRR SEEEE/?!?! IF THIS IS TAKEN LITERALLY IT DOESN'T MAKE SENS CHECKM8 CHRISTFAGS
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>>80578118
Oh, I thought you were joking with those passive-aggressive greentexts, considering we're not on tumblr.
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>>80578248

Also, how often have you heard Einstein's theories be supported with a "you can't take that literally" or a court document being defended with "you can't take that literally" or a medical record with a "come on man, that's just a way of saying...".

Can't you religious retards get someone NON-RELIGIOUS to interpret once and for all?.
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>>80577538
But God IS real and he wants you in his kingdom

You wouldn't want to live through the Bible's end days, but if you survive it, it's pretty metal
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You know a lot of the bible is symbolic and not meant literally, right? Christians =/= protestants
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>>80577683
Who are you talking to, and what are you talking about?
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>allegory
>metaphor

Please. The entire histories of these religions have been:
i. Make claim based on book which is the word of God
ii. Science refutes claim
iii. Religion forced to make concession, make claim it wasn't literal, then move on to next claim that Science has yet to refute
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>>80578404
Einsteins theories and a medical record are not the same topic you fucking idiot. That's like saying "oh you like that poem because it reminds you of something meaningful from your childhood? WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD EINSTIENS THEORY BE ACCEPTED BECAUSE IT MADE SOMEONE FEEL GOOD ABOUT A MEMORY HAHA CHECKM DHRISTFAG
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>>80578304
>cuckoldry is either

Cuckoldry comes from the cuckoo bird that lays eggs into other birds' nests for those birds to raise their offspring.

God laid his egg into Mary.
Joseph raised it.
Which makes Joseph a cuck.

>Christians even glorify this story
>mfw they now deny being behind the cuckening of all former Christian countries
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>>80578565
Science has never been able to refute any clime made by the bible.
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>>80577457
You can't fight evil with evil son.
You lead by living a virtuous life.
Jesus also whipped people when he thought it was right. It is a complex morel narrative.
Also you are soppsed to live humblly so you won't have much to steal/lose in the first place, and your fellowship is sopsped to help you out if you do lose things
>the pope
46“Beware of the scribes, who like to walk around in long robes, and love greetings in the marketplaces and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at feasts, 47who devour widows’ houses and for a pretense make long prayers. They will receive the greater condemnation.” -John
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Christians are so full of shit.

2 Esdras 6:54-56

And after these, Adam also, whom thou madest lord of all thy creatures: of him come we all, and the people also whom thou hast chosen. All this have I spoken before thee, O Lord, because thou madest the world for our sakes. As for the other people, which also come of Adam, thou hast said that they are nothing, but be like unto spittle: and hast likened the abundance of them unto a drop that falleth from a vessel.

God says all nations outside of Israelites are nothing and said you're like spit. You faggots also preach God loves everybody right?

Romans 9:13-15

As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

God said he'll have mercy on who he wants to have mercy on and give salvation to which people he chooses. This is why God has a chosen people. White people are not the chosen people nor are those fake ass Jewish bastards. The word of God is for us the Israelites not you damn heathens and you can't accept this truth! Want more proof? Ok, let's go to y'all favorite scripture

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

But who was he talking to? Let's see in order to receive salvation you have to repent right? What's repentance? Giving up your wicked ways and following the laws, commandments, and statutes of God right? So cool you can ONLY repent if you do those things so let's see what God says.

Psalms 147:19-20

He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

Is God a liar? He said you don't know the laws and he doesn't deal with other nations. Game over
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I find it extremely convenient that god and other wizards stopped doing magic tricks in public as civilization and society expanded over time. At some point he just decides to fuck off permanently and now only exists "in spirit"

An interesting thing. The more potential observers of a phenomena you have, the less actual observations of said phenomena you have.
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>>80578565
>Science refutes claim
Which claim has science refuted?
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>>80575400
Everything we know is written somewhere and we believe it because it was written somewhere. There's even talk of people being swayed by what they read on a rhodesian underwater basket weaving enthusiasts image board. And I chose to believe what I read in a 2000 year old book that holds true to a lot of what I see today.
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>>80578637

What is a "clime"?

Science doesn't disprove "climes" so you might be right.
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>>80578784
Claim*
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>>80578389

>Oh, I thought you were joking with those passive-aggressive greentexts, considering we're not on tumblr.
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>>80578731
Mosaic Law is nullified by Jesus
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>>80574913

God they're dumb. (Pun intended)
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>>80578839
Beautiful quote.
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>>80578839
>>80578731
oh the ironing
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>>80577958
>EVERY
>ANIMAL
aka mammals
>BUG
>FISH
not mammals
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>>80578637
>>80578763
Jesus died and dead people were literally resurrected and walked the streets.

If you say this is metaphorical then you're being ignorant (purposely) as to how literally scriptures were read historically.

If you're saying this isn't metaphor and that people literally did rise from the dead and that science can't prove this didn't happen, your position is beyond retarded.
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>>80574913

I bet you're the type to think that, "based on a true story," means, "IT HAPPENS EXACTLY THIS WAY! NO EXCEPTIONS!"

Cuck.
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>>80578731
You don't understand that Jesus was a NEW convent that opened the Convent to all people, not just the jews, it's clear on this part. anyways 1000s of pages of text has been written about what happened to the non jews upon death before Christ, go read it if you care to learn.
You really really can't take any two lines of txt from the bible and make a point with it, each book has it's own narrative and larger points it's making. And many parts counter-dict other parts, especially out of context. It's written as a story not a Programming language, even a programming laguge you need context to understand what a logic command means
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>>80579235
You're retarded Jap bro. Dead men never walked any streets.
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>>80579156

>animals also known as mammals

>Christians still haven't figured out the difference

Drop the Bible, pick up a dictionary
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>>80579156

>Only mammals are animals

lad...
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>>80574913
>mfw
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Can God create a stone so heavy that even God is not strong enough to lift it?
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>>80579050


Matthew 5:17-19

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Read it and weap you lying ass devil. Christ abolished the sacrificial law you stupid mother fucker so we don't have to sacrifice goats in this modern day. You can't find scripture to support your claims and you never will because God doesn't give a shit about your people and you're not meant to be saved but to enslaved.
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>>80579390
Jesus fulfilled mosaic law by being the ultimate sacrifice, therefore nullifying it as it is no longer necessary or relevant
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>>80579235
>If you're saying this isn't metaphor and that people literally did rise from the dead and that science can't prove this didn't happen
Science can't prove that didn't happen. You should honestly look a little deeper into what science is and is not what proof is. Science observes the universe. That's it, it's observation. People can be revived today after being clinically dead. There's no way science could disprove a claim like that and it wouldn't bother to, because it can't and it's very unscientific to say "well I know this is impossible because like ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
>your position is beyond retarded.
not an argument
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>>80579537

God needed to sacrifice his only son to nullify something?.

Isn't that a form of payment?
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>>80576665

Where does it say specifically that the flood is a law?

It's clear as day that fragment is simple tradition, if we take that as law, than don't we have to take all stories of all the people as law?

>>80576559

The preist is there to perform sermons, host confesions (aka perform all the church things be it holy or sacred) as well as act as a middle man between man and god, though mostly between a comunity and god.
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Reminder that Judas suffered infinitely more for the sake of humanity than Jesus ever did.
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>>80579310
>17 posts by this ID
Dude hang your gentlemanly cap up and go to bed, damn
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>>80579310
>implying a man smart enough to build said ark and highly regarded by God and possibly even inspired by or infused with knowledge by God doesn't know that living condition differs in said species or that said species are different

k
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>>80579356
youre asking if god cant do something, can can do anything
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>>80579599
>Science can't prove that didn't happen
lol.

>There's no way science could disprove a claim like that and it wouldn't bother to, because it can't and it's very unscientific to say "well I know this is impossible because like ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

Saying that it isn't possible for humans dead saints to walk the streets because someone was crucified is unscientific? Ok.

>>80579289
Of course they didn't. That doesn't prevent Christians from thinking they did.
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>>80579631

The price of sin is going to hell. Jesus died in the place of humanity so that humans can go to heaven.
You can call that a payment if you want

>>80579806
If he creates a rock that he can't pick up, then he can't pick it up which is a thing he can't do. But if he is unable to create a rock that he can't pick up, that is also a thing he can't do
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>>80575817

>there were the same number of species 8,000 years ago as there are now.
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>>80578608
he raised god, so what
meme harder
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>>80579864
Well if they think lots of dead people suddenly arose from the grave then they aren't Christians.
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>>80579864
>Saying that it isn't possible for humans dead saints to walk the streets because someone was crucified is unscientific? Ok.
It literally is. You can claim skepticism, you can claim likelihood, you can place your bet, but to claim proof is literally unscientific. But you're okay with that, like you just claimed so that's fine, now that you've been corrected on science disproving Religion
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>>80579356
you're asking if god can do something that isn't logically possible, so the answer is no, he can't make 2+2=5 either
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>>80579259
>calls me a lying devil

>quotes scripture and purposely misinterprets it
oh
the
ironing

That is Jesus saying he is living according to the Father's law, not sure subverting it

I am going to post the VERY next verse that you have conveniently left out, being an insipid liar yourself

>20. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees--The superiority to the Pharisaic righteousness here required is plainly in kind, not degree; for all Scripture teaches that entrance into God's kingdom, whether in its present or future stage, depends, not on the degree of our excellence in anything, but solely on our having the character itself which God demands. Our righteousness, then--if it is to contrast with the outward and formal righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees--must be inward, vital, spiritual. Some, indeed, of the scribes and Pharisees themselves might have the very righteousness here demanded; but our Lord is speaking, not of persons, but of the system they represented and taught.
ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven

You lost the Covenant, it's been 3000 years, get over it

>>80579631
Yes, for our sins
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>>80574913
the arc was underground.
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>>80580073

When exactly did he create hell?. Was it always there even before him?. Did he create it before Adam and Eve sinned?.
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>>80579631
stop being a jew lawyer
>>80579310
Stop being a jew lawyer
>>80579235
Stop being a jew lawyer.
.
return of the Pharises much? Have you even read the Gospels?
Jesus quite clearly warns about legalistic interpretations of scripture in like the first 10 pages. And several times he BTFU of the pharises(proto rabbies) who try to Jew Lawyer him into legal traps about holy law.
>TL:dr Jesus says don't be a rules lawyer and have faith and humanity about the law
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>>80580073
meant for

>>80579390
obviously

>>80580184
Can't say, I have a different view on Hell
https://youtu.be/wkRxGAhVqmc
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>>80580214
>return
They never left, they still stick to their Rabbis after generations of case studies and Hebrew semantics
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>>80579960
>so what

You could've said sooner that you're not receptive to arguments.
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>>80579259
>>80579537
>>80580073

Where is that in the fucking bible? You know what God says about people like you? Let me show you.

Romans 3:4-6

God forbid: yea, let God be true, but EVERY MAN A LIAR; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?

God says you're both liars and in your feelings about this truth. If what you say is true find it in the Bible(ITS NOT IN THERE). You're both emotional and in your feelings about this truth. God says you think he's unrighteous because he has a chosen people. He said to hell with you stupid heathens. I got more of this truth for you stupid heathens, let's bring out the word of God.

Isaiah 43:3

For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.

The Holy One of Israel. Did he say the Holy One of all nations? NO! But let's see you guys say the new testament blah blah blah. So you're saying God changed his mind right about you heathens? Let's see what Gods says about that.

Malachi 3:6

For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

God says he doesn't change! Which means he didn't change his mind about anything, therefore you can't say he decided salvation is for everyone! You will never find that in the bible. But what you will find is

cont
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>>80580184
>On the 4th day God created the light and the darkness

probably then
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>>80580402
>where is that in the Bible?
>I literally mention it's the next verse, with the Verse number in my greentxt

Just wanted to point that out, before I have to dig into your foolishness of a post with more scriptures out of context and understanding

I can already see the Bible school arguments
>But God doesn't change! Why doesn't he rain down fire like in Sodom and Gomorrah??!!
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>>80580394
the "joseph is a cuck" meme isnt an argument
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>>80574913
The key points of the story may well have happened in Mesopotamia
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>>80580402

right >>80580073 here

>quoting ye olde timey translation as if it makes you somehow smarter or more holy rather than using a translation that uses english as it is used in the current year
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KEK IS THE ONE TRUE GOD!!! HE WILL BLESS THE WORLD THROUGH MEME MAGIC TO DRIVE OUT THE NONBELIEVERS!

PRAISE KEK! HAIL GOD EMPEROR TRUMP!
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>>80580719

Wouldn't it make more sense for both sides to argue on the original greek text?
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>>80581033

Naturally, however I doubt anyone in this thread can actually read ancient greek

So going out of your way to use a translation which is barely readable by modern english standards is ridiculous
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Atheists are some of the most hypocritical fucks in the world.

>"YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR SKY FAIRY GOD CAUSE YOU WONT LISTEN TO EVIDENCE"
>doesn't listen to Christians who try to explain their theology and why they take certain parts of the Bible literally and some allegorically

>"YOU ARE SCARED OF ATHEISM CAUSE NO OBJECTIVE MEANING/ NO AFTERLIFE"
>"WHAT!!? GOD WILL SEND ME TO HELL FOR NOT BELIEVING IN HIM!!! HOW FUCKING CRUEL"

>"Objective morality dont real"
>tries to argue against religion by saying it's evil

>"NIGGERS AND WOMEN ARENT OPPRESSED QUITE CRYING FEMINAZIS"
>bitches about being oppressed cause someone said atheists wouldnt make a good president


>"Christfags so offended"
>makes 20 minute youtube rant/ angry 5 paragraph comment when ever someone disagrees with them


I don't care how passive aggressive this comment is, you faggots are why I started telling people I am agnostic.
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>>80579259
>>80580073
>>80579537
>>80580674
>>80580719

I didn't want to have to cut your ass like this with this sword also known as the word of God but you damn devils will stop your lies!!!

Isaiah 45:17-20

For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.But ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.

Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.

That's right!!! YOU PRAY UNTO A GOD ON A WOODEN CROSS THAT CANNOT SAVE! What part of God knows everything don't you understand? He said it! He called out y'alls bullshit and now what you gonna say? The Christ you faggots describe is not in the Bible!

Revelation 1:14-15

His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

Boom! Do you fags worship that image? NO! You worship a faggot who came to save everybody with straight hair, light eyes, and long thin wavy hair and a soft spoken faggot ass voice! The exact opposite of Christ who's voice was like the sound of water thrashing loudly; many waters. You can't deny this fact! The word of God is out and you've lost stop trying to argue with me you damn idiots. You can't fight the word of God with your own word and claim to worship him, you're a liar and a damn devil!
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>>80580402
yes, yawn
Romans 3:23
>for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

We're all sinners, sort of the point for Jesus' sacrifice

God didn't say we're lying in this very instance, are you wackjob? How many leaps of logic do you even have to make to think that?

>Isiah
Yes, wayyy before Jesus, waaayyy back during the Pharaoh Saga, keep up with the chronology we're in Biblebook After Christ now

>I change not
>Psalms 118:6
>The LORD is with me; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me?
Yes he doesn't change, and he didn't, he still offers salvation, but it is now not exclusive to the Israelites

>You will never find that!
Didn't you JUST pull the John 3:16 quote? Loved the WORLD so much, NOT Israel, the WORLD

You are purposely twisting the word, which might work on someone already not believing
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>>80581193
People love their sin, and would sooner trust fiction and Horoscopes than trust God
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>>80575418
But the bible is not an allegory, it's the actual word of god, a perfect rendition of what it has done and why.
Or you are an xian strictly when it's beneficial?
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>>80580677
You declaring it a meme does not make it not an argument.

Did or did he not raise a child that was not his that came out of his wife?
If you say no, you're denying Jesus' virgin birth.
If you say yes, you're admitting that Joseph was a cuck.

Is there anything better than the cognitive dissonance of Christians on this board?
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>>80581409

And god can't tell a story?

And are you forgetting that a lot of pieces of the bible are stories about god?

Ce mama naibii sunt parabolele atunci?
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>>80581193
It would be less of an issue if there was some consistent metric for which parts are allegorical, or if most christfags had the most basic understanding of faith. Its not logical, its not supposed to be, and you look like a retard for arguing otherwise.
T. Christfag.
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>>80574913
Still more believable than the part where God has a son.
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>>80581567
Why would god need to tell fictional stories when he could make them real with a blink of an eye?

Gargara aruncata in ochii tai ca sa nu mai vezi minciuna, ce altceva ar putea sa fie?
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>>80581665
WEll that' more believable than a virgin giving birth.
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>>80574913
makes more sense than this
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Yeah, and it's because their "perfect, all-loving" God was trying to kill off humanity with a giant flood.

Sounds real loving to me. How many people did Satan kill in the Bible? Who is the real bad guy?
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>>80581220
>quotes Revelation
>Tumblr tier BOOOOOOMMMM GOTCHA
Cringe.

Revelations is almost entirely symbolic, you have entre texts dedicated to cross referencing scriptures

>Christ is not in the Bible!
The Gospels disagree

>"Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified." (Acts 2:36, ESV)

Jesus met all the prophecy standards
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>>80582022
God himself killed off the racemixers. Our ideas are just.
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>christians interpret the bible in the literal sense
Maybe the protestant inbred retards
they're the christian version of wahabi cavemen
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>>80574913
stfu monkey. Sheesh...maybe Noah should have never brought you onto the ark in the first place if this is how you repay him.
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>>80582022
wait till the end and see how many satan killed lol
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>>80581914

God did it.

Does it make sense now?
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>>80581914

wrong.

Atomic bombs are pretty fucking powerful and release TREMENDOUS amounts of energy in a fraction of a second.

The universe has "a fucking lot" more power and energy than any nuke we've ever seen.
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>>80581893

Why not is a better question.

Also another question is if it matters if it happened or not. The real point of the bible is to teach you about god and salvation and christianity and how to live a moral life. Things like that are unimportant if the message goes across either way.
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show some fucking respect
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>>80579259
>Believing Saul "Alinsky" AKA Paul
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>>80581287
>>80582071

Hahaha how can I twist what's being directly quoted you fucking idiot? Who was Christ speaking to in John 3:16? Israelites!

Notice how in all that bullshit you wrote you didn't quote the Bible to prove shit, you ran your goddamn lips. What does God say about men who run their goddamn lips speaking on his name with no scripture?

For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

GOD SAID HE DOES NOT CHANGE THAT'S WHY THE SONS OF JACOB(Us the Israelites) ARE NOT CONSUMED BY THE DEVIL. What is a devil? A DECEIVER AND LIAR!! You cannot prove shit you're saying! You can't manipulate me because I'm an Israelite. Everything you say GOD has an answer for it! You said way back then dumbass but God says he doesn't change so why are you bringing up when he said something? Lmaaaaoooo. You're not a sinner because you can't sin! Sin is only for those who can repent. You can't repent therefore you can't sin! How can you sin if you don't have the laws? Sin is for those who break God's laws, God said he never gave ANYONE BUT THE ISRAELITES THE LAWS SO THEREFORE YOU CAN'T SIN AND YOU CAN'T BE SAVED!!!

He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT SAY YOU DAMN DOG? YOU DON'T KNOW HIS JUDGEMENTS! WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO ARGUE WITH THE WORD OF GOD? I'M NOT MANIPULATING, I'M QUOTING. THE BIBLE IS, AS IT IS WRITTEN. HOW MANY PROPHETS WEREN'T ISRAELITES? 0. WHO DID CHRIST COME FOR? ISRAELITES! WHO DID CHRIST CALL DOGS? ALL OTHER NATIONS. THESE ARE FACTS
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>>80582022
>not the distinguishing between the old testament jew barbaric god and the new testament aryan righteous God
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Incorrect. Jews do. The old testament is to explain how the New Testament came to be. Essentially people leaving the Synagogue of Satan and accepting Christ the savior. You can't start a book in the middle. Gotta read the Old Testament to understand how the New one came to be.
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>>80581114
It's not unreadable at all, and it sounds a lot more impactful and beautiful. Almost as if some divinity is speaking to you itself, commanding the word of God to you.
Is it really so terribly hard for you to grasp the meaning of "thee" and "thou"?
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>>80582190

It's all part of the Bible and covers the same God.
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>>80582189
So are you a Messianic Jew, Karaite, weird Christian, or what? What do you identify as, religiously speaking?
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>>80582309
>it sounds a lot more impactful and beautiful. Almost as if some divinity is speaking to you itself, commanding the word of God to you.

Purely psychological and superficial. The bible was not created in english. Every english bible is a translation. Putting an older translation up on a pedestal because it uses outdated language is illogical and has no biblical basis.
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>>80578241
That's because all those stories are nothing more that collection of different myths cobbled together in an unholy self-contradictory mess.
>>80578459
and you know this because he's YOUR god, right?
>>80578637
if by clime you were trying to say claim then yes, science has disproved practically all the claims in the bible.
>>80582171
And yes, it absolutely matters if it has happened or not. Because if it hasn't happened then the entire bible becomes nothing more than a collection of horror stories, not a manual for salvation and definitely the opposite of how to live a moral life.
BTW killing the first born sons of innocent people just to teach someone a lesson is not something to be proud of, unless you're a psychopath.
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>>80582577
Well duh, it's psychological, that's exactly what I'm saying. It's more enjoyable to read using the outdated language, that's its PSYCHOLOGICAL effect on the reader.
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>>80574913
You mean PROTESTANTS?
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>>80582672
You can't even provide me one source of any claim being refuted.
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>>80582672

>Because if this thing did not happen everything is wrong

Nice logic there
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>>80582758
you arent even catholic dude
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>>80574913

>1 post by this ID

Nice divide and conquer
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>>80582825
Does it matter?

You are no more intelligent than a pig for you believe that there is no evolution and Big Bang
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>>80582189
>Jesus answered him, "Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things? Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony. If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

>WHOEVER
>NOT ISRAEL
>WHOEVER

How can YOU twist what is said in the Bible? Ask yourself that.

That is Jesus himself answering you, no words or "moving lips" from me.

>John 1:29
>The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

All you're is repeating yourself, and this is fruitless
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>>80582071

You're a fucking idiot go kill yourself. Everybody here can see your lies you damn devil. I said the Christ YOU WORSHIP IS NOT IN THE BIBLE! Everybody sees that and everybody sees that you lost this debate.

Look at what your dumbass just said before I tell you what's to come ahead. You said Jesus met all the prophecy standards right? Ok well about this then?

Phillipians 2:10-12

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Does everybody in the world bow to Christ? Does everybody say Christ is the Lord? NO! So how could he have fulfilled all the prophecies you damn devil? Christ hasn't even returned lmao. You look like a fool and I'm done with you but I'm going to be generous and tell you what's to come to you very soon.

Genesis 15:13-14

Then the LORD said to him, "Know for certain that for four hundred years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own and that they will be enslaved and mistreated there. But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, and afterward they will come out with great possessions.

We came to the Americas as slaves in 1619 and have been enslaved and mistreated here for 397 years in 2019 its all over and done. You'll become our slaves and we'll receive great possessions also known as wealth! Wealth doesn't ever run out! Now its time to finish you devil with the word of The Most High!

Isaiah 14:2

And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

Awe shit. Who took us as captives on this Earth and oppress us to this day without cause? All nations! So who are we going to possess and rule over? All nations! Esp. WHITE PEOPLE!
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>>80574913
Everyone check this out:

>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Noahs_Ark

Good article on the Ark.

It never ceases to amaze me the power of group think and outright denial of those believing shit like this.

Some Australian Christian (why are Aussies the worst christfags?) build a "replica" Ark in Kentucky kek

>http://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article88765622.html

It's the current year people.
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>>80582951
it matters, it's like a psychologist trying to refute physics to physicists
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>>80583158
Can you demonstrate why evolution is bs?

Oh right..ACTIVATE CREATION PSEUDOSCIENCE!!
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>>80576591
>http://www.viewzone.com/noahx.html

please, there's been like 5 times someone has claimed to discover the ark. the problem with these kinds of biblical "scholars" is that they're so eager to prove their book, any and all skepticism flies right out the window at the first opportunity.
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>>80583057
I am relishing the fact, that your entire """argument"""" has been resting on me not quoting scripture, and when I do, you not only flap your lips, like you accuse me if doing, but do it in in the most obnoxious, all caps way, telling me to kill myself, and act so angry

>I said THIS and I said THAT!
Who cares what you said?

I care what the Lord says, and His Apostles.

>whoever believes in him may have eternal life
>Let all of the House of Israel therefore know for certain, that God has made him both Lord and Christ

You have not argued these. You have only, predictably, answered in wrath.

How is THAT for the bringing down the sword of the word of God?
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>>80576377
does the burden of proof mean nothing to you stupid fucks?
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>>80583057
Once again,
>>80582490
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>>80583321
Yeah, confirmation bias is the biggest obstacle creationists have difficulty in overcoming
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>>80583057
>Everybody sees you lost the debate

I don't know, is that true?

Has he made any point other than yelling and insisting that Israel is the only one who gets salvation, when scripture after scripture says otherwise?

Or is he being a Pharisee, and picking scriptures like Revelations which talks about Lions opening seven scrolls, and reads that with literal interpretation?
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>>80583455
Does it mean anything to you> LOL
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>>80576377
As Hitch (pbuh) said: "Extrordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".
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>>80577799
if god is just going to miracle all the problems of the boat away anyway, why even have noah make a boat?
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LOL HAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>80577799
>goddidit escape hatch

That's no an argument mate. How about I disagree and say Santa actually cleaned up after the flood?
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>>80579806
But if he can do everything effortlessly by himself then why did he used Noah as hired help? Hell, he made him do all the work.
>>80581193
and who decides which is which ? you or your god?
>>80582800
yes, logic is usually like that
>>80582770
You're kidding , right?
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Pic Related
You can find the remains of the Ark on google earth at the following coordinates: 39 degrees 26'37.14" N by 44 degrees 14'07.74" E with an elevation of 6384 ft.

Additionally, the animals were saved for future breeding, so they were obviously babies when they boarded the ark.
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>>80583915
You didn't do it gypo, but w/e
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>>80581193
you have some problems dude. do christians stop calling themselves christian because of westboro baptists? do muslims stop calling themselves muslim because of ISIS?

if some atheists complaining about stuff is the worst thing your group has done, you should be proud.

also, your post was one giant strawman.
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>>80583944
You do realize that this has been debunked long ago, right?
BTW, if they were babies/pups then who took care of them up until adulthood, who fed them and what? Who taught them what need to be done to survive?
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>>80583915
dude, you are going to die, see based st Peter and he will send you to hell, you dont want that
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>>80584115
Noah cared for them and instinct taught them just like instinct teaches animals today.
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>>80582490

I'm an Israelite! You know who I am you damn devil! I'm your worse fucking enemy. I hail from the Tribe of Benjamin, warriors of God's chosen people who are ravenous wolves who conquer by day and divide the spoils by night. I am of the youngest Son of Jacob and my mother hails from Judah. The spirit of a wolf and the heart of a lion and when God's angels give his shout my people will slaughter yours as Christ my King commands for the sins of your fathers. I will kill you all alongside my bretheren but first you WILL BE SLAVES. You'll be slaves before any of that happens, don't think for a second you get death that easy even though your death only means you'll be destroyed or a servant in Heaven. Win-win for me.

>>80582968
>>80583397
>>80583569

You have no damn argument. I told you already why nothing you say is relevant. This is where the argument begins and ends.

1 John 2:4

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Do you keep all of God's commandments? No. How do I know this? Because God says so. Where?

Psalms 147:20

He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

God said he gave his laws and commandments to the Israelites and has not done so with any other nation. God does not change nor will he ever change. He said so himself. Do you know the commandments? No. Why? Because God says you don't several times I have shown this to you. So do you know God if you don't keep his commandments? Hell no! So what does that make you a liar! This is why I'm not arguing with you. God counters you two steps ahead of every deception. Unless you're an Israelite you don't know God therefore everything you're saying is a lie. How can you repent when you don't know the laws? You can't. So if you can't repent that means you can't be saved. IT IS WHAT IT IS child.
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>>80583944
It's not even a fucking boat. It wasn't a boat when hikers went there and it's still not a boat from a satellite photo.
I used to love the old excuses, "B-but no one can go there to prove it because Soviet Union and Turkey!"
And again, it's a fucking Sumerian story, so how do jews and Christians reconcile this theft? When the ancient Sumerians write about it it's a myth to christfags, but when they write the same fucking story it's REAL!
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>>80581914
you do know there was about 4 billion years in between those two universal states, right?

that's like only taking 2 stories from the bible and pretending it's the whole picture.
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>>80584186
>Violent rambling that no one's actually going to bother to read entirely
Coolio, thanks anyway for sort of answering my question.
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>>80584186
Jesus knew everything about the law
he teached it
now we know
know we repent
cos Christ, that is Jesus
accept the salvation kike, Jesus can save you
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Is there any branch of Christianity that disavows the entire Old Testament from its canon?

It's retarded kike shit and you're not a true Christian if you believe that.

I mean, it's all stupid, but the OT is especially stupid.
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>>80584202
It's a formation made of fossilized wood. It happens to match the dimensions of the ark as provided in Genesis. There are dozens of claims that people found the Ark, but this one can be seen by anybody on Google Earth, while the others are all conveniently burried.

Genesis was written after the plagues of Egypt had already happened. Genesis is the uncorrupted version of history from Eden to that point. Don't you think it is a little strange that every single ancient religion tells the tale of that one time a huge flood killed just about everybody?
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>>80584436
Jesus believe the OT, you dont want to be Christian
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>>80584400
Jesus don't know science.

Ergo, he ain't omniscient
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>>80584400
>>80584470
man my english is awful
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Goodnight fuckers. I'm going to bed. May Christ be with you.
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>>80574913

Nope. At least the smart ones don't.
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>>80584507
maybe he knew but nobody asked him?
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>>80584455
It's also been visited and had samples taken. It' a myth.
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>>80584629
Link?
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>>80584584
He must know that humans and apes share a common descendent right?
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From every clean animal, take seven pairs, a male and his mate; and from every unclean animal, take one pair, a male and his mate; 3 and from the birds in the sky as well, take seven pairs, male and female, so that their offspring will survive throughout the earth. 4 In seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights. I will wipe off from the fertile land every living thing that I have made.”

5 Noah did everything the Lord commanded him.
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