Why does pol hate people who switch genders?
>>80291575
They're delusional and they represent everything wrong with white people today. Weak, subverted, and have no honor.
Dressing and acting like the opposite gender ≠ switching to the opposite gender
>>80291575
its full on degenerate on the day of the rope you faggots wont be sparred
>>80291657
Shit argument. There have been gender variant people in nearly every culture since we have records.
>>80291575
Most people do not hate them for that. What people do not like is that we are being forced to play pretend with them.
>>80291575
Because as a gay man what I want, and haven't gotten, and that Trump has in the past publicly declared support for, is a law saying I cannot be fired from a job or denied equal access in any way because of my sexual orientation. In the U.S. I can gay marry now but can, in many states, be legally fired for being openly gay without consequence and the NWO fucks are pushing bathrooms instead of trying to fix that.
pushing trans shit onto young people as normal leads to more people getting irreversible hormone treatments before being fully developed and destroying their penises.
Post transition they aren't any happier because they don't actually change their sex.
>>80291954
Yes but we didn't give them surgery and hormones until more recently. I don't care if they want to dress however I don't think they should have the risks and costs or surgery or hormones, but rather therapy (most refuse to take meds or listen to a therapist), many are autistic (7%), and they just think being trans means they automatically deserve both sympathy and more recognition than us measly cisgays.
>>80291575
Because you can't.
>>80291954
>nearly every culture
lel
>>80291575
Tell me why I should like them without using buzzwords
SGDQ is full of trannys this year. Wtf?
One speed runner announced on camera that his beautiful "girlfriend" was 2 years into his transition. Here's the beautiful "lady" lads.
>>80291575
>>80291575
Gender-switching Kike.
Top Kek.
They really do look evil though, don't they.
>>80291575
can't switch genders, can only mutilate genitals or play dress up with fake tits
>>80291575
Because it's fucking gross
>>80292074
Well yes we gays have the same addiction and mental illness predispositions but I have never had the desire to look female or dress female and I suspect maybe 5-10% of trans are authentically SO gender variant as to essentially be intersex and the rest are doing it because they have failed as men and they figure they will have more power and money as women. Maybe the 7% of them who are autistic (highest of any group that I know of) GENUINELY believe those who are not intersex can transition but its a) a big fuck you to gay guys who don't want to and to ACTUAL intersex people who are ignored and never mentioned by SJW's b) it distracts us from advocating better laws and treatment of cis gays and lesbians, and c) it makes us cis gays look bad to straights because they think we approve of it. Its malingering at its WORST. They just want cosmetic surgery and are mostly drug addicts. I mean I like drugs and looking good too but I don't think they are some sort of right others should have to pay for. Most trans are male gay guys who are fem. FTM is a meme and represents a small fraction of them.
>>80292519
They want to speedrun life by contracting HIV
>>80291954
Oh look, its gender variant anon!
>>80292195
I almost guarantee that if those gender variant people in the past had access to hormones they would take them. I mean hell, some Greek gender variant people castrated themselves during their life.
>>80292494
>>80292294
In Zapotec cultures of Oaxaca (southern Mexico), a muxe is an assigned male at birth individual who dresses and behaves in ways otherwise associated with the female gender; they may be seen as a third gender. Some marry women and have children while others choose men as sexual or romantic partners.
Femminielli or femmenielli is a term used to refer to a population of homosexual males with markedly feminine gender expression in traditional Neapolitan culture. It may be hard to define this term within modern Western notions of "gay men" versus "trans women" since both these categories overlap to a degree in the case of femminielli. It has been noted that this term is not derogatory and does not carry stigma, instead femminielli are traditionally believed to bring luck.
In Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh, the hijras are officially recognized as third gender by the government, being neither completely male nor female. In India also, transgender people have been given the status of third gender and are protected as per the law despite the social ostracism
An Enaree or Enarei was a Scythian shaman; described as effeminate or androgynous. Scythian shamanism involved religious ecstasy through the use of entheogens; they had no temples and worshipped the forces of nature. These are described by Philo and Manilius as men who use every artificial means to change their nature as men into women, they hate the sight of themselves a man
Fa'afafine are a third-gender people of Samoa and the Samoan diaspora. A recognized identity/role since at least the early 20th century in Samoan society, and some theorize an integral part of traditional Samoan culture, fa'afafine are male at birth, and explicitly embody both masculine and feminine gender traits
>>80291575
>Top lip
>Nostrils
>Hair
That thing should be gassed but for other reasons...
>>80291954
>shit argument
Nope. Stay salty, faggot.
>>80292977
Lol theres an MTF on soc who always posts that she's into speed running + trans have the HIGHEST hiv rate of the LGBT and like 20-30% of them are glorified prostitutes.
>>80293271
Castration though doesn't like fuck you up mentally like taking tons of titty skittles does.
>>80291575
I don't hate the mentally ill, I think they need help though
If a man acts like a woman or dresses like one, or a woman dresses like a man or acts like one, they should be put to death.
>>80291575
>hate people who switch genders
You can't really hate something that doesn't exist. You can however hate somebody for doing a really piss poor job at something, demanding that you acknowledge they did a good job, attempt to change how you define basic principles and then to top it all off demand you pay for the shitty job they just did.
If you are attracted to transwomen you are not straight. I want everyone to live safely and I would never discriminate myself, but these trans activists with their bullshit anti-straight language are offensive. Straight does not mean attracted to trans anything. You can call it transstraight and transgay if you want, but it sure as fuck isn't straight. Transwomen are antithetical to straight male sexuality.
>>80292519
>was 2 years into his transition.
They haven't been on hormones for 2 years, that's for sure.
>>80292519
shits going down in this pic
>>80291575
Most societies don't have much use for mentally ill people.
>>80291575
Why do people that switch genders hate pol?
Get out faggot.
sage
>>80293786
Fuck off shit skin. You are stinking out the thread.
>>80291575
>>80292294
You shouldn't be allowed on /pol/ if you don't study history
>>80291575
Cute nose.
>>80294366
>2nd from left's chin
lord have mercy
>>80291954
>that bulge
There is literally no logical argument against transgender people.
1. Transgender people suffer from a physical from of neuro-intersexuality. This is objective and empirical.
2. Transgender people empirically benefit from transition.
3. Gender variance has existed forever. It's part of the human condition.
You're literally a blue pilled little faggot if you disagree. This is the red pill on transgender people. It's reality. Not conjecture. Not cherry picking. It's reality and you are denying it which makes you no better than a SJW cuck that wants to worship dindus.
>>80291954
This is a disease that's spreading through the Internet. I'm serious. Ask yourself when these ideas of transitioning started. Of course you'll say since birth...
I honestly don't really have a problem with transgenders in general but just because a man gets surgery to become female or a woman gets surgery to become male then that doesn't really mean that they are now the opposite gender. Trans-females still have XY chromosomes (male) and they still have male organs inside and trans-males still have XX chromosomes (female) and they still have female organs inside. This may sound rude but its one of the laws of nature, nobody can really do much about it. If someone is born with a penis then their biologically male and if someone is born with a vagina then their biologically female. You can't break the laws of nature.
>>80291575
It's just flat out unnatural and creepy. We shouldn't support crazies lopping off their genitalia.
>>80294674
How do they benefit from transition?
>>80294687
>>80294366
Films about traps were winning Oscars before most of you were born.
A scattering of trans throughout history isnt proof that that the trans and gender identity craze at the moment is just that, a passing fad.
Once people go back to being emo or goths or something trans will remain just been a small community in cities, old crossdressers and thai ladyboys like its always been.
>>80294807
This. They need to keep it on
>>80294674
Live and let live, but trans activists with their fascist vocabulary bullshit are the most annoying fucks around. No, being attracted to transwomen is not straight. It is its own unique thing. No straight man wants to fuck a transowoman.
>>80294366
>>80293271
>savages did it so we should too!!
>>80294807
This. And makes gays look bad I've had people ask me if I'm trans and its like um no. When I came out ten years ago as a teen I had never met a "trans" sure maybe 5% of us were "cross-dressers" and I knew they existed but they weren't deemed to be women trapped in mens bodies which I believe is 100% modern subversive propaganda. Most trans I have met refuse to listen to their doctors and are just plain psychotic and want drugs that make them feel good instead of antipsychotics PROVEN to reduce their dysphoria. The issue is we need better drugs for the sorts of autism and psychosis they have that don't make u fat (gay guys HATE getting fat).
>>80293271
Every country you have mentioned here amounted to nothing.
It's one hell of a coincidence that such an "oppressive" western society managed to go on and conquer the fucking globe when we never had a bunch of mentally ill fuckwits holding everyone back.
And now that we do take a look at the state we are in. It's almost as if trannies think the world only started existing a century ago and that our societies haven't had millennia to figure this shit out. There's a lot that can be said in a strong and healthy family unit.
Men with dicks come into lesbian / all female spaces and demand they suck their dick or else they're transmisogynistic.
Also trans people are regressing societies ideas on gender roles. Apparently now to be a woman you need to be super feminine! And if you want to be a feminine individual you can't be a man!
>>80291575
I don't, you just don't have to let them expose themselves to children in bathrooms and lockerrooms, and you can't indoctrinate children into accepting it. Let them be kids, and then once they are adults, they can learn about people switching genders.
>>80294844
No transition: quality of life decreases continuously
Transition: decent chance of quality of life improvement
No transition: suicide rate extremely high
Transition: suicide hate really high
>>80294929
Videos of police killing black people and police brutality are everywhere now despite crime being lower than it used to be. We live in the information age where everyone has a camera, everyone has a platform to share their lives, and the media can't hide everything despite their best efforts. Visibility of the worst parts of humanity is at an all time high despite health, safety, and technology being at an all time high.
Obviously yes some people are jumping on the bandwagon with the trans issue. Just like some people intentionally bait police to record videos of police brutality and etc. for attention. That doesn't mean real cases aren't legitimate. There are more than enough real, non-tumblr/college liberal transsexuals to justify giving them basic rights.
>>80295159
>Amounted to nothing
>Italy
>Amounted to nothing
>Greeks
>>80295311
we should treat the mental illness not their genitals
>>80294844
This: >>80295311
But here is empirical data:
>Heylans et al., 2014: "A difference in SCL-90 [a test of distress, anxiety, and hostility] overall psychoneurotic distress was observed at the different points of assessments (P = 0.003), with the most prominent decrease occurring after the initiation of hormone therapy (P < 0.001)...Furthermore, the SCL-90 scores resembled those of a general population after hormone therapy was initiated."
>Gomez-Gil et al., 2012: "SADS, HAD-A, and HAD-Depression (HAD-D) mean scores [these are tests of depression and anxiety] were significantly higher among patients who had not begun cross-sex hormonal treatment compared with patients in hormonal treatment (F=4.362, p=.038; F=14.589, p=.001; F=9.523, p=.002 respectively). Similarly, current symptoms of anxiety and depression were present in a significantly higher percentage of untreated patients than in treated patients (61% vs. 33% and 31% vs. 8% respectively)."
>Colizzi et al., 2013: "At enrollment, transsexuals reported elevated CAR ['cortisol awakening response', a physiological measure of stress]; their values were out of normal. They expressed higher perceived stress and more attachment insecurity, with respect to normative sample data. When treated with hormone therapy [at followup, 1 year after beginning HRT], transsexuals reported significantly lower CAR (P < 0.001), falling within the normal range for cortisol levels. Treated transsexuals showed also lower perceived stress (P < 0.001), with levels similar to normative samples."
>de Vries, et al., 2014 studied 55 trans teens from the onset of treatment in their early teenage years through a follow-up an average of 7 years later. They found no negative outcomes, no regrets, and in fact their group was slightly mentally healthier than controls.
>>80295311
what if they take antipsychotics? Where are the outcome longitudinal studies for those denied hormones and surgery but instead treated with cognitive or DBT + antipsychotics? Again the issue, is how shitty antipsychotics are and that we have no good actual way to deal with psychosis and people with SEVERE Body Dysmorphia (from what I've seen all gay guys, including myself, have it to some extent) but they make demands (the mtfs) and will not listen to doctors unless they get happy pills or free huge boobs.
>>80291954
>>80293271
>>80294674
>>80295735
Kill yourself you deranged permavirgin ugly /b/tard faggot. Go back to your containment board and fap your tiny dick to tranny porn you pathetic loser.
Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourself Kill yourselfKill yourself Kill yourself
>>80293482
>titty skittles
>>80295930
>Enraged by empirical evidence
You are a blue billed little cuck who can't handle the truth.
>>80295856
So right after getting hormones they feel better but that's it? Methinks they just want to feel validated and thats what makes them feel better is doctors saying they are on the right pathogen though in reality their lives are in shambles and many have AIDS, drug additions, are prostitutes, autism, psychosis, and other fun. Doctors should be able to not humor them without consequence nor without discriminating against them, ignoring them, or failing to provide for any actual medicosocial needs they have but feeling shitty because your family rejected you for being gay so you go to a doctor and get happy pills (I did it, I'm gay) is NOT a permanent solution.
>>80295789
Medical treatment is based on a number of criteria. Can the illness be treated directly? What can be done to lesson the symptoms/improve quality of life?
The only method shown thus far to positively impact gender dysphoria is transition. Cognitive behavioral therapy does not lesson or impact transition and can in fact make the feelings worse. There are no medications that can treat gender dysphoria, aside from I believe a one-off case that has not been replicated.
>Where are the outcome longitudinal studies for those denied hormones and surgery but instead treated with cognitive or DBT + antipsychotics?
Typically no effect on treating feelings of dysphoria but increased chance of suicide.
The reason the medical community accepts transition is because, despite not being a consistently good solution, it is the only solution that works.
>>80295930
This is the issue, the crazy minority weeps the loudest irrationally, will not hear being told no, and demands change, even if most gay guys just think this is ridiculous.
>>80296104
>trying to pass anecdotal evidence off as empirical evidence
>blue billed
top jej
>>80292195
The Roman Emperor Elagabalus was apparently quite keen to find a surgeon who could give him a working cunt though.
>>80296323
Really? Plenty of data showing antineuroleptics help.
>>80291575
>dat nose
>>80291575
Don't care. DO care when they want to use the law (i.e. follow this or we take you to jail with guns) to force me to play along with their "poly queer demifluid annnovirgin breatharian" identity.
>>80296104
Can you pls kill yourself you wacko tranny loving neckbeard? You are pathetic and cringy.
>>80296446
Thus proving my theory that most trans we HEAR about (many are minority prostitutes who make more money dressing and presenting as females) are wealthy white males who want even more privilege then they already have.
>>80296459
Please link.
>>80296537
This.
>>80295159
Once the renaissance started.
>>80296586
The conclusion of that study is presented in a biased / flawed manner.
Mortality, suicidal behavior, and psychaitric morbidity of transsexuals who are post-op is definitely higher than the general population. However, it is still lower than transsexuals who are pre-op or pre-hormones.
No medical professional advocates transition as a be-all cure, but an attempt to make life more comfortable/bearable with those with dysphoria.
>>80296145
Good job, you have fallen for all of the memes.
>though in reality their lives are in shambles and many have AIDS, drug additions, are prostitutes, autism, psychosis, and other fun.
1. Many turn to sex work because holding a stable job while you transition is very difficult. There is no legal protection for transgender people. They can get fired for being transgender.
2. Aids is high in any group of people that have anal sex (anal transmits HIV easier + less condoms). Additionally sex work that transgender people often do to pay for transition adds to this.
3. There has never been an empirical link demonstrated autism and GID. This is anecdotal only. I have definitely noticed it a bit but it's still highly speculative consider sample bias since we are on 4chan.
4. Pyschosis mental illness drops significantly after trans people start transitioning. This has been observed and recorded.
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Taking powerful anti-psychotics to mask numb a person from a physiological abnormality inside the brain makes no sense. Why would these people not just transition instead of taking anti-pyschotic drugs that impact cognitive awareness, spatial processing, reaction time, and memory while creating chemical addiction?
>>80291954
So why is it just the West that shamelessly promotes it? The point is that transgender people are given license to spread their mental illness under the guise of fostering "pride". We don't glorify the bipolar, schizophrenic, or the autistic, yet we pile on the praise for those who mutilate their gentials and breed degeneracy.
>>80291575
i love gender changers
physically male cables are by far the most useful, but sometimes they need the help of a little female
two male cables can extend their power greatly by sharing a gender changer
>>80293271
And the fact they castrated themselves gives you no pause....
With today's tech and hormones if they want to change to strange
They can have at it.. But I don't have to accept them.. They have to accept themselves.
Their pain is silent, inward, and a mental disorder.
And before you get trigged, I have interviewed several for a doc I did. A doc that I closed down when I saw the lunacy. I couldn't support it one bit
>>80296939
Number of transsexuals in south america, asia, and middle east are each much higher than the number of transsexuals in the United States
>>80291575
there is more to being female than having high estrogen adn waering eye liner.
DNA and overies etc
>>80296859
Yeah sure having your genitals mutilated by some creepy jew sounds like a great "cure". What about locking those freaks in the insane asyluum?
>>80296613
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
We have been using typical antipsychotics to brea it for decades. It WORKS in terms of parameters of reducing delusional thoughts, but have side fx like weight gain that many of them won't tolerate because a little secret that MANY Mtfs have is that they autistically believe that the Straight male Chad of their dreams will love them if only they take hormones, have long hair, and huge tits. Its fucking retarded. Its gay guys who are autistic/delusional enough to think they can fuck straight guys as women + prostitutes who make more money as crossdressers soliciting straight clients. It's not real and it hurts us actual gays and those who are intersex physically and don't get all the research dollars and attention.
>>80296588
I don't think getting a cunt would get you any more privilege if your already Emperor of the fucking Roman Empire.
>>80296586
>Citing Dhejne.
Her research was done over the course of 35 years and is split into 3 cohort groups. Literally only her first cohort (1978-1989) had any sign of elevated suicide rates, post-surgery regret, and crime.
Actually read her study all the way you stupid nigger. She has spoken out publicly multiple times about the misrepresentation of that abstract.
The second cohort (1989-2001) still shows these elevated risks but greatly diminished.
Here is the researchers words herself:
>Dhejne: People who misuse the study always omit the fact that the study clearly states that it is not an evaluation of gender dysphoria treatment. If we look at the literature, we find that several recent studies conclude that WPATH Standards of Care compliant treatment decrease gender dysphoria and improves mental health.
>>80297135
You linked the exact study I had already referenced. This has never been replicated and most likely demonstrates that the patient did not actually have gender dysphoria.
Seems like Gender Identity Disorder could be common.
>>80294674
1. No proof
2. Subjective argument
3. No proof
>>80291575
I'm not, because literally nobody has ever switched genders.
>>80297245
She was probably getting death threats by wacko tranny freaks. Trannies and their betacuck orbiters and allies are really intolerant of dissenting views.
It's spaniard sissies destiny to catch my kebab stick
>>80297135
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
Nice fucking meme. This isn't even a research paper. This is a single case study involving a sample size of ONE. On a person who was borderline learning disability and had a cross dressing sexual paraphilia. Vast majority of transgender people don't get off on wearing their own clothes.
But yeah, let's force trannys to take this totally safe drug:
More common:
Difficulty with speaking
dizziness or fainting
fast or irregular heartbeat
lack of facial expression
loss of balance control
mood or behavior changes
restlessness or need to keep moving
shuffling walk
slowed movements
stiffness of the arms and legs
swelling or soreness of the breasts (less common in males)
trembling and shaking of the fingers and hands
unusual secretion of milk (rare in males)
Less common or rare:
Difficulty with swallowing
inability to move the eyes
increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
lip smacking or puckering
menstrual changes
muscle spasms, especially of the face, neck, or back
puffing of the cheeks
rapid or worm-like movements of the tongue
skin rash and itching
sore throat and fever
swelling of the face
uncontrolled chewing movements
uncontrolled movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs, including twisting movements
unusual bleeding or bruising
unusual facial expressions or body positions
yellow eyes or skin
Rare:
Convulsions (seizures)
difficult or unusually fast breathing
fast heartbeat or irregular pulse
fever (high)
high or low (irregular) blood pressure
increased sweating
loss of bladder control
muscle stiffness (severe)
>>80297530
No, she wasn't. She was just getting sick of idiots like you misrepresenting her findings:
Dhejne:
>Yes! It’s very frustrating! I’ve even seen professors use my work to support ridiculous claims. I’ve often had to respond myself by commenting on articles, speaking with journalists, and talking about this problem at conferences. The Huffington Post wrote an article about the way my research is misrepresented. At the same time, I know of instances where ethical researchers and clinicians have used this study to expand and improve access to trans health care and impact systems of anti-trans oppression.
>Of course trans medical and psychological care is efficacious. A 2010 meta-analysis confirmed by studies thereafter show that medical gender confirming interventions reduces gender dysphoria.
>>80296871
BUT INSTEAD OF ARGUING FOR LEGAL PROTECTIONS FOR LGBT for jobs and shit you want bathrooms. REEEEE Trannies GTFO of my /pol/ I come here to avoid you /lgbt/ wing nuts. I have had PLENTY of anal sex and never gotten aids. Many do sex work where the clients ask them not to, or pay them more, to not wear condoms as it is more pleasurable and they often are MORE LIKELY than white gay guys who are cis to fuck non white gay guys who are more likely to carry HIV in the first place THATS how they get it and you won't put this narrative in the MSM. Also the autism in trans pops is never mentioned (7%), that most are MTF not FTM, that many are drug abusers and malingerers towards doctors and will not take antipsychotics when psychotic and would rather be homeless than do what a doctor tells them. I get that antipsychotics are bad because they make you fat and being fat as a gay guy is a death sentence for getting into relationships, but we need to focus on NEWER antipsychotics that aren't as unpleasant to take, don't make u gain as much weight, and LGBT anti-discrimination laws about firing people from jobs, or denying them housing, not fucking bathrooms.
Oh please they test MTF trans for autism all the time since they are already seeing a shrink and they often are on the spectrum. We cis gays don't think that we will be considered women by straight guys and thus be able to fuck the hot one of our dreams like they do because we realize being treated shitty is because women are treated shitty because they are more unstable with power and less intelligent and homophobia = misogyny. We gay guys are still treated poorly overall and this distraction to focus on a TINY fraction of the gay pop hurts the rest of us.
>>80296871
More to the point, all of these conditions are caused by a choice. Gender dysphoria is a real issue that cannot be escaped. Transitioning is a choice that is not forced upon the sufferer by any means. You CHOOSE to cut your penis off, you CHOOSE to have promiscuous unprotected sex, you CHOOSE to recieve cancer causing hormone therapy. The transition is not a cure, merely, it is a prolonging of the inevitable. The suicide rate of those who are post-op is almost identical to those who are pre-op, so we've ruled the transition out as a cure. Psychological counseling should be the first step taken, as the disorder is mental, not physical. It's no different than having synesthesia or conversion disorder or being a hypochondriac.
>>80291575
Faggot
>>80296104
>empirical
>has posted no sources
>>80291575
BECAUSE SWITCHING GENDERS IS GENDER APPROPRIATION
>>80296999
those aren't gender changers tho
they're size adapters
>>80297178
They are autistic and the privilege they think they will get is being able to fuck str8 guys who are most guys rather than being limited to gay guys. MTFS goal is to fuck str8 guys.
>Looks like a girl.
>Sounds like a girl.
>Talks like a girl.
>Thinks like a girl.
>Smells like a girl.
If yes to all of the above then I don't fucking care if they have a penis or not. I am seriously beyond giving a shit. It's all fleshy parts in the end anyway, if they're aesthetically pleasing to me then the sex organ doesn't matter.
>>80291575
Is that a protonman helmet?
>>80296939
Because the West is supposed to be about freedom. And these people are not free yet.
>>80297457
1. See pic related. I know it's a little edgy but the research is all real, credible, and sourced. These image annotates the studies. Go find them for yourself if you don't believe this.
2. See: >>80295856 for a short list of research done on transitioning
3. See: >>80293271 for a short list of cultures where this has been documented.
>>80297608
A lot of antidepressants and antipsychotics have those side-effects or at least something similar to those.
Because it's motivated by sexual perversion and narcacism.
Females are sexually dimorphically shaped by evolution to be excellent at conceiving and bearing children. (Wide hips, fat deposits)
The human female form is not a fashion style you can just wear and call yourself a woman.
>>80297054
Where are you getting these stats from? I have an extremely difficult time believing that the Middle East of all places gives any more leeway to their LGBT community than does the US.
>>80297608
I never said it was safe... I made multiple posts about how the issue is needing medications that reduce psychosis without causing as many side fx but THATS where money and medical care should be spend rather than on titty skittles and elective surgeries to give them huge boobs as some magical cure.
>>80297857
Berglund "Berglund, H. et al. “Male-to-Female Transsexuals Show Sex-Atypical Hypothalamus Activation When Smelling Odorous Steroids". A positron emission tomography (PET) study showed that smelling androgens (male pheromones) caused transwomen to respond in the hypothalamus region of their brain in a manner similar to XX karyotype women. However, smelling estrogen-based pheromones also caused them to respond in the hypothalamus region in a manner similar to XY karyotype men. This combination of results suggests that transwomen occupy an “intermediate position with predominantly female features” in the way the hypothalamus reacted.
Yokota, Y. et al “Callosal Shapes at the Midsagittal Plane: MRI Differences of Normal Males, Normal Females, and GID”. An MRI study of 22 transwomen and 28 transmen examined the shape of the corpus callosum in the brain at a specific cross-sectional plane, and compared this shape with that observed in 211 XY karyotype males and 211 XX karyotype females. Their results demonstrated that not only could the sex of the patient be determined with 74% accuracy from the MRI picture, but the shapes of the brains in the transsexuals strongly reflected their gender, and not their biological sex.
Luders "Regional gray matter variation in male-to-female transsexualism." MtF transgender people were analyzed by fMRI; gray matter variation throughout the brain more closely resembled the layout of a cisfeminine brain, rather than that of a cismasculine brain, implying gender identity depends on cerebral layout.
Burke "Hypothalamic response to the chemo-signal androstadienone in gender dysphoric children and adolescents". Androstadienone, a particularly fragrant chemosignal responsible for sex-based differences in hypothalamic microstructure; children with gender dysphoria were observed to express differences in hypothalamic activation in accordance with identified gender, rather than assigned gender.
>>80297857
Bentz "A polymorphism of the CYP17 gene related to sex steroid metabolism is associated with female-to-male but not male-to-female transsexualism." CYP17 -34 T>C SNP allele frequencies were statistically significantly divergent between FtM transgender people and cisfemale controls; genotype distributions were also divergent in a statistically significant manner.
Hare "Androgen receptor repeat length polymorphism associated wth male-to-female transsexualism." Genes involved in sex steroidogenesis are components to transgenderism and gender dysphoria; specifically, androgen receptor repeat length polymorphisms were observed in an MtF-transgender population, but not a cismale population; this warrants the conclusion that male gender identity is mediated by the androgen receptor.
Gooren "The biology of human psychosexual differentiation." Meta-analysis of sex-steroid production and prenatal androgen exposure in transgender people.
Swaab "Sexual differentiation of the human brain: relevance for gender identity, transsexualism, and sexual orientation." Analysis of prenatal androgen exposure similar to Gooren, but notes that neurological testosterone availability in MtF trans people is deficient, causing transgenderism or non-heterosexualism.
Garcia-Falgueras "A sex difference in the hypothalamic uncinate nucleus: relationship to gender identity." The structure of the anterior hypothalamus plays a strong role in the development of transgenderism; INAH3 volume in transwomen resembles ciswomen, and INAH3 volume in transmen resembles cismen.
Kruijver "Male-to-female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus." BSTc somatostatin-expressing neuron counts - twice as high in cismen and transmen as in ciswomen and transwomen. More intense Zhou.
Zhou "A sex difference in the human brain and its relation to transsexuality." BSTc size in transwomen resembles that of ciswomen and is independent of sexual orientation.
>>80291575
This is my why:
http://yiannopoulos.net/2014/08/15/transgenderism-is-a-psychiatric-disorder-its-sufferers-need-therapy-not-surgery/
>>80297694
Why are you always posting "passable" trannies. Isn't this like "problematic" or something? Do you not care about trannies that don't resemble real females?
It's weird you are cherrypicking so hard and IRL 99% of tranny abominations look like pic related.
No wonder so many trannies kill itselves. When your "allies" and virgin neckbeard orbiters are so intolerant and engaging in discrimination
Not only that but you post actual real women with vaginas as trannies all the time. How pathetic and sad are you?
>>80297857
Rametti "White matter microstructure in female to male transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A diffusion tensor imaging study." By diffusion-tensor-imaging MRI and fractional anisotropy analysis of various transgender and cisgender people, FtM transgender people more closely resembled a masculine-structured brain than a feminine- structured brain, noted by the study in the structures of the right superior longitudinal fasciculus, the foreceps minor, and the corticospinal tract. White matter microstructure therefore plays a role in gender identity.
Boston University Medical Center. "Transgender: Evidence on the biological nature of gender identity." The researchers conducted a literature search and reviewed articles that showed positive biologic bases for gender identity. These included disorders of sexual development, such as penile agenesis, neuroanatomical differences, such as grey and white matter studies, and steroid hormone genetics, such as genes associated with sex hormone receptors. They conclude that current data suggests a biological etiology for transgender identity.
Bao, Hahn, Kranz, Kaufmann "Structural Connectivity Networks of Transgender People". 94 subjects, 23 FtM, 21 MtF, 25 cisFemale, 25 cisMale: average age 26. Transsexual subjects did not fulfill criteria for current comorbidities but 9 reported history of depression (n = 2), specific phobias (n = 3), obsessive compulsive disorder (n = 1), anorexia nervosa (n = 2), and substance abuse (n = 4). All patients reported subjective feelings to belong to the other gender before or at puberty. Investigating structural networks in female-to-male and male-to-female transsexuals, we observed differences in hemispheric and lobar connectivity as well as local efficiencies when compared with healthy controls.
>>80298007
Exactly my point the MTF trans believe if they take hormones and surgeries they can fuck the hot but straight beta of their dreams who isn't gay but can't get real women because he is socially inept or mentally ill.
>>80291575
The X and Y chromosomes in your body disagree.
Cutting your dick doesn't make you female, and the horror of creating a frankenpenis doesn't make you male.
Everything that's in your mind is just in your mind. Reality doesn't give a shit if you feel like you're female or not.
>>80298085
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran
How can you hate that which does not exist?
>>80298113
So they are bisexual....so are a lot of gay guys doesn't mean shit about gender.
>>80298229
No. I pick passing trannies because /pol/ only posts unpassing trannies. So it's okay for you to cherry pick nasty trannies but I'm not allowed to counter with passing trannies?
You try to spin a narrative that all trannys are mentally sick fetishests with facial hair and huge bodies. That's not reality.
>>80293909
lol fucking disgusting
>>80293271
>guy says your claim of "nearly every culture" is bullshit
>you reply by citing degenerate barbarian cultures that have account for only a small portion of historical cultures.
you showed him good!! retard
>>80298229
Exactly most trans are older, fatter, poorer, less educated, and more heavily minority than what is presented in the MSM narrative. A MAJORITY OF TRANS per capita are Black/Hispanic not white.
has coming to pol and trying to sway polacks become some kind of ritual for trannies? like jumping through a ring of fire?
>>80298366
Look up Gender Identity Disorder and then come back, dumbass.
>>80298366
Do you or the other anon have a study or database to link with relevant information
>>80298229
If that person's happier that way, then good for them. I wouldn't date' em though, and here's the shocking thing: No one's asking you tooooo....
>>80298269
Again tho we have these loud tuboautists within the gay community who don't care and don't care if they compromise how people view us and the ability for other gays who are cis to improve their lot as long as they get attention, negative or positive. Its honestly just autism + gay.
>>80291954
I FOUND THE FAGGOT!
>>80298366
>/pol/ only posts unpassing trannies.
Lurk more.
>>80298229
there's no such thing as a passable tranny
>>80293909
Kekerino
>>80298362
No. Transgender people have a neural form of intersexuality. Transgender people have several areas and structures inside their brain that more closely resemble the gender they identify with.
Everyone likes to say, "Well most of these studies were done on trannies that did HRT! It's the hormones!"
In reality this is not true. There was a control done where men with a rare medical disease that required them to take female hormones at HRT levels did not develop or present these structures unique to Cisfemales and MtF.
>Hypothalamus behavior, structure, and activation
>Limbic nucleus and structure
>Cortical Thickness
>Bed nucleus of the stria terminalis
The most striking differences are in the hypothalami area and limbic system. Hormones and instinct, respectively.
>>80298467
It enrages me as a cis gay guy more than any straight guy and this agenda has only been pushed heavily in the past 5 year. DONT GLORIFY AUTISTIC PPL!
>>80297918
Again I don't think that would be a problem with him being the most powerful man in the world at the time.
>>80298366
"passable" trannies are 1 in a million and you know it. Vast majority of them are 40 year old dudes who take crossdressing too far and create an entire identity out of a fetish. They are legit circus freaks.
>>80298570
That's pretty much the problem. You've got turboretards on the right and turboretards on the left pulling harder and harder on the rope holding all the normal people of society, and eventually it's going to snap.
the human body is a wonderful thing.
We are made in God's image.
Even if you don't believe that, we are the highest form of life in the known universe.
To purposefully mutilate that thing because of some bullshit ideology you read is a crime against nature.
The ancient wisdom is that you should adhere to the natural order of things. People who don't raise families end up alone and depressed. People who mutilate their genitalia end up the same.
>>80291575
the nose knows
>>80291575
We don't hate- we are the ones who sincerely care about them so they don't succumb to their demons and end up mutilating their bodies and souls.
>>80298695
It literally said they respond, the biological females, to male androgen pheromones like cis straight women and to female ones as male. THEY ARE BISEXUAL JUST AUTISTIC ENOUGH TO BELIEVE ITS MORE THAN THAT FUCKKKKKKK
>>80291954
Yeah and they all got magically uncovered when the (((Frankfurt School))) became a thing.
>>80298711
But that's my point, most aren't powerful most just are poor, drugged out and crazy and it doesn't help them. You only hear from the most wealthy white trannies about what their opinions on it are and thats NOT most of them.
>>80298715
THIS x 1 mil + young autistic gay fem guys who think they can get straight guys/closetgays with long hair and fake boobs.
>>80291954
Take your faggots pictures to /b/, they are more appreciated there.
>>80298781
>We are made in God's image.
>some bullshit ideology.
Speaking of which.
What's the mortality rate for tranny nutters again?
>>80298771
Sigh. I hope they fight each other and not me, but I'm seen as the moderate mediator so I get the "KILL URSELF TRANSPHOBE" shitstorm instead.
:( >tfw actually want to help trans because I care about all the LGBT community but they don't want help that isn't their own invention no matter how autistic or illogical.
>>80291575
>Have dick am man
>Have dick claim I'm woman, still a man
>Have dick
>Cut dick off claim I'm woman, still man with amputee dick
>Depressed society doesn't see me as woman
>Special snowflake status shattered
>Body mutilated
>Not treated for mental illness, coddled instead
>Life ruined
>An hero
>>80295084
What drugs make them feel good? Hormones?
>>80299022
>Even if you don't believe that, we are the highest form of life in the known universe.
>>80291575
Because they don't just switch genders
They leap about and scream "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I'M SPECIAL"
And when you say "Fuck off" they reply with hostility beyond reason, banning you from events, suing you, and trying to make you public enemy.
as someone who's been struggling with body dysporia since I was about 13 and has been given the gohead to start hrt but is still unsure on if I should
The biggest thing that is stopping me is not passing, I'm not exactly the most masculine but knowing my shitty luck I'd probably end up looking like one of the usual fucking faggots, tell me why I'm a cuck and should take titty pills and suck dick?
>>80295856
Not science.
>>80299300
also should point out I'm 18, 19 in august, just finished college trying to get a part time job, did alright in highschool up until my depression made me suicidal and other shit real life junk making things 10x worse
oh and check them dubs
>>80299300
You should take HRT because your dysphoria will only get worse. You'll have some mid life crisis and regret not transitioning while you could.
Of course you could also wait till we merge with machine.
>>80291575
The Bible says It's wrong. And we can see by what it leads to that it is indeed wrong.
>>80299300
>tell me why I'm a cuck and should take titty pills and suck dick?
You can suck all the dick you want and take all the BBC up your ass you want without going on her faggot
>>80294674
"they're disgusting fags" is an argument
>>80298563
That's Stefonkee, it believes it is a six year old girl. Im sure it might be happier, but can't say the same for his wife of 20 something years and his 7 children. Now it gets to act out its weird sexual fantasies with it's adoptive parents. What a mentally healthy and stable individual
>>80299128
As far as I'm concerned, if some guy wants to wear a dress and say he's a woman then I don't fucking care.
If some guy really is a woman stuck in a guys body and wants to become more physiologically female, then I also don't fucking care.
It's definitely annoying that all the focus is on ridiculous social issues like the bathroom bullshit (I'll note that I'm with the left on that one) rather than the important legal stuff like reason for termination of employment.
/Pol/tards like the post above yours doesn't exactly help the situation either, no one's going to respond well to being called "tranny nutters" repeatedly. Both sides just scream louder and louder and all the reasonable voices are drowned out.
>>80299597
If only. I think midgets are disgusting but that doesn't mean it's a credible argument to stop them from the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness.
>>80299300
Stop that. Get straight. Act normal. Adhere to moral law.
>>80299210
It's admittedly only semantics, but I'll correct you and say that:
>We are the highest known form of life in the universe.
Thing is though, if you don't subscribe to the religious stuff then being the highest lifeform we can do *whatever the fuck we want to.*
>>80299300
Realize that you'll be 30 years old and a total, lonely freak if you transition. On top of that you'll probably kill yourself about that time too like most tranny freaks do
Honestly until science figures out how to transition without chopping off your dick they'll always gross me the fuck out. Yes you can tell for 99.99999% of them.
>>80299768
But they are never happy and most an hero even after transitioning.
>>80299768
Emily Rudd is a real biological female with a vagina you deranged tranny fetishist freak. What happened did you run out of "hot" trannies already?
>>80300013
looks like a younger willem dafoe 2bh
>>80298624
>>80299623
Thaaat's fucking weird.
Still, not my life, not my problem. Maybe they have brain damage? No idea. Regardless, there's a bit of a difference between "guy is woman stuck in guy body" and "guy is 6 year old guy in 40 year old man body."
>>80291575
In a primal way it's kind of like a betrayal. There is also the angle that a man switching genders is far too weak and a woman switching genders is laughable for not being able to handle easy mode.
>>80299805
>Moral law
As outlined in a book written by mudslims in a different language 2,000 years ago.
The reality is we are all made of quarks, leptons, and bosons acting in unique fields that form protons, neutrons, electronics, and radiation which form all types of baryonic matter that has been changing through entropy in the universe for 14,000,000,000 years.
You are braindead.
>>80299526
Christ-chan is cute and a bigot. She's a cute bigot :3.
>>80299205
No, benzos.
>>80300224
Nice meme you gross neckbeard /b/tard xD xD
>>80299931
Only 25-30% of transgender MtF chop their dick off.
So actually the majority of transgender people transition and don't chop their dick off.
-It's expensive
-It's risky
-Long Recovery Time
-Primitive Surgery
The fact you think all trannies are eager to chop their dicks off shows how little facts your opinion is formed on.
>>80300224
What's wrong with her legs?
>>80300262
>The reality is we are all made of quarks, leptons, and bosons acting in unique fields that form protons, neutrons, electronics, and radiation which form all types of baryonic matter that has been changing through entropy in the universe for 14,000,000,000 years.
Cool, then how I treat you and trannies really doesn't matter.
>>80300256
Well, I noticed early on that a lot of straight guys felt betrayed and still do about the fact that I am gay as they sort of see it as like even if they had those feelings its a moral issue to have self-control and that I'm not more gay than them (everyone is bi) but I have less self control than them (just a pet theory).
Pic related is the only transformation a male should take
>>80291575
saging
>>80300529
Nothing. The boots aren't aligned directly to the shin so it looks like their knee has snapped.
>>80300586
Sure but why would you intentionally want to harm or hurt other people just for being different than you?
How much more of a threatened cuck can you be?
>>80300253
No, he is a 6 year old girl stuck in a 40 yr old mans body
>>80300626
dat edge though
>>80300673
But then where does her feet go?
>>80300752
If there is no morality, then harming or hurting someone isn't wrong, and doesn't need justification.
>>80299300
Trannies kill themselves at crazy high rates even when they're accepted. It's not worth it. I used to have some dysphoria. I didnt wanna be a girl so much as there was a modern male ideal that I latched onto but would never fit cuz I'm a huge hairy guy. In my early 30's now, and I don't give a fuck. I always wanna be in better shape, but that's about it. I wouldn't get rid of my back hair if you offered to to it permanently painlessly and for free.
>>80298229
No such thing as a passable transsexual. You are propagating a dangerous lie that dooms sick people to permanent maiming and devastation.
>>80300808
on the stair behind her you mong
tempted to post a pic of myself, if you think I'm too masculine looking or we/
>>80300778
>wanting super soldiers is edgy
>>80300492
imo, a dickless tranny is a worthless tranny.
What's the fun in that?
>>80300492
25-30% is still alot of dicks being chopped off. Stop espousing your talking points and actually engage. My point was, why do such an invasive surgery when you know you'll never be genetically close to a female? Once again, why not push for better scientific advancements?
I'm honestly curious.
>>80299768
This one is actually passable. Any more?
>>80300752
>Sure but why would you intentionally want to harm or hurt other people just for being different than you?
I dunno, maybe I actually like traps, but rape also turns me on? I could get into Dahmer territory if I keep going.
>>80300886
He claimed divine morality. I think morality is a human social contract. You don't hurt me. I don't hurt you. That's what it ultimately boils down to, mutal gain to mutually exist. Transgender people don't hurt you. They don't have any impact on your life at all.
>>80301054
i thought that was an execution
>>80301036
... But why? I don't understand.
>>80291575
what a kike
>>80300767
Right, but it wouldn't be that much less weird if it was six year old boy. The weirdest part is "six year old" not "girl".
>>80301253
what are you asking why to, the pic posting or the leg thing?
>FUCKING LEAF
>>80301229
Why shouldn't I hurt you if it advantages me, then? What benefit does a stronger person have to not destroy any potential competition?
>>80295930
Fuck. Are those her eyeballs in there?
>>80301364
Why would wear boots that don't line up with your feet and makes your shins look like they're broken.
>>80301229
It hurts me as a gay male who is cis because it puts attention on a very small fraction of gays and we are considered not special enough if we don't want to be trans or even bigots.
>>80291575
saged
>>80300610
I am not bi. 100% straight actual. Stop lying.
>>80301068
>why not push for better scientific advancements
That is happening constantly. The surgerys and hormonal care has been improving drastically for 30 years. They are currently working on uterus transplantation.
>why do such an invasive surgery when you know you'll never be genetically close to a female?
Honestly after working with a lot of transgender MtF, the majority of them would prefer to have nothing down there (barbie doll style) rather than a penis. For many transgender people their penis has brought them constant anxiety for years. It's physically relieving for them to remove it.
Some transgender people don't have any genital dysphoria but instead feel pain when they see their facial hair or smell their body odor. For most of the these behaviors they are present in childhood or when puberty starts.
>>80301229
>He claimed divine morality
Nope, I didnt say what I believed, just making you face what you do.
>morality is a human social contract.
Well I'm not signing yours,
>They don't have any impact on your life at all.
LE "IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU" meme. How childish and myopic are you?
>>80301229
>They don't have any impact on your life at all.
>>80292977
What does this even mean?
>>80295930
Fucking sadists.
>>80301492
because fashion, not a fucking clue.
Looks like a cosplay of some anime so..
>>80301729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzyUcXR05Z4
>>80298781
Agreed, anon.
>>80301381
>potential competition
How are transwomen competing with you? I don't understand. Do you mean for general resources?
It's not beneficial for humans to destroy each other because we have no cue what an individual can contribute to society.
What if somebody would have murdered Nikola Tesla because they wanted something of his? The entire world would be worse. We can't predict what someone will contribute to society. Contribution to society in all ways in how humanity has thrived.
How about Alan Turing? He was a total faggot who killed himself too soon because of discrimination. If he could have lived longer we would be much further ahead in computing. In his short life he did so much that still impacts today.
Destroying your own species is counter intuitive.
>>80301229
Trannies are consistently enormously violent. This violence is censored or excused as a result of societal rejection.
>>80301555
Straight meaning you have never tried gay sex Bi can just be 1% or it can be 50%. You might not enjoy it as much as I would but the idea that you are constitutionally incapable of enjoying it at all is equally extreme. A lot that is ignored is how much worse women treat you and are unwilling to fuck you if they know you are bi or have had sex with men.
>>80300886
Neither does it prevent people from protecting them and persecuting you for it dipshit.
>>80298781
Which god are we talking about?
>>80291575
I hate the "transcommunity" (not any individual but the media promotion of certain specific suggestions directed at actual trans individuals by mainstream media, for what the next step towards their liberation as a minoroty should be) for example:
1) making children aware of your trans status very soon after meeting them, thereby making it the focus of your initial interactions...either you are passible as your chosen gender or you are not, children should not question your gender proclamations and cues even if you are not passible unless they are very rude intentionally or very poorly trained in manners. There is no need to talk about your medical history with a kid, especially the medical history of your genitalia. Why bother children with your past? I don't tell them about my foot fungus battle...my mental issues...leave the fucking kids alone, the adults are having plenty of culture shock for everyone.
2) I think the chemicals leeching from plastic (not just bpa but plenty of other nasty chemicals dissolve in milk from our Chinese made plastic containers) are causing alot of this hermaphroditic morphology (same as we have known plastics effect to be on frog populations for 30 years) and once you transition you may stay uncomfortable because you are chemically pushed towards a hermaphroditic state. Blocking the toxic chemicals effects or removing them from our food chain seems better than estrogen suppliments and snip snip.
>>80302061
if thats the case we might as well kill all lonely white boys cause they'll go on killing sprees, your logic is dumb
>>80291575
Its nature to reject that which will not thrive. Thats why humans are competitive.
>>80301972
I'm not talking specifically about trans people in this argument, I'm applying your philosophical ideas to the general population.
By the logic of potential, we can argue "what if someone killed Hitler or Stalin when they were kids", individuals are not nearly always beneficial to society. You can't argue potential.
In order for me to destroy my own species, it would require a lot more bloodshed than is possible for me, considering my limited reach as an individual.
>>80301251
You think they film execution videos like that?
>>80301884
Total kek... I get the speedrun part but how relate to trans? The self loathing and death wish fuck it all straight to hell aspect?
>>80292494
Hulk SMASH!
>>80302061
This too. And not just physically, but emotionally. If their attitude towards themselves is (you are not a good person just being who you are!) they will have this same attitude towards anyone close to them.
>Forcibly changing your hormone levels and mutilating your body irrevelsible over something that might or might not be a whim.
>Acceptable
It's almost 2020, where the fuck are my cybernetic augs?
>>80302126
So we shouldn't hurt or maim or murder people not because it's wrong, but because it represents a risk to ourselves, that's what you're arguing?
>>80302454
Trannies have a higher rate of HIV
>>80302092
I find men to be absolutely disgusting. Does this make me transhuman or something?
>>80302554
give sources for that,
as someone who is self deprecating and is just out of a rut where I didn't do anything but smoke weed and fight the urge to off my self I have nothing but the utmost respect for those around me.
>>80291575
>>80291575
3) The transition seems to be the whole journey and tends to go on forever and is always consantly talked about by many...I sometimes wonder if it is driven not just by toxins, but also attention seeking, like munchhowsens (bad spelling) disease.
It's creepy and gross.
Not to mention that 41% of them kill themselves even after they've assumed the "correct" gender they've wanted "since they were born."
If there was a job with that mortality rate, we would've either banned it or mass produced robots to do it.
>>80291575
>Multilate self, pump body full of external hormones
>"Switching genders"
Fuck off. Most of them regret it and kill themselves anyway. Nobody gives a fuck about trannies, it's just an exercise in virtue signaling.
>>80296871
There are a lot of true aspects here...
>>80301584
Where do you think the genetic imprints for them come from? Do you think they are all a first generation mutation?
Then you think, how could they have passed their genes on if their mutation is self destructive?
Oh shit maybe people would rather hide their genetic conditions than be burned at the stake for them.
And you call that anon myopic.
>>80291575
Ausfag shit posting yet again
>>80302454
>>80302669
That and there are like two tranny former speedrunners of the Awesome Games Done Quick community.
Cosmo (now Narcissa) and apparently this princessproto from the OP image.
I actually feel bad for Cosmo.
>>80291575
You can't switch genders anon
>>80303098
What is your point even? Lots of negative things are genetic but still get passed down.
>>80293786
I agree even though you're a shitskin
we need more gender fluid people in our society
we need more people who will stand up for who they are and not be ashamed
>>80293786
>Pakistan
>"(((Radical)))" Islam
>>80303345
Why don't you go join ISIS if you want to restrict peoples freedoms, authoritarian boot licker cuck.
>>80303552
these people make me not want to transition fs
>>80291575
You can call yourself anything you want, just don't expect everybody else to play along.
>>80302569
Yes, to put it at its most brutal simplicity.
>>80291575
Because of the underlying narcissism to pretend you can switch genders. You make it though life with what God has given you I'm a French manlet, I'll never get selected for the NBA and that's that. Pretending otherwise would be outrageously self-centered and delusional.
Women can make babies, trannies can't. Choosing a lifestyle that is not conductive to child-rearing is degenerate becuase it is doomed to extinction.
People can do whatever the fuck they want but should not expect society's acceptance for their delusional behavior. Go wear a skirt and suck a cock if you must, I don't care but don't ask me to approve of you doing it.
>>80303736
I take it you've ceded the moral argument since you're only picking low hanging fruit
>>80303830
fuck god, he's the real fucking narcissist here if any of that shits real I'd side with Lucifer everytime
>>80304075
Pretty sure making reality gives you the right to define what's right and what isn't.
>>80303886
No. The moral argument is one that nobody can prove or disprove. How is being transgender immoral?
I've only argued in terms of empirical data since it is observable and testable:
1. Transgender people suffer from a physical from of neuro-intersexuality. This is objective and empirical.
2. Transgender people empirically benefit from transition.
3. Gender variance has existed forever. It's part of the human condition.
>>80291954
Fagget
>>80304521
Okay the third isn't empirical I copied from my earlier post in this thread. But the first two are, and they are most important.
>>80303297
>Lots of negative things are genetic but are still passed down
Yes but we don't fucking want them to do we.
Not only would you be unjustly persecuting a harmless degeneration, but you'd be forcing it to needlessly succeed when it shouldn't and doesn't even want to.
You'd be breeding misery. Literally and metaphorically.
>>80303822
So, hypothetically, murdering people doesn't make me a bad person? So if I kill everyone who knows you enough to want to actually prosecute me for murdering you, I have done nothing wrong?
