LABOR CONCEDES DEFEAT
PEOPLE TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE FUCK A MODERN DEMOCRACY TAKES 8 DAYS TO COUNT VOTES
>>80446177
Yeah it's all over for Labor. See you guys in 3 years!
>>80446177
Seriously though, why did it take so long to count votes?
>>80449301
because the government is in charge of it and they take forever to do anything
>>80449301
because smoggo cunt
seriously though rumour is the AEC fucked up the preferences, something about not counting the preferences above the line if there was more than one but less than six
>>80446177
4 more years 4 more years, suck it you left wing communist knob gobbling rump rangers
>>80446177
>>80449301
It always takes this long to fully count all the ballots including the postal votes.
It's just that normally its a lot clearer who the winner is within a few hours of counting.
It was a lot closer this time
>>80446177
That was close bros. I thought we had lost you for a moment there.
Welcome back
>>80450096
a) Elections are every 3 years
b) This is an awful result for Libs. They'll have a razor thin majority in the house, an even more hostile senate than they had last time (Which is why Mal called the election in the first place) and likely the worst economic conditions in 25 years
The "Stability" and "Jobs and Growth" angles are going to come back to fuck the libs when politics and the economy are the worst in decades over the next 3 years
Except Labor to win 90 seats next election easy
>>80450463
nuh uh, labor has been voted down like a smelly turd for the last two elections. Australia won't be so forgiving about the debt you retards forced upon their children and grand children.
>>80446177
>MODERN DEMOCRACY
>implying this is anything other than a 2 party zionist puppet show.
>implying they were actually counting when the only reason they let it run 8 days was to give the impression to the goy that their vote matters.
You have a big night mate?
Aussies don't spell labor "labour?"
Vote for Katter you cunts.
>>80450738
>Australia won't be so forgiving about the debt you retards forced upon their children and grand children.
I cringe every time I hear this meme
What's the status of bullet trains?
>>80450880
We do in general but the party's name is spelt the American way.
>>80450880
We do but the party dropped the u so they could try to suck up to the US.
>>80450738
I don't support Labor I'm just telling you the truth
Also the deficit has only gotten worse under Liberals
>B-but Labor started the mess
The first structural deficits happened under Howard. Labor inherited a structurally unsound hollowed out corpse of an economy from Howard that looked like It was booming because of mining. They never addressed the problems, but they also didn't create them. Mining has now started to taper and everyone can see what Australia is really like.
>>80446177
Speaking of votes, what happened inn Austria?
>>80446177
FUCK YEAH!
Can't wait for medicare to be privatized, the dollar to drop in value even more, the deficit to rise, the GST threshold to be removed from international shopping and for even more health and education funding to be cut.
>>80450941
Greens and Bullet Train for Australia want it.
Liberal and Labor kick it down the road when they're in government.
I don't know the positions of other parties on a bullet train but probably the right wing meme squad parties would be against it.
We could chimp out like Austria and demand another election. Except I couldn't be bothered to vote a second time. It's not like brexit
>>80451180
Shouldn't you be prepping the bull for your wife right about now?
The real question is who will the Liberals replace Turnbull with within the next year?
Explain to your American overlords what just happened in this election.
Sooo.. Is this good or bad?
>>80450941
Everyone wants one, but nobody is prepared to face the fact that it'll cost money.
Despite that creating debt to invest in infrastructure is a good use of money and good for the economy, instead of creating debts to give back to people in the form of gibmedats.
Both major parties suck at investing in infrastructure and only want to give people dole money or tax cuts for businesses.
>>80451401
Tony Abbott probably
>>80451473
Quite shit, regardless if you're a Labor cuck or a Liberal retard.
A close parliament like this means we're going to have 3 more years of stagnation as the parliament is dominated by squabbling and horse-trading with independents to pass bills.
>>80451730
Abbott is extraordinarily unpopular and toxic.
He will never even be a Minister let a lone the Prime Minister
>>80451369
You're the one who voted for the country to get fucked anon :)
>>80446177
>based Kevin isn't coming back
lads...
>>80451180
LMAO, if u actually think liberal are privatizing medicare you might want to see a therapist to sort out your mental retardation
>>80451157
>worse
Deficits aren't a bad thing and surpluses aren't a good thing. It's a residual of private saving desires in response to fiscal policy. If households want to spend less than their incomes then it's going to push the government's fiscal balance toward deficit, simple as that.
>The first structural deficits happened under Howard.
Howard & Costello were fuckwits but not because they structured the budget toward deficit or whatever. They inherited a deregulated banking system from Keating and were all too happy to let households binge on credit, which is how they got a decade of surpluses without a recession. That stopped when Rudd made the extremely sensible decision to deliberately hike spending in the GFC.
Hawke/Keating Labor was the first fully neoliberal party to govern Australia and Howard just carried it on from there.
>looked like It was booming because of mining
Mining exports brought some demand into the economy but not a lot by any stretch. We certainly don't have mining to thank for our recovery from the GFC, nor our stagnation since 2011ish: both are the result of governments' policy choices.
What we need is sustained, more expansionary fiscal policy from the government and Labor is closer to that than the Liberals but still painfully far off the mark.
>>80450463
This senate is a lot better for the coalition, previous one had PUPs and Greens, who all hated coalition.
New one has one nation, himch and NXT who will broadly want economic protectionism, harsher law and order, lower immigration and industry protection. Which will probably help LNP retain government next election (SRS).
Although DESU, I believe Anthony albanese will be the leader next election and is likely to win.
>>80451401
the feeling I get is that right-wing Liberals release that the party needs Turnbull and Turnbull needs the party.
His plan is just to stack his frontbench with the new guard of right wingers to stop them launching a coup
>>80451180
>medicare privatisation meme
>dollar in 70s is actually good for exports
>ALP literally admitted they would run bigger deficits into the future
>services need to be cut to some extent in order to balance the budget
I hate cuckbull and the LNP but you're an idiot
>>80451903
Gillard's 2010-2013 parliament passed more bills in that timeframe than any other government in Australian history but nice meme bro
>>80451180
>>80452097
>greens shill is still here
>>80452606
>who will broadly want economic protectionism
> lower immigration and industry protection
These things go against Liberal ideology
There is no way libs will get their budgets through the senate, nor will they probably get their ATCC bill through (which will be a kek or royal proportions)
>>80452439
Enjoy losing bulk billing for xrays, scans and blood tests :^)
>>80452606
I'm actually hopeful this term will kill the Greens.
They seem to have stagnated, a lot of the left have flocked back to Labor and Di Natale is a boring cuck
they basically failed in all their electoral goals, give they lost 25% of share of the vote in 2013, they barely increased on that and won no new seats and will likely lose a couple of senators.
This is the term that decides whether they turn Australia into a Euro style three party system or go the way of the Australian Democrats in the 1998-2001 term
>>80452788
I know that's not what the liberals want but it's what they will be forced to do by the cross bench and it will help them in voter land.
RE: building commission law, Xenophon has already said he agrees in principle, but wants amendments. I doubt one nation is a friend of the unions so the votes may come.
On the budget, not as presented, but super reforms of which Alp and LNP policy is very similar will get through.
Probably won't be any changes to education funding and the corp tax rate cut won't happen.
But once again, no company tax rate cut works out well for liberals in the long run, they can spend that money somewhere else where they are more likely to get electoral return. Sco mo is thirsty as fuck to increase the tax free threshold and if Xenophon presses forward with putting up Medicare levy another percent, then tax becomes the central issue which plays into LNP hands perfectly.
>>80452606
As much as I hate Labor, I'd be okay with Albo as PM. If only cause PM Albo sounds like a bro
>>80452497
I used to side with Labo(u)r based on Rudds economic policy being slightly >better than the Libs.
However when they endorsed safeschools, a remnant of the toxic and fatal greens alliance Gillard made, they proved to me to be forever tainted by the SJW well they drank from.
Either burn or purge it, they won't get my vote again in a hurry.
>>80453726
Bill Shorten also pledged to DOUBLE the refugee intake
>>80453209
I hope so senpai.
I think they have now lost their protest vote status and are now characterised as the more-left wing party. Any gains they make cannibalise labor, so assuming LNP bribes Tasmania and SA every now and then their senators won't be an issue.
>>80446177
>PEOPLE TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE FUCK A MODERN DEMOCRACY TAKES 8 DAYS TO COUNT VOTES
Because when an election is super close and they have to go through a bunch of preferences they have to be absolutely sure the count is solid so there is minimal chance of a court challenge forcing recounts forever.
>>80454457
their strategy is retarded as well
They go after the most leftist Labour MPs (like Plibersek and Albanese) for not being far-left enough, and then try win their seats off them by getting preference flows from the LNP or right wing meme parties.
It would be like Pauline Hanson going after Cory Bernardi for not hating Islam enough
>>80451207
lol greens
>>80454103
C U C K
U
C
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>>80451157
>the deficit has only gotten worse under Liberals
yeah that's how interest works, that meme needs to die already. Labor still created the problem.
>>80450738
>Buying into the partisan meme.
Howard era tax cuts where just as bad, if not worse than Rudd spending.
>pic related
>>80451180
>Can't wait for the dollar to drop in value even more
Exporter here, me either.
>>80454103
Fucking hell they really pick their moments don't they?
>>80452665
>>dollar in 70s is actually good for exports
but absolutely terrible for "startups" and small businesses trying to do what everyone's been campaigning for since The Bull got in power: become an innovation nation.
they keep saying "we'll innovate more!" then refuse to reform idiotic laws and regulations in a plethora of government departments that impede new ideas gaining traction
they say "we're for small business!" then they refuse to give them any help or support in a market environment where larger companies are just itching for a cheap kill.
the hypocrisy infuriates me.
t. not a labor voter
Here is the party you should support:
http://www.australianemploymentparty.org/
>Economic policy: offer everyone a minimum wage job, cut taxes, invest in infrastructure, and let the fiscal (budget) balance be a policy lever rather than a policy goal (like Lerner's Functional Finance)
>Social policy: you can do what you want as long as you aren't hurting anyone
They are contesting next election. Get on it lads.
>>80455656
Studying business law and had to do an assignment based what regulations and permits you need for a fake-start up company.
The sheer level of bullshit and bureaucracy is absolutely ridiculous.
>>80455701
Will they hire me to work for them?
>>80456319
I don't know, give it a try. They have contact details on the website.
They certainly will get you a job if they somehow form government, or can at least strongarm a major party.
>>80455809
i've watched my old man struggle for years with it. he has a fantastic idea that will make local councils and other associations millions of dollars, and will solve some real problems our major cities face.
his invention was trialled in fucking hong kong before the NSW state gov would even give him the time of day, and hong kong is the most conservative place on earth in terms of policy change.
Where are all the far-left Reddit tourists now? I thought Labor were a sure thing and the Liberals were going to be BTFO?
Allow me to gloat after the shitfest that was election night. Clowns were so confident that they had it in the bag.
To all the Labor supporters that weren't clowns; GG and god bless.
Also no matter what, please don't let electronic voting become a thing. I know Bill Shorten is probably only saying it because he lost, but it's a AWFUL idea that fundamentally undermines democracy.
>>80446177
Who cares how long it takes as long as Ii's done properly, professionally and on proper ballot papers.
They're going to try and push electronic voting on us and that's why they tried to inconvenience everyone this time.
>>80455701
>Social policy: you can do what you want as long as you aren't hurting anyone
>>80458795
Electronic Voting is just fucking asking for sabotage and fraud.
>>80455701
>offer everyone a minimum wage job
yeah cause there's plenty of those going around these days. Jesus what a stupid fucking idea.
>>80455701
How are they going to create jobs though? Pay me to shill for them on /pol/?
>>80452186
>people laughed when he suggested we should try adding mandarin to our language classes
>we could have had complete social interact with hong kong, china, singapore, and korea
Still mad as fuck m8. We could have imported k-pop
>>80459896
>>80459929
>Ask local councils "What work do you need done?"
>Federal government pays the wages, and oversees the system to prevent abuse
>Unemployed people transition to the private sector when the economy recovers
This is good for everyone, anon.
>>80446177
We'll be back to the polls before the year has ended, I guarantee it
>>80460178
>>Ask local councils "What work do you need done?"
I don't think they're going to pay the unemployed to execute council officials.
Wondering just how educated aus/pol/acks are about our system:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10711025
http://www.strawpoll.me/10711025
>>80460437
>decided
Don't you mean designed?
>>80460526
yes
>>80460585
Seems a bit silly to be asking who is educated when you make mistakes like that desu.
>>80450096
Yeah, nah m80, liberal is just as left as labor these days.
>>80450085
>rumour is the AEC fucked up the preferences
You are an ignorant shit. This election was no different to past elections in terms of counting time.
The reason it takes a week or two after election day is because the legislation requires postal votes to be allowed to come in for 13 days after election day.
The legislation also allows things like declaration votes which are a hassle to check.
>>80452930
>Enjoy losing bulk billing for xrays, scans and blood tests :^)
Is this true?
I need a lot of blood tests to monitor my T-cell count and viral load.
Also, how long do you think big mal will be pm? i think he'll be gone before the end of the year.
>>80461060
>gone before the end of the year
Replaced by who m8?
They are a bunch of clowns on his front bench, and Based Tone is damaged goods.
>>80461167
Maybe Scott Morrison? Would be hilarious if Tones knifed him though.
>>80461257
>Scott Morrison?
He will be lucky if he is still allowed to be treasurer.
I watched him on Election Night on ABC. Absolutely hopeless. Complete tool.
Why doesn't anyone know about our constitution? It's the world's second oldest continuous constitution, and the world's least amended constitution. It is an extraordinarily important document.
http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/Constitution
You might be interested to read this: http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/~/link.aspx?_id=AFF6CA564BC3465AA325E73053DED4AA&_z=z#chapter-01_part-05_51
No federal law can be in operation unless it relates to one of those heads of powers. Most federal laws we have today, like federal environmental laws, workplace relations laws, etc, don't fit under any of those heads of powers. and have only been found constitutional because of a centralist high court.
>>80450211
Cheers mate.
>>80461051
stop draining my countries tax dollars with your medical shit. just die already
>>80461345
Were you the one posting this shit on r9k last night with those straw polls?
Are you autistic?
>>80461442
Yes that was me.
No, I'm not autistic, why would I be?
>>80461394
*country's
>RIP STRAYA
Don't worry, it's not all bad.
Sure, the resource boom is winding down and becoming more automated, so that it will produce fewer and fewer jobs and the benefits will flow to a smaller group of people.
Sure, the Great Barrier Reef is dying as a result of climate change and mismanagement and we stand to lose billions of tourist dollars as a result.
Sure, the NBN is being wilfully mismanaged so that we will not have the information infrastructure needed to make regional centres an attractive alternative to the major cities.
Sure, science, research and technology funding are being stripped so that we will not be able to transition from a resource based economy to a technological one, exacerbating "brain drain" overseas as a result.
Sure, literally nobody in power seems to have any idea of how to plan more than 5 years in the future so that millenials and onwards have even a chance of sharing the standards of living of their parents.
And sure, as living conditions get worse for the millions of regular Australians who will be affected by automation, climate change, the global decline of the West and the end of the resources boom, we can expect that anger and frustration to be directed at the same innocent immigrants who have been the targets for this sort of misdirected rage for centuries, potentially heralding the rise of fascism in Australia as people desperately lash out for perceived former power and glory.
BUT. While that may seem to be a dim future, there's just one thing you have to remember.
We stopped the boats.
Now, back to the footy.
>>80461461
>why would I be?
It is odd stuff to be constantly posting apropos of nothing friend.
It is the sort of thing an autist gets fixated on and then shares to a bemused world.
>>80461051
You pozzed m80?
>>80446177
So you aussies thought you can just have civilized discussion about politics?
bet you cunts didnt expect and american to show up in this thread. lol
the tables have turned
>>80461509
Crimeariver.
>>80446177
hahaha
hahahahahahaha
>>80461537
Are you chasing m8?
>>80461528
I think more people need to know about our constitution. Americans all know and care about theirs, but Australians on the whole don't.
>>80461558
THIS MYYYYYYYYYY LAND
>>80461603
>says the deluded boomer gen x spawn
>>80452930
This is a good thing. The government pays waaaaayyyy too much for these services and because Doctors and patients don't have to pay, they just order a whole bunch of unnecessary tests.
These rebates should come from private health insurance, because they have a financial interest in preventative medicine and ensuring you stay healthy.
t. pathologist.
>>80461641
nah m8, just that blood cells and viral load sounds a bit pozzed aye.
>>80461649
Americans care about their bill of rights. The rest they could give two shits about.
>>80446177
Labor are graceless losers claiming that the government has no authority. I firmly believe they would force their idea of progress via fascism.
>>80461729
That was the joke m8. It went over most of the dull heads here though.
>>80451463
something something boomerang
something digiridindu something spider rain
>>80461167
Bishop
>>80461684
What about cunts that can't afford an x-ray though?
>>80461684
>t. pathologist.
So how the fuck is the average person meant to afford it?
>inb4 private health
no fuck right off you scum
>>80461748
>t abbot voter
bye bye come double diss faggot
>>80461808
>Bishop
She was too much of a lightweight to even be treasurer.
She is an affirmative action hire out of her depth where she is.
so now that's over i'm not seeing a point in a fulltime auspol thread because something tells me not much is going to happen for a long while.
>whah we lost the election
>leadership change whahhhh
>we're all doomed
>muh nbn and poo stabber laws
>gib refugees and corrupt unions with some debt on the top plox
the asshurt begins
>>80461811
Just get a gamma ray instead.
>>80446177
>LABOR CPNCEDES DEFEAT
Goodbye first-world internet.
cya cuck shorten :)
>>80461883
see you again tomorrow
and in 3 weeks when double diss happens and we go back to the polls
>>80461748
If the LNP get 76 or 77 (which is looking likely now) Labor will look kind of stupid
Bill Shorten basically did a victory lap for winning 8-10 seats short of a majority.
>>80461874
That's why I think she'll end up getting it. They're bound to try to course correct what they'll perceive as Turnbull fucking up in the election. What better way than to go for maximum brownie points
What happened, is there a new PM in Australia that is less crazy then the other two before?
>>80462016
>we go back to the polls
I'll be so mad if this happens.
>>80461558
Please watch our sports BSA.
>>80461902
I hate this meme. The internets been dead for ages.
Government run Corporations are useless!
>>80461828
>>80461811
Pathology and radiology companies are charging excessive amounts for testing because the government is paying.
Because the prices are effectively negotiated by the government, everyone gets paid the same for all tests, which means there is exactly ZERO competition in the industry.
Companies would be forced to reduce prices if they actually had to woo consumers, AND if Private health insurance companies were a primary negotiator on fees, they would also force down costs.
I also think the government should apply the tax-free threshold to income from SAVINGS rather than just work. Then people could put small amounts of money away, and earn some tax-free interest which they could use for such an event.
>>80462053
Nah m8 Labor had a pretty good election. They damaged Turnbull and are in a good position to finish the job in three years.
>>80462085
for a start turnbull isn't crazy, and leadership didn't change
>>80462094
how the fuck are libs gonna do anything when labor and the rest can just block them?
Double diss
>>80446177
So do all Commonwealth nations have the same parties?
>>80462064
It's also very fashionable to have a female leader these days too. The liberal party will score maximum progress points with potential swing voters and we will look super modernist and progressive on the world stage too.
>>80461902
The free market will fix it :^)
>>80462152
they ran a good campaign, but there's no certainty they'll keep going well.
They were a pretty weak opposition, who got lucky when Abbott turned out to be a dud. They were garbage basically and Shorten was hugely unpopular.
They just managed to push the medicare privatisation meme with maximum effectiveness.
>>80462149
Have you NOT seen whats happened in america?
Fuck you quacks are completely deluded.
The companies will just fuck over the average bastard and charge them just as much while pocketing the 'savings' all for themselves and passing nothing along to the average person.
Get fucked.
Hope you die in a private hospital you paid alot of money to belong too asshole
>>80462152
>this labour shill has posted more than anyone else constantly in every thread since it turned up
hey m8 do you think you influenced anything much?
>>80462279
>They just managed to push the medicare privatisation meme with maximum effectiveness.
So gutting medicare isnt a issue for you?
Oh yeah just call it a mediscare meme good little media parrot
>>80462149
m8, i don't want to spend my hard earned savings and small amounts of money i have put away on fucking x-rays and shit. Government can pay for it.
>>80462291
wait wrong fucking one
>>80462343
that guy
>>80449928
LDP cunt
I hope the Libs get raped by One Nation at the next election.
3 senators, Libs have to work with them to pass legislation.
>>80462408
???
who are you talking to
>>80450906
Question: What did Queensland cunts think of Cambell Newman?
>>80462527
more evidence that the media's got character assassination down to an absolute artform
>>80461902
Labor weren't promising to build the original NBN dude.
They promised to have Infrastructure Australia, with input from relevant experts, manage the development of a plan that outlines how and when the parts of Australia without Fibre might possibly be able to look into maybe consider a roll out some time in the future - budget permitting.
Basically it was a promise to waste money on a report that would rule out the original plan.
>>80462483
This is what I am hoping for, i can also tell you that a significant amount of former labor voters will get behind her too.
>>80455256
tax cuts are never bad, you fucking filthy socialist.
>>80462679
>cutting tax while maintaining spending and fucking your budget is a good idea
>>80462735
then you should be encouraging spending cuts and not whine about lower taxes.
Holy fuck Liberal voters are mouth breathers. I just saw someone post on Facebook that if we lost our triple A credit rating they would blame Labor even though they haven't been in government for three years
Your parties don't make sense, liberals are conservatives, labour are commies, and one nation sounds like a black power group.
Get better names straya.
Did Leyonhjelm lose his place on the senate or what?
>>80462824
>implying I don't
>>80462872
Its your names that are retarded. Your "conservatives" are liberals and your "liberals" are commies.
>>80462679
wew man, if you want to bait you got to tone it down a bit.
I know it's probably your first time and you're laughing about your comment, but right off the bat you exposed yourself.
>tax cuts are never bad, you fucking filthy socialist.
Seriously buddy? You need to get it together. That's so fucking stupid, it's so stupid that I actually feel bad for you. I actually feel the need to step in and let you know that this is pretty bad bait. That's how bad it is.
>>80462872
We'll get better names when you stop shooting each other.
>>80462991
Lots of words, zero content. Americans have weak minds, just not enough fuel in your brains for intelligent conversation.
lel retard shorten cost retard labor the election, there is no chance in hell we are doing another double dissolution. LNP will form a majority by winning the needed seats or making deals with independents. The only chance labor has of winning the next election in three years is if he removes himself from the leadership of the labor party.
>>80451463
Theresn no oil cunt
>>80463003
to be fair on them its mainly their niggers.
imagine if the average abbo here had a gun
>>80462979
Our liberal party is named after the idea of classical liberalism, what american's call libertarian, but they are anything but.
>>80462284
>>80462399
The government doesn't pay for anything. The government has no money.
That money is being taken from other people.
What people don't realise is that Alcohol taxes, Cigarette taxes, Bike Helmet Laws, Seat belt laws, speed cameras, nightclub lockouts, etc are all because the government foots the bill for healthcare.
As long as they are spending tax payer money, they have an incentive and justification to impose a fucking Nanny State on everyone, including paying for police to enforce the nanny state.
Diagnostic testing can actually be done much cheaper, but there is no competition in the market for it. If those costs were removed from Medicare rebates the cost to the government would be greatly reduced and they could cut taxes so you would end up with more money in your pocket overall.
You're already spending your hard earned dollars on overpriced X-Rays and blood tests for OTHER people - and in most cases they are completely unnecessary and inappropriate.
>>80462938
>Did Leyonhjelm lose his place on the senate or what?
He did very badly (less than 3% of the vote) but he is in with a chance of getting back in.
He will need a hefty dose of luck though.
>>80463231
Gotta admit I keked hard.
I have a funny feeling that Malcolm Turnbull will be assassinated sometime this year.
>>80463302
>The government has no money
The Reserve Bank prints money m8.
>>80463278
They'd be too drunk to shoot anything but themselves.
>>80462938
He got BTFO
Who's ready for PM Tony Abbott?
>>80463313
Didn't Labor and Liberal preference him or something? Is it that /r/australia shit posting as usual?
>>80463124
Yeah yeah yeah, Poland stronk, America dumb.
It's probably easy to blame everything on dumb Americans, especially if your own government would suck America's dick...from behind.
I mean seriously, if this was a porno America could tuck their balls behind their legs and you would still suck their dick. You'd do anything to please big daddy America.
Get mad at the United States all you want, your government loves to lick our ass. Why get mad at us? Get mad at your own ass licking government.
>>80463302
>t. private insurance broker
so according to you we should stop paying the govt and pay private companies instead
>Which have such a good track record looking after the public's money...
Wait
Quacks gonna quack get your head out of your ass
i love how you have also ignored america's approach and just harp on a bunch of drivel expecting people to agree with your misinformation
>>80463390
Imagine if they suddenly got smarter and then realized how shitty they are and killed themselves.
That would be awesome
PLANET OF THE ABOS
>>80463433
Oh yeah because that worked out so well last time.
>>80463281
>the idea of classical liberalism, what american's call libertarian
Libertarian is not the same as classically liberal, but I agree it's the closest term Americans got.
>but they are anything
Well, that's a shame, that they're not principled enough. But such is politics everywhere in the world sadly.
>>80463444
Wouldn't surprise me if the Libs did because he's willing to negotiate fairly with them
>>80463444
>Didn't Labor and Liberal preference him
Yeah they both had him on their recommendations, but they had other parties ahead of him who may still be in the count so the preferences may not get to him. He is starting from too low a base.
>>80463598
m8, politics is bullshit, it only exists to divide people and make them easier to manage and control.
>>80463355
The Reserve bank devalues currency. It doesn't create wealth.
>Ignores the entire point of the post.
the problem with us aussies is we think we're in with the global big boys, when the fact of the matter where a backwater colony.
we have zero sovereign power what so ever.
everything is off shore, subcontracted globally or owned by foreign entities.
I see clowns in this thread saying bullet train and what they fail to realise is the reality of it.
-privatised
-owned by foreign conglomerate
-China leading promoter
-will not be feasible with out massive government subsidies
-cashed up property developers have already bought most of the land in the corridors
-corrupt nsw government.
>>80463445
I'm just visiting.
Still nothing you said contradicts the fact that you have a really dumb society.
>>80449301
incompetence
>>80464001
This.
Wish i moved out and stayed out.
Bring on mad max!
>>80462152
Bill Shorten is so fucking unlikable.
>>80463989
Sorry m8 it was a low effort shitpost.
I didn't realise I was talking to a proper intellectual.
>>80464001
>the problem with us aussies is we think we're in with the global big boys
No we don't. I don't anyway.
>>80450738
>muh debt meme
So did Libs win or did it end up being a hung parliament?
>>80464621
Libs will win a majority of one or two seats m8.
>>80464384
>The 2007‑08 Budget provides for an underlying cash surplus of $10.6 billion, the Government's tenth surplus.
Personal income tax reform
All taxpayers will benefit from a further $31.5 billion in tax cuts over the next four years.
From 1 July 2007, the low income tax offset will increase to $750 per year and the 30 per cent threshold will rise from $25,000 to $30,000.
From 1 July 2008, the 40 per cent threshold will increase to $80,000 and the 45 per cent threshold will increase to $180,000.
>http://www.budget.gov.au/2007-08/
reminder you economic retard, leaving a surplus is very different from leaving debt
>>80450085
+1,000,000 postal votes
>>80446177
Useless thread OP, everyone knew the Coalition would win. Id rather it take 8 days than be rigged like in the US.
>>80465082
The surpluses were too small. They should have been 100 Billion plus per year.
These cunts boasted about 5 billion surpluses as if they were gods.
In hindsight they look very very wasteful and irresponsible government.
>>80462527
I was really thankful for Campbell Newman, I live on the Gold Coast and the bikies were just ridiculous. It was horrible. He fixed it and it's actually a nice place now.
>>80465082
>>80465585
>Deficit hawks arguing over which party is better at indebting households
>>80465585
They were already stockpiling money, so surpluses were no longer needed. After balance has been achieved, surplus is a sign of bad allocation of funding or taxing too much.
>>80465585
still a surplus, the australian people are incurring interest on a debt that a bad government created. Not only that we are in line to lose our AAA credit rating and ask for more from the people to pay said debt. Another labor term would have finished this country.
>>80463354
Fuck I'd love to shoot that cunt
>>80465603
>Gold Coast
>nice place now
Have you just adjusted to all the murders and Maori drug dealers or are you just delusional?
>>80463598
Classical liberals need to end their lives
>>80465863
Shoot the breeze with him instead anon.
He is an interesting guy.
>>80464001
>the problem with us aussies is we think we're in with the global big boys
We are in with the global big boys, in 50 years we'll be surpassing or atleast matching the euro powers, our population is exploding for a first world country and so is our economy, we happen to be economically and geo-politically isolated because of rise of china, the distance from other western powers and proximity of indonesia and the other south east asian cultures
>>80466134
Fuck off chink.
>>80446177
Reminder that LDP were cucked HARD and btfo.
fuck of you gun loving hicks and quit trying to meme in parties for guns! you will only kill people by relaxing our gun laws! If anything they need to be tightened after the police officer being shot and the cafe siege!
>>80465859
Deficit or surplus is simply a residual of the overall non-government sector's saving desires. It's not even within the government's control.
If surpluses are intended to pay off public "debt", then why did the Australian government continue to issue bonds even after that "debt" was "paid"?
Read up: http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=32861
>>80449301
Antifa
>>80465862
Ease off the righty memes m8. The ratings agencies are a sham, our government has no default risk, and public debt is private saving.
>>80466264
fuck off cunt I'm as white as the cum in your mother
>>80466265
Never change, Australia.
>>80465847
love you
>>80465863
Thank you for your comment. Your IP has been logged.
>>80466447
>our government has no default risk
the risk isn't on the government it's on the people, private saving means that money doesn't necessarily go back into the economy.
>>80466501
The cum in my mother goes a yellow colour after a while m8.
>>80466761
>Your IP has been logged
Hope it wasn't an old-growth IP.
>>80466761
See if I give a fuck
Is this good or bad?
Is labor left-wing or right-wing?
>>80466767
Private saving means it definitely doesn't go back into the economy - which is fine, it's your money, spend or not spend as you please. But it means the government must choose to make up for that lost spending or see sales, and therefore incomes, and therefore employment, and therefore jobs & growth drop.
People are naturally inclined to save and saving is always underwritten by deficits.
>>80460437
I knew that because of learning how the tax system was changed for ww2
>>80466992
Labor is left wing, they're somewhere between establishment Democrats and UK conservatives if you want an international comparison.
Malcolm's son married a chink and now they have a chinky little tunbull baby, and he coudn't be happier. fucking disgusting
>>80467164
You are seeing this with all the elites.
They either marry chinks (Zuckerburg, Rudd's son) or Jews (clinton's daughter, Trump's daughter).
They are part of a globalised class of people completely separate to us. We are just their serfs.
>>80467069
>private saving -- Saving by households and businesses.
you sure about that buddy? Just how many of these business do you think are australian owned and operated?
>>80449246
What's wrong with latte
>>80446177
Whats up with domestic violence tax? Why you are so violent?
>>80467331
Does it matter? I mean you can stop the foreign sector from saving Australian Dollars if you want, but why? It just means we get better real terms of trade.
>>80467600
Yes it does matter, because these companies dodge tax and also rely on government handouts to operate funded by the people.
>>80467769
Yeah, I would have tax loopholes fixed so that foreign companies have no unfair advantage over domestic. None of this makes our idiotic government's pursuit of surpluses sensible.
>>80462527
Little dictator.
The VLAD laws where advertised as anti-bikie laws but they we're merely the initial target, the law could be applied to anyone.
Giving the government the power deem who you can legally or illegaly associate with is completely and utterly fucked up in my book.
But trust Australians to think that it was a lovely idea.
You guys should've voted to someone who will give you faster internet. Betcha can't load pic related.
Just made a Domino's order.
I had sworn I was never going to do that again. Such shit quality.
This food addiction is controlling my life.
Just kill me now.
>>80450096
>4 more years
Average Prepbull voter
>>80464145
He's a huge faggot, Right in with the unions and just a big fucking bully, reminds me of some old cunt who used to tell me what to do and just cause he was a senior member he was treated fairly, fucking dickhead.
>>80468358
We will probably get a referendum on fixed federal four years terms one day.
>>80468330
>>80468261
At least you can get delivery m8.
I have to drive 25 mins to get anywhere..
>>80468126
Don't listen to this leaf bully ausbros, take my Aussie pepe instead.
>>80468330
>getting fudge brownies and chicken pieces from dominos
>not even ordering a pizza
Are you above 250 kg you fat fuck?
>>80468430
Yeah there are only two places in my town that deliver: Domino's and the superior local pizza place.
I used Domino's because they accept paypal and that is the only way I can pay tonight.
>>80468126
I can but it took abut 8 seconds
>>80468499
>above 250 kg
Only when I'm straddling your mum m8.
>>80468126
we're both on Canadian internet, hoser
nothing to be proud aboot
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>>80468261
>>80468330
Hello, Chris Jermyn
>>80468533
my mum's dead.
>>80468579
We did it in the coffin m8.
>>80468572
>Hello, Chris Jermyn
How did you know? Fuck.
>>80468612
you got the wrong woman then, she was cremated.
only way you could do it would be to fuck about 15 square km of the pacific ocean you fat fuck.
>>80468330
you going to make tiny little garlic chicken sandwiches? it's actually not a bad idea
>>80451463
Nothing, still allies, build more bases in Darwin please
Do you guys have a Trump? Did he win?
>>80468731
I honestly think shortens disgusting man boobs cost him the election, the cunt media never missed a chance to show them though
>>80468791
We had a Hilary and a guy that liked gay people.
Hillary won.
>>80468704
I haven't tried these chicken things before. I will see how it goes.
any other cunts cant make new threads? it keeps saying my isp has been range blocked.
is this the result of that 'Easter.' cunt? fucking dickhead
>>80468920
You Telstra ISP m8?
>>80468875
I have had kickers but not the bites, they pretty good, has the texture of real chicken breast, i think it is
>>80467419
black>black with small amount of milk>cap>mocha>white>latte
>>80468966
I have given up on ordering the pizzas from Domino's.
Too many bad experiences.
Do you think there will be another cuck bull/ shorten election in 3 years?, would be suicide for libs to change again t b h. labor would really need to change in the next couple of months but dont see it happening
Jesus Christ mates you can't make this shit up.
>>80468330
hahaha you fat cunt. you better tip the driver (unless he's a shitskin)
i deliver pizzas for dominos ask me anything
>>80468920
You've been banned for shitposting an obscene number of black cocks
>>80469128
What the fuck dominoes? That's creepy as Hell.
>>80469128
I always crack up on the ad when the delivery driver is a white kid who looks like he he goes to private school
