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>Trump’s white working class supporters — who provide somewhere between 58 and 62 percent of his votes, according to data from NBC and ABC polls — have suffered a stunning loss of relative status over the past 40 years.

>Their wages have stagnated or declined; the ascendance of minorities has threatened their cultural dominance; and the growth of an increasingly large and affluent upper middle class has pushed goods and services once viewed as theirs by right beyond their reach.

>This point was well put in an essay, “Keeping Up With the Joneses,” by Neil Fligstein, a professor of sociology at Berkeley, Pat Hastings, a Ph.D. candidate at Berkeley, and Adam Goldstein, professor of sociology at Princeton, which was presented at the annual meeting of the American Sociological Association.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/opinion/campaign-stops/how-falling-behind-the-joneses-fueled-the-rise-of-trump.html
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>>80410140
>(((fligstein)))
>(((goldstein)))
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>(((edsall)))
>(((Fligstein)))
>(((Goldstein)))
also a white colony filled with white people wanting to keep their status? how evil
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>lol we outsourced all your jobs and importing millions of Mexican to replace you
>suck out nuts

and the said thing is libertarians and cuckservatives still want to let them get away with it because "muh free market"
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>>80410140
>Ph.D of sociology
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yeah the middle class has been fucked over by both parties
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>>80410140
the people that lose the most if they let globalization continue and therefore don't want it to continue are obviously complete illogical morons according to geniuses like Mr. Edsall here, always remember if you don't let the (((1%))) abuse and exploit you like a Bangladeshi child laborer and if you don't want to be replaced by subhuman minorities in your own land, then you are obviously a racist, stupid, white trash, conservative, irrational, fear-mongering, baby-eating Nazi pedophile Hitler clone. It's gotten so bad, you aren't even allowed to stand up for your own well being without being put on the same level as mass-murders. Do these jackasses not notice the fucking signs, was the BREXIT not a loud enough explosion, do these faggots not see that they are dangerously close to the abyss?
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>>80412039
basically this

all the while free trade retards and neoliberals promote domination of nations by an international corporate elite as "le epic freedumbs" because apparently being out of a job and paid like shit is great for the economy.

Who knew?

As long as both the left and the right support globalism we are fucked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-PlqqK9B9Y
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>>80410140
He's not wrong. My white working class small town has turned into neighborhoods full of yuppies living in massive, recently developed homes and spics. The spics took the modest sized homes downtown that used to be the standard. Now they're building Section 8 housing a few blocks from the high school. The elites want the white working class dead.
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Trump wave is coming!
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>>80410140
>niggers kill us every day
>10 mexicans move in to take their place.
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>>80415468
>implying they wont rig the election for Hill
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>>80410415
false. you are the one letting niggers and mexicans get away with welfare because your'e so afraid of libertarians
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>>80410140
>an increasingly large and affluent upper middle class
I thought the left narrative was the exact opposite of this. What happened to "there are only like 200 rich people in the US, and everyone else is forced to live in shacks!" Wasn't that Uncle Bernie's whole platform?
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>>80412039

This exactly
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>>80410415
No you retard, they want to get rid of heavy regulation and taxation, thus removing any incentive for anyone to outsource in the first place.

Jesus Christ, /pol/, sometimes I seriously wonder about you.
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>>80410140
wtf i hate trump now
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>>80416141
>muh welfare

Mexicans also come here for jobs and to escape their shitty country that is full of Mexicans (while at the same time filling the US with Mexicans)

Blacks on the other hand are here because we refuse to send them back to Apefrica.
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>>80410140
>Neil Fligstein and Adam Golstein
Every time. Literally every time.
This isn't funny anymore, guys
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>>80410140
These people celebrate the demise of white America completely oblivious to the fact that America will fall with it.
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>>80416386
You realize that unless you lower standard of living to "man living in cage" you can never get lower wage levels than China right?

That's the main reason for outsourcing
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>>80410140
>Whites have become irrelevant, that is why we need a 24/7 total propaganda war to stop them from just thinking about themselves first for once because that is all it takes for them to fuck our shit up
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>>80416573
no they are well aware of America failing because they are parasitic bloodsuckers bleeding it dry

that's why their next target is China.
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Right wing populism is wrong but leftist populism is aok? Fuck the sub humans that create this nonsense.
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>>80416522
>Found the spic

http://cis.org/Cost-Welfare-Immigrant-Native-Households
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>>80410140
I enjoy that the kikes finally have to start being honest about white genocide. Hopefully it's not too late to stop these fucking liberal kikes.
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>>80412039

How can people here write posts like this and NOT being socialists/communists?

Like you think the problem is that billionares stopped caring about you? You think the disappearing Keynesian wonderland is sustainable or something?

> remember if you don't let the (((1%))) abuse and exploit you like a Bangladeshi child laborer and if you don't want to be replaced by subhuman minorities in your own land

And who do you think is going to protect you from this exactly? The "good" 1%?
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>>80416709
China will unleash such Hell on them, they will be for the ghost o Adolf Hitler to save them.
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>>80410140
Based democracy. Can't wait to be a minority in my own country.
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>>80410415
>Trade "deficit" is harmful
Kill yourself
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>>80416386

>let's let the investment class kike monoliths like Goldman Sachs and insurance companies cosolidate more profits from manipulation and fraud

yeah no thanks
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>>80410140
>stein
>stein
every fuckin time
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>>80410437
Why are all sociologists basically social Marxists? Every one that I know that is going for that degree becomes an SJW. It's literally in the curriculum, social justice. Might as well rename the class to Social Marxism so people don't get impressed when you tell them you're a sociologist, like that's some important thing when basically you're a fucking communist.
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>>80416892
>how can people NOT be communists
Most of us have at least a tenuous grasp of history
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>>80410415
>the State must protect my shitty third world job from actual competition!
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what's the point of emotionally charged articles like this?
it's like they really want a race war desu
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>>80419107
>it's like they really want a race war desu
I, along with a lot of people I know, would be more than happy to oblige them. About 40% of blacks and Hispanics are a blight on this country and the rest should seriously fuck off to a country that they built and was founded or at least is government by their own laws, customs, and way of life and fuck off from America, land of the free and WESTERN men
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>>80410140
It's as if people don't understand how genocides happen
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>>80419538
*governed by
Wew
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>>80416141
>you are the one letting niggers and mexicans get away with welfare because your'e so afraid of libertarians

Blacks and Mexicans vote in more welfare, like their home country.

Libertarians let them in for "free market" economic policies, and these immigrants vote out their "free market" economic policies.
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Evola was 100% right when he said the bogeouise obession with economics and "wealth" was a sickness equal the marxism and the communists in search of fake utopias
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>>80416859
>also
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>>80417045
No you kill yourself libertarian cuck

Sending good jobs to China is retarded

>>80417410
It's only a 3rd world job if you let it be a 3rd world job you stupid spic
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(((Sociology)))
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>>80419910
>more welfare, like their home country.
Nope.
That is not how the system works at all.
They might in the U.S
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>>80422536
“People are becoming very dependent,” Aguirre said. The program is about “giving you the opportunity to move forward.
“But the people don’t do it. Why? Because they are dependent on the government sustaining them for the rest of their lives,” Aguirre said.
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/2014/08/26/in-mexico-welfare-programs-for-children-fall-short
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>>80410140
>it's a "jews try and argue that the white working class is voting against its own self interests while simultaneously advocating globalization and cultural marxism while offering no alternative solutions to the problem they've enunciated" episode - guest starring the entire synagogue

look at this shit, last paragraph:

>Many of Trump’s supporters have been left behind, marginalized by the economic, cultural and demographic transformations brought about by globalization. Trump likes to assure these beleaguered voters that he will restore their vanished status, but the reality is that his chaotic appropriation of right-wing populism — its threats and its promises — is fraudulent, as bereft of value as his bankrupt casinos.

they outright said "you're dying" all while cheering it on, claiming it's inevitable. they're outright bragging in your face.
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>>80417410

new home construction and remodeling of existing homes is third world employment?
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>>80410140
>have suffered a stunning loss of relative status over the past 40 years
jesus, I wonder why they're upset? stupid ass crack ho bitches

don't they know whitey be goin exticnt?
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the article actually blames the left for the "the ascendance of minorities has threatened their cultural dominance."

>David Geary, a psychologist at the University of Missouri, told me by email that the practice among liberal interest groups of
>highlighting group differences, cultures, etc. has contributed to Trump’s appeal, especially given that white men are often blamed for being oppressive or the source of many of the issues being protested.
>The result in the white working class, Geary argues, is to sharpen the us-versus-them character of politics.
>You cannot consistently have different groups arguing for equality, protesting etc. without creating an in-group, out-group mentality — an evolved bias that is easily invoked — within the U.S.
>Steven Pinker, a professor of psychology at Harvard, shares Geary’s view that Trump supporters are, to some extent, responding to what they see as excesses on the left. In an email, Pinker argued that Trump has been inadvertently aided by the left’s history of heavy-handed policing of speech about race and sex known as “political correctness.” Of course respect for women and racial minorities is not political correctness — it is just decency. But well-known excesses in the policing of speech have handed Trump a gift: he can rationalize despicable attitudes as honest reactions to political correctness. In this way he multiplies the effectiveness of his taboo-shattering campaign. Supporters don’t perceive him as merely publicizing their ugly private beliefs; they perceive him as speaking truth to power.

and it does go on to promote how bad the inflationand uncontrolled greed has hurt the middle class.

so yes its a jew, but the article itself isn't as bad as OP painted it out to be.
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>>80423617

Its hilariously hypocritical.

1. Haha, globalism is killing you, you are irrelevant now!
2. Why do these backwards racists refuse to vote for our globalist policies???
3. Shitshitshit, these fossils are taking away our power and not letting us have more globalism, stop it, why are you doing that, it has to be because you are evil and irrelevant!
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>>80410140
>Fligstein
>Goldstein
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>>80423617
i took it more as them stating all of trump's promises and fixes are lies. that he actually doesn't care about them but is only using them for his political gain.

he, himself, is the very thing that actually hurt(s) them.
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>>80417410

Say that to the guys fired from Disney after training Poos in Loo to take over their jobs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/lawsuit-claims-disney-colluded-to-replace-us-workers-with-immigrants.html
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>>80413166
>The elites want the white working class dead.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/12/national-review-writer-working-class-communities-deserve-to-die/
>“If you spend time in hardscrabble, white upstate New York, or eastern Kentucky, or my own native West Texas, and you take an honest look at the welfare dependency, the drug and alcohol addiction, the family anarchy—which is to say, the whelping of human children with all the respect and wisdom of a stray dog—you will come to an awful realization. It wasn’t Beijing. It wasn’t even Washington, as bad as Washington can be. It wasn’t immigrants from Mexico, excessive and problematic as our current immigration levels are. It wasn’t any of that,” Williamson state.


>“The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible,” the conservative writer says. “The white American under-class is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin. What they need isn’t analgesics, literal or political. They need real opportunity, which means that they need real change, which means that they need U-Haul. If you want to live, get out of Garbutt [a blue-collar town in New York].”

This was a quote from an actual article in the National Review, published in March of this year.
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>>80425241
man as an upstate new yorker this makes me seeth with rage
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>>80416651

Underrated comment.
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>This statement was astonishing to me: "the practice among liberal interest groups of 'highlighting group differences.'"
>For hundreds of years, white men denied women and minorities access to the right to vote, to jobs, education, and wealth. They did this systematically, legally, and culturally, and in every aspect of the human experience. They excluded these groups entirely based on skin color and biological equipment.
>How dare these "liberal interest groups" make white men feel bad by pointing this out.
>250Recommend

i didn't know asians, arabs, and south americans where white.
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>>80410295
>>80410328
>(((nytimes)))
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((jews))) aside, this is good:

>David Geary, a psychologist at the University of Missouri, told me by email that the practice among liberal interest groups of

>highlighting group differences, cultures, etc. has contributed to Trump’s appeal, especially given that white men are often blamed for being oppressive or the source of many of the issues being protested. The result in the white working class, Geary argues, is to sharpen the us-versus-them character of politics. You cannot consistently have different groups arguing for equality, protesting etc. without creating an in-group, out-group mentality — an evolved bias that is easily invoked — within the U.S.

>Steven Pinker, a professor of psychology at Harvard, shares Geary’s view that Trump supporters are, to some extent, responding to what they see as excesses on the left. In an email, Pinker argued that Trump

>has been inadvertently aided by the left’s history of heavy-handed policing of speech about race and sex known as “political correctness.” Of course respect for women and racial minorities is not political correctness — it is just decency. But well-known excesses in the policing of speech have handed Trump a gift: he can rationalize despicable attitudes as honest reactions to political correctness. In this way he multiplies the effectiveness of his taboo-shattering campaign. Supporters don’t perceive him as merely publicizing their ugly private beliefs; they perceive him as speaking truth to power.
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>>80410140
>(((Edsall)))
>kike as fuck looking face
Don't even need to read the rest.
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>growth of an affluent upper class

ha ha, good one, Chaim. the only people getting rich these days are the parasitic banksters. the "upper class" is being taxed into the lower class, while CEO Goldman-Sachsberg enjoys adding another several billion onto his net worth and political influence over the globe.
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>>80425886
>he can rationalize despicable attitudes as honest reactions
The only reason they think his stances are "despicable attitudes" is because cuckservatives let the Overton window drift so goddamn far to the left that moderation is seen as Nazism
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They elites threw the lower class black community overboard in the 1970's, now they're rioting, and buying AR-15's and killing cops, imagine what will happen when they throw the white working class community overboard, and you wonder they take "right wing" terrorism so seriously
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>>80427092
>imagine what will happen when they throw the white working class community overboard
you serious? that happened in 1965 with the INA
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