So... are guns the problem?
>>80201019
A culture of fear and hostility is the problem.
If they are owned by normal decent people, no.
If they are owned by cunts, yes,
the media is the problem
>>80201401
>If they are owned by cunts, yes,
Which, 99% of all new gun buyers are.
>>80201019
>So... are niggers the problem?
Yes
Fucking assault rifles. Why wouldn't this happen even more often? How do you avoid an escalation in sniper killings? Literally anybody can do it.
>everyone owns a gun
>people sometimes commit crimes
>criminals can be reasonably assumed to be armed with a gun
>police have to be more trigger happy
Epic.
Amricans are the problem.
In cultured countries using your gun is a last resort, in america it is the first response.
>>80201374
fpfp
You're all wrong. NIGGERS are the problem. If you detract black crime from the statistics, USA has the kill rate of an average European country.
>>80201894
This
>>80201613
Yes, because you are the only country in the world with niggers. Or spics. Or racial tensions. Or poor people.
But you have the biggest gun related death statistic. Plus the biggest prison population.
Jesus Christ.
>>80201019
woah glad this cop killer is off the streets
We have more guns than ever in this country but the level of violent crime has decreased. These types shootings are outliers but they reflect an animus in this country and the failure of leadership.
We've had looser restrictions on some types of firearms, and more restrictions of firearms, but we have always had gun violence and mass shootings. And if we got rid of guns we'd still have them.
>>80201019
No, it's decades niggers.
>>80201723
All those poor officers were sniped with an Assault Rifle 15.
>>80201019
No, we tried banning them, and look what happened.
>>80202067
>But you have the biggest gun related death statistic
That's evidently wrong you Italian imbecile.
>>80201894
Black culture is the problem.
In traditional cultured countries chimping out is unheard of, among blacks in America it's the holy grail of settling debates.
>>80201756
>criminals own guns
>people sometimes commit crimes but now more often
>criminals can be reasonably assumed to be armed with a gun still
>police have to be more trigger happy because citizens are getting robbed left and right
>>80201973
Ya and who were the ones who imported those nigs for slave labor in the first place? And now you are bitching that blacks are the problem? Kek
Also to mention that most mass shooting incidents are committed by whites in the US so they are also held responsible.
>>80202071
I'm sure there are as many g10 bb guns as ak's worldwide.
>>80201973
This. over 85% of crime in America is niggers.
>>80202067
Shit comparison.
We have 10 times more niggers per capita than any other westernized country for starters.
And if you think that any 3rd world African shithole is capable of recording proper murder statistics, then I have bad news for you.
>>80201019
Last time I checked crossbows weren't guns
>>80201019
>So... are guns the problem?
Nope.
People with guns are the problem.
We have a choice... we can control guns, or we can control people.
The choice is yours.
Black people are the problem.
>>80202083
Do you have a statistic of how often does having a gun help in avoiding a crime happening?
>>80202263
They weren't a problem when they were slaves.
>>80202071
Holy Fuck!!!
I was just down at my grandparents this weekend and my grandpa had this exact pellet gun sitting out in his office!
>>80201477
>MK
>>80201539
nice stats
>>80202301
Why is it shit? You also blame Europe for LOL KEKS with muslims, and the percentage of them in some countries is pretty big. Or you think it's only niggers?
>>80202263
US is actually not in the top 10 for mass shootings per capita. Norway beats us by a long shot.
>>80202368
Why would there be? If there isn't a crime in the first place, there is no reason to really record such thing.
What a stupid argument you have.
>>80202083
>animus
take that pseudoscientific mystical crap out of here
>>80201019
i bet after this picture was taken, all of those guns just left the room and started killing people left and right.
>>80201019
They are going to be the final solution.
>>80202374
Hell it was fine up until around 30 years ago
More people drown than die by guns each year.
BAN WATER!!!!!
BAN WATER!!!!!
BAN WATER!!!!!
BAN WATER!!!!!
BAN WATER!!!!!
Did someone say gun thread?
Every fucking gun thread.
I won't even grace the gun grabbers proper conversation.
You bunch are a lost cause.
I just need to convince the ones on the fence that gun control=not even once.
Bill Whittle's Solution to Gun Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwLjFm6GMBM
Number ONE with a bullet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
>>80201019
Obviously.
>>80202368
Well the number varies depending on the source. An absolute range would be between 68,000 and 2.5 million crimes avoided annually through defensive use of firearms in the U.S.
This is from Wiki.
>>80202747
I wish i was alive back then. My parents said it was amazing in the 70's.
>>80201019
In Grand Theft Auto, you can run around and shoot anyone you see on the street. The same makers of that game made Red Dead Redemption, a sandbox game like GTA but set in a cowboy setting.
In RDR, you couldn't just open fire on any covered wagon you came across, because you were getting shot back at.
If everyone had a gun, we'd have a polite society. Basic supply and demand.
>>80201019
Despite gun laws, criminals will find ways to get guns to harm law abiding citizens.
>>80201019
Jews are the problem
>>80202850
Retard.
>>80202604
I rephrase: is there any study on the correlation between lowering the crime and more guns? Good study that shows causality, not spurious correlation, that's why I asked that. I'm sure the NRA or others make polls asking "how many times did have a gun save your life?"
Or it's just irrelevant for you? Like, it's the 2nd amendment and we don't care about it creating more crime than it avoids?
Honest question.
>>80201019
I want an uzi so bad
>>80201019
Guns are peaceful. The people are the problem
>>80201019
NO OF COURSE NOT
2 GUYS COULD HAVE EASILY MURDERED NEARLY 11 ARMED COPS WITH JUST A KNIFE
GUNS DINDU NUFFIN
>>80201019
Mos def.
But tree hugger solutions of "banning guns" are useless in a place where all your neighbor states have retarded gun laws and mexican cartels do whatever they want because people have a sweet tooth for cocaine
>>80202795
Neoliberalism killed America.
>>80202525
Niggers are far more violent than muslims statistically speaking. And I never mentioned anything about muslims so I don't even know how that's relevant.
>>80202894
The answer to this is no. The correlation is there once you remove minorities, but it's very hard to deduce causality from this.
>>80202850
this. jews aka the communists are the problem
>Used to be able to buy a submachine gun from the Sears catalog for $20 with no government oversight and barely anything ever happened
>The process of buying a gun is now far more involved and includes a lot of government oversight
>Barely anything ever happens, still, but the media pretends that it's non stop wall to wall slaughter every single day
Intentionally deceiving the public should be a crime.
>>80202839
>If everyone had a gun, we'd have a polite society
You'd still have jackasses, but with a lot of added dead people.
>>80202839
If you had no guns in GTA you couldn't kill anyone. Also, you're a retard.
>>80201019
Those are BB guns in pic
>>80203144
>Jews
>Communists.
>>80201756
This de geso
>>80202248
Getting robbed more doesnt mean that police will be more trigger happy. There would be just more peaceful arrests.
Also criminals are less likely to fight back when police have reputation of not shooting from flinching
>>80202190
you are a 3rd world shithole though. america isn't.
if we banned guns we'd be like japan within 100 years in terms of murder
>>80201019
TL:DW, the US has a nigger problem not a gun problem. Those that want to murder would just as easily use alternatives to guns if they want someone dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
>>80203121
I'm trying to localize the precise reason why you guys are convinced the USA is such a shithole. So apparently it's niggers.
>>80203166
you mean like retards trying to sell global warming is a hoax in a daily basis?
too bad freedom of press has two edges
>>80202839
You are a fucking idiot of epic proportions. Hows puberty going?
>>80203322
Sorry this was for >>80203053
>>80202760
water, like airplanes which can also be used as weapons, have a purpose though.
guns only purpose are to kill people. so if we ban them obviously less people will die.
its common sense
>>80203168
I don't think that's true. Knowing someone could defend themselves with their own weapon is a deterrent on its own.
If you take away all the legally owned guns, then only criminals intending to break the law to begin with will have them.
>>80203177
Implying you can't drive into anyone, c4, etc.
Either way, if someone wants a gun they'll get one, even make one if they have to...they're not going away.
Democrats are the problem. Disarm Democrats when?
>>80203322
Absolutely. Here's a list of the safest American cities:
>http://247wallst.com/special-report/2015/12/09/the-safest-cities-in-america-2/
In 2014, the top city (pop. 258,386) had 0 homicides. Wanna know its secret? Wanna know the secret to every city in that list?
>no niggers
>>80203039
I'm not talking about the economic environment I'm just talking about everyday life with the nig-nogs down the street.
>>80203310
but the alternatives are nowhere near as easy
yea "bomb" materials are easy to acquire, but they aren't easy to build properly, they aren't easy to detonate properly, and they're normally in a fixed location
you have a much better chance of being caught trying to plant a bomb
>>80203516
> Knowing someone could defend themselves
People can already defend themselves, it doesn't stop jackasses being jackasses
>If you take away all the legally owned guns, then only criminals intending to break the law to begin with will have them.
You register gun ownership in order to stop them falling into criminal hands.
In the US you have a problem: the guns are already out there.
Allowing our farm equipment rights and freedom of choice was the real mistake, things were going pretty smooth up until then. Seriously though, guns aren't the problem, corruption and mismanagement at the highest levels are tearing this country apart pretty well and the media is just fuel to the fire. It almost looks intentional.
>>80203769
>You register gun ownership in order to stop them falling into criminal hands.
Why do you think criminals are going to bother using the registration process?
>In the US you have a problem: the guns are already out there.
Then level the playing field: give every citizen a gun.
>>80203586
>humans who happen to live in america are the problem, disarm humans who happen to live in america when
>>80203959
Why do that when we can just limit down to Democrats? They're the ones killing everyone while Republicans don't seem to have a problem with violence.
>>80203663
Alternatives could be anything, from knifes to blunt weapons.
>>80203926
>Why do you think criminals are going to bother using the registration process?
Where do you think criminals are going to purchase their guns if guns are controlled?
>Then level the playing field: give every citizen a gun.
"Give"?
Surely, that's "big government".
>>80204158
>Where do you think criminals are going to purchase their guns if guns are controlled?
The same place they do now, the black market.
I feel sorry for people that live in such shitty ares that they think they need a gun to protect themselves. If you're that poor then you deserve to have a nigger break into your house and rape your wife and kill your family.
>>80204289
>The same place they do now, the black market.
Most "black markets" guns were purchased legally.
>>80204473
Only 10% of guns used in crimes are stolen, and only 8% of gun dealers nationwide have been found to have sold guns to people who then used them in crimes.
>police killed black
>leberals say it's white's fault
>provoked black killed police
>leberals say it's gun's fault
>provoked whites say ok, lets start race war
>No one blames liberals
>>80204898
hi japan
>>80203486
Well this is pure bullshit
>guns only purpose are to kill people. so if we ban them obviously less people will die.
its common sense
murder doesnt stop there, u are completely fucking wrong.
UK banned guns in the 90s, did the murder rate drop? No, it actually SKY-ROCKET.
UK now have tens and tens of thousands of murder by tools, hammers, knifes etc.
They have the world biggest knife murder epidemic. London is the murder capital of Europe.
If a society is violent, endless of studies shows that banning guns will only sky-rocket the crime and murder rate.
An armed society, is a polite society.
Despite of all the false flag attacks, guns will never be banned in the US, you need a civil war for that.
The only time when the people will need the guns is when the Government try to take them away, like the current time.
An armed peoples milita is needed to protect the people from the biggest murderer ever in history -government.
And if a few people die in False Flag CIA operations, then so be it.
The option is to give up and the development will shortly be a prison planet.
>people have only been killing each other since guns were invented
lol, is this what the Left actually believes?
>>80205473
best post ever
/thread
