https://www.quora.com/Are-the-Whites-to-blame-for-the-current-collapse-of-the-economy-and-infrastructure-in-South-Africa
Did you know whites are to blame for the economic collapse in South Africa?
>>80571804
>refuse to pay taxes
As if making the country poorer is going to make a difference
>still highly unequal because whites "abused" ANC policy
We simply went on with our lives, tried to carry on developing until we reached a stranglehold on that. There was nothing stopping the blacks from developing their own nationhood, economy, social status etc except their own mindset.
Sounds to me like this guy is blaming a largely black party's failings on whites
>>80571804
Typical of blacks to blame someone else for their fuckups. No self awareness at all.
>>80572185
I'm really sorry about what's happening to your country. Does it actually feel like collapse is imminent at the moment?
>IF WE HAD OUR OWN PLACE WE'D BE RUNNEN THAT SHIT
Chicago
>IF WE HAD OUR OWN PLACE WE'D BE RUNNEN THAT SHIT
New Orleans
>IF WE HAD OUR OWN PLACE WE'D BE RUNNEN THAT SHIT
Detroit
>IF WE HAD OUR OWN PLACE WE'D BE RUNNEN THAT SHIT
Oakland
>IF WE HAD OUR OWN PLACE WE'D BE RUNNEN THAT SHIT
Any given African nation
Getting rid of whites was the best thing they ever did.
>>80571804
Well yeah, OP. Once the whites there say "fuck this shit, im out" theres only gonna be one conclusion. Nigs will nog
>>80571804
I blame South Africa's collapse on their retarded social policies and the affirmative action which destroyed its private and public sector by forcing a 70 to 30 percent black to white ratio.
>>80572429
Yes.
That's why I'm scouting for resettlement here.
Fuck the ANC, and fuck all the spekneck kaffirs running the show, I'm out.
my favorite newspaper-- the Zim Herald. Today, they are expalinign why cutting off Whatsapp was a good thing....
forgot link-
http://www.herald.co.zw/
>>80572429
We're hanging on by a thread, but things are volatile at the moment with elections coming up
>>80573723
>We're hanging on by a thread
you are fucked friend. take what you can carry, any monies you have and get out with your life while you have it.
Within the year, it's going to be Zim 2.0, only a lot more violent. Get out. Easier to say than do, but family left Rhodesia (Zim) while they could still get something for their land, before I was born.
Get out while you have your life.
>>80574031
easier for the brits to get ancestral visas and stuff.
there's nowhere for afrikaners to go. the dutch would rather have rapefugees than their brothers and sisters who are being slaughtered.
>>80574952
Christ man, there's nothing I can do for you but pray. Have you tried applying for asylum in a civilized country?
>>80571804
>implying every white person was to blame
nigs at nite am i right?
>>80571804
>>80574952
I'd sponsor you, if my cuck government would let you come here.
>>80571804
>Did you know whites are to blame for the economic collapse in South Africa?
Whites are to blame for everything and therefore, yes, I already knew.
>+10 progressive points
>>80574952
Most of us English speaking people are in the same boat as you. Our ancestral lines go too far back to claim any sort of ancestral visa.
>>80571804
Wasn't everything better(in terms of income, literacy, life expectancy) for everyone involved under apartheid?
>>80572185
whites make up only around 10% of South Africa and they still find a way to blame whites.
At least its not just our niggers that are worthless subhumans I guess.
>>80575259
yes, I have a letter from the Dutch refugee people saying I would be deported and permanently banned from Europe if I broke the Dublin convention the way the rapefugees have.
They also say "South Africa is officially safe for whites"
>>80575596
your government is the only one even considering giving SA farmers asylum to be fair.
>>80575890
I'm talking about ethnically English people. I'm english speaking though I'm ethnically Afrikaans.
>>80576229
we have plenty of Muslims and Indians and Chinamen and white trash too.
Blacks can't run a nation for shit.
Look at Zimbabwe, their dollar is so inflated it's insane
And the farms.
Shit, look up the Detroit city hall meetings
Shits like a bunch of monkeys in a jungle
>>80576261
what the fuck
i am so sorry. i wish i had resources to help
>>80576199
It's questionable. The Apartheid government drew up the country in such a way that if you were black, you were instructed to move to your ethnic homeland where you'd have all the freedom in the world.
Naturally this didn't go according to plan and blacks swarmed South African cities, leaving their homelands in an absolute mess with a puppet government in charge. While townships were built in non-homeland SA cities, they were very much an afterthought as the quality of education in these schools were terrible, houses didn't have electricity until the last few years of apartheid. Townships were made and then left to fester with no order controlling it. So it was better in the sense that they were given housing, access to poor quality services where these services were previously non existent before in black homelands. Their homelands had very little autonomy and blacks didn't have a say in the running of South Africa, so from that perspective there was political suppression.
Since 1994 some blacks have made it out of poverty (i.e politically aligned ones) and there's been a few cases of townships being improved, but it's insignificant to negligible when you take population growth and net migration to cities into account. 1 black person gets rich, and another 10 are born in absolute poverty. They were fucked over by both the NP and ANC, but the ball is in their court now. The blacks who made it out of poverty have a responsibility to ensure the rest of their people do too, but that's where corruption and cronyism comes in
>>80576261
My family arrived with the 1820 settlers. I don't know how much more "ethnically English" you could get than that
>>80571804
Oh that's fucking rich.
>>80573723
Did you parents vote to end apartheid?
>>80572476
Haiti.
214 years of glorious Negro-only rule.
>>80574952
>>80575890
>buy plane ticket to Lybia
>hop on a boat
>become European citizen
It's really not that hard
>>80574952
AUSTRALIA
we're filled with saffas
>>80577602
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_apartheid_referendum,_1992
most whites did. Apartheid was turning into a global mess.
>>80577613
some one correct my if i'm wrong but didn't the Haitians destroy all their infrastructure because it belonged to whites thus setting themselves back 1000 years?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUsRLF8fFJA
>mfw our cucked goverment doesnt let our brothers in
>>80578104
That's already happening here
>>80574952
like the other guy said there's a lot of you here and we'll even offer quality speech therapy for that accent of yours
>>80578205
>mfw elderly saffa's here hate being mistaken for dutch.
>>80578384
every south african i've met here has their accent turn into a bogan-ish mess
Reminder that Botswana and Namibia are the only countries in Africa that are really trying, and they're about to get fucked by refugees from Zimbabwe and this shithole.
>>80578469
to be fair tho that happens to a lot of people kek
i think it's the most distinct
>>80571804
They are responsible, but only because they were the ones who gave an economy for the niggers to collapse.
>>80578630
Time to move out then.
>>80572476
Oakland is a majority white and hispanic. Not sure where the oakland meme originated.
>>80578080
TFW no leftist black gf to fuck
>>80578469
The one thing worse than an Afrikaner accent is an Afrikaner trying to imitate an Australian accent.
Every white South African guys ive met has been pretty openly/understandably racist
Most white South African girls ive met have been pretty open about dating black guys
>>80574952
this guy on the pic could be like any of us in the future
Poor bloody safros. They really got hammered by the international community in the 60s 70s and 80s.
They were fucking right.
>>80579753
Perhaps the females living in Wimbledon/Raynes Park. Very few whites here mix with other races beyond friendship
>>80576261
Man if you can, keep trying to get over here. I can't stand the shitshow over there and how your countries of origin are not interested in letting you go back
>>80580575
>Wimbledon/Raynes Park
They always seem to be Cape Town girls
>>80579753
We had a vice principal in high school from South Africa. Massive cuck. Full African nigger wife and mixed child. Looked like Bill Nye the Science Guy and weighed like 10 lbs wet. Chided anyone who was a conservative. He actually refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Sometimes he would mention his African name. Does anyone know if it's common for white South African men to use or have a name in a nigger African language?
>>80579065
In the 80s where Oakland was where all the black people from SF ended up when the faggots gentrified the place. The the Mexicans gentrified black parts of Oakland in the 90s too lol. NIGGA CAN'T CATCH A BREAK
>>80580729
>Cape Town
Seems about right. Cape Town is a haven for sjw's
>>80571804
http://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbabwe/Crisis-hit-Zimbabwe-wants-white-farmers-back-report-20150716
>>80580575
>>80580846
Can you answer my question about the names and stuff. I knew this guy from SA who was our vice principal and would recognize and tell us his African name. It was literally some nigger tier "Oogabooga" sounding shit, like it was a tribal name. Is this something that exists with white SAfricans or was this guy even more than a cuck than I thought he was? I know his wife was str8 out of Africa and had African kids that weren't his with the exception of one
In a roundabout sort of way, yeah.
South Africa was never intended to be a fully functioning, democratic Republic. So it isn't working as one.
t. White Kenyan
>>80574952
Just move here. Most of you already have.
>>80581047
As rare as it is for a white American to be called something like "DeShawn Jackson"
>>80581047
Definitely not common to have/use a black name. He sounds like a wanker. .
Maybe you should seek asylum in Russia or something...
>>80581296
>>80581232
That's pretty weird. Is there any reason for this or than being a cuck? I'm guessing maybe he did it to appeal to his wife or something who was a full tribal-tier nigger
>>80581376
You get libcucks in any white demographic. Sjw's have almost become a part of white culture unfortunately. SA is no different
>>80571804
Give me a mirror, I ain't giving them free clicks
>>80574952
Any legit sources for this pic?
>>80571804
When they left it did cause a collapse so they are right but not in the way they want to be
>>80581511
True. Thanks for answering. I was just wondering because it seemed to be really weird considering the exodus whites faced there, and he was an older guy so I would assume he was there at the time. He wouldn't formally use it, but it was like some weird special snowflake shit he would randomly bring up
>>80571804
it's no use arguing with these people and by these people I mean niggers.
They will use the rationalization hamster to blame Whitey for everything.
You can't debate with tchem with logic and arguments, because they will reject it all to hold their idea.
This proves again that the most important thing on this planet is POWER, so that others may not tak your stuff from you. Military power and political power.
>>80571804
KeK... did africa even have an economy?
The toppest KeK!
>>80572478
That's going in the folder
>>80574952
Come to spain.
Pretend to be jew or just pay 500k for a property, then eu passport and go hogwild.
>>80579783
Yep, stay safe Saffa and Eurobros.
>>80582978
man this shit will be the worlds greatest wake up call of all time
give about max 15 years for the violence and racial killing (against whites) to start taking place
>>80574952
Are guns/rifles legal in South Africa? Even if they aren't it seems like you just need to pick an area and start clearing out the niggers by any means necessary. All of them.
>>80583198
Yeah mate it's going to be fucking crazy, people have no idea what's coming and how bad it's going to be.
Fucking niggers.
>>80583424
an entire storied nation, strong and never conquered by her enemies, killed from within by "acceptance".
It's okay- this new holocaust will make people forget a little of the old, after all, it'll be a hundred years in the past almost. The idea of having pride in white nations will return. A generation of youngsters growing up will see nonwhites only as a source of division, violence, and helplessness.
>>80583424
Ha ha, no. The media will simply refuse to cover it. Facebook, youtube, and twitter will prohibit video sharing, and the normies will be none the wiser.
>>80583664
>thinking any centralized media will matter in 15 years
LOL you have NOT been keeping up. ad hoc mesh networks and nearly invisible awlays on, always recording, always connected cameras for anyone who wants one. basically no cost.
the islamic revolution will be televised, trust.
There was indeed a treason of the rich whites who just take advantage to mendela bc they didn't care about the country or other white peoples
>>80583781
>ad hoc mesh networks and nearly invisible always on
redpill me more on this subject… how can I be as confident as you?
>>80572429
I would be terrified to live there in the long run. You just know the international community won't do shit when it hits the fan.
>>80583781
As these technologies progress so will the means to control them by those that don't wish for those sentiments to be heard.
4chan is one of the few bastions of free speech left on the internet as it is.
>>80584049
if you think that and simultaneously think 4chan is some kind of bastion it shows that you just don't understand what's being discussed at all
tell me again how they're going to control the ad hoc wifi network. are they going to modify radio waves so they don't work? lol.
>>80574952
>>80576261
Try a slavic country, i know le slav meme but i'm sure it has to be better than this. Even other ex colonies like NZ or australia (i heard they're full though).
>>80576650
Expanded version.
>>80577613
What the fuck? Is that pig and the niglet standing on land made out of garbage?
What the fuck is wrong with these niggers?
>Even though Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC) has controlled practically everything in South Africa since the 2004 election, this level of control would not have been possible without cooperation from the Whites.
>If the Whites had simply objected to Cadre Deployment by refusing to pay taxes to a corrupt government then it would have been possible to prevent the current collapse in South Africa.
This reminds me of the part in The Last King of Scotland when the guy tries to tell Idi Amin to not do something economically disastrous, Idi yells at him and intimidates the fuck out of the guy and then when the plan ruins the economy Idi blames the buy for not fighting harder to try and stop it.
http://www.uruguayrelocate.com/
to all south africans that want to leave :)
>>80584632
Is that much of an improvement?
>>80582978
>>80584759
Doesn't surprise me, France is completely fucked and will be the start of the up coming European race wars.
>>80578384
>hey pot?
>yeah kettle?
>you one black ass nigga
>>80583405
the world wouldn't even let us keep them separate from us.
>>80584722
as opposed to no other option? indeedie
>>80584298
makes me sad that people are hurting
makes me happy that the difference in value between whites and blacks is recorded in history
>>80584854
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints
>>80571804
Is that why their king nigger was begging them to come back?
>>80578104
yeah they did, it was recolonized a couple times. each time the locals would completely trash the fuck out of the place after they were left to their own devices.
>>80584854
That photo is from England tough.
>>80577230
God damn you sound like a fucking retarded liberal blaming it on "economic factors" and "education". You can't just face fact that blacks are inherently dumb.
>>80578104
>>80585636
Yes, I'm sure that's why there is French writing, because it's in England and not France.
>>80576261
Come to New Zealand and marry me and you will get to stay.
>>80579295
>be britbong
>can't tell the difference anyway
>>80585636
Kill yourself.
Same place: http://blog.francetvinfo.fr/oeil-20h/2015/09/24/femmes-voilees-a-la-caf-lhistoire-dun-photomontage.html
>>80578356
blacks have literally burned down more than half of Detroit.
white people are arguably as dumb as they are for enabling it.
>>80585703
are niggers really that stupid?
I've never met any in real life so I have no experiences
>>80585734
Can't you see how poorly shopped the "Allocations familiales" sign is?
>>80585833
From your own article:
>Devant le bâtiment, les barrières sont complètement différentes. Normal, la supposée photo a été prise à Londres, dans le quartier de Westminster. Le bâtiment de la CAF est en fait un commissariat de police.
It says the pic was taken is London, somewhere in Westminster.
This is the picture that was shopped.
>>80576261
What the fuck. And yet they love to take morrocans to fill up their cities.
Dutch polacks go do something you faggots
>>80578104
Not really intentionally, just they failed to maintain it or give a fuck.
So, will there be civil war?
>>80586110
Damn, you're right.
>>80584049
Doesn't work like that. It's easier to track than to control.
>>80574952
Literally just fly to Alaska. Even if you're illegal you can find work and everyone is friendly. I'm not joking, any white people fleeing shit should come here.
If you choose to stay good luck friend.
>>80586761
What's the word for global civil war?
>>80578104
Watch Africa addio, they throw away and stomp good food just because it was imported from evil whitey.
And that was back then, i dont think they learned a thing
Makes my blood boil
Damn, I didn't know whites banned themselves from public sector jobs.
>>80571804
kek fucking morons.. niggers are scum
>>80585750
okay
>>80584854
It's not in france but in england and this kind of clothes are forbiden in france
Do any of you carry a weapon in SA?
>>80585997
9/10 times yes.
If they're in a suit and don't look pissed, generally some of the nicest people I've ever met, but that's 1/10 times.
>>80574952
that is a tiny gun
>>80572185
You fucked up South Africa, why did you not fight the ANC terrorist in the 90*s? Did the Jew media make you weak like they did with us?
My father visited South Africa in the 80's for business, he said it was actually a nice place, now he refuses to go there.
I wish we could get a President that would just cut off all humanitarian aid to Africa.
That would be a really good moment in time.
>>80586861
Don't get me wrong anon. I'm not trying to deny we have a problem with thirld world scum but spreading disinfo (at least amongst us) is not doing your average /pol/lack any favour.
>>80583576
I really hope you're right
>>80585997
I was going to say that but then I realised I don't hate the niggers. I despise them but they have no understanding of their doings
>>80584298
Zimbabwe and Mugabe are a gift that keeps on giving.
>>80585703
video of this?
>>80574952
Is the picture confirmed?
>>80579783
Lets go with a big bang then.
>>80588558
no. and i didn't find anything in a reverse image search. but this stuff's so common and the media blackout so aggressive that i'm not in any way dubious.
>>80574952
Fuck it if I weren't trying to move out of brazil I'd offer yo help you come here. I mean it's a shitty place but guys don't get killed just because they are white.
>>80589199
So you are basically genocided in your own country and have to pay for it?
>>80589403
>So you are basically genocided in your own country and have to pay for it?
white people, everyone
you nor I are any better
>>80588442
empire of dust. it's on youtube
>>80572476
Everyone forgets the blighted shithole that is Birmingham, Alabama. Don't forget, look it up.
>>80571804
Honestly I hope every person of African descent will be killed as a mercy to the human race.
>>80589531
Yes but South Africa is like a fute vision of what will happen to since, historically speaking, whites were never the majority in SA so it will start in those countries.
I am fucking scared to be honest, not because of the fights to come but that thils planet will lose its only hope, the white race.
>>80589403
>>80589531
correct.
>>80587266
RACE WAR NOW
>>80587572
yeah, because mudslimes have such a good trackrecord when it comes to following the law...
The Sentinelese people. They have never had any contact with whites, or any other race really. Alone for thousands of years.
"The Sentinelese maintain an essentially hunter-gatherer society subsisting through hunting, fishing, and collecting wild plants. There is no evidence of either agricultural practices or methods of producing fire."
When do they build dem pyramids n sheet?
>>80589892
what does he mean by this? 10% of all whites in SA were killed in a year? this cant be true
>>80590446
kaffirs can't math
>>80578104
Saw this documentation about the "downfall" for haiti..
>richest colony in the americans before revolt
>revolt of the blacks
>getting independent
>white devil aka france forced debt on them
>slaughtering whites
>as they say the debt ruined there country
Now one of the poorest countries..
>>80588442
>>80590446
there are about 300 whites murdered each year in south africa
>>80590657
Empowerment Zone.
I hate this world.
>>80591047
Do you see any hope for your country?
How is the sentiment of the whites, do they realise what is happening and what their country once was?
>>80571804
>blacks did it and whites didn't stop them, therefore whites are to blame
To make this logic work, you have to assume some rather racist things about blacks.
>>80571804
Meanwhile he's wearing a white shirt.
Such a paradox!
>>80589663
Used to be a nice little city way back when. I was born there in 85. Moved out in 90.
Got to spend my childhood in rural Alabama in the 90's. Bless you, White Flight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW5UEW2kYvc
>>80591189
i am 43, I know exactly what apartheid south africa was like, it was sweet.
As for hope, yes i do have hope, and so do many other whites. The sentiment is generally things were better in the olden days... but thats true for almost any other country. My standard of living hasnt changed much since the end of apartheid and neither did it for the majority of whites. Still living in the sun with cheap beer and loads of servants.
>>80591047
i really like ur flag
>>80591697
Is there any political movement that wants to restore the old SA?
>>80571804
But they are to blame cause they didn't genocide the fucking negroes.
WE WUZ RICH N SHIT
>>80571804
>>80571804
In a way they are.
I mean, you got to have an economy and infrastructure before it can collapse.
>>80571804
Just
Communist ANC riled up the negroids against the "evil whites" and took over, then progressed to turn the place into a shithole because they didn't have a clue about economics or farming or other things. By an extreme type of affirmative action, they hired only blacks for everything, regardless of their competence which fucked up their education system and other areas big time..
And now.. that they've managed to take a capitalistic thriving south africa under apartheid into a communist hellhole they want to blame white people for it..
This is dindu behaviour of the worst shelf. When they do something incorrect it's not them doing something incorrect.. it's somebody elses fault and usually ofcourse the white man.
>>80572478
>>80582533
Updated version.
>>80591697
sometimes i feel like most white saffers deserve what's coming.
Video related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4SS8uyhQnY and a must to understand how bullshit it is that "whites" ruined south africa.. No it was actually doing quite well untill ANC and mandela started turning it to shit.. that guy shouldn't even be celebrated he was nothing like they paint him as.
>>80591812
there is very strong support for the old cape colony to cede from south africa, but its never mentioned in main stream politics cause that would be absolutely "racist". Things have to get alot worse than it is now for the idea of an independent cape to be embraced as a main stream political ideal. But as of now most whites and coloreds are in general supporting of cape independence.
>>80592019
rally mad me thunk
>>80592105
Why, because you have wrath and jealousy over being incompetent? he works harder and more competent than you more than likely.
Yes.. let's just kill someone cause they're better than you, nice logic there.. Won't improve your qualifications you know that right?
>>80574952
Dude, that story that goes along with your pic is fucked up. Time for us to start insulating our neighborhoods from the blacks.
>>80592108
Yeah Molymeme's videos on this are great.
>>80592086
http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2009/07/28/mugabes-government-duped-into-diesel-from-a-rock-scam/
>>80581576
https://www.censorbugbear.org/farmitracker/reports/view/4466/
>>80588558
https://www.censorbugbear.org/farmitracker/reports/view/4466/
>>80587719
it's a commie gun
>>80592457
This is typical african inventions.. Did you see the videos where they try to build airplanes, they think if it just looks a bit like an airplane it will fly, to heck with aerodynamics and engineering and math and stuff like this..
It's just amazing that instead of attempting to develope something they just do shit like that boldfaced.. to their own government too.. wow.. haha.. how can you even expect to improve your society with only short term "get rich by any way including fraud" kind of thinking..
>>80592257
I wish you all the best, if you have to leave, come to Germany, we need whites.
dear god pol is making me racist as fuck.
well, it does explain the sheer stupidity of the black people I know in my life. The smartest one I know started MBA school at the same time. We both started our businesses at the same time, he failed so monsterously that he had to start robbing people. I think he took a total of 40k (im sure he had to split most of it). Now he is kinda fucked.
I make that a month. Fucking nigger.
>>80592457
Even the fucking animals are laughing at them. What the fuck.
>>80592676
yeah that yellow helicopter dude from zim, and to think he is probably one of the smarter ones...
>>80592292
no, because they don't want to acknowledge what's happening and talk about how great the weather is and how nice having black servants (that hate you steal from you and will slit your throat one day) is. the country is falling apart, people being raped and murdered, whites especially targeted, but they're comfortable behind their electric fencing in security complexes and don't care
>>80576261
yes, I have a letter from the Dutch refugee people saying I would be deported and permanently banned from Europe if I broke the Dublin convention the way the rapefugees have.
They also say "South Africa is officially safe for whites"
This can't be, this literally can't be real, show the letter timestamped
>>80592694
Have some red pills m8.
>>80571804
Of course they're to blame, they should have tried harder to stay when they were being genocided.
>>80593197
>>80574952
Please come here
>>80592502
>>80592457
Uh so I guess no? Even if it's in Afrikaans? Just would like to confirm 100% this individual case. I know it's common in that shithole
>>80576261
I have read somewhere that Armenia and/or Georgia are accepting SA people, especially farmers.
>>80592086
>>80572478
There's an even newer one saying how Zambia has the most bountiful harvest in the country's history thanks to Zimbabwe's white farmers who emigrated.
>>80593040
This
Any south african that has the means to get out yet stays for MUH SERVANTS AND BRAAIS deserves what's coming
>>80593301
>>80592292
It could just as easily be someone who is living carelessly and in revelry.
>>80593040
>people being raped and murdered, whites especially targeted
Do you know that south african whites has a lower murder rate than the baltics? its below 6 per 100 000. Ofc i know the ANC is running this country into the ground. Ofc state corruption has become the norm. But life goes on boy. Enjoy it here. If you dont like it move.
>>80593441
Saffers of /pol/, how accurate is this statement? It came from a friend of mine, a Boer who's family left South Africa in the 1990s after their friends kept getting murdered by kaffirs. We asked him what it was like living in South Africa, and he was one of the ones who's family owned their own farm. He was from Durban, KwaZulu-Natal.
>he said 'most of the blacks are friendly, but you can't tell the difference between the friendly and unfriendly, and a significant enough proportion of them aren't that it's just safer to avoid them entirely
>>80593487
really? better move to SA then
>>80571804
Top fucking Kek
almost 1,000 South African millionaires left the country in 2015
http://businesstech.co.za/news/wealth/113992/why-south-africans-with-money-are-leaving-the-country/
White people do not control SA economy - Moeletsi Mbeki
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/white-people-do-not-control-sa-economy-20160514
SouthAfrica'seconomyshrinks 1.2pc
http://www.businessinsider.com/south-africa-gdp-first-quarter-2016-2016-6
south africa is one-party State
this one party name is ANC
>>80585703
This doc almost made me want to live alongside the chinks as they worked, but they'd tell me to fuck off and get out of their way.
>>80593650
That is pretty true. Those sentiments can run through pretty much every class level as well.
>>80587381
Sounds familiar.
https://youtu.be/6oxfbbzC3PM
>>80593438
Why the fuck do people still need maids and gardeners? As a white person who's had to clean my own shit up, I'll never understand why people would still want servants
>>80576409
And almost all are some kind of communist.
>>80593487
Do you really trust those statistics?
>>80577613
If all our waste degraded like natural things then poor people wouldn't have to live in filth and disease
White people are responsible for inventing non-degradable waste
>>80590657
>Soweto Empowerment Zone
What did they mean by this?
>>80589892
>Sithembile Sthesh Ntshwanti
What a fucking name
I want to visit New Virginia
:c
>>80593903
You're right Kim. The ANC rhetoric is that Whites control the wealth and the key to economic growth is in the transfer of wealth from white to black. Of course this is propaganda.
The wealth is owned by elites who are politically connected, and that includes neoliberal whites (a tiny fraction of the white population) as well as ANC big wig blacks. The average white person only has enough money to sustain their middle class lifestyle, nothing more and nothing less.
>>80587381
This is a good thing though
White people shouldn't give them free shit, it makes them reliant on it
>>80594186
yes. its not government statistics.
>>80593902
come home white man, no commie russian bastards here.
>>80594370
Is this real?
>>80576261
yeah dude, my family on both sides came in the early 1800's. Ancestral visas' only go back like 2 generations or something
>>80593650
most blacks just want to get on with their lives true, but there is a significant mayority who would kill you for a dollar.
>>80594598
*minority
>>80593487
The murder rate in this country is just above 30 per 100 000.
With all the racial hatred in this country do you really think that just 6 of those are whites?
The murder rate for farmers has been found to be as high as 97 per 100 000
>>80594106
It does save time, but it's not worth being killed over
>>80576261
>yes, I have a letter from the Dutch refugee people saying I would be deported and permanently banned from Europe if I broke the Dublin convention the way the rapefugees have.
Just like many of the refugees you speak of though... You would obviously retarded if you attempted the same kind of entry to the Netherlands as well. Were you planning on travelling to Libya, crossing the Mediterranean and then traveling through like 12 safe EU countries to get to the Netherlands? Because that's what the Dublin conventions are about: You need to apply for asylum in the country you arrive. If you just get on a plane to Amsterdam Dublin would require you to apply for asylum in NL.
>They also say "South Africa is officially safe for whites"
Which it problably is, right?
Maybe just try to go for a non-asylum migration route.. Especially now, with the refugee crisis going in full force, trying to go the refugee way might not be ideal, especially not because South Africa is a country that technically has a functioning government. If the Dutch authorties were to contact South Africa, they'd likely confirm your identity and take you back.. The main problem with many Africans illegally migrating into Europe is they either destroy all trace of their identity, or they're from countries like Somalia that have little to no functioning government, and tend not to take people back or even have the capacity to verify if someone is in fact a Somali citizen.
>>80594264
How the fuck Putin has the patience to deal with Zuma at BRICS summits is beyond me.
>>80593040
Do white SJW's exist in South Africa?
I've seen some riots at universities
How bad is racial division in S.A?
>>80585663
>Apartheit in SA and segregation in the US had absolutely no influence on the standards of education, social status and participation in greater society
Ok lad.
>>80594455
Then who published them?
>>80580729
There are very few niggers (comparatively speaking) in CT, so it has always been more liberal than anywhere else
>>80594631
No, you meant write "majority," which is the truth.
>>80594598
That's the problem. Crime happens everywhere, but if you go to London and you get pickpocketed, that's as far as it goes. In SA you'll get threatened with your life for something as stupid as a KFC meal.
In first world countries the criminals are scared of you, but in SA, you're scared of the criminals
>>80594648
farmers are a very vulnerable group i agree. almost 50 farmers are murdered every year in south africa. the same amount of blacks are murdered every day in south africa.
you have to look at facts not listen to drunken ramblings around the bbq fire.
here are some facts from afriforum for you:
>Statistics show that 1747 farm murders and 3542 attacks took place between 1990 and midyear 2015. Out of the 1747 murder victims 1133 were farmers, 465 direct family members, 130 farm workers and 19 visitors. This year alone 27 murders and 116 attacks took place by end of June 2015.
>>80594806
Yeah, all those things were way better when niggers knew their place.
>>80594831
institute of security studies. a harsh critic of our current government
>>80593918
So even the rich blacks hate whites? Typical of niggers to not be able to understand how the world works.
>>80594598
That's pretty much the impression I got from him. His family were a member of that lucky group who had the means to leave the country when it all went to shit. Consequently he hates all blacks, but I couldn't blame him after seeing what they've done to South Africa and Rhodesia. Also most white South Africans and Rhodesians I know see Mandela as a terrorist, which he was. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, look up rubbernecking, I think that's the name for it.
>>80595031
Perhaps.. But those things changed, and denying the residual effects segration and apartheid have had on US and SA societies respectively seems silly.
>>80594999
>40,000,000 Blacks to 2,000,000 Whites
"GUYS YOU'RE WRONG BLACKS HAVE IT WORSE TRUST ME I HAVE A GENDER STUDIES DEGREE BLACK LIVES MATTER"
>>80594786
Yes you do get some righteous white sjw's, but they're a small minority who mostly live in Cape Town. Racial tension had picked up tremendously in the past 5 years, but there never has been racial stability in the first place
>>80595267
4 500 000 whites. And ofc niggers are worse of than us whites, as God intended it to be.
>>80594999
Your stats are useless without ratios.
How does the fact that black people are killed in higher rates than whites improve quality of life here?
The fact is you have a statistically higher chance of being a victim of crime in this country compared to normal white countries.
Just because nigs have it worse here than you doesn't mean you have it better than whites elsewhere
>>80595314
you get a few white sjw on each uni campus, cept potch and bloem lol
>This argument is what most young Dutch people believe
>Mfw you realize that when these people were put for the block and had to choose between their own people and blacks living in poverty, they picked the blacks over their own people
I honestly get depresed some of the days just thinking about my SA brothers out there hated by everyone and only loved by a select group of people that most of the west deems radical.
>>80593487
I would also like to believe this but just look at the difference in murder numbers between Interpol and SAPS. Its off by 50% A difference between 24 000 and 54 000. If the SAPS can be off so much don't you think they may be incorrect with White murder statistics. Ask yourself how many white people you personally know that where murdered? I know of 2 out of a personal network of 600 maybe... work out that stat for South Africa and it is a little bit worrying.
>>80595207
Fucking rich blacks are the worst perpetrators of cultural marxism in this country.
That shit is being pushed through most universities, and the fact that it's easier to get admission if you're black (regardless of income) doesn't help.
>>80595429
you do know we dont live in a normal white country?
>>80595654
I read somewhere recently that most blacks can't even graduate from university anyway? Seems like a colossal waste of money to me, all in the name of 'progress', which is actually regression but these niggers will never be smart enough to understand that.
>>80595429
I don't know why people are nitpicking on crime in SA when it's something that stretches across all racial boundaries. Farmers are getting murdered more than any other profession, but farmers do not equate to the entire white population. The problem in SA is that there is an accepted culture of crime, and it just so happens to be more accepted within black communities
>>80595601
this number doesnt come from police stats. sap doesnt publish the race of victims in any reports.
this comes from research by iss:
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-10-10-are-sa-whites-really-being-killed-like-flies
Yes, it's always white people's fault.
If it's not a white person's fault, then just say that person was actually white.
Where in South Africa should I visit?
Some websites are offering a tour through zululand, zwaziland, johannesburg, drakensbergen, kaapstad, kknysna, east london for 21 days.
Should I do that or just take a plane to Johannesburg and do something else?
Based Boeren, thanks for existing and making us Dutchies remember that we used to have balls long ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt55re8EEbw
>>80595601
Interpol combined both murder and attempted murder figures for South Africa
>>80596039
fly to cape town then rent a car. travel up the east coast up to durban, from there to kruger park for some animals. then take the panorama drive down again to pta and jhb. from there travel back to cpt through the kimberly route through the kalahari.
read this: https://www.tripadvisor.co.za/ShowTopic-g293740-i9186-k7629223-Trip_Report_Post_Trip_Reports_Here-South_Africa.html
>>80592676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU3cy4tPMb4
>>80596389
I can't drive, is public transport doable?
>>80594194
shit is biodegradable too, yet they live surrounded by it.
>>80595804
The Universities (or at least the one I go to) won't publish graduation stats by race.
To be fair the public schooling in this country is horrendous. The pass rate for final year high school exams is like 33% or some shit and most people still fail.
There's a culture among rural blacks where it's okay to fail and drop out of high school. There's no shame in it
>>80595666
>ANC
>Majority black police
>BEE and quotas
>Normal Country
is SA safe?
>>80596545
Cape Town has MiCity buses which are good for traveling within the city. I don't know what other cities have besides Kaffir taxis.
>>80572185
What's it like being white in South Africa?
Is it safe? Are whites really being mass murdered?
>>80596545
thats a pity. a tour group is your best bet then.
>>80596771
Ask a white guy from Detroit and he'll give you a similar answer. Murders and crime affect blacks far more than whites, but it doesn't mean we aren't affected by it. We have walls and 10000 gates for a reason.
>>80595484
I went to Rhodes, its a SJW fuckpit
