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>ETERNAL THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmwqEg-06Ww

>TALKS BETWEEN LABOUR AND TORY BLAIRITES ABOUT FORMING THEIR OWN PARTY
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/10/talks-about-forming-new-pro-eu-centrist-party-reported-at-westmi/

>PRO-BREXIT LEADSOM V PRO-REMAIN MEDIA-BACKED MAY WAR CONTINUES
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/10/andrea-leadsom-camp-hits-back-motherhood-row-theresa-may

>ANGELA EAGLE: "C-CORBYN STOP!!! THAT'S IT, I W-WARNED YOU, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL THE WRATH OF THE BLAIRITES"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36756975

>UKIP IS FINISHED - PAUL NUTTALL DROPS OUT OF THE LEADERSHIP RACE, NIGGER OR WOMAN SET TO REPLACE HIM AND "RID THE PARTY OF RACISTS, SEXISTS AND HOMOPHOBES"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3682752/Who-ll-end-Cult-Nigel-m-woman-UKIP-s-best-known-female-politician-says-party-shed-chauvinist-image.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36756379

>LIB DEM MEMBERSHIP 'SURGES' AFTER BUMBLASTED REMAINERS FLOCK TO THEM IN DROVES
http://leftfootforward.org/2016/07/lib-dems-hit-their-highest-membership-in-a-decade-why-are-thousands-signing-up/

>THE CHILCOTT REPORT - THE MAIN POINTS
http://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/chilcott-report---the-main-points

>THE MAD MULLAH PLANS TO RELEASE A FILM ABOUT TONY THE BLOOD GOD'S IRAQ SLAUGHTER
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jul/07/the-killing-of-tony-blair-review-george-galloway-chilcot-iraq

>PETER HITCHENS ON SUNDAY: LEAVE BLAIR ALONE, YOU'RE ALL TO BLAME
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

>MENTAL MCDONNELL SEES THE GHOST OF THATCHER WHEN HE STARES DOWN INTO HIS TOILET BOWL
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/john-mcdonnell-remembers-lambeth-revolt/

>MORE FALSE FLAGGING IN POST-BREXIT BRITAIN AS LEFTY SLIME FAKE BNP LEAFLETS
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36662887
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Do you actually believe in FPTP or are you memeing?
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>>80522835
Well that app rates me the same as a May/Crow hybrid, I may spiral into depression now chaps
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>>80522575
>You're kidding yourself if you think we're not a hell of a lot better off than the EUcucks

You misunderstand me , i see that the EU is fucked and its one of the main reasons i voted leave , we can sit on our island and watch
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Anyone but May
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Want the ride to end now tbqh lads, I want to get off, I want to be calm again
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What's his name again?
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>>80522625
He makes a strong case for it I suppose. The coalition problem alone would make the whole thing a pain in the ass.

Problem is we have 2 entrenched parties which are rotten to the core and we can't do much about it.
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>post yfw she will stab the scots in the back and they will be eternally cucked by england until their land crumbles to dust
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>>80523034
okay i got you. also we need to

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This thread is SHILL.
op is a fag.


OP IS A FAG.


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>>80523139
Al-Blair
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>>80522990
Nobody would claim it's perfect but PR is a horrible disaster, imagine literally never being able to get rid of an MP because they're at the top of their party's list and so on, and the comparisons between UKIP now and the state of Labour in the early 1900s seems to be an apt one, and we didn't have to get rid of PR then

UKIP and ultimately the country will suffer in the long term if we scrap FPTP because no genuinely conservative party is ever going to get more than 50% of the national vote, and it would never be able to do what has to be done to save Britain as part of a shit rainbow coalition with other (((centre)))-"right" parties
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>>80523263
didn't have to get rid of FPTP then*
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>>80522990
He supports FPTP because Peter Hitchens does.
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>>80523263
great argument desu
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>>80523263
> imagine literally never being able to get rid of an MP

To be fair, this is already the case now. They get put in safe seats.
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>>80523201
Except they aren't cucked by England anyway. Nice try.
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Reminder that May as leader will be the end of Conservative party.

May is the best choice long term
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>>80522990
OP IS A SHILL FAG.

This is officially a shill thread.

UKIP is far from dead.

UKIP needs support the most right now, as Liberal Democrats membership surge.

SAGE AND HIDE SHILL THREADS
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>>80523263
Just to add to this, sure if we had PR now we would get some UKIP seats, but what if some ultra-cuck party comes along and also does well.
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>>80523453
Like Ed Balls and Michael Portillo were? It CAN happen. I'm not saying it's extremely likely, but it's way, way likelier than if PR were in place
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>>80523263
What about instant runoff?
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>>80523467
You're right, England picks up the slack from their massive deficit because they're shit at producing, that's why the EU don't want them lmao.
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>>80523138
Calm is what you feel as the knife enters.
Fuck calm.
Kill the intruder.
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>>80523201
As a scot, I fucking hate Nicola Sturgeon.
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>>80523538
Portillo happened in the biggest landslide for a century
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>>80523263
Has there been any serious comparison between UKIP and Labour or Labour and the Liberals? Would be interested to read.
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>>80523521
May is just a continuation of the conservative party. Leadsom might actually change it, especially if the centerists actually quit to ally with Labour's ones.
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>>80522625
>>80522589
WORDS OF WISDOM FROM TRIPFAG.

Except YET AGAIN it's copy and pasted from Peter Hitchens Blog - mail On Sunday 7 May 2015.

FFS

Can't you think for yourself?
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>>80523714
I hate the SNP in general, but I had some degree of respect for Salmond. Sturgeon is just a stupid cow.
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>>80523263
What about the kike's system where they vote for parties and people separately?
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>>80523263
>we should continue to use outdated voting system because it currently is advantageous to Conservatives

Fuck off.

See what happened in Canada when the conservatives fractured.

13 FUCKING YEARS of continuous Liberal rule.
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Single Transferable Vote (STV) is objectively the best form of voting.

Instead of plebs going to the ballot and marking an X next to the candidate they want, they rank the candidates in order of preference (1 being the most preferred). When the votes are counted, the candidate with the lowest number of votes is eliminated and their votes are redistributed amongst the remaining candidates. This continues until a candidate has secured at least 50% of the vote.

STV will provide voters the opportunity to actually vote for a candidate they like instead of voting against a candidate they hate (see: tactical voting). Also it will give legitimacy and a mandate to the candidate who wins because they would have secured a majority of the constituency's support.

Demorality man would also be pleased with STV because it retains FPTP's function of being able to throw out politicians. If anything, it is far more effective at throwing out unpopular politicians because the majority of the constituency can rally around a candidate to deny an incumbent. For example, an unpopular candidate can win a seat with only 40% of the vote while 60% hate that candidate but are split amongst the other candidates.

STV is superior and you're a pleb for still believing in FPTP.
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>>80523581
That's another thing, no fucker will ever be able to decide on what special snowflake voting system we'll have if FPTP was to face the axe

>>80523533
Not to mention what has happened in places like Sweden and France where their versions of Labour and the Tories happily gang up against the Front Nationale/Swedish Democrats in post-election coalitions, it's a trap


>>80523743
I think some are drawn in Matthew Goodwin(and some other person)'s book "Revolt on the Right", though much of that information would be out of date by now


>>80523830
He literally asked what Peter Hitchens' opinion on it was you fucking pleb

>>80523864
I mean conservatives, not Conservatives you daft leaf
Here there's no difference between the two so why all the fuss?
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Leadsom on the London riots

>some of these young thugs literally lack a properly developed 'human' part of their brain - they lack the brain capacity to restrain their anger and to feel empathy for others.

Oh my fuck
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>>80523830
I asked why Hitchens disagreed with PR. He gave me Hitchens' exact argument about it.
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Are you guys ready for the next financial collapse that is caused by brexit and that will lead to fiat currency collapse. It will be 10 times worse than the great depression and 20 times worse in the uk. Your gdp will shrinl by 30% due to hyperinflation and negative interest rates. All stocks will go down 60% and ftse 70% and dow 80%. The whole system will crash there will be no 4chan or international trade for 3 days. And the imf will call for an emergancy meeting with the g20 nations and agreeing on a world currency and a global exchange rate mechanism, which one step closer to a eorld government. Brexit wall planned all along with the elite. The eu was for bank regulation and was anti anglo elite. Thanks a lot brexitters for causing a financial doom.
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I really want to get a job in the gubmint.

Anyone have experience with faststream?

Only need a 2.2 as well.
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>>80523870
Is this method practiced anywhere?
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>>80523992
I'm not keen on her constant psychological and neurobiological posturing, her inability to accept that people do bad things because man is naturally wicked and needs deterrents to stop him from doing bad things, especially as a Christian, is a bit weird

At the Tory Conference she ended up rambling and talking about massaging babies' frontal cortexes or something like that
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>>80523939
Instant runoff would be the same as the current system except you wouldn't have to vote tactically.
Not a huge fan of CGP Grey, but he has a decent video on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE
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>>80523992
This needs to be out prime minister
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>>80523695
these guys are really good, cant believe ive never listened to them before
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>>80524124

Nobody cares what you think
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>>80523830
>>80523994
"On my last visit to Cairo I was shown the shabby but central building which still houses the headquarters of the Nasserite party", yeah I was actually trying to pretend that that was fucking me, pal
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>>80523992
She's perfect
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>>80524016
Eurozone will crash harder. We might not even crash but if we do it would be worth it.
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>>80523992
hahahhaha based.
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>>80524101
I think it's used for the Northern Ireland Assembly
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>>80524101
The shitposters use a variation of it down under I believe
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>>80524195
He's right though, she clearly doesn't actually know very much about psychology.
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>>80524016
>the swede
>knowing anything

The most you know about the world is that your wife is getting fucked by black cock.
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>>80523870
>Single Transferable Vote (STV) is objectively the best form of voting.

lol, no. STV is designed to get centrists in power and would guarantee that no meaningful change ever happened, and a party like UKIP would never stand a chance.

MMP and FPTP are the only worthwhile voting systems (although I'll admit that I used to believe in the Range Voting/Approval voting meme and it has some benefits).
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>>80524432
>she clearly doesn't actually know very much about psychology

That's it, I'm going to the #MayBay now
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Will he finally rise up to defeat Corbachov?
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>>80523992

She may as well call herself anti-degeneracy and be done with it
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>>80524124

Different ways of expressing the same thing, being anti-neuroscience is retarded. Having said that she does seem to pull stuff out of her arse rather than having any real knowledge.
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>>80524237
>replying to the same post twice
>implying you have not been caught out plagiarising before
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>>80524583
Many UKIP supporters vote Tory to keep Labour out. Under STV, they could put UKIP as their first choice and Tory as their second.
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Is Corbyn going to be automatically on the leadership ballot or not? I keep hearing conflicting sources. Would be fun to see him take it to court and bankrupt his own party.
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>>80524016
remember what happened the last time a western nation went through hyper inflation
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>>80524594
Kek, I'm just saying that as someone who claims to be a Christian, i.e. believes in Original Sin, claiming that people who do bad things have some sort of mental defect is a very very clinical left-wing view of crime, obviously she's still the best candidate by a country mile

>>80524764
Nobody is quite sure yet
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>>80524764
Unless he drops out, then yes he'll be on the ballot
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>>80522390

I've seen about 4 or 5 on brit/pol/ alone. We ought to have another meetup some time.
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>>80524832
Not all Christians are literalists
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>>80524762
And when ukip lose all their votes go Tory. Likewise any minor leftist party's votes go labour. Tighter hold.
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>>80524764
A few weeks ago somebody posted a tweet from a journalist whose paper had a barrister look into the rules and they showed the letter of advise. The barrister said Corbyn has to be on the ballot as the incumbent because his duty to step down once he loses the support of the PLP is only a convention, not an enshrined rule.
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How many of you went to church this morning?
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top kek at these remainers that booed Cameron.
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>>80524937
I left Edinburgh March last year, I'm /merseyside/ now
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>>80524950
I suppose. It does seem to be a very Mumsnetty apple pie sort of Christianity coming from her sometimes
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>>80524997
Me
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>>80524997
In sligo on Holiday though
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>>80524997

>tfw can't make myself believe

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>>80524832
m8 original sin is not an excuse for sins committed later in life
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>>80523830
The British political system is all well and good in practice, but it doesn't work in theory
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Every thread. Every DAMNED thread this YKTD faggot shitposter comes here and completely ruins everything. Every day, starting at the same time and lasting for the same length. It's actually a routine for the cretin. With the same phrases, the same reaction pics, and the same incessant shitposting. He ACTUALLY believes that he's some kind of intellectual, on par with his idol Peter Hitchens aka Morality Man. It amazes me just how much he parrots the same rhetoric and opinions. The only times where he deviates from the Hitchens line is when he goes full autism against the Jews or something.

You know what separates you -a worthless sack of shit- from the Hitch? Talent. He is a skilled orator and writer, who's featured all across the globe in GENUINE media outlets. While you do nothing but wank off to some cesspool, and with illusions of grandeur believe that there is any point to a single thing you post. He has actually experienced the world, has lived in history. Whereas you experience nothing but the world through a computer screen in some, dark, dank, bestial place where I hope to never find myself.

Please, for the sake of all of us. GO. Fuck off NOW. Tripfags are distilled autism and a cancer to this site. I have no illusion that I'm wasting my time, but at least I'm not as pathetic you are, you dull cunt.

I can already sense you raging, having to rotate your body 90' to slam the keyboard with your turbo flid stub arms. Needless doubt that your shit rebuke will contain some of your canned buzzwords, as you scream FUCKING BLAIRITES REEEEE IMMORAL REEEE in the basement of your parents window.
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>>80525176
Maybe these digits will help you.
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>>80524762
>Many UKIP supporters vote Tory to keep Labour out. Under STV, they could put UKIP as their first choice and Tory as their second.

UKIP (or any similar party) would still never get anywhere near 50%. Take South Thanet as an example. Farage came close to beating the LibLabCon, but the entire campaign was "stop UKIP", with Labour/Lib Dem voters pretty much admitting to voting Tory en masse to stop UKIP. So where do you think all their second preference votes would go.

There are a lot memes about STV (or AV) helping smaller parties, but it's pretty much agreed amongst academics that it tends towards a 2 party system even more quickly and definitely than FPTP.
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>>80525326
Shit, guess I'm an atheist now.
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the good electoral system in PR with bonus seats for the first party. I think Italy and Greece have something like that.

25 % or smth of the seats are automatically given to the first party, the rest is allocated with PR. This way you have a possible majority for the first party if it is strong enough and small and medium parties have some representation.
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Tomorrow she announces her leadership bid.

Are we ready? What is even the best outcome, Corbyn winning and 2 labour parties forming? Each one worse off than lib dems.
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>>80525260
this is the same poster as >>80525109
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>>80525230
It's should never be an excuse at all, surely. I only mean it in the sense of the belief that mankind is born naturally selfish and bad, which is a lot easier to convince people of when religion's backing it up, or else they'll naturally drift towards utopian ideas that will make them feel better about themselves than this 'cold hard reality' one

>>80525351
>Farage came close to beating the LibLabCon, but the entire campaign was "stop UKIP"
Pic related, it was a disgrace
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>>80525521
I can't see a split happening. The best outcome is Eagle winning and becoming the new Miliband.
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>>80524997
Thought I'd probably be most welcome, I'd feel guilty for being an atheist.

I feel like one day all our churches - due to being practically empty - will be sold off or converted into mosques and rapefugee shelters. I want to at least help keep up numbers but I can't do it without feeling like a cunt.
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>>80525521
>we could have a female pm and female leader of opposition
>and a female yank president

end times
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>>80523939
>I think some are drawn in Matthew Goodwin(and some other person)'s book "Revolt on the Right", though much of that information would be out of date by now
Thank, will investigate
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>>80523263
It'll also destroy our unique Parliamentary democracy. We need to maintain our traditions. Referendums are bad enough.
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>>80524016
Swede, can't you at least be a decent troll? You're rubbish at it. Far too obvious.
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>>80525768
And female UKIP leader. Pretty sure Lib dems leader is a girl too.
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>>80525768
>Angela Eagle
>Leanne Wood
>Nicola Sturgeon
>Natalie Bennett
>Theresa May
>Hillary
>Merkel
>Suzanne Evans
>Tina Farron

God help us
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>>80525816
>Referendums are bad enough.

Agree. The EU is just about the only subject on which I consider a referendum permissible, because our parliamentary system had been overtaken by quislings and hence cucked itself to an outside power, and we had to sort that out.
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Why do absolute fucking mongoloids keep spouting that if we don't activate article 50 by next March we can't leave the EU?
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>>80525875
Evans isn't getting in, and Farron is a man.
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>>80525971
Let it end
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>>80525971
God, game of thrones has come true
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>>80523992
i really, really fucking hope that Leadsom wins. Britain would literally be saved, next up FRANCE, followed by the rest of Europe.

Now, USA.. I think you're fucked either way. I shed a tear for you every night.
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Anybody here like to sit in public galleries at crown court and look at dindus getting rekt by the barrister and judge?
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>>80523139

Anthony Blair
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french cucks btfo
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>>80522835
The current situation with Labour kinda cements how out of touch Labour are with their voters

>Corbyn is elected by party members and voters
>year later MPs insist on Corbyns exile from the party because the general public and party members didn't pick who they wanted to pick
>several resign from the shadow cabinet, letting down the people further
>Corbyn maintains high popularity with voters
>they don't see ANY problem with this conduct
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Here's one thing I was thinking about the other day.

If I recall correctly, in order for a town to officially become a city, it requires a cathedral. However, due to the declining figures in both Christianity as a whole and especially Church attendance, no new cathedrals need to be built.

So how will towns become cities in the future? The current levels of church attendance do not warrant more cathedrals to be built, and in the future it's going to be even worse. Will they have to change the law so they do not require cathedrals in future?
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>>80525816
I agree with referendums on major constitutional changes like the EU. We should have had one before signing the treaty of Rome, and the public should have been made aware of the constitutional implications of it. It was presented as a better EFTA. We might never have joined had the public been told about the loss of sovereignty involved and the true purposes of the project.
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>>80526092
I've never done this, is it quite straight forward? you just turn up to court one day and they let you in?
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>farron
>man
Come on
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WHY THE FUCK CANT I GET A GF??!

WHY?!
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>>80526171
Labour and Conservative both need a reality check, Labour more so.
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>>80526012
I read elsewhere that allegedly other countries will need to approve article 50 soon, have no idea if this is true or not, could be bullshit
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>>80525642
>Pic related, it was a disgrace

Thanks for reminding us, YKTD.

By the way, do you have any strong preference between Mixed Member Proportional (MMP - essentially FPTP with a proportional element in addition, see Wiki for more info) and FPTP? Aside from tradition, of course. If I can get you in the MMP shill club here I think we can really start to convert people.
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>>80526248
Because you are ugly and worthless
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French hopes Blownaparte
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Also, reposting from old thread as it stimulates discussion.

Anybody reading/recently read any books? Specifically books relating to British politics, history, economics or even religion.

Recently finished reading The Rage Against God by Peter Hitchens. Currently reading a fiction book, afterwards I shall be reading a book about the Peasants' Revolt (1381). After that I'll probably read The Broken Compass by Peter Hitchens.

>>80526181
Yeah, as the other poster said a referendum on issues such as continued EU member is acceptable.
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>>80525521
Andrew Neil asked her for policy differences between her and Corbyn and she couldn't give any.
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Frogs blown the fuck out
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>>80526248
You should have sign up for Corbyn's "Free GF for NEETs" project.
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>>80526092

how does one go about doing this?
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>>80526175
Here's some light reading for you anon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_status_in_the_United_Kingdom
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>>80526248
Lack of confidence,
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>>80526175
You can also be made a city by royal decree
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>>80526220
yeah, just empty your pockets at the metal detector, then look at the screen which trials are going on and pick one to go to. You can see the accused name, so try picking a sand nigger or nigger name if you can for maximum keks.

Generally starts at 10:30am in the morning.

Just don't go in straight away when the court usher says you can go in, or you might get mistaken as the accused, which can be awkward. Wait for a minute, or don't be the first one in.
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>>80526384
When was this? Sunday politics?
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>>80526175
That isn't an official rule. Brighton's a city without a cathedral, Bury St Edmunds is a town with a cathedral.
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>>80525521
>Corbyn wins
>Leadsom wins
>Blairites get butthurt and form their own party
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>>80526386
>>80526316
What is going on
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>>80526514
This is the dream.
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>>80526175
I hear the Jocks going on about Brechin being a city because of its Cathedral, but I've also heard that that's wrong and the Jocks are just blowing their usual bollocks
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>>80526540
They're 1-0 down to Portugal in the football
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>>80526284
Where is the evidence? In another thread some spastic replied with a grauniad article about the deadline for referendum campaign groups to sign up with the electoral commission this year like it was proof
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>>80526540
Euro Final
Portugal 1 - France 0
only a few minutes left
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>>80526448
I got to sit in on a salford murder trial, it was pretty boring, some fueding bellends meet at a party or something, group of lads and a couple of girls all beat and stabbed a guy to death.

It wasn't nearly as interesting as it sounds.
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>>80526355
Spoilt Rotten!: The Toxic Cult of Sentimentality by Theodore Dalrymple

Reading a chapter where he discusses 'Family Impact Statements' (Letting a killed person's family members read out a statement in court to the people on trial) and how they're abhorrent to the idea of justice because they inevitably contain things like "He was a good man, a loving father" and so on, which implies that going around killing worthless hobos who nobody loves is a morally permissible thing

>>80526301
I'll look into it
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>>80526594
Ironically, they'd rather leave than stay in and reform the parties from the inside :^)
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>>80524997
what does church actually do, in a /pol/ context?
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>>80526607
OUR OLDEST ALLY BLOWING FRANCE THE FUCK OUT!
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>>80526425
The truth. Good thing is most people tend to get more confident as they get older, so there's a chance for yet.
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Just got back from watching the tennis in London lads, was funny as fuck when Sturgeon got cucked by Cameron.

Andy Murray completely ignored her when she was having her turkey wings at him when he won.
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akakkakakakaka

get fucked france, greatest ally strikes again
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>>80526776
What do you mean by that?
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>>80526751
I'm sick of those he was good boy statements, see it all the time when some absolute twat i went to school with OD's and dies, they were huge twats who made decent people miserable let's get it right.
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>>80526753
Their problem is that others are reforming the parties from the inside, purging cuckoldry.
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>>80525971
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>>80526937
The "don't speak ill of the dead" mantra is blown up to the extreme in obituaries
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>>80526479
Yes mate, this morning.
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>>80526355
>Reading Peter Hitchens books

He records the audio books of them himself, mate - listen instead!
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>>80526937
Try to see the good in people anon.
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Lads, my GF just asked if we could call a potential future child Enoch after I red pilled her

I would be on board, but it sounds so god damn Jewish, what do?
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Moggy should record audio books.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZSC_Z65pKE
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>>80526303

FUCK OFF CUNT
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>>80526780
hilarious!
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>>80527117
>He records the audio books of them himself
I would advise against this in the case of "A Brief History of Crime" and "The War We Never Fought" since there are loads of full-page criminal statistics throughout, I would imagine the impact wouldn't be as great if you couldn't see them on paper
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>>80526751
I remember you mentioning the Spoiled Rotten book a few days back, and it sounded interesting. I'll have to check it out once my current pile of books have been fully read.
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>>80527117
>He records the audio books of them himself

Pretty good
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>>80524997
I tried a couple of years ago, but I didn't feel it.
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Who else /Staffordshire/ here?
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>>80527248
Use it as a middle name if you're not all that fond of it.
And Jewish names are fine if they're from the Bible.
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FRENCH TEARS
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TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>80526788
It was fucking hilarious that he made mention of dave and his work but not even an acknowledgement of the fish woman.
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>>80527388

Boring county below Based Cheshire, aren't you just a bit of land the M6 goes through?
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>>80527388
My cousin's from Burton.
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>>80527321
The feels don't matter Anon. Did Jesus Christ rise from the dead, or didn't he? Look at the facts.
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Based Oldest Ally, I will buy a fine bottle of port with the £48 I have just won from Betfair.
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>>80526479
>>80527092
This was her response to a direct question about it:

"My parents, my mum a seamstress my dad a printer, were prevented from fulfilling their opportunities.

"Because we had Labour Governments I was able to fulfill mine. I want a Labour Government that can deliver that. Jeremy doesn't talk about that."
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>>80527520
Remember when that knob Salmond came down and started waving Saltires around behind the Queen around jock referendum time?

Mfw iPhone kept trying to autocorrect Saltire to Saltier
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>>80527117
Nice, I wish Starkey read more of his audiobooks, Monarchy is comfy as fuck with him reading it to you.
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>>80527248

>not having a daughter and naming her Adolf

fucking casuals
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>>80527388
oatcakes are alright
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Why the fuck are there so many moths
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Anyone have that Peter Hitchens quote about his brother fucking a girl while he stands there autisticly?
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>>80527768
I tend to zone out during audio books, prefer to read, allows you to more easily stop and think on what you've just read
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>>80527287

Is The War We Never Fought worth reading? Will definitely check A Brief History of Crime out sometime, but not sure if I can be bothered to read an entire book of his thoughts on drugs. (Thankfully, I don't think he's got an audio book of either of these, so nobody will make the mistake).

Also, our friend above mentioned he was going to read "Broken Compass". Can you enlighten us on how different "The Cameron Delusion" is from this (as apparently it's just an "updated" version), and if it's worth upgrading if you only have the old one?
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>>80527864
EU free movement senpai
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>>80527938
No. Leave Hitchey alone.
Also, what the fuck is that webm?
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>>80527938
delete this
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>>80527966
I listen to them while I walk my dog. Makes the time go quicker.
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>>80527938
How the hell do I watch webm on iPhone
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>>80528114
Don't think you can.
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>>80528114
You don't want to anyway, it's some bitch getting lit fags pressed onto her face.
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>>80524997
I did. I'd been living abroad and only recently returned to the UK. Decided to visit my old church for Sunday Mass. The old white Scottish priest was gone. The new priest is Kenyan. He sings and claps his hands. Complains about how we're all too quiet. Literally used the good Samaritan as an excuse to preach about immigration policy.

Next Sunday I'll get up early and take the train to the nearest Tridentine Mass instead.
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>>80526731
I sat on one trial where a dindu was caught with £8000 of heroin, cocaine and a machete. Guy wasn;t found guilty though somehow.

And another where this guy that looked a lot like Joseph Fritzl was found guilty of raping their step daughters when they were between 5-11 years old.

The guy was pure evil. Could literally feel the presence of evil in that room, whereas in the dindu trial the barristers and judge seemed to be a bit bored.
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>>80527864
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>>80527968
Absolutely

Of all his books - The Abolition of Britain which tackles the 1960s cultural revolution, A Brief History of Crime which focuses on, er, crime, The Cameron Delusion which focuses on the Tories and Blairism, and The Rage Against God which tackles some atheist arguments - none of them do a better job of absolutely blowing the FUCK out of the issues they cover than The War We Never Fought does with drugs. It is deservedly Hitchens' most controversial book (for now - shit will hit the fan when he publishes his next one about WWII)

The Cameron Delusion is identical to The Broken Compass, only with more chapters, no point in buying the older version

>>80527938
>
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>>80528114
Just tap it

Hahahahah

Android mustard race
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>>80527938
what is happening there?

who is she?ç
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>>80528114

Download VLC app
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>>80527248
Oswald
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>>80527531
NO!!! (...yes)
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>>80527938
Why?
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>>80528299
Iktf. No nignogs thankfully, but our new minister goes in for all that happy clappy shit.
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>>80528351
>whereas in the dindu trial the barristers and judge seemed to be a bit bored.

Just imagine how many times they have to listen to a case like that. That Judge had probably tried the dindu before too. Probably crushes your will.
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>>80528532
Because man is fundamentally wicked
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>>80526012
Cause their dumb lazy cunts who cba to check it out and see that it's bullshit
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>>80527966

I used to find this but I've gotten absolutely addicted to audiobooks and podcasts lately. Getting through a book over a few nice walks feelsgoodman
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>>80528448
It's a Brazilian lesbian getting punished by her girlfriend for cheating with a man.
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>>80527938
>this is my fetish
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>>80528640

Fuck off Hitchenite cuck.
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>>80528629
yeah I imagine he's a regular.
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>>80526284
It's bullshit
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>>80528712
Why's she just sitting there and taking it?
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I just want to know who our next PM is fucks sake

Maybe then I can stop browsing /pol/ all day
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>>80528712
she is hot
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>>80528739
Be proud
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>>80528749
this
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>>80528695
I work security, and I'm trying to listen to Simon Schmas history of Britain but I find myself forgetting half of what he's just said
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>>80528837
She's a bottom.
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>>80528299
this is kinda what my experience was like, taking time out of a remembrance sunday service to praise diversity. It doesn't help when the priest is very uninspiring.
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>>80527938
Why was this necessary? Fucking sadists.
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>>80528937

Making a few light notes as you go along gets you in the right frame of mind very quickly, if you don't feel like too much of an autist
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>>80529044
Really? I attended remembrance in Edinburgh and every there they didn't pull that
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>>80528856
BOYS IT'S A SHINY
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>>80523538
Ed Balls wasn't in a safe seat
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>>80528839
Remember that you're here forever.
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>>80526220
Yeah mate, I saw part of the Lee Rigby case once when I was going past the Old Bailey and had a few hours to kill.
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That referrendum result still makes me feel fucking invincible lads
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>>80529180
I live in one of those northern towns that got hit hard by immigration, but yeah makes it worse when none of our lovely diverse friends actually attend these ceremonies.
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>>80523837
>I hate the SNP in general, but I had some degree of respect for Salmond. Sturgeon is just a stupid cow.


Salmond had one foot in genuine nationalism because he's a man

All Sturgeon cares about is open borders and virtue signalling
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>>80529187
I think private polling for the Labour Party suggested that it was at the time and that Balls was actually popular in his constituency
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>>80529335
Wow, I was angry enough about the guy selling white Poppy's.

>>80529170
Could do, I found I tend to focus a bit more if I'm doing something mindless like drawing on my phone
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>>80529363
Why should sturgeon care about open door immigration not even the immigrants want to live in Scotland only had 8000 in 2015 while England had about 300k
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>>80529247
want to feel better about yourself, germanic?
hahahah
you didnt created civilization

you just made invented some thing as many people did
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>>80525176
Shouldn't do m8

Christians 2000 years ago were basically identicle to Muslims invading Europe today

Christianity isn't European and it isn't British, it's middle-eastern.
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Brexit was caused by the adventurous City of London faction (the other faction is pro-EU)

The UK in a Sino-Anglo alliance will stab the West in the back
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>>80529598
I sort of sympathize with the white poppy stuff desu. I'm not a pacifist, but both world wars were completely unnecessary and helped make England the mess it is today.
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>>80528937
He's a jew. And a left wing one at that.
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>>80529726
>Why should sturgeon care about open door immigration not even the immigrants want to live in Scotland only had 8000 in 2015 while England had about 300k

It's about the appearance of being open to the world

Salmond = older nationalist faction

Sturgeon = also part of the newer progressive politics faction
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Can someone explain to be the reason why free movement of people is so important to the EU?

I know of theories like the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan, but I'm not getting at that angle. I mean, how do THEY sell it to the people that it is so intrinsically important to have that if you want to be in the single market?
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>>80529773
Christianity knows no borders, it was given to humanity by God to be spread throughout every nation.
European paganism was barbaric and should be left in the past.
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>>80529857
the poppy is not about the fighting, it's about the lives lost. The white poppy to me seems like a cry for attention rather than a political statement.

The red poppy has never been "I agree with the reason for WW1" it has always been "I respect the men who fought and died their country and"

I'm an ex military man myself as my farther and grandfather before me, and all of us see it as dragging attention away from the men who died and onto yourself
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>>80527263
I love this guy. 2nd after Nigel.

It's like everything he says is prose.
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>>80529734
>non country posting near me
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>>80529857
Read Gary Sheffields book Forgotten Victory for another perspective.
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>>80530026
Yeah I know, but he covers a lot. I'm able to separate opinion sections from history quite easily
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>>80530102
They want an eventual super state, so they can't have border controls
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>>80529247
We made history lad.

We got our country back.
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>>80530120
Islam knows no borders, it was given to humanity by Allah to be spread throughout every nation.

European paganism was strong on honour, traditions and family. Also early Christians were pretty fucking barbaric (like muslims today) when it came to stamping out Europes native religion, paganism.
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>>80530102
>how do THEY sell it to the people

they haven't needed to.
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>>80530282
Remember that bias can pervade every aspect of a narrative.
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>>80530311
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>>80530219
fuck you, you are still a germanic pig and you wish to be really relevant, its the media that help you, forcing you onto other people

you are still the same subhuman pig pillaging and destroying everything
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>>80530397
B-but he said on the telly he voted remain.
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>>80530347
>European paganism was strong on honour, traditions and family.
So is Christianity, but it doesn't say we should sacrifice people to a hundred made-up gods.
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>>80530394
He's not that bad, he does get biased obviously towards Edward I, but that's expected
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>>80530518
He says a lot of things
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>>80530456
My right honorable friend, I do believe your opinion is irrelevant in this chamber.
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>>80530456
Go for a swim dude
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiJa9diJOMk

subtle redpill lads, enjoy this
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How's Sally Bercow getting on lads?
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How you holding up brit/pol/?
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>>80530532
I notice you haven't been able to refute the comparison of Christianity and Islam. Paganism is hardly known for human sacrifice.
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>>80530456
>non country gets mad near me
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>>80530847
This was my life in the uni years
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>>80530766
BLACKED.com
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