What does /pol/ think about modern art? Pic related is the museum i am currently working in to finance my study. The ground is made of sand btw...
>>80355026
It's neither modern nor art.
>The ground is made of sand
Not lava. Pleb taste
>>80355026
My grandmother has millions of dollars worth of it. I sort of thought it was silly and pretentious as a kid, and that the Picasso drawings were the dumbest, simple, anyone could do them, not even just 1 of them but a series, literally bought to have a name so you could have an abstraction of wealth involving neither land nor currency.
>>80355026
It's a great way to make money at the expense of idiots.
My only complain is that I can't into that market (yet).
>>80355091
Its not art, i agree. Nevertheless its considered as 'modern art'
>>80355026
I'd also like to shit on a blank canvas and sell it for $100 000.How do I do it?
>>80355293
Oh yeah my grandmother is a wealthy jew and its literally like stuff kids could make made by like schizo or gay kids of rich people so they could codify war wealth (in this case WWII) into something abstracted from both currency and property and thereby not subject to the laws of either yet inheritable by heirs. Genius tactic imho but not long-lasting since the work loses all merit if it doesn't actually look good but rather represents being somehow novel to a group of rich people born at the same time, but nobody else.
>>80355453
Stick your hand up your ass and pull out some justification for your 'art' to exist like "well if you look at the shadow it's like a painting of YOU" then get rich
>>80355515
I was personally speaking from the perspective of making modern art, not of investing.
I'd much rather invest in other things.
I wouldnt mind making profit off of the shitty taste of other fools but I wouldnt want to contribute to extend the modern art cancer by buying it, if that makes sense.
>>80355453
>shit on canvas
>go to NYC, London or Paris
>worm your way into a crowd of "intellectuals"
>try to convince them you're a genius and the next Andy Warhol
>have them introduce you to some rich jew who buys it for triple what you asked for it because he thinks "it would totally look great in my foyer"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc
I've spoken a lot about it, it's actually unfair to call it modern art and I'd prefer you call it post modern art.
Unfortunately I'm a musician and only comment on how it affected music, the tldr is that after Wagner standards would either stagnate at the extreme top and real composers would become rare, difficult to find and paid ridiculously, or they would plummet to the depths they are to create a new artistic aesthetic that was inclusive and tolerant, all the post modern slave morality virtues. Art sellers and music producers needn't work hard to find content, since they've convinced art critics of the cult of ugliness and could essentially sell them paint squirted from an asshole.
Give me (you)s and I'll give you content, just don't expect me to comment aimlessly.
>>80355026
>The ground is made of sand btw...
that actually sounds kinda fun
money laundering
>>80355026
(((MODERN ART)))
>>80355760
You're confusing categories.
Hitler's art was about putting your soul to work to create a beautiful thing
Modern art is about putting your soul to work to earn money from idiots.
None of them are wrong
>>80355760
what the fuck, his "art" in the lower image looks like a hairy asshole
>>80355836
anyone can replicate the works of hitler from reading books
not everyone has the ingenuity and the bold style of picasso
>>80355760
are those pictures of assholes?
>>80355952
>looks like
I got some bad news for you....
>>80356016
So if I were to scribble on paper, it would be worth millions because it's MY scribble and no one else can scribble the same way
>>80355026
Jewish welfare and money laundering. Everything suddenly makes sense.
Also the CIA invented modern art as a subversion against communism, except it totally backfired.
>>80355760
tbqh hitler wasn't that talented
>>80356099
anyone can scribble on paper. but not anyone have contacts with the elites of this world and write artistic descriptions of their abstract work.
>>80356123
also remember that this CIA is the same CIA that introduced crack to inner city blacks by smuggling drugs through the corpses of Vietnam KIA.
So CIA money laundering.
>>80356133
what's the point of a school then?
>>80356234
A good 50% of modern art is "Untitled"
>>80355026
I thought it was shit until I saw 'The Power of Art
episode on Rothko. Now I think Rothko makes sublime art. I still fkn hate Picasso though
>>80356269
ego masturbation, exclusion, elitism, all the workings of jews
>>80356016
I doubt that.
Picasso was just a smart businessman.
There is no proof whatsoever that someone else didnt do what Picasso did first and is just not known.
All the hype surrounding famous artists is just marketing fabricated to sell.
>>80356133
people forgot during the time, hitler's artistic skill is commonplace there are much better portrait and landscape artists than him. he applied to the most prestigious school of art with redundant charcoal pieces instead of trying out a new, revolutionary style.
i mean he couldve applied there if he drew some art decor stuff but instead he decided to put his art studies in his resume.
>>80356123
Actually the Soviets... And it snowballed into everything wrong with society. Herbert Marcuse was funded by the Soviets too, and he's virtually responsible for what's happening to American ""colleges"".
>>80356269
Academia is absolute cancer, one of the most obnoxious places for the betterment of man and society.
Schools just want your money while they extort you and dumb you down
>>80356269
To teach people skills, not talents.
If you are going to school for a talent you are literally retarded.
>>80355026
>Modern ''''''''''''art''''''''''''
>>80356431
his abstract works are the most well known among other artists.
btw the personality, the soul and the quirks of the artist are detrimental to his success too.
everyone loves picasso.
>>80355026
I even think Trump wrote something in his book when his friend asked him if he wanted to see how he can make 25k before noon. He just splashed paint all over canvas and put it on sale.
>>80355026
>spent a few years in the art world in nyc
The art world is no different from any other luxury subculture; the curators and editors and tastemakers find the seasonal stars, hype them up for Art Basel and squeeze as much money out as possible.
There's talent, but it's a dog and pony show like everything else now. The illusion is more real than the reality, but there's some fun shit to look at.
>>80356508
>t. anti-intellectual
jesus no wonder /pol/ is getting stupider.
>>80355026
>this triggers the polack
Not all modern art is shit. Bad art just gets wider exposure than it did in the past because of the internet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gttdbqX4SWA
>>80356648
go back to your madrasa, shitskin
>>80356580
Everyone (as in the masses) always loves what is memed the most.
Picasso has one of the biggest marketing and promoting campaigns of any painter.
With big figures on any craft always look at their life, friends, connections and who backed their work with money.
>>80355026
I think this is plain bullshie, игe I talked to other artists, including professional and they keep saying
>This is an art different from representational painting.
>this is about making cool looking things with paint texture on them and shit
>if you'd have this thing you'd hang it on the wall because it looks and feels cool
That's the art's opinion on modern art.
They say it's a different form of art not to confuse with painting.
Which in dumbed down language would mean "not art"
>>80356648
You bought into the academia intellectualism bullshit if you think that way.
>>80355026
God that lighting is awful. And you should place Rothkos on high walls, wtf is this.
>>80356431
>There is no proof whatsoever that someone else didnt do what Picasso did first and is just not known.
Not so fast, the burden of proof is on you. It's like saying there is no proof the jews aren't lizard people.
>>80355760
Hitler had bad fundamentals by the standards of old strong academic drawing.
He didn't know a dick about perspective.
>>80356778
No it's not, the burden of proof is on any statement
>>80356704
>be uneducated piece of shit that nobody likes
>post on anonymous imageboards shitting on non whites and posting meme to feel better about his bleak future
have fun staying in your basement and rot
>>80356778
What I'm saying is an artist's fame has to do with its investors, not with his quality or talent which is always subjective.
>>80356758
most people that maintains and manages nations of their basic needs hold degrees from prestigious universities.
most kids cant pass MIT due to the sheer difficulty of their tests.
your experience in the world of academia is literally nothing, your opinion about them belongs in the trash can
>>80356133
t.b.h.
>>80355026
>The ground is made of sand btw...
that sounds pretty cool. walking around would be like being at the beach every day. how deep is it? can you make sandcastles with it?
>>80357030
this is actually a trace from a postcard
he just add color
>>80357020
But that has to do with politics and connections, not with talent. In art and in any other department and field of study.
Hence why academia is a mafia and why it is cancer.
You sound like a brown junglenigger that bought into the academia lies that promised you a bright future in exchange for money while giving you the chance of stemming away from your miserable origins, both of which are completely false
It's the same level of shit as has always been contemporary art.
There's always been a lot of shitty paintings and sculptures around we just don't see them because people tend to preserve the good ones.
Also if you think those beautiful Greek and Roman sculptures are presented today as they were in their contemporary times you're incorrect - they were painted in wild and gaudy colours which would look pretty bad through our cultural lens.
I don't know if you have old country house museums in Germany but, if you do, go visit some and see the kind of art that didn't make it into museums. Pic related; proportion? Perspective? What are those???
Hating 'modern art' is the artistic equivalent of 'born in le wrong generation'.
>>80356674
Also this, to an extent.
>>80356508
The horrible thing about academia is (1) leftist agendas and (2) the seclusion from work environment, all theory, no practical usage.
Also, lots and lots of unskilled drones.
>>80357030
Show it to /ic/ they wil outline many major fuck-ups with this picture.
the painting looks flat, the perspective is fuced on every tower and curved surfave.
>>80357211
I'd like to see you do better m80
Not much more needs to be said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art
>>80357240
this is the most kikey post i've seen in awhile. you actually believe it too. england is jew headquarters so i guess it's to be expected
art is now post-skill
if art is a reflection of modern society then it's spot on
what could be a better representation of modern culture than unhuman work made by someone other than the artist
>>80357414
The perspective is fucked up completely again, especially on the pillars.
Good colors though.
>>80357626
looks fine to me m8.
regardless of any imperfections its still 6000000000000 times better than a blown-up picture of a man's hairy asshole.
>>80355275
picasso is fantastic
>>80357240
>look pretty bad through our cultural lens.
I like it, but that's my subjective judgement. White marble is boring.
>>80355091
>>80356648
>stupider
>>80357721
I'm not a degenerate apologist but to intertain their point of view that's about
>Anus is something shocking to put on your wall so your guests would lose their shit about it.
Succesfull artistic equivalent of shitposting.
>Hitler's art is a failed amateur representation of objective reality
By today's standards he'd pass into every institution though, the standards dropped dramaticly, but back the people were serious about art and standards were much highter.
I went to MOMA in new york city.
I don't know. Some stuff they have is really neat. Others not so neat.
>>80355026
>What does /pol/ think about money laundering?
>>80358003
>>80358003
youd think this place is smart?
its full of fuckin idiots that cant differentiate sarcasm
>>80355026
Im not sure how long I could pretend to be interested in varying squares of gradients
I'd rather have the /pol/ consensus on my literal turd.
>>80357240
Still better and more talented than modern srt
>>80357806
picasso was an average artist,
his appeal to the west is in the image of the proto-artist
so when you see young girls walking around wanting to be a 'photographer' with their new DSLR they are buying into the image of artist, which is why picasso ranks so highly, not because of his skills but because he presented a lifestyle package.
it satisfies the question 'what do you do?'
and fills in the need for meaning in ones life
no one cares if picasso made a music album
they only want picasso the artist
>>80358193
>He thinks sarcasm can be interpreted over text
>He confuses facetiousness for sarcasm
They don't have schools in the Islamic States yet do they?
>>80356850
maybe so, but I think the reason he didn't get accepted was because he applied right at the rise of the modernist era. what he was doing was simply not extreme enough for these assholes.
if you ask me, picasso was an untalented fuck too. but he gets praise because he fucked with perspective "on purpose" or something
>>80358193
you must be new to the internet
>>80358335
picasso's works were bold
he's the andy warhol of the early 1900's
>>80358335
>>80357877
Most white marble statues and buildings weren't white.
Romans painted all their statues and buildings, for example.
So did greeks
>>80358514
you know andy warhol was taking the piss out of art right?
he only wanted fame
>>80356133
More talented than all modern artists
>>80355026
In the old days modern art took on the art galleries run by the establishment. In the early 20th century prestigious american art galleries refused to display modern art. 19th century french artists mocked the official 'academy' style and held their own exhibitions of rebellious art.
Now that is all turned on its head. Today modern art couldn't exist without the major art galleries.
Take this picture with a floor covered with sand. This 'installation' or work of 'art' couldn't exist without the gallery. If you took the sand outside people wouldn't know it was art. They'd think it was part of a building project. However, placed inside the gallery, with arrows pointing to it and signs telling everyone what it represents, it suddenly becomes 'art'.
In other words, art galleries are necessary for the existance of 'modern art'. Take away the galleries, and all you have are a collection of random objects and junk.
'Modern art' used to be a rebellion against the establishment; but now it would cease to exist without the establishments help.
>>80355026
>sand
>not fake seeds
>>80358240
Most of it, sure. That's my point though. There's a reason the Maxwell family decided to commission and preserve that painting instead of rejecting or selling it. Had it been truly terrible, as a lot of art from all periods is, they wouldn't have kept, let alone displayed, it.
>>80358593
So what your saying is once again the French ruined something great and undermines western societies
>>80358360
the average intelligence of the people here are so low they got their asses up in pain just because of the smallest shit
you dumb fucks dox random people online just because they disagree one bit your fucked up, anti social narrative
please hang that pale, fat, unemployed neck of yours
>>80358710
no gives a single fuck, mud skin
most irrelevant country on earth
muslim shithole
>>80358585
anti art is an art movement in itself.
he gave birth to many styles and encourages artists to step out from their comfort zone
a truly aspiring legend.
>>80358710
It's not art, it's simply trying to do something different because very few people have the talent to create a beautiful painting or piece of "art". The talented painters and sculptors of time past were rare - in the current age of relativism, of "muh feelings" and "don't judge me" we do not have honest critique required. Each piece of modern "art" is considered beautiful in it's own way, each piece has infinitely deep meaning, etc...when in reality they are just ugly, classless mixtures of clay and paint. FEW pieces of modern "art" can be considered art, and even FEWER are created by people with real talent for it.
>>80358781
you drank the koolaid,
go back to school
>>80358710
Jesus Christ what is wrong with you.
You must be a poor junglenigger that has only recently had access to the internet and 1st world living so you shill for the shit groups that promise you false improvement.
>>80358763
>>80358788
you heard me. fucking no life, no job, angsty fucks
no wonder they call you hitler's children, just a bunch of keyboard warrior, pale skinned pussies
>>80358601
AI's stuff is pretty based.
>>80358781
That's the gayest thing I've heard in a long time. Warhol is about as talented as a wet fart and he'd probably agree with me.
>ha yeah man look how cool my shit is I just took on the ground real anti establishment so it's cool
picasso age 15
>>80358892
isnt malaysia part of china yet?
might as well be since their blood has been diluted with the Han gene
>>80358887
all the libshit sites i go with whites with normal lives tend to ignore people from 3rd world shitholes
this is the only place where i can find the bottom feeders of the western civilization ie; (you)
i just need to be smart a bit thats all.
>>80358964
What went wrong
>>80359024
see this shit? motherfucker probably thinks half of his country is chinese.
how bout you step out from your house and be useful sometimes. try getting some sun you fuckin deggo.
>>80355026
The dimples on the floor is the artwork.
>>80358601
that display was awesome.
every single one of those "seeds" was painted by hand.
it was the best thing ai weiwei has ever done.
i went to see it several times. one day i saw a couple of guys stealing some of the seeds. they probably thought they could sell them on ebay for a massive amount of money. but of course there were loads of the seeds that were left over, spares etc so they aren't worth very much.
>>80359027
*feeders of the western civilization that are willing to give a shit about me
holy fuck, you fuckers are fucking pathetic. so this is what a trump supporter's utopia looks like
>>80358892
there is no need to be quite so angry, kawan
>no wonder they call you hitler's children
mein kampf is a big seller in malaysia. muslims love it
>>80359156
Wow that guy was really making a statement
>>80355275
>literally bought to have a name so you could have an abstraction of wealth involving neither land nor currency.
Isn't gold a much safer investment than paintings?
>>80359047
Opium
>>80355026
Pretext for spoiled liberal faggots who don't know how to paint and don't want to study stuff that actually matter.
You know back then art was something you had to refine over the course of years, nowadays any fag can pick a canvas, make a shitty doodle and call it art. All this for the sake of modernism where everyone should be equal and have the same oportunities.
>>80359579
>pick a canvas
lel
People have been selling photoshop stuff for years now
>>80359579
Isn't freedom great :^)
>>80355026
Hm, really makes you think
>>80359579
>You know back then art was something you had to refine over the course of years
It still is. The difference is that these artists work in the entertainment industry now.
>>80355091
FIRST POST BEST POST
>>80355026
Ths is the approxiate answer i got from my sister in uni studing art when i asked her how a dot on a canvas counts as art
"If it makes you angry (i wasn't but very well) it's art, and only dumb people can't see that it's art"
>>80359451
better than any individual painting, almost certainly, for 99.999% of people
however, there are funds and indices that investors can buy into that are worthwhile as part of an overall asset allocation strategy. as a general rule, one should have about 5%ish invested in gold, maybe another 5%ish in alternative investments. more than that is not really worthwhile.
>>80358781
You are right. It's supposed to be ironic, but that doesn't mean it has value.
You see, the people that appreciate anti-art don't actually consider it anti-art. The audience is stupid.
The people who abuse this audience are hacks.
Post-modernism is an absolute joke.
>art
>>80359767
Like......?
>>80359813
This is dumb, if I say a joke and you laugh, is it art ?
>>80355026
It's shit because of relativism. Once you accept that relativism is the cause of 90% of what is wrong with the modern world you have taken your final redpill
>>80359876
post modernism brought in cartoons and simplified caricatures
polandball and all these memes you see on the internet is technically part of the post modernism movement
things that challenges reality.
>>80359909
Art is a mastery over a form. It's that simple.
>>80356850
He got rejected for not having enough life drawing, portraits etc. He was more into landscape and architecture, which even today art schools see as inferior compared to the billionth drawing of someone with their tits out.
t. Painter tired with /ic/s anatomy/life drawing obsession
>>80360008
>A
>Fucking
>Dot
>Form
Most modern conceptual art is shit. Some of it is good if the concept behind it is interesting. But most of it, the only concept is that the worthless lukewarm artist owes the university about 100k.
>>80355026
>not knowing Modern Art was genuinely a CIA Op designed to promote art styles that were against the collectivist and utilitarian approach of the USSR
why do you think it's all about the individual freedom and pointless abstract shit? the CIA came out years ago saying they were funding and pushing it during he cold war to beat Russia in the culture war
>>80357064
OP here, the sand is about 5cm high
>>80360140
conceptual = abstract
>>80359891
I'm talking about industries like film, television and video games. The people peddling modern art are a small minority of professional artists.
Heres the best way to put it: the artist scene is welfare for rich people
>>80360220
You can concept new thing based on existing ones. Abstract is not working this way.
>>80360316
>Fablic
Chinese?
>>80355026
Fuck that oversized catbox
Fuck modern art
>>80355026
>"YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS HIGH LEVEL INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION YOU FUCKING CIS STRAIGHT WHITE CHRISTIAN TRUMP SUPPORTER RACIST BIGOTED MALE
>>80360316
Is Fablic a type of cheese? It looks nice
>>80355026
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as "Modern art", is in fact, "Post-mordern art", or as I've recently taken to calling it, Post-modernism plus Art. Art is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a self-devouring post-modern system made useful by the (((patrons))), (((universities))) and (((pretentious iconoclasts))) comprising a lacking genre as defined by common sense.
Many artists use a modified version of the art they learned in school every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of art which is widely used today is often called "Modern", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the post-modern system, developed by Duchamp.
There really is a Modern Art, and some people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Art is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the genre's resources to the other media that you view. The kernel is an essential part of an artistic genre, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete movement. Art is now normally used in combination with the Post-modern system: the whole system is basically Post-modernism with art added, or Post-modern art. All the so-called "modern art" distributions are really distributions of Post-modern art.
>>80359995
symbolism isn't the same as abstraction, and I think that on a qualitative level most post-modernist abstraction is garbage.
>>80355026
Daily reminder that if you think all or even most contemporary art is bad, regardless of the medium (painting, sculpture, literature, film, lit) you're an uneducated le born in le wrong generaton faggot who needs to leave /pol/ and 9gag and go to museums, gigs, bookstores and cinemas instead to expose yourself to good stuff instead of finding stupid examples of 2deep4every1 abstract painting on the internet and genuinely assume all contemporary art is that.
>>80361181
But my sister who is an art student literally defended a fucking Black Dot on a white canvas.
Wouldn't she be exposed to 'good' art?
>>80361302
My point is that a lot of contemporary art is brilliant and it's not all abstract stuff like that, not that your sister isn't potentially retarded and has awful taste. I also know English students whose favourite author is John Green, so I don't really see your point.
>>80355760
Hitler was shit, my grandpa literally paints like that, and he does it for a hobby.
>>80361181
I agree. There are very good pieces of modern art that are not qualified as "post-modernist", these artists use modern equipment and are able to rival the ancient greats.
Pixel art, glitch art, graphic design (vaporwave), 3D sculpting, modern architecture, etc.
>>80361302
yeah your sister probably isn't likely to get any of her work into MOMA or Tate though is she
>>80359027
Chinese tropical forest sandnigger butthurt incoming
>>80361853
Well in school she got multiple distinctions and rewards, as well as a scholarship for art but i don't know, maybe i'm wrong.
>>80359813
She's not entirely wrong, but this misses the main issue; if it's art, is it good? Artfags like to pretend there is no objectivity in art, but that is flat out wrong. Anything can be considered art, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's good art.
>>80361181
Film: Béla Tarr
Painting: Jamie Wyeth
Literature: László Krasznahorkai (pomo af but not in the meme way)
Music: Arvo Pärt
All examples of contemporary artists in different fields that not only aren't a meme but are on par with the great artists of any period.
>>80361302
Depends what she studied as an art student.
Is she an 'Art' student, who studied history of art, and the theory of appreciating post-modern bullshit?
Or did she do actual applied arts, where she learned and applied the fundamentals of art so she could actually contribute to the artistic community?
>>80355026
https://youtu.be/9Hkov3QcCpQ
>>80362214
Don't know
>>80355308
no, really. it's postmodern or conceptual art, not modern art.
>>80362283
Sam Hyde is amazing. How the fuck does this guy get booked for shit like this?
Art, like architecture has died a slow and humiliating death.
Something witch I aim to change when we have our cultural and spiritual revolution.
THIS is good art.
>>80363053
THIS is good architecture.
We need to go back.
>>80355026
That looks pretty comfy desu. Just put in some deckchairs and friendly light in that room and I could myself relaxing for an hour in that room. I wouldn't call that art though, just nice interieur.
>ever modern art thread
>>80355026
>colors
You call this modern art?
>>80363053
>>80363148
Spot the le born in le wrong generation uncultured faggot (You)
I sincerely hope you are being ironic.
>>80363676
t. Art major
>>80355026
This looks pleasant but holy fuck if anyone thinks it is some masterpiece of even deserves money they are clearly retarded.
>>80363676
t. liberal arts major
Sry that i dont enjoy souless glass buildings and period blood paintings. Perhaps i really am an uncultured svine.
>>80360040
>>80358374
He was rejected because while he scored modestly on his art exam, he excelled at draughtsmanship, they thought it would be a waste of his true talent not to pursue that.
>>80364858
Tell me where the truth ends and the bait begins. Cause im only seeing the truth.
>>80364980
oh fuck sorry i though you were saying the opposite
>>80365082
Oh okay, its alright kangaroobro we all make mistakes.
>this is considered art
>It was sold for £2.5 million
>>80364683
>Sry that i dont enjoy souless glass buildings and period blood paintings
>Unironically believing all contemporary architecture is souless glass buildings and all paintings are done with period blood.
Yes, you are an uncultured swine.
>>80355688
very informative video top soundtrack too
anyone who wants to be able to justify their hatred of postmodernism should watch this, it explains why it's inherently trash and why -unless it's been conditioned out of them - people have an innate disdain for this sort of bullshit.
>>80355026
The numbskull elite who purchase art are fun to laugh at. You can own the physical work of art, but you can't own the experience or achieve a monopoly of its perception. Even if you locked it away, you couldn't ensure that the one time I saw that work of art I enjoyed it more than you ever could. Art has been in an odd place, but things will change very soon, given economic upheaval and developments in aesthetic theoryz
>>80355026
Here what USSR thought of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO9GocfHyv0
>>80365459
It was a somewhat joky example my simple minded friend.
I have personally visited many contemporary art galleries and never once seen anything i truly liked. Except for a few fountains and public instalations that were fun for kids i havent really seen anything worthwhile or meaningful and every new building that gets build in my city is a soulless pile of garbage.
Show me a good example of modern art then.
Modern art is a good metaphore for the exhaustion of the current social system and generally western civilization.
There's nothing "new" to create so they create art which consist of the must mundane and meaningless things because they want to be "artists" rather than creating art.
So they study art and imitate art but artists of the past created at which came from within and it had personal meaning and certain depth to it.
You cannot "study" art and be an artist. You can study the technics and whatnot, but you cannot study having a complex, innovative and thoughtful personality.
Thats why you wont get Jules Vernes or Hemingways out of writing class, and thats why you dont get great artists from "art school". Or you wont get great musicians out of conservatories.
Sure you might be a good artist who learned the trade but you'll never be a "great" artist.
Also lets not forget modern art seems to always take the easy route and it's very rare to see something complex which required time and a lot of effort.
I remember reading about some teacher complaining that art students today dont even learn to draw at all. Most of their "art" consist of digital image manipulation, making (((ironic))) statements and trying to be edgy.
Art is about innovation, so you shouldn't look back and say "this was better" because you cannot take art out of its context. You cannot start making huge cathedrals again, or making baroque music again. It's been done.
But the modern art, i.e. post-modern art we have today is just cancer, and it's not a coincidence it's also extremely jewish.
You can do that in Microsoft Office
not the sand though, sand makes things art
>>80366704
>You cannot start making huge cathedrals again, or making baroque music again. It's been done.
I agree to a certain point. But what was Renaissance if not a revival of previous ideals and styles? I believe we can go back, there will always be some innovation and change but the core can change back to something that has already been done for sure.
>>80359548
Either that or lead paint
>>80367027
Believe it or not people were opposing the Renaissance ideas just as much. Art is and has always been controversial.
>>80355275
>Picasso drawings were the dumbest, simple, anyone could do them, not even just 1 of them but a series
Not saying anyone could, but there's a Dutch art forger who rather famously DID paint entire series of 'Picasso' paintings, going so far as to have 1 of them authenticated by Picasso HIMSELF! Picasso didn't seem to remember painting it, and inspected the style, materials and signature and finally asked how much the owner payed for it. When the forger named the price, Picasso said 'If you paid that much it must be one of mine', and signed for it's authenticity.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/master-art-forger-exhibits-own-work-and-fakes-1.753660
>Some 1,600 canvasses were seized upon his arrest, but prosecutors could never convict him because no gallery was prepared to come forward as a complainant.
He himself has claimed that there are multiple works by his hand, but under forged signatures, still in galleries and musea around Europe, kek.
>>80355026
>The ground is made of sand
Pfft, amateur.
>not covering the floor with peanut butter.
The Stupidity of modern art explained:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc&index=71&list=FLN_0WnioRVzKc5tgXkhlokA
>>80367475
What did they mean by this?
>>80355026
It's designed to be ugly, shitty, and confusing. Artists couldn't find political causes to be edgy about and so they started putting crap artwork out there that is aesthetically displeasing and other edgy artists started calling it art too.
Then normies who just trust what art critics say assumed there was something they weren't getting and went along with it so they didn't look stupid.
>>80366143
>It was a somewhat joky example my simple minded friend.
Pic related. Nice backpedal.
>I have personally visited many contemporary art galleries and never once seen anything i truly liked.
I guess that automatically means all modern art is bad. Born in le wrong generation much? xD
See >>80362207
I like Andrew Wyeth over Jamie but he died in 2009 so those are all living artists. I quite like Whyn Lewis as well but I don't think she's particularly amazing, just a very personal thing I'm into, really soothing stuff.
I admittedly don't care for architecture as much as I do for the other forms I mentioned so I'm not very educated on that. But if you're triggered by glass it makes sense you won't like a lot of it. I could give examples of buildings I like but it wouldn't mean a whole lot because it would all be based on uneducated opinions as opposed to the other fields mentioned, where I do have some theoretical as well as practical knowledge.
DUDE COVERING THINGS IN A LARGE AMOUNT OF FABRIC LMAO
>>80359451
One word
>scarcity
By owning art you have assets that are one of a kind and nobody else can have, no matter how rich, until you decide to sell.
>>80367475
yummy
Hitler tried to prevent this
jüdenscheisse
Degenerate art (German: Entartete Kunst) was a term adopted by the Nazi regime in Germany to describe virtually all modern art. Such art was banned on the grounds that it was un-German, Jewish, or Communist in nature, and those identified as degenerate artists were subjected to sanctions.
>>80367734
Not sure.
But when people say it's weird, he replies "if everybody put peanut butter on the floor, it would be weird to put it on your bread"
Maybe he just hates people with peanut allergies.
He also made this giant turd.
>>80366091
That's really interesting.
And it is artistic, too.
>>80355026
modern art? modern crap!!
>>80355026
this is not art, its a ruse, its only reason is to ruse those who get angry at non art being called art
this is also a thing jew like to promote
>>80355269
Underrated
>>80355026
Modern art isn't fucking art. Fucking degenerates.
>>80355688
Who started this trend?
>>80367993
>>80359813
This is literally the logic she used when talking to me
>>80367763
For the record, I am not defending a lot of mainstream contemporary art. I don't dismiss it entirely because I can't be bothered to learn about it due to a lack of interest, but I think a lot of it is a meme, so I just let it be. My only point is that there's still very good stuff being done that follows while building upon the classical tradition. Of course, this isn't mainstream these days, but operating under the assumption that this type of art doesn't exist simply because most people aren't exposed to it and it's something you have to go our of you way to seek is retarded.
>>80355026
I think these two screencaps sum it up perfectly.
>>80368288
>>80355026
>modern art?
looks like home depot paint selection selection area.
where you take the little paint sample cards.
>>80355026
Complete scam run by a bunch of autistic faggot scam artists who can't actually do it or compete with classic art so they come up with this faggotry instead.
>>80368288
both pieces are fucking shit. who the fuck wants to look at some silly dragon? it isn't instantly art if something looks all right. if you can't understand this you shouldn't try to talk shit about it.
>>80367475
>not covering the floor with peanut butter ON A GOVERNMENTAL SUBSIDY
If you're going to do it, might as well go pro.
>>80367993
>But when people say it's weird, he replies "if everybody put peanut butter on the floor, it would be weird to put it on your bread"
But people don't put peanut butter on the floor. We put it on bread which means that he, on top of being weird, is a shameless imbecile that spilled many many calories with of food that lasts for a long time.. He could have _literally_ shipped those buckets of peanut butter to some place where starving humans could use some protein.
At least some modern art is good.
Like this piece, which was placed in front of the entrance to a children's exhibition.
(it's the Dutch version of "big bird" from sesame street)
>>80356016
What book do I read to kill 6 million Jews?
>>80368545
kek, i agree with you on that
>>80356287
Rothko's works are aesthetically pleasing. They're simple but still appealing.
>>80368686
The same artist made this from his dead cat.
He is truly a master of our time.
>>80355026
It's mostly fucking shit, but occasionally it has something that actually looks good.
>>80368844
>>80368545
Wow, so deep. I'm going to dig up my dead dog and glue a bunch of shiny glitter to it and dance around it's decayed glitter corpse for an art project because it's art and it's really deep. You wouldn't get it
>>80355275
>Picasso
>modern art
into the trash
>>80356545
talent is just pursued interest
>muh janetics
opinion discarded
>>80368510
> it isn't instantly art if something looks all right. if you can't understand this you shouldn't try to talk shit about it.
The quality of aesthetics alone aren't enough to rule something out as art, I'll agree, but surely the complete lack of aesthetics embraced by modern art isn't something to strive for.
Surely when you get to the point where people start mistaking trash for modern art, or vice versa, something's gone wrong.
>>80369244
Commit Sepaku
>>80369244
He never claimed it was "deep".
He just does it becasue it's hilarious, nothing more.
Art doesn't have to be "deep".
In fact, being "deep" is generally a sign of being shit.
Before government funded art schools no artists tried to be "deep".
>>80368545
>At least some modern art is good.
The ones who put in a fucking effort are good.
I'm a big fan of Mueck's slice-of-life sculptures
Kind of annoys me but then I realize it's probably just a money funneling scheme for criminals. I do like art in general mostly because I make it.
>>80355026
How could one delude themselves so much that they consider this art? Go on Photoshop, paint bucket blue, apply gradient, done.
>>80355091
F P B P
there is no art anymore.
anyone involved in an 'arts' based degree should quit immediately.
>>80369903
>I'm a moron
cool
When I went to the Smithsonian American Art Museum I couldn't believe how fucking stupid shit was. Here's a few examples
>There was a room that was blocked off so you could only look inside, but not go inside. It was empty with a lamp in the corner and some sand dumped in the middle of the floor
>Literally about 300 different paintings scattered throughout the museum were just 100% blue. Like you took a bucket tool on ms paint and clicked. They were all from different artists
>Statue of a guy masturbating that looked like a 5 year old made it
>3 security guards in the gift shop making sure you didn't touch anything unless you were going to buy it. It was just the same worthless shit that is is every gift shop, cheap toys and kid books
>Special exhibit set up like a small movie theater. Once you went inside and sat down the projector showed a picture of a random apartment building with sad music, after a few minutes it turned off and the next group came in
>Several huge paintings at least 10' across that were one color on one side, another on the other half and nothing else
>Not a single piece of art or sculpture that looked like a 5 year old couldn't do it
>Literally not one
What does /pol/ think of John William Godward?
>John William Godward(9 August 1861 – 13 December 1922) was an English painter from the end of theNeo-Classicistera. He was a protégé of SirLawrence Alma-Tadema, but his style of painting fell out of favour with the arrival of painters such asPicasso. He committed suicide at the age of 61 and is said to have written in his suicide note that "the world is not big enough for myself and a Picasso".[1]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_William_Godward
>>80355026
Someone played with gradients in PS?
>>80355760
I guess thats why they have become less pick for art, the last time they rejected someone, nazism was created.
>>80363676
have you seen modern architecture, it's fucking abhorrent, bring back art deco.
Like just fucking look at this monstrosity, it's not even the worse out there
>>80355091
fpbp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANA8SI_KvqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esvn7NgTq4Q
>>80370957
I give it 3 weeks until a kid climbs up the side and kills himself trying to use it as a scatboard ramp
>>80359880
This one is pretty interesting. I mean it's not the sistene chapel or anything but it's cool.
>>80359880
this is a "professional """""artist""""""? I can do better with photoshop than this and I just taught myself enough to make stupid images on an anonymous cartoon porn website
lmao people make money for this? ahhahhahahahahahhahaha
>>80370957
You want ugly, check this out.
The Smithsonian museums are known not just for their exhibits but the classical designs of many of the structures themselves - the classic greco-roman architecture of the Art and American and Natural History museums, the gothic architecture of the Institution, the modern architecture of the Aerospace museum, etc etc etc.
pic related is the new Museum of African American History and Culture, located kitty corner from the fucking Washington Monument
>>80363529
I actually cried a little when I saw that picture and remembered the world nowadays
>>80358514
warhol was a polish jew
>>80371993
also, it's nothing special, i've seen several of these cube type buildings all around europe and the us
>>80371993
>Museum of African American History and Culture
>(((Culture)))
not surprised
>cries internally
>>80356648
Oh please teach us le educated and enlightened one. Our lack of higher "education" is make us teh dumb. We simply can not comprehend your superior ideals and opinions.
>>80355026
I can do pic related on fucking GIMP.
>>80372280
im from solihull and every time i go into the town centre and see that and the bullring i feel like crying
utter fucking monstrosities. at least the town hall is nice
>>80371993
it looks like a stack of those decorative baskets that you see around rich people's houses
>>80372400
Yeah that's the problem it clashes so badly with the rest of the buildings...not that Broad Street is the centre of culture or anything but it's just a fucking mess...and waste of money.
>>80355026
looks like a corrupt N64 game
>>80356648
lmao you're an educated faggot who circlejersk and makes up meaning for meaningless """""art""""" gj jacking eachother off over who's more (((enlightened))) you dumb bitch
>>80355679
So the final phase of your plan is to actually jew a jew?
>>80360151
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy shit, you're right. Just looked it up:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
fresh from /ic/ here.
Modern art is a fucking joke, it's literally just people who cant make good art, so they make shitty art and act like it "means something". Then when people say they don't understand it, the so called "artists" get to laugh and act like intellectuals. It's all about stroking their ego since they didn't get accepted into art school/failed highschool art class.
>>80373582
>>80360151
*cia calls random art prof at faggot univ #731*
>hey we want to pay you to be more arbitrarily elitist and snobbish with no actual substance
>sign me up, senpai
>>80355026
Not even gonna read the thread, this reactionary shithole definitely hates modern art, not our fault you're all so retarded.
t. painter
