The Orthodox Church made a statement on immigration
26th of June, 2016
On immigration
>Such an important aspect of modern life like mass migration is not left unattended. Unlike the Catholic approach that unduly favors migrants, particularly in Europe, the Orthodox notices the negative nature of the process, as well as the fact that it leads to confrontation of different identities and value systems. In addition, the Orthodox Church propose to look at the roots of this phenomenon. The reason for the migration is the liberal, hedonistic ideology bleeding the peoples of Europe and the interests of the capitalist elite, who need a cheap and disenfranchised workforce:
>Attempts by indigenous people of the rich countries to stop the migration flow are futile, because come in conflict with greed of their own elites who are interested in the low-wage workforce.
Thoughts? How do Catholics feel about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pqax_dPgTk
>>80408017
Makes me proud to be orthodox
>orthodox
>christianity
Look, the pagans don't want other pagans on their turf.
>>80408891
Buzz off, Ahmed.
>>80408017
God bless the Orthodox Church
>>80409898
Unto the ages of ages, amen.
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>>80408017
>>80408017
American Orthodox Patriarchate when?
>>80408017
hillary and retards like her are dangerous
> if you say practitioners of Islam are prone to manipulation and violence, they will be manipulated into violence!
how can anyone > IQ85 not see how absolutely vapid this argument is? i keep seeing it everywhere
>>80410628
>that gif
>>80408017
>Want to become Orthodox
>The only orthodox parish in my city is a Romanian Orthodox church and I'm afraid it will be full of romanian gyppos that will kill me.
>>80408017
east orthodox is the most based variant of christianity
>Once more the Islam will rule the galaxy and we shall have peace
>>80408017
She's getting fat.
>>80410281
never. you guys are less than 2% of the population. even the jehova's witnesses are more followed than you.
people mostly follow the one true church, the Roman Catholic church, not some cult that branched off in 1054
>>80411153
LOL yes. Pregnant maybe?
>>80410914
A Romanian monk priest had to cover for my priest (my parish is Greek) last Sunday, he was based.
>>80410914
Romanian Orthodox are ultra based. One of the older Romanian women at my parish names the Jew all the time and tells everyone how yoy can't trust them.
>>80411302
It's not about numbers its about autonomy. Most of the money we give our archdiocese goes overseas and most of the money Constantinople gets comes from the US. If we had that money for ourselves we would be in a much better position to grow in the US.
>>80408017
Kinda makes me want to convert desu senpai
I don't get the animosity between you guys.
From what I can tell your theology is basically the same. Where the Orthodox are lighter on the dogma and are not currently infiltrated by commies and faggots.
Care to explain?
if Islam suddenly disappeared, Orthodox Christians would be the next worst thing
>>80411779
All of the OCA money stays here, and I think only 10% of the money that goes to the archdiocese goes overseas, if that.
>>80412371
Catholic theology: Summa Theologica
Orthodox theology: Philokalia
>>80412371
Catholics sacked Constantinople in the 4th crusade after the Greeks massacred a bunch of Venetian merchants and both sides did some really bad things to each other in WW2. Also the Romans are considered to be heretics by the Orthodox.
>The term ‘Roman Catholic’ refers to the heresy formed around the person of the Pope of Rome (who broke away from the Orthodox Church in 1054 A.D.), which strives to subject the world to the incontrovertible doctrinal and decretal authority of this man, declared to be the “substitute [vicari] of the Son of God”, “Christ on earth”, etc. This is the fundamental and only truly unchanging doctrinal aspect of this sect and its essence; all other characteristics may be changed or ‘developed’ in new directions, of which history already records many examples.
>In addition to the dogma of the Pope, the Roman Catholic heresy currently holds the heresies of the Dual Causation of the Holy Spirit, God as a Tripartite Energy (with Created Grace being a further heretical consequence), Purgatory and the Papal Treasury of Merits, Development of Dogma, the Divine Inspiration and Salvific Nature of all Religions (a heresy stemming from the 20th-century Freemasonic takeover of the Vatican), the Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary, the Sacramentalogy of Opere Operato, etc., as well as the canonical violations of claiming jurisdiction for the Pope in all dioceses, adding to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, Rejection of Married Priests, Mutation or Mutilation of the Mysteries of Holy Baptism, Chrismation, Confession, and Lord’s Divine Liturgy and Eucharist (unleavened wafers, removal of the invocation of the Holy Spirit, etc.), and the papal decrees ordering or sanctioning the robbery, torture, murder, enslavement, and other forms of inhuman maltreatment of insubordinate or non-Roman Catholic persons.
>>80412425
That's because the OCA was given autonomy by Russia(without permission from Constantinople). They are still not an autocephalous Church though that's why there is no American Patriarch.
>>80412371
Also, Vatican II created an enormous chasm between Latin and Orthodox theology, and it can't possibly be glossed over.
>>80408017
I wish I were orthodox instead of being part of the cucked catholic church. But I'm polish, and that's how it goes.
>>80412941
Russia doesn't need Constantinople's permission.
They are recognized as autocephalous by Russia, just not by Constantinople or most churches. The reason for this is because if Constantinople recognized them, then that would mean the OCA had total jurisdiction over the U.S., which the Ecumenical Patriarch doesn't want.
This is the 5th thread I've seen on this. Pretty much the same OP too. What gives?
>>80412798
>Pope of Rome (who broke away from the Orthodox Church
stopped reading here. the Roman Catholic church was formed by the first pope, St. Peter. The orthodox split from the Roman Catholics, not the other way around.
>>80413260
I think a Polish Orthodox Church will be established when the Vatican starts promulgating a blessing for same-sex unions.
>>80413509
Peter only considered himself a regular bishop (1 Peter 5:1), not some special higher office.
He was the rock, sure, because of his vital role in founding the Church, but the rock is not some office passed on, Peter's chair isn't the rock, Peter's person is. The current Pope had no role in founding the Church, and Latin Apostates have no business claiming their Church is a continuation of the one Peter was in, Peter would be horrified by the Catholic idea that the Pope is Caesar.
>>80413509
>The orthodox split from the Roman Catholics, not the other way around
It was the Romans who placed a bull of excommunication in Constantinople. Also reminder that St. Peter was the bishop of Antioch before Rome.
>>80413713
>St. Peter was the bishop of Antioch in the first century
>orthodox church was formed in the 11th century
i fail to see the connection
>>80408017
PLZ NO BULLY, OR ME BOM U
>>80408017
>accept Islam and Muslims
>or else you'll make us kill all of you
Fuck me, this shit is too absurd.
>>80408017
>pic
Is this a fucking threat?
>>80414417
>>orthodox church was formed in the 11th century
This is wrong though.
>>80412371
Catholics worship the pope, a man elected by other bishops(men) as god's earthly voise.
This is burn at the stake tier.
>>80408017
SHUT UP! OR I WILL KILL YOU, INFIDEL!!!
t. peace price winner
>A Christian brother and sister from Syria felt blessed to have been among the dozen refugees selected to start a new life in Italy — but now say their savior, Pope Francis, abandoned them on a Greek island, according to a report.
>Their dreams were shattered when they were informed the following day that they would not be traveling to Rome. Instead, three Muslim families were taken.
http://nypost.com/2016/04/22/pope-francis-reneges-on-offer-to-take-in-christian-refugees/
>Pope Francis has hailed the election of London’s first Muslim mayor in a wide-ranging interview with a French newspaper.
>"When I hear talk of the Christian roots of Europe, I sometimes dread the tone, which can seem triumphalist or even vengeful. It then takes on colonialist overtones," Pope Francis said.
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/05/17/pope-francis-hails-election-of-sadiq-khan-as-mayor-of-london/
>>80415486
Don't see the Vatican opening their doors to refugees.
I guess washing their feet makes up for it.
>>80415076
>that pic
>roman catholic church papacy starting at 1054
lol no. it started with saint peter, 1000 years before
YOUR church started in 1054. why is this difficult for you? are you the one with the papacy starting with St. Peter, or are we?
>>80408017
Fucking hell those redpill levels are off the charts!
I hope there is an orthodox church in my city, might just pay them a visit.
>>80415659
The title started a lot earlier, but it didn't hold anymore authority than the Pope of Alexandria
We are called Orthodox for a reason you fucking heretics. It was primus inter pares ..
>>80414417
The Orthodox Church is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church founded in 33AD. The Romans were a part of it for a thousand years until they got too full of themselves and split from the other 4 Patriarchs and started changing doctrine like the Nicene Creed and celibate priests. They've drifted even further away since then especially after Vatican 2 whereas the Orthodox Church hasn't had a great ecumenical council since 787.
>>80415838
We also still actually prohibit usury
>Not only in Psalm 15:5 is this teaching found. It is a fundamental principle throughout the Word of God. In Exodus (22:25), Leviticus (25:37), and Deuteronomy (23:19) the charging of interest on loans is forbidden. Prophets like Ezekiel (18:13, 22:12) thundered against usury. Charging interest is clearly and strictly forbidden by God.
http://holytrinity-lansing.org/index.php/news/102/109/The-Sin-We-Stopped-Feeling-Sorry-For/d,betterDetails.htm
>Business expectations in lending, often ghostly becomes more profitable than the production of tangible goods. In this regard, it must be remembered about the moral ambiguity of the situation, when money is "make" new money without the application of human labor. Declaring credit sphere to be the main engine of the economy, its predominance over the real economic sector comes into conflict with the moral principles, reveled by God condemning usury.
http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/93828.htm
>Debt is usury and usury is enslavement, and enslavement is always a source of evil. Therefore, debt is always to be avoided as far as possible; at best it can only be a temporary necessary evil. Usury was and is forbidden by the Church. Catholicism, which for many centuries kept much of the heritage of the Church from the first millennium, forbade usury until the late 18th century.
http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/tag/usury/
more
>>80416062
>Dmitri Lubomudrov, the Orthodox Church’s legal adviser told the media at that time, “We realized we couldn’t stay dependent on the Western financial system, but must develop our own. As with the Islamic system, the Orthodox one will be based not just on legislation, but on Orthodox morality as well, and will be an invitation to businessmen seeking security at a time of crisis.” Among its features would be interest-free credit issuance and prohibition of investment in gambling casinos or such activities going against Church moral values.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/interest-free-banking-russia-debates-unorthodox-orthodox-financial-alternative/5495331
>>80408017
She literally says:
Ok guys, don't fuck with muslims, or they will terror you. But they are fine.
>>80415873
>it didn't hold anymore authority than the Pope of Alexandria
lol what?
>be orthodox church
>make cheap copy of catholic church in 1054
>try to make your own pope to establish credibility
yeah, no kidding they have no credibility. it's because the orthodox church had no legitimacy
>>80415974
The Roman Catholic Church is the one true church. orthodoxy are latecomers that split off like the protestants, jehova's witnesses and other pretend churches.
>if you kill your enemies, they win
>>80415659
>be byzantine empire
>contantinople founded by constantine as new rome
>have glorious empire for hundreds of years and ignore pope
>pope of rome gets butthurt and excommunicates constantinople
>keep on being orthodox
>fast forward a thousand years
>"yer church was founded in 1054!!11"
I don't think it works that way.
>>80416435
You are just heretic boylovers who disrupted the unity of the true church of christ because you wanted authoritah.
>>80408017
>Be Roman Catholic
>wish i was orthodox
>can't bring myself to go orthodox
Such life is hell
>>80416435
>orthodoxy are latecomers that split off like the protestants
lrn 2 history
>>80416062
>>80416088
Very nice, thank you for the information. How many Orthodox people exist in the world?
>>80416634
Could be worse m8
>>80416634
Born and raised Catholic too. I question the teachings somewhat after looking into Orthodoxy.. but regardless I still believe God will judge us on an individual basis.
Keep the faith brother
>>80416283
The day after the Catholic Pope said the Church must apologize to gays, the Orthodox Church in America made this statement:
>The statement outlines the Orthodox Church's "sincerely held religious belief" that marriage is "a lifelong, exclusive relationship between one man and one woman," and therefore any sexual relations outside of natural marriage "is immoral, and therefore sin."
>The encyclical continues, "We believe that God created the human race, male and female, and that all conduct with the intent to adopt a gender other than one’s birth gender is immoral and therefore sin
>Even more explicitly, the document states, "Marriage can only be between two people whose birth sex is male and female." The bishops cite the ancient Orthodox marriage service to show the prayers of the church reveal "In the beginning, Thou didst make them male and female."
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/orthodox-church-in-america-aims-to-protect-itself-from-lawsuits-with-strong
Coincidence?
>>80416694
About 300.000.000
>>80416694
300 million
>>80416830
what? nooo nononono that cannot be real.
>>80408017
So Muslims are just a mean comment away from blowing themselves up?
>this religion creates another terrorist anytime someone makes a bomb joke
>it's not a scourge upon the earth that needs to be wiped out
?????????
>>80408017
That Malala quote is fucking insane, It's unbelievable how some people might not see that
>"muslims are peaceful and tolerant, don't criticize us or you will all die"
>>80417134
It's the Church of Sweden, what did you expect?
>>80416830
fucking heretical cunt.
>>80417051
>>80417086
Not bad
>>80417420
Well, we may be fewer than the protestants or the catholics -But at least we are united :p
>>80415659
>>80415873
Will you faggots just suck each other's dicks already and make up. Christianity is dying and the Western world, and along with it all of Western culture will decline. We are at serious risk of being taken over by a Marxist-Islamic faction and you two are still arguing over who is the bigger Christcuck.
>>80417420
We're developed Western Rite too for evangelism, it's based on Medieval Western worship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI92g8JWwn8
Notice that carved icon
>>80417592
Vatican II makes reconciliation impossible, unfortunately. It's too heretical.
>>80417592
And think about this, "making up" for the Catholics means us submitting to their Pope, do you think giving Pope Francis authority over the Orthodox Church is going to save Western civilization? No
I tell you what will help, though, is Westerners getting a mass Orthodox movement going. We already got something like that with the Antiochians, who have a ton of Western Rite missions, and are now 70% converts in the U.S.
>>80408017
>be me
>obviously a Catholic italian
I don't know, man.
I not against ALL immigration, I'm against Muslim scum.
I don't care if you are a chink, a stinky Pajeet, a Sikh bro or a Christian nigger as long as you come here to work and respect my culture.
But if you are a Muslim I don't want you around. You may be a good worker but sooner or later you will start nagging with your stupid shit or your son will become a suicide bomber. No fucking way.
>>80408017
Is it the criticism that is wrong, or the ideology that creates terrorists just because someone criticises it?
Also I hate her smug, little face so fucking much I want to punch it.
>>80418425
R A R E
A
R
E
>>80416641
you learn it. your church was formed in 1054
>>80408017
>implying your denomination is "orthodox" for more than slavs and greeks
>>80418425
Uncommon cross
>>80416435
Trentians (practising a religion which began at the 16th Century council of the same name), are neither Roman, nor Catholic, nor a Church.
Ref.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Trent
>>80418425
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_James_Napier
A story for which Napier is often noted involved Hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition of Sati by British authorities. This was the custom of burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband. As first recounted by his brother William, he replied:
"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."
>It is a muslim custom to kill people they feel insult their religion, we see that often
>It is western custom to recognize the above as an act of war and respond in kind
>Let muslims practice their customs, and we shall practice ours too
>>80408017
i hope the taliban get them both.
>>80418847
I'm a Nordic-Anglo, so yeah, it is.
>>80419188
Stop it you are making sense.
>>80419068
>the Council issued condemnations of what it defined to be heresies committed by Protestantism
wow the Catholic Church formed a council to call out yet another heretical non-church. you sure showed me
>>80415486
fuck the pope. but catholicism is basically just club pedo. all they were ever good for is driving out the muzzies that one time.
>>80408017
How many times are you going to make this thread with the exact same picture fuck face?
>>80416830
im an atheist and i want to burn this bitch at the stake.
>>80418266
othodox just makes it sound old and not fun. should change name to something middle eastern sounding.
>>80420148
This is Orthodoxy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeRXbLAIPcU
>>80419188
This is very sad to read as Western Europe is officially no longer enforcing paragraph 2. Now it's more like:
>It is a muslim custom to kill people they feel insult their religion, we see that often
>We shall accept their customs and let them rape and kill as many of us they please, for at least we shalt not be concidered rasist
>Let muslims practice their customs
