Will he steal the convention, /pol/?
Ted Cruz seems more conservative then he's letting on, too bad America is so degenerate they didn't support his sex toy and porn ban.
>>80408591
LEAF
There's still a chance for a contested convention guys!
>>80407168
We need kasich to steal it if we really want to beat clinton
>>80408765
What did I say that's wrong? Please don't tell me you actually support porn and sex toys...
>>80407168
If Republicans want to lose, yes
>>80408966
They should be Monarchists then, republicanism is the most blue pilled form of government that exists.
>>80409181
fascism, brah
which isn't exclusive with monarchism I guess?
>>80409181
>>80409408
You support direct tyranny over indirect tyranny. You must be very special snowflakes.
>>80409408
The bible tells us to have a king, you're a country not a company why do you have a president?
>>80409643
I support HM Queen Elizabeth II, when my family came here to escape the oppressive republican government in the Soviet Union they made a pledge of allegiance to her and all her heirs.
It was under a monarch that we finally had freedom, rights and could practice our Christian faith without fearing for our lives.
>>80409668
No it doesn't. It refers to the fact that monarchy was almost the exclusive form of governance back then. The Bible says you need no king other than the Lord.
>>80407168
Trump will be stumped.
>>80409819
Nice anecdote. My ancestor fought against a monarchy to preserve the freedom of himself and his countrymen. Both monarchy and republic are poisonous to humanity.
>>80407168
HAND OVER THE DELEGATES, DONALD
>>80409859
Deuteronomy 17:15
Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.
>>80409962
wtf i'm a cruzmissle now
>>80410071
Okay that's nice, my ancestors were Christians so they supported the monarch
>>80408591
no anchor babbies please.
It would be a completely retarded move for the Republican party to not give Trump their full support.
With that said I'm sure the (((powers that be))) are applying some serious pressure on them to ditch Trump.
Unless he has been a plant this whole time. One of the only reasons I like Trump is because it seems like most people that are known establishment hate him.
This man is the whiniest little fucking bitch I have ever fucking seen who doesn't know when to fucking stop. Holy shit. Fuck Ted Cruz.
>>80410104
KEK
>>80410125
It's saying don't let foreigners rule your country. It's not saying "you need a monarchy". Again, "king" was the parlance of the time because there were no democratic republics (only nobles could vote in Greece and Rome) and communism/fascism hadn't been invented yet.
>>80410453
It says have a king, that means you have to have a monarchy. If God meant for us to have a Republic wouldn't he say "vote for your leader"?
>>80407168
If anyone "steals" the convention then the Republican and Conservative parties are both doomed to completely fall into irrelevance at least until Dems completely fuck everything up.
It'll be as bad as the death of the Whigs.
>>80410341
You have an iq of no more than 94 I guarantee it. You should stay out of such matters of importance and stick to video games and red bull
>>80410209
I'm sure Christ would rather we make Him our king than some entitled elite. We can live our lives just fine in a free market, without government, provided we keep to His way.
>>80410341
Hey buddy I think you've got the wrong door, the leather club's 3 blocks down.
>>80407168
The only way I would approve of Trump's nomination being stolen, is when ¡Yeb! would do it.
Slow and steady wins the race!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BNtP7tN8I
>>80410676
Jesus won't come down and rule our country
>>80410586
No, because that was not a common or even acceptable practice to the people of the age. It would make no sense for God to tell everyone to transition to a new, bad form of government. The idea is that they should have worked with the government they had to shift power to Christians non-violently, until they can rule themselves through love and cooperation. Really easy stuff anon.
>>80410853
>provided we keep to His way.
>we keep His way
>we
It's up to us to carry out His will on Earth (as is done in Heaven). He's there, we need only follow His way to render government obsolete.
>>80410961
So do you think what God said was the common acceptable thing back then? No of course not, that's why the Romans killed so many Christians.
Americans are the worst, you completely deny what it says in the bible because it doesn't suit your preferences. Face it, a Republic is degenerate and goes against what God asked us to do.
>>80411149
Too bad Christians hate it when you preach the bible, they don't want to do what God told them to do they want to do what an old man tells them to do even if it goes against the bible.
BLM will shut down the conventions
>>80408591
>limiting the rights of two consenting adults to do as they wish in the privacy of their own home
>"conservative"
???
It's only a matter of days until the #CruzMissile finally hits.
>>80411180
Idiot. I've stated twice now that I don't support a republic. I don't support government. I support Jesus Christ.
Christianity is supposed to SET US FREE FROM GOVERNMENT. It's supposed to teach us how to live peacefully and healthily, free from the corruptions of coercive authorities. Natural, non-violent hierarchy maintained by a belief system which emphasizes love, creation, redemption, forgiveness, and loyalty to God. If everyone were a devout and understanding Christian, we would need no rulers, and that's the point. Let God rule us.
whens the convention?
>>80411328
That's exactly what you're doing. I'm saying we only need God to live good lives, you're saying we need a king, you idolator.
>>80411368
When did I say I want to limit their rights?
>>80411529
GOD
TOLD
US
TO
HAVE
A
KING
>>80411690
How am I an idolator? Because I believe we must have a monarchy since that's what the bible says?
>>80411735
He told us to appoint a king from our own people, not a foreign people. This is only because monarchies were the standard form of governance at the time. You're a stubborn fool who can't into theology. GOD WANTS US TO BE FREE
>>80411928
Okay, so wheres your king?
>>80411795
Another thing, why do you think Jesus is called King if he doesn't run a monarchy? He's called King because his authority cannot be challenged. He conquered even death.
The people reading the Bible or having it read to them at the time wouldn't have understood if God said "appoint to thee a wise and noble leader who does not directly control the government or resources". People needed kings back then, and that's all they had. Now we can appoint a better kind of authority, a leader and not a ruler.
The politicians aren't going to matter at the Republican Convention, because there's going to be riots and bloodshed.
To put it in perspective, the convention is in Cleveland. Cleveland is 53% black. There's just no fucking way there aren't riots the entire week.
>>80412060
>This is only because monarchies were the standard form of governance at the time.
You're being obtuse. "king" was the only thing the people of the time could relate to.
>>80412277
Do you think people back then really understand everything in the bible? These things were ridiculous concepts back then.
Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge this one simple little verse?
This is what's wrong with Christians these days, we are our worst enemy we are choosing to ignore God
Hand them over Donald, we won them fair and square, rules are rules
>>80412413
Okay, great now can you answer my question? Where is your king? The bible very, very VERY clearly States you have to have a king.
I get it, you're an atheist or something because you don't believe in the bible but come on it's clear as day.
>>80412413
If God knew the future surely he could have used different language. Maybe "ruler" or "leader".
>>80412633
I know republicanism is part of the culture of America but it's unbiblical God told us to have a king, if you're a Christian you're a monarchist.
>>80412530
>This meme will be forgotten a year from now
What a shame.
>>80412742
I know. That's my point.
>>80412432
No, you're choosing not to address my point. You're ignoring reason, which is also bad. I'm not ignoring the verse, I'm arguing its interpretation. You're refusing to provide a case for your interpretation other than "duh it says this". If you can't understand the verse for its context, then you can't be getting much out of the Bible. I mean do you always ignore context when it comes to the Bible or just when it's convenient for you in conversation.
If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24
So should we stone adulterers, anon? Or should we place this verse in the context of Jesus's message and forgive them?
>>80412633
Which would have just meant "king" to anyone at the time. That's how power worked then.
>>80408942
>Kasich is funded by Soros
>>80413078
>>80412573
Does this verse mean every city must have a gate?
Does it mean you should only punish adulterers in the city but not out in the forest? Come on, man. These messages need to be analyzed, not just parroted for their most literal meaning.
>>80408591
Y'know how many jobs that would just destroy? Banning anything fucks with industry. The government should stick to building roads and protecting the peace.
>>80413078
You can't compare the two, Jesus never said "ignore the part about having a king, you can have a president too" if you're a Christian you're a monarchist you cannot argue against that.
>>80410746
Nothing more /comfy/ than Jebcore
>>80412742
>>80412742
See
>>80413078
>>80413390
If you're a Christian, you you want people to be free.
>>80413416
>destroy jobs that encourage taking away your virginity
Good, sex toys are disgusting
Trump met with Cruz on Thursday.
If anything he will have a role in Trump's lineup of all*'s.
>>80413531
I'm not replying to you anymore, every time I talk to an atheist it's the same thing I end up repeating myself a dozen times answering the same questions over and over and over again. No point in even trying anymore
>>80407168
>>80407168
If the RNC wants to lose this election, sure.
>>80413473
I can compare the two, you're not defeating my point at all.
Lets use yours:
>Deuteronomy 17:15
Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.
Does God himself appoint your king? If so, how? Does he choose from among your bretheren, your brothers, or does he choose from the population?
>>80407168
>Steal the convention
>Lose the election
>>80413742
I'm a Christian, you self-righteous fool. People like you who arrogantly assert their assumptions and can't dissect an opposing interpretation are what have given Christians the reputation of being blind in their faith.
>>80413814
>arguing with people that believe in sky fairies
>telling others what they should believe/how they should act
does your wife have a son
>>80413969
>God said do this
>but I believe that's wrong so I'm ignoring it
No you're not buddy
>>80414046
Your post implies I shouldn't be doing that, which means you're criticizing my actions/beliefs. That's what I'm doing with this particularly disingenuous Christian. Nothing wrong with suggesting a better way, anon.
Also, a great many Christians don't interpret God as a literal physical figure living above the universe. Read a book.
>>80414162
>Does God himself appoint your king? If so, how? Does he choose from among your bretheren, your brothers, or does he choose from the population?
Address this point and I'll leave you alone.
>>80408961
I support porn and sex toys!!
>>80407168
They literally can't. Most people I talk to think that Mr. Booger already dropped out. If they pick Cruz, they know for a fact that the Republican part will definitely lose, and a Trump (or some other anti-establishment figure) will most definitely win the next election.
You Cruzfags can cry all you want, but Trump is the only choice if you don't want Shillary.
>>80414523
Divine right of kings
>>80414609
That's really gross
>>80414420
>implying sky fairy wasn't an insult used to simplify their ridiculous beliefs
>using scientific logic against a person who doesn't believe in science
answer the question... does your wife have a son
>>80413657
What is with you people and chastity? Chastity is overrated! I've taken a girl's V card, it's not as fun as you think. No normal creature should bleed that much and survive.
>>80407168
woah... im a #cruzmissile now
>>80414756
Oh so God doesn't literally appoint the king, and he's not literally chosen from among your brothers, but from your nation. Gotcha. So those aren't literal but the "king" part is.
Maybe you'll see why you're wrong but I doubt it. You want monarchy so hard that you distort the Bible to justify your political persuasion. You happen to be posting on a board for people with alternative political opinions. Hmm. Maybe you're just lost and dogmatic. God be with you, anon.
>>80414756
>That's really gross
What? No, it's not.
>>80414889
>using insults instead of arguments
wew lad
>>80414979
It's not about fun, it's about what God commands from us. One of these is being abstinent until you're married.
>>80415188
You enjoy watching people have sex with each other? Or think it's okay for girls or guys to have sex outside of marriage?
>>80414979
Chastity preserves your sexual energy which is your direct connection to God through the divine mother/holy spirit. If you waste that energy by partaking in the forbidden fruit (orgasm), you sever that connection and lose the creative power you cultivate through sexual tension.
>implying jeb wont take it all in the end
>>80415377
It's totally normal, people did that in the roman empire all the time.
>>80415794
It's normal in some countries to cut off your foreskin, why don't you do that too?
>>80415794
Rape and murder are pretty common too. Beheading fags is standard practice in over 8 countries.
>>80407168
If they were still planning on stealing it from Trump at this point, I don't see why they wouldn't just go all the way and hand it to Jeb! instead
>>80414979
I've banged 46 girls, but none of them were virgins. You've deflowered a girl that had a perfectly good chance at becoming a good wife. You are scum.
>>80416372
If she would put herself out that way to someone she's not married to would she be faithful in the future?
wtf im a zodiacmissle now
>>80415843
>>80416140
Raping, murdering and cutting off foreskins are not consensual.
>>80416372
Setting yourself in opposition to someone by calling them scum just makes them resent you and double-down on their convictions. If you don't want your posts to be pointless, try inciting others into logical arguments and presenting to them incentives to change their behavior.
>>80416436
Point taken. Studies indicate less successful marriages with a woman having had more premarital sex... but maybe it's just correlation and not causation.
>>80416772
It doesn't matter if it's consensual, it's wrong. You're basically committing adultery when you watch porn, and sex toys are a substitute for a husband or wife.
>>80416772
Doing heroin is common and consensual. Guess you should start shooting up.
>>80416910
>implying I didn't come here just to shitpost
>>80407168
>>80416942
There is usually some degree of divergence, but I think the correlation is quite strong.
>>80416942
I think a lot of it has to do with the hyper sexualised nature of our society, it's not the norm to settle down anymore. Look at all the movies and TV shows about ladies night out, single women getting together and hooking up. Men are no better either, look at this ridiculous lock and key analogy they use to justify their behaviour.
>>80417037
Then that post should have been a shitpost, but it contains sincerity so it's not. Unless it was bait you tricky devil.
>>80407168
who?
>>80412277
Holy dubs
>>80416372
I'm also a minority. She was blonde hair/blue eyes. Maybe she'll know how to suck dick without teeth when she gets around to you.
>>80417546
>Holy dubs
KeK
>>80416666
>>80416666
>>80416666
>>80417546
God told us not to make any graven images of him.
>>80415540
>sexual repression
>pixie magic
Freud would have conniptions.
>>80417797
Oh, you're Orthodox.
Wait let me guess, you're not Orthodox, just a true believer, right?
>>80417962
Freud was inspired by these beliefs, not the other way around.
>>80412277
he was a leader u moron
>>80410746
>mfw I would not be mad if this happened
>>80418109
Yep. He was such a great leader that he was called King even though he didn't run a monarchy.
I think you misunderstood me anon, because it doesn't seem we disagree.
>>80417967
I have no idea what I would consider myself to be honestly, I was raised in a very, very anti Christian household and it's as only a few years ago I really discovered that I'm a Christian.
When you're not born into a certain denomination choosing one can be a bit hard but Orthodoxy from what I know seems to be the closest to the bible.
I suppose that's where I lean towards but I still have a lot to learn before I can say exactly what denomination I belong to.
>>80418207
He's been playing 5-D Chess this whole time while Drumpf is stuck at the 4-D level.
>>80418061
Yes, but he wanted to explain it scientifically. When you tell people shit like this, it makes us laugh at you. Not jerking off all the time sort of affects our psyche, but staying a virgin forever isn't the greatest thing in the fucking world. In fact, it makes you a loser.
>>80418441
Being a virgin doesn't make someone a loser, but there is a big difference between someone who is a virgin by choice and not. Someone on R9k who is just so pessimistic and their personality so repulsive shouldn't really celebrate scaring women away from them, but being abstinent by choice is something we should encourage more.
Too many people make it a life goal to have sex when it should be marriage instead.
>>80418406
too bad the jews are still playing 6D chess to genocide whites the whole time
>>80418360
Interesting. Anti-Christian household? That's not what I usually hear. Were they atheists or followers of a different religion?
So far I have to say I don't fit into a denomination, nor do I even like the concept. I'd like to see a new Church take hold and help lift everyone up from their sects and denominations into a more valid and potent form of Christianity. Emphasis on valid. We need to really sit down and analyze these teachings with the information we have gathered since the bible was written, but not to stray away from the Word as is being attempted by the New Agers.
>>80416977
Adultery should be legal and I shouldn't be forced to marry.
>>80418441
No, sex is fine, just not orgasm. Also, the practice is voluntary and you don't go to Hell for not following it. It's about elevating the consciousness.
>>80418877
God invented the game and he's playing 11-D Chess against the false Jews.
>>80418880
Atheists, mom completely hates all religions doesn't matter if it's Jewish, Christian, Islam or Hindu she hates all of them (she was raised in Hungary during the soviet times and is very pro soviet and communist which might explain this)
Dad never really talked about it, I knew he wasn't religious but he never talked about it. My mom was basically reddit, she'd always bring it up.
I think churches do more to push Christians away from each other, I understand sometimes there are things in the bible you might not really enjoy but you can't just go start a new church and say "here's a new church we do this instead" I think it's ridiculous. I just try and follow and live according to the bible the best I can.
>>80409181
lol wut?
>>80419278
I'm not saying we should pull things out, I'm saying we should collect the greatest theological minds we can to analyze Christianity and the Bible to such an extant that its mysteries are unveiled to even the most profane believer. We should uphold the creed while studying it for its deepest meanings. I'm not suggesting we make Christianity more modern, I'm suggesting we use Christianity to make the world more ancient. Dig?
The Church and the ancient mysteries should be one.
About your upbringing though, your mom's upbringing definitely explains her disdain for believers.
>>80419833
I don't know how much more analysing you can do for the bible, it's been looked over for so long by people of all faiths or lack of faiths, I mean how much more is there to look through?
The bible is probably the most studied book in history
>>80420065
It will always need to be studied again as nations evolve, die, and are born. For the rest of history, we will have to learn how to adapt our new societies to the Bible, not to adapt the Bible to our new societies.
Do you know of the mysteries? Do you know what they would do for common believers?
