Post REALISTIC electoral maps
I honestly don't know how Trump can pull off the W. PA seems to be trending red, but FL is trending blue
>>80330129
Wrong
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>>80329545
Change Nevada to red, Californians have only ruined Vegas and most of Clark County.
most accurate one
>>80329545
>Ohio
>blue
Keep dreaming.
>>80333270
>NM, NJ, NC, FL, WI
>red
>OH
>blue
I admire your optimism, anon.
>>80333270
NM and NJ are permanently Blue. Probably PA as well. And very unlikely WI or IA suddenly go Red.
> try again
>>80329545
CO is barely a blue state thanks to all of the conservatives in the east. I can easily see them going red for Trump.
>>80333411
Lol I knew that NJ was gonna be a little hard for people to grasp, 80% of all republicans voted for trump, that doesnt even include the around 10% more people voting for trump in NJ that are other Republicans, it also doesnt include the 5% New voters Turning 18 that are voting trump
NM is the same, NC FL AND WI all make sense and Ohio Im thinking will go blue due to cleveland and columbus mass blacks and liberals
>>80332441
breh are you having a stroke
>>80329545
Kek. Hey subhuman libtard. Does posting this make you feel better about the fact that Trump will win? You fuckers are so desperate it's beautiful.
>>80329545
>>80332441
read this as if you were yoda. it makes more sense....
This is about right. Screencap this post, etc
>>80332062
Like this
>virginia
>red
Why do you think so?
>>80334133
It bugs me that such a majority of the nation votes one way but because there's such high population centers in five states it throws everything to shit
IF YOU DON'T MAKE OREGON RED I'LL SNAP YOUR SHIT
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>>80329545
>realistic election map
>nc going blue
>realistic
>>80334595
Yup. It will only get worse though.
>>80334384
That's if there were no election fraud.
And if only tax payers could vote, the whole thing would be red.
This is the accurate map
Texas is not colored as they have seceeded after the racewar.
>>80332441
wtf is this. It's like a CTR bot is on the fritz.
>>80334384
This has to be bait
>>80329545
>>80332062
He's going to win PA, FL, and OH. If you believe crap like Reuters polls with a double-digit DEM oversample then I can't help you.
http://axiomstrategies.com/abc/
>>80334638
We got eugene and Portland, so we will always be blue.
>>80335255
>Oregon
>Red
w e w
>>80335154
If he wins those 3 states then he'll win the election. But the last time PA went red was 1972 and the state has gone more liberal.
>>80335423
I'm possible the overwhelming majority of these threads are just bait. Especially the posts that show Trump winning NY
>>80335423
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/or/oregon_trump_vs_clinton-5892.html
>>80329545
Trump is going to win Pennsylvania, Florida, and NC you fool. Good chance of New Hampshire and Virginia as well. Ohio will be a tossup.
>>80335588
>the last time PA went red was 1972
Are you retarded?
>the state has gone more liberal
Current polling suggest otherwise friendo.
>>80335827
Kek willing, this year we will paint New York RED.
>>80335827
>Virginia
What makes you say that?
>>80335836
Sorry, it was 1988. My mistake.
>Current polling suggest otherwise friendo.
Source?
>>80336096
https://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2345
>>80335154
>>80335588
>FL
I want to believe, but since the primaries it's been trending more blue despite the rust belt is trending red. Likely thanks to Orlando and people being scurred of scurry black guns
>>80336096
Penn will likely flip the cycle for the same reason I hold a faint hope for NY. Pennsylvania is a hard hit rustbelt state which has choked on globalism, like Upstate New York(Home). We havent had a republican candidate who said they'd tariff the chinese factories that replaced us in Decades.
>>80336096
It's neck and neck between them in Virginia but I think Trump will come out in the end. Bush won it twice and in 2012 it was pretty close between Romney and Obama. Clinton won't have the ability to turn it blue this year because she doesn't have the charisma of Obama. Trump's message will end up resonating more with voters there.
>>80336338
NoVA/DMV is the problem with Virginia, just like Chicago is with Illinois.
Most accurate map coming through
>>80336490
God Bless Cantwell
>>80334595
Because otherwise, people would be upset that we didn't have state representation.
>>80336175
>>80336323
I dunno m8
>New York
One of the most liberal states will not vote for Trump. That's like believing Texas, Wyoming or West Virginia will vote Clinton.
>>80336195
I don't think the Orlando shooting had any real negative impact in Florida. Gay people are buying guns at record numbers now.
>>80335802
Sad that those little blue areas have so much influence just because people are crammed together there. Should be popular vote.
>>80336748
>what is the shy to controversy/extreme effect
>how do demographics work
go to http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/
You can show there that by just energizing the lower class white vote, trump would destroy hillary in every swing state.
>>80336748
>reasons Trump can't win PA
Hillary will do better than Obama in the PA suburbs and win
>>80337128
and trump gets cucked in the college grad vote
>>80337214
Even if he can't achieve levels higher than Romney, he still wins every swing state. Did you even use the tool?
>>80337128
>what is the shy to controversy/extreme effect
No idea what that is but you're not providing much of an argument.
>>80337442
>I don't understand your argument, therefore it isn't real
>>80337404
To be honest family
>>80330129
what would happen if this happened?
>>80335041
Many people believe that states cannot leave the Union for some reason. The truth is that they can.
The nuance that most people seem to miss is that states, of their own accord, cannot separate themselves from the union solely on their own authority. However, states can push through a vote in their legislatures (or by referendum, depending on the state) to petition the federal Congress to release them from the Union. Essentially, Congress would take up the petition and simply hold a vote (based around a bill) to either permit or deny the separation. If the separation is approved.....
The state is released to become an independent nation.
I had an argument with a guy about this a few weeks ago. He kept trying to say that it was IMPOSSIBLE for states to EVER leave the Union, which is simply not the case at all. Frustrating as FUCK is what that discussion was.
>>80337525
What is not real? Not sure what you're talking about.
But keep trying to convince yourself Trump will win Pa despite not giving any real evidence. Your tool doesn't mean jackshit
>>80337675
So effectively they cannot secede but can be expelled?
>>80337550
>even if he can't achieve levels higher than romney
>proceeds to post levels lower than romney
I know autism makes understanding phrases difficult, but this implies support would stay approximately the same, but not increase.
>>80337777
>objective demographic measurements don't mean jack shit
ok
>>80337666
Goes to HoR
>>80337777
Trump is going to lose PA for sure.
Also, nice lucky sevens you have there.
>>80329545
Trump losing Ohio but winning New mexico literally what
>>80337876
What's the scenario here? Half the nations ballots are fed in reverse?
>>80337847
Where are these measurements anon? The website you linked doesn't provide anything to your argument.
>>80329545
Why? your isn't.
>>80335255
Trump will not win any of Massachusetts we are way to cucked.
>>80338030
>literally lists the five general demographic breakdowns of the country
>nothing provided
ok
>>80337828
No, states must (at least in theory), consent to their own release. There really is no precedent for this though, at all, so I am just speculating based on the notion that for instance, new amendments cannot be added without state approval, nor can independent nations be made states (yes, I know about Hawaii, but we are talking about if this was done legitimately) without the approval of their own national legislative bodies.
The UK, for instance, could not become a state unless Westminster agreed to join the Union. I think it would be therefore reasonable to assume that a state must consent to its own release. This is just wild speculation, however.
>>80336490
Trump losing colorado but winning new hampshire and iowa
Look at the polls pls
>>80337828
Released would be a better term to use.
>>80337214
>Hillary doing better than Obama.
Wew, you are fucking retarded.
>>80337946
The scenario is: The Fourth Reich
>>80337558
>Indiana
>Blue
>>80338116
And what are those demographic breakdowns supposed to prove? It's literally the demographics for the 2012 election
>>80338212
he's not winning NH and Iowa
>>80338328
is this sarcasm?
i mean trump will do better in PA overall, but it won't be enough to push him over the edge to win PA
I predict anywhere from a .5 - 2% win for Hillary in that state
>>80335802
You actually over colored maryland.
It's three counties and Baltimore that should be blue. The rest is red.
>>80338428
Whoops.
Still doesn't matter, irrelevant state, Shillary still wins
YOU FUCKING MORONS NORTH CAROLINA WILL NOT GO BLUE
>>80338212
There is some worry about Trump losing Utah as well.
>This new Utah poll is amazingly bad for Donald Trump
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/13/this-new-poll-utah-poll-is-amazingly-bad-for-donald-trump/
Not quite sure how much I really trust that, though. A lot of the recent nationwide polls have been undersampling certain groups so that it looks like Hillary has a massive lead.
With those sort of tactics, it is impossible to know who to believe.
Take a look at what I mean.
4 days ago:
>Poll: The Donald and Hillary Nearly Tied, Clinton’s Lead Drops to One Point over Trump
>http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/05/poll-clintons-lead-drops-one-point-trump/
This is reporting a dead tie between the two... only 4 days ago....
Now check this one out from the SAME DAY:
>Clinton expands lead over Trump to 13 points: Reuters/Ipsos poll
>http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0ZL2S6
This one says Hillary has a THIRTEEN point lead.
Can't trust any of these things.
>>80334595
>such a majority of the nation
You mean empty space and livestock?
States like Wyoming/Montana/Dakotas dont need more than 3 EV because fuck all people live there.
Now on the other hand I think the WTA system is pretty shitty because any red voters in CA/NY and really anyone in a non swing state virtually dont matter.
>>80337558
>switch Ohio, Indiana, and New Mexico
Seems reasonable famiglia
>>80338454
>is this sarcasm?
turnout for hillary will be far lower than for obama
>>80338450
If you are so far gone you can't read my posts and put two and two together, I don't think political debate on a chink cartoon board is for you.
>>80338692
If Trump isn't losing in a Washington Post Poll, I'd be confused.
Remember "WHELP"?
>>80334437
>Trump wins Colorado
yeah, okay
>>80338764
>switch Ohio, Indiana, and New Mexico
Is this even possible senpai?
>>80338925
He's ahead in the polls in CO
>>80335802
You're missing the black belt in the south, other than that it's pretty accurate.
>>80338885
I am just going to speculate here, but my guess is that the media is trying to demoralize and discourage Trump voters into abandoning him for Johnson. This way (my wild guess is), Democrats will be at less risk of losing the presidency.
That might be a bit conspiratorial-ish... but I think it is reasonable in light of what we are sing.
>>80335588
Guns and coal may turn PA red this time around. For what it's worth, I live in rural PA (near Pittsburgh) and the people I talk to are either indifferent, pro Trump, or anti Hillary. Haven't met an openly pro Hillary voter yet. Anecdotal, I know.
>>80339058
Most of the media is openly against Trump. I don't think you're that far off at all.
>>80339058
Democrats are more likely to vote libertarian than Republicans
>>80339107
I dont think anyones met an open hillary supporter
>>80338954
I hope but maybe swap Iowa and NH
I'd have a heart attack
He needs to make a serious play for PA
>>80338454
As of now 10% of Dems are predicted to vote Trump.
PA will be Red.
The fix is already in for Hillary to win. Every time a Hillary scandal hits the news, Trump comes out and says something outrageous to garner all the attention. It's all a work.
>>80338848
t. Romney in 2012
I doubt this. Women and minorities will turnout for Hillary.
>>80338954
VA is no longer red with NoVa
>>80339107
>>80339185
it's hard to find hillary supporters when you're white guys
>>80339181
I hope that Johnson can serve the purpose of robbing Hillarious of votes. I really do.
He is sure a hell of a lot better than Clinton.
>>80337876
AYYY
As as I see it, Trump loses the popular vote, but wins the electoral college due to lower turnout of Blacks, assuming his currently not great numbers amongst them and hispanics remains. All that Trump needs to do is get old people to vote. No, not kidding. Even if we increase black turnout to the impossible number of 75%, if trump can get an increase of just 3% of the white vote to come, he wins.
Grab any calculator, use any stats you want, even with current losing polls, if the demographics stay, Trump wins. Focusing on making sure old people go to vote is what will win this for Trump.
Assuming worse case scenerio, with current polling and only the 3% of white turnout increase, Trump wins by 20 electoral votes.
Do the math, and start the campaigning.
>>80338925
I'm in Colorado trust me he will win.
>>80339272
and Trump's best chance of winning
>>80339283
One thing is for sure, we will definitely have Brexit level surprises in areas we never thought possible. The question is....
How much? How many? How far will they carry us?
>>80338428
Yeah I think the entire rest of the state of Indiana would be pretty pissed if only Lake County's vote was counted in the presidential election. Pic related, the liberal ass-hurt is very real.
>>80338885
Oh, let me see...hmm...I guess I was mistaken, huh. sorry about that. eh, everyone makes mistakes. I see what your original argument is now...ha
anyways, he doesn't seem to be doing very good at winning over the poor white vote because he's still doing preeetty bad in swing states.
>>80339107
I don't doubt it but it's very unlikely
>>80339283
>As of now 10% of Dems are predicted to vote Trump.
And 10% of Republicans will probably vote for Hillary.
That's what usually happens lol
Trump will do worse in Southeast PA and better in the rest of state
>>80339401
>best chance of winning
>NV blue
>CO blue
>>80338954
VA goes blue, New Hampshire goes red and PA goes red>>80339039
>>80339401
This right here is how Trump will win. Exactly how I predicted my map
>>80339401
>PA
kek
>>80339039
yeah, that was only in one poll back in november. a newer poll came out last month and clinton was beating him by 1
>>80335802
Good, fuck flyover shithead redneck America.
>>80339292
>Expecting turnout from women and minorities
>implying hillary is obama
muh first wymyn president narrative is basically dead
>>80339588
B-but virginia is a red state. Virginia was always a red state.
>muh guns
nigger
>>80339401
Trump winning PA? PA is a bunch of old-school Reaganites who hate neocons so much they they voted for Clinton and Obama at every opportunity. PA hasn't voted Republican since 1988. And they hate Trump more than they've hated the others.
>>80339753
Why wouldn't you expect turnout from women and minorities?
Women will turnout for Hillary because they hate Trump and Hillary is a women and minorities will turnout because they hate Trump.
Hispanic registration is up
>>80339588
>PA goes red
wew lad
Do you really think the rust belt middle class will uncuck itself and vote GOP?
>>80339493
Now we come back to the beginning- shy Trump. People don't like to say, especially over the phone/in voice, that they're voting for something which is considered controversial, or will make them uncomfortable. See the Brexit polls for perfect illustration- voice polls fluctuated to remain after Cox died, but the actual vote was the same as predicted before- leave up 52-48.
>>80339765
Gone blue a bit in the past few years due to NOVA (northern Virginia). All those Democraps setting in the areas outside of DC are changing things from red to blue.
>>80339292
...hard to find Hillary supporters...
Normally I would agree, but you haven't met my family.
I know a very small handful of people isn't much of a sample, but my parents, and their kooky lefty friends are warming up to Trump, and very much against Clinton. I wouldn't have guessed that several months ago.
>>80339803
Trump is the public response to Neocons, that's what the Jeb Bush business was all about.
>>80337878
aka trump wins
>>80339841
Hating something isn't a real turnout tool. Turnout among poor whites in 2012 was lower than it's been in decades because while they hated Obama, they really didn't like Romney. A pull, or someone you like, will bring you out more reliably than a push, something you don't, because a push is a negative feeling, while a pull is positive.
>>80339292
The only minority group that would even vote for her is niggers and there arent enough of those
>>80329545
This is probably the outcome, save maybe FL and NV.
>>80339871
Regardless of whether it can happen or not, it's The GOP's only path forward. I can't believe the filthy neo-cons aren't realizing it. There is blue creep in every state and they must find a new chokepoint or they won't win a new election regardless of who runs.
>>80339292
>depending on blacks and women to vote in greater numbers than they did for the magical negro.
Why are you so obsessed with making sure we all know your a fucking retard?
We already knew that from your OP.
>>80340036
Polls consistently show that Democrats are more excited about their candidate than Republicans are excited about Trump.
55% of Republicans didn't vote for Trump.
>>80340041
>suddenly hispanics dont exist
>>80339841
>Hispanic registration is up
The Dems playing identity politics with Hispanics was a terrible idea. Due to where they live and how they vote, Hispanics need insane turnout of about 70% to actually make a difference
>>80339841
>Hispanic registration is up
It's not all bad. I'm Hispanic and I recently got both my parents to register to vote, and I have convinced them to vote for Trump. Trump's still got 30% approval from Hispanics, some that registering in fact support him.
>>80340148
You guys are as fucking retarded as Romney was in 2012.
A FUCKING WOMAN IS RUNNING
and you guys are saying women won't turnout.
Are you retarded?
>>80340207
>wat is florida
>>80340234
fuck your anecdotes
>>80340151
Face it senpai, some women nigs and beans will votr for her
Thats it and dont forget about johnson and bernboi
>>80339499
>I belive the #nevertrump meme
Seriously you're fucking dumb.. just stop.
>>80340055
The strategy of the rebelling and uncooperative Republicans is that they want to let the presidency go. They simply don't care about it anymore. Now, their design is to attempt to hold onto control of Congress. This way, even if Hillary wins, there will be another eight years of lame duck presidency ahead.....
They are resigned to a Clinton presidency, it is just that they hope to limit her damage as much as possible by holding on to at least the House of Representatives.
>>80340151
However, your original point is still moot. Blacks won't be pulled by Obama and turnout for them will likely bee lower than 50% IMO. Dissatisfaction among dems runs deeper than those among Republicans- more republicans are disappointed, but democrats are disappointed more.
Posting all these maps when it's already been determined that Trump will be victorious. His troops are already in place to make sure that only the "right" kind of voters make it to the polling places come November.
>>80339841
I'm expecting it to low turnout in general. Conflict is bad for turnout because people feel uncomfortable and would rather just face something they can forget about for a night.
>>80329545
nevadas going red. so is flo rida
>>80339871
Depends on how Pittsburgh reacts to Clintons anti-coal stance, and if blacks are motivated enough to get out and vote (not sure Clinton has them that reved up). PA is only blue because of Philly and "The Burgh".
>>80340303
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-nuestro-amigo-latino-voters/
http://thehill.com/latino/287086-poll-trumps-hispanic-support-on-par-with-romney-2012
Add a heft of support, because shy Trump is doubled here
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/05/28/some_hispanics_face_ridicule_over_support_for_trump_130709.html
>>80340303
I've taken Florida into account. Hispanics are simply not monolithic enough to play identity politics with. Many hate illegal immigration just as much as Trump does
>>80329545
>>80340303
>Not realizing Hillery is the Romney this time around.
Your fucking retarded.
>>80340309
ok
>>80340310
No, that's just how it usually is.
>>80340362
>>80340450
>turnout for them will likely bee lower than 50%
What is this meme?
Black people turned out for Hillary in the primaries.
That's sorta how she won
>>80339716
The newer (((poll))) is notorious for selection bias and overepresenting Democrats when polling.
There were plenty of other poll like Sanders v Trump, Cruz v Hilary, Carson v Hilary and every single one had the Republican choice ahead +10 to +20 with the exception of Hilary vs Jeb. CO is very safely Red in the next election. Sorry libtard it's just fucking reality
>>80339896
Sure but the main difference here is the amount of minorities that we have. Since it's Clinton, she'll get a fuck ton of black support although not as much as Obama. Trump is doing historic lows with the Hispanics I don't think it would even matter if Trump wins a few percentage points with the lower class whites when every other minority group will vote in droves to stop a Trump presidency.
I feel like Trump is fucking up by ONLY pandering to a single demographic. I'm not entirely sure if a single demographic can swing states to red, especially when you consider the existence of Pittsburgh, Philly, Miami, e.c.t.
>>80340338
Which is not in anyway sustainable. They can't do this for eight more years. Demographic shift will continue to fuck them and current members rebel or stay home.
Once Hillary gets her SCOTUS picks, it kills The GOP.
>>80340234
It's interesting to see the polling amongst minorities.
Between 8-12% of blacks support him (which is very low, but still unprecedented), 25-35% of Hispanics support him, even asians (those mysterious faggots) seem to support him to the tune of 30-40%.
Again, trump will not win the popular vote. But, if he can embolden the people that do support him (And get more whites to vote than in previous year), he can win the electoral college.
>>80340574
>blacks turned out more than retarded college kids
Wow, that's why democratic turnout was so high in general, right? Not like they lost ~30% of their primary voters or anything.
>>80340589
>historic lows
>>80340490
>>80339996
>Trump is the public response to Neocons, that's what the Jeb Bush business was all about.
That's how he sells himself. But the whole outside shtick is nothing but a way to spin his complete lack of experience and knowledge. When it comes to platforms, he's still a cardboard cutout of a neoconservative.
>Jonathan Clarke, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs, proposed the following as the "main characteristics of neoconservatism": "a tendency to see the world in binary good/evil terms", a "low tolerance for diplomacy", a "readiness to use military force", an "emphasis on US unilateral action", a "disdain for multilateral organizations" and a "focus on the Middle East"
>>80340490
>http://thehill.com/latino/287086-poll-trumps-hispanic-support-on-par-with-romney-2012
Another poll showed Hillary dominating Trump w/ hispanics 80-13 to Hillary.
The problem with polls like the Pew Research poll is that the sample is small so the MoE is very large. It could be overestimating his support
>>80340549
This is retarded
>>80340665
Democratic turnout dropped b/c it wasn't as popularized nor competitive.
Is this your first election?
Ask Dukakis how primary turnout really matters
>>80340638
>Once Hillary gets her SCOTUS picks, it kills The GOP.
Another reason Republicans are desperate to hold onto control of the Senate.
>>80340546
>Meanwhile, in bizzaro America...
>>80336195
Wrong Florida is going solid red and Orlando only help the cause
The only reason dems are pushing Blue Florida is muh Hispanic vote
>>80340717
Wait, Obama is a neoconservative?
>>80338655
To much military, southeners, and guns to go blue
>>80340303
I actually live in Florida, and aside from some family, I'm also warming up some friends to Trump. Hillary has a slight lead here but Trump can still win if enough voters are energized. I've been trying to do this, as Florida is a critical state that Trump needs to win. What have you done?
>>80340533
This
>>80340776
Which they won't do if they have to be fighting their nominee till november.
>>80340776
If they lose the presidency, they're going to lose the congress, that's not even a question they should kid with.
>>80340378
kek
>>80340378
better jam the 4g broadband then. they are going to live stream your ass in a split second.
have a felling you have no idea how to do that however.
fucking redneck POS. its no wonder you lost the civil war.
>>80340647
That's sort of my prediction. Trump will win, Bush 2000 style.
>>80340717
Show me where in Trump's foreign policy speech he supported those ideals.
>>80340745
Pic related. Also, ask McCain, Gore, or Reagan instead.
>>80340745
>Democratic turnout dropped b/c it wasn't as popularized nor competitive.
KEK
This thread makes me realize why I hate California and New York
really hard without Florida but possible
>>80340898
I believe that they will hold onto control of the House for at least this cycle. However, I do believe you are right, their support will wain and they will likely begin losing seats another two years on (the House I mean).... probably the whole deal.
>>80337550
>college educated whites voting more democrat
>blacks voting anywhere the turnout levels with obabo
here is a legitimately more realistic map
you are a fucking retard if you don't think the white working class will win this for Trump
Dont forget about Maine guys. the gov and politics have been going right wing lately expecially with the constitutional carry they put in place the other year.
>>80340585
>libtard
source?
>>80340696
>Yet along the Texas-Mexico border, Trump enjoys a well of support among Hispanic Americans that some might find surprising.
>Texas-Mexico border
>In a two-way race against Hillary Clinton, a Pew Research poll found that 24 percent of Hispanic registered voters support Trump.
>While Romney did not focus on immigration as heavily in 2012, he angered many Hispanics by promoting "self-deportation" for undocumented immigrants, ultimately receiving 27 percent of the Latino vote, according to exit polls.
>doing worse than Romney
>not historic lows
Did you even read your sources
>>80340647
And in the meanwhile trump maybe the first GOP nominee to lose white college grads in 50+ years and is in a tie with white women
>>80341017
I mean Hillary still got 2M+ votes more than Trump.
>>80341021
But I'm correct. It was all over for the dems by the time super tuesday hit.
I mean Dems had higher turnout in West Virginia. Does that mean they'll win WV in the fall? Absolutely not.
>>80341053
your forgetting Bongorado is more lib than cali. they voted to bernout.
fuckin leaf.
>>80335255
Oregon, Michigan, Mass, and Colorado will be cucked. Otherwise I agree.
>>80341217
I can't believe how many people post in threads without reading them at all. Look higher- you'll see why this is still good news. >>80341254
>someone with one real challenger manages to get more votes than someone going against 17 opponents
Woah, I now #shillforhill. Thanks for making me think.
>>80338454
obama only pennsylvania by 5 points
it is very much in play and given hillary's anti-coal comments, i'd give Trump the advantage.
>>80341293
the polling has been really close. Also Bernie won in Colorado because the democrats in that state are mostly white. California is full of minorities, which vote Hillary (she basically won because of the black and hispanic vote)
>>80341366
Doesn't negate the fact she got 2M+ votes
If anything, that fucks Trump due to all the opponents he belitted.
>>80341429
She still won it in the primary.
How many coal workers are there in Pennsylvania for them to matter? lmfao
>>80341254
Nate Silver, get the fuck out of here, stop dropping your analysis Titles thinking we won't notice you limit your analysis to MSNBC and Washington Post live interviews.
>>80341126
Then they should throw their weight behind him. The only thing keeping them from that is their pride in their neo-con meme "ideology." Not like they actually believe it, they're there to hold on to their power.
>>80341527
>flaw in reasoning pointed out
>w/evs it doesn't matter fuk you
ok
>>80341527
im lmfao @ your life
>>80341581
That's our good old Nate for ya.
But seriously, guys, if you want Trump to win, focus on getting more white and older voters to go out in election day. Drive them if you must. Do whatever to get them into the election booth and voting Trump.
>80341536
>80341596
You literally didn't counter or debate any of my points and relied on insults.
This is bait.
>>80341581
Well? She got more votes. Trump was unopposed in some of the most populated states
I'm starting to think Trump supporters are as retarded and delusional as Romney supportes
>>80341742
Trump was unopposed in the Republican-void West Coast, where turnout was nonexistent because he had already won.
>>80341840
ok exactly
dem turnout down b/c it wasn't as competitive
>>80341816
>loses every argument
"Whatevs ur delusional imma go eat nachos"
Classic.
>>80341474
actually LIVE there.
there's a giant mural that got put up of Sanders downtown. like two blocks from where all the homeless sleep. haven't seen a single trump sign or bumper sticker (maybe nobody wants to show their power level publicly?) but i look out my apartment window and can see at least three bernie stickers. If they don't vote blue its because their voting for Jill Stein. which i guess you could say is a vote for trump anyway. But they could wise up after the first debate in the general.
>>80341579
>Then they should throw their weight behind him.
They probably will after their last attempt to derail him fails (wanting to add a "conscience" clause to RNC rules so they do not have to vote for him).
Hard to say though. Power really fucks with your head, especially when you've been gurgling it for years.
>>80341527
The coal workers don't exist in a vacuum. There are plenty of jobs that exist within the state that are part of the mining industry that arn't directly involved in the actual mining of coal.
Don't know if it will ultimately make a difference, but Clintons rhetoric, as it pertains to coal, isn't doing her any favors.
>80341900
>guys i won the argument amirite
This is bait.
>>80341816
>starting
you know we have IDs on this board?
>>80341896
Clinton and Sanders fought tooth and nail in every state down to the end in DC. What's noncompetitive about that?
The two fields were equal in the level of competition, your excuse doesn't make any sense.
>>80341816
There's nothing wrong with supporting Trump, but it's another thing to believe he'll win.
The shitstorm that will occur here when he loses will be biblical. Reddit, Tumblr, SA, and other sites will flood /pol/, and the amount of false flagging will be at historic highs.
No one will be safe. I'm not looking forward to it
>>80334437
If he wins, this is what it would look like, but he's got to get it together
>>80342014
>The two fields were equal in the level of competition
The media made it not look close w/ the super delegates and was barely covered compared to the republican primary
your average person thought it was over a long time ago
>>80329545
>hillary winning every swing
>>80332062
>PA red but virginia blue
>>80330129
>NH flipping before Virginia and NM
>>80333270
>FUCKING NEW JERSEY
>>80334133
>Ohio, FL, Virginia all stay blue in tandem
>>80336490
>PA flipping
>>80337558
>Indiana blue
is this your first election cycle
I love how a month ago, the shills were saying Trump couldn't win any swing states. Now they've accepted that he will win Ohio and North Carolina and are focusing exclusively on Florida and Pennsylvania.
When it becomes clear he'll win those two, they'll say he can't win Virginia, Nevada, and Colorado. The month after, they'll say he can't win the debates. The month after, they'll say he can't win Michigan, Iowa, or Wisconsin.
After the election, they'll probably say he won't actually be sworn into office
>>80329545
>>80341960
Two brackets, friend.
>>80342104
You're right. Thanks for correcting the record.
No media personality ever said Trump had no chance.
>80342190
no (you)s for you friend
anyone who didn't listen to the polls with trump was retarded, the polls consistently had him winning
and just like you you're being retarded not listening to the polls with hillary
>>80341896
I am fearful of your definition of non-competitive when Hillary's margin was for the most part entirely composed of superdelegates, but you clearly don't care much for what is being said to you.
Also, as for >>80341742, you are claiming Washington, Oregon, West Virginia and Nebraska are some of the most populated states? Or perhaps you are referring to Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico and South Dakota? Or is California the most populated state but didn't think the singular would help your point much?
>80342272
many of these states are well populated
>>80341159
>black turnout only at 50%
That's wishful thinking, it was 60% for fucking Kerry. It'll probably be 60% for Hillary as well.
>>80341912
ok, well I hope it gets better. If not, hopefully Trump will win Florida anyway
>>80342258
>you're retarded, not like smart people like me who can't capitalize sentences or use punctuation
>>80342148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5QThgbTlg
kek
>80342391
i dont need to put in effort with people like you
>>80342351
You're forgetting
>muh kutreenah
>>80342416
>loses argument
>was only pretending to be retarded
loving every laugh
>>80329545
What will you guys do if Trump doesnt win?
>>80341527
i don't think you understand the PA situation.
they were an industrial and mining state for decades and then NAFTA and shitty trade deals killed them. they're still a coal mining state however and, with shale, a lot of texans have been moving up there to get into the new oil boom.
notice how everything in there is exactly what Trump appeals to and exactly what Hillary appeals against? are you seriously going to sit there and tell me that the people who feel like they've been screwed over by global trade and want to keep mining coal are going to vote against the guy thats promising to bring jobs and manufacturing back to their state and keep coal alive?
there aren't enough niggers and swipples to keep PA blue. there aren't enough of them to keep any of the Rustbelt states blue. the problem with Romney, which you evidently can't see, is that he was fucking suit that said the same shit obama was saying with a slight conservative twist. his loss was hardly a surprise to anyone that was actually paying attention.
>>80342332
They are actually amongst the least populate states in the union. None of them,except for california, are in the top 10. In fact, only two are in the top 20. The rest don't even reach the top 30, and that that point you are pass the median. Hell, about 4 of them wouldn't even get into the top 10 of USA cities.
There's no definition for which the bulk of those enter into the populated category.
>>80342723
Personally, continue to push for a Nationalist Party here in Panama. I don't know what the hell any of these guys are gonna do.
>>80341960
how fucking new are you?
go back to whence you came faggot
>>80342426
Katrina happened in 2005.
Regardless, if Trump is going to win, he's going to have to get 70% White turnout, which I think is possible since he's appealing to working class Whites.
>>80337876
wtf is this
>>80342413
South Park right again. It's already too late. When the people "got serious", they realized he's going against a corrupt criminal who's sold out the American people. Voting for anyone but him is ludicrous at this point
>>80342922
lel, I guess you can seize the canal back when the US sinks into full race war :D
>>80342989
You're right. I agree.
>>80337067
lmao did you think about this before posting it
>>80343038
Ehmm... we already control the canal, dude.
>>80342991
I haven't passed it through the calculator, but that might just be how it looks without hispanics.
>>80340803
This. I lived most of my life in Florida, and it's conservative as fuck except for the Hispanics.
>>80342351
>she now wins deleware marginally
it really doesn't make a difference. blacks will never make a big difference in politics. they hardly are even responsible for obama.
plus i doubt they'll feel very inclined to partake in what many of them see as system that oppresses them.
>>80337876
>California
hey, it could happen. This state voted for Arnold against a beaner TWICE. Arnold even won the hispanic vote, on split tickets. If Hilary pisses off enough people, and centrists don't turn out, then a GOP victory is possible.
>>80343038
Carter fucked up m8.
>>80341159
I'm pissed at the asians in this. They should be more right.
>>80343261
Do you have full control over it? I thought you were forced to have a special treaty with the US
>>80343344
>and centrists don't turn out
Is this a fucking meme? Trump is the most centrist frontrunner in either party in decades.
>>80339352
>Trump loses the popular vote, but wins the electoral college
I think you mean wins the popular vote but loses the rigged vote.
>>80343107
What I found interesting was that if Whites turned out in 2012 (64%) at the same rate they did in 2004 (67%), then Romney wins. Now that Whites have a candidate that isn't a milquetoast politically correct, neocon retard, I think they can break 70%.
>>80343525
the irony is that centrism is more rightwing than modern "conservatism"
>>80343614
I don't think a 75/75 for the poor white group is that far out there really. There's nothing Trump won't get for that group. He's everything we like but doesn't hate bennies.
>>80343614
there is good reason to believe that whites will vote more republican and with higher turnout than previous elections.
>>80337878
Goes to House for President, Senate for VP. Or vice versa. Also it's the newly elected senate/house, not the current one.
And they can name anyone they want. So it won't happen but there could be the legit precursor to civil war scenario of HoR elects Paul Ryan as president and a Dem senate elects Hillary as VP
>>80337876
Nice swastika
>>80343614
They'll definitely break 70%. In her attempts to play identity politics, Hillary is alienating whites at an alarming rate.
She crawled out of her hole to do an interview for MSNBC tonight. Even though they gave her soft ball questions about BLM, she still managed to call all white people racist.
>>80343734
The problem is that while niggers won't have as much interest because no Obongo, the spics will probably have a much higher turnout than before to stop Trump. They voted at 50% in 2008, I think they'll be at 55% this time around.
>>80343941
Since they're concentrated in heavy red states like Texas or solid blues like Cali/illinois, the spic vote isn't important, honestly.
>>80341159
does this calculate how the races are spread out in each state?
>>80342127
>>PA flipping
PA here, there is a ton of Trump support in my area. Saw a few Bernie signs a couple months back but that was it. No Hillary support at all. I think there is a good chance he'll get PA.
>>80344330
Yeah
>>80344060
They could keep Florida blue.
>>80344335
Filthadelphia will fuck everything up
>>80344411
There's something minor about that which makes that shaky- cubans aren't spics.
>>80344411
Florida hispanics arent anti trump because most of them immigrated 60 years ago and are cuban instead of Mexican
>tfw no one believes in the Lincoln shuffle
Illinois has a red governor, is a hot-bed of Trump support, and is literally right next to fucking Ferguson.
>>80344330
i imagine via the state demographics
>>80341053
PA is not red.
>Thinking hillary will get the vote of anyone else except the niggers
She's trying to push legislation to allow illegal immigrants to vote, bet my left nut on it.
