Which political party will ultimately ban the ability to manually drive your own car?
Some people like myself enjoy driving.
>Is the goal to make every human experience as safe as possible? We might as well be living in a bubble or a virtual reality.
>>80112100
I went to 3 diffrent dealer ships to find a new car with a manual. It was truly saddening.
>Save the stick!
Manual cars as normies know them are for retards.
Not even manual racecars drive the way civilian manuals do.
The fact that a car can park alone yet still need you to press the clutch and shitft gears is absolutely haram.
>>80112384
Make them order one.
It's fucking frustrating, luckily I was able to get my last two new cars in manual. I fucking refuse to buy anything else.
>>80112562
t. bus bomber.
>>80112675
I got a really good deal on the car they had instead. knocked off 4k from their asking price to start with.
>>80112100
>doing something the stupid more complicated way when there are better options
Why?
>4 gears
>>80112100
>Which political party will ultimately ban the ability to manually drive your own car?
Both of them.
>>80112881
There's a visceral rush when you control the transmission yourself. It's like skydiving or skateboarding. It's fun as fuck.
>>80112822
I'm not in favor of cars that drive themselves or that have all that spyware integrated on them
I like driving too and I like mechanical cars, not digital shit that you have to plug a cable in to know what's wrong with the engine.
I still think the gear stick is an extremely primitive and outdated way of shitfting gears. All manuals should have a means of shifting gears that does not require pressing a pedal.
There in America you see manuals as the ultimate shit but here in Europe they're the cheapest crap, nobody wants them.
>>80112100
Since modern automatics are more efficient, I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats banned manuals, like they did with the incandescent light bulb.
>>80113155
it's second nature, I could drive manual in my sleep. It's not "incredibly complicated" you stupid fuck
>Claim to be a man
>Drives automatic car
Might as well start your transformation to a woman
Democrats, undoubtedly.
Once automated driving is good enough, it will become a question of "safety" and "efficiency" at the expense of personal liberty.
Probably GPS-enforced automatic locks, eventually too, so you can't drive manual on public roads and such.
>>80113025
This. Republicans because the car companies/the market want it, and the Democrats because it will be safer.
It's going to be bipartisanship at its finest and I can't wait. Luddites get rekt. Literally.
If you drive an automatic then you don't like fun
>>80113326
Im not saying it's complicated, I can do it too.
I'm saying it's extremely primitive.
Gear sticks and gear pedals on the wheel should never require to press a pedal.
That system is shit
>>80113155
They are cheap here because no one wants them and the people that are buying cars (mostly the new one) were never taught or never bothered to learn to drive a manual. I enjoy the control and the lack of maintance that needs to be done to keep it running.
my last car was a manual and I had to replace the clutch at 210,000 miles because it has not been replaced before then. the MPG can be better too and its generally safer due to having to pay attention to the traffic for shifting. just try to text and drive a stick at the same time.
>also down shifting when the beat drops.
>>80112100
None
Insurance companies will probably make it so cheap to insure a driverless car that it would be dumb not to put a kit on
>tfw have a 5 speed
>>80112100
>Or live in a virtual reality
>Implying we aren't already
My dad had a 55 Chevy. It had manual steering, brakes, windows, and was manually shifted (3 in the tree). You fucking pussies don't have a clue what manual is. You don't even have manual clutches.
>>80113155
Everybody wants manuals because they are objectively bettert han automatics
>>80112100
You're living in a virtual jew reality.
Manual cars will be like having a horse: for people who are into that sort of thing (and have the money to pay for it - because oh boy are those insurance premiums going to be high)
>>80113594
I can shift gears too with an automatic measuring the pressure I put into the accelerator.
I too get the enjoyment of a manual but I've never prefered a manual with clutch pedal over an automatic.
The best car for the driving enthusiast is imo a manual that shifts gears without clutch pedal, directly from the stick like in a racecar
I'm not talking about old and classic cars, of course.
>>80113568
>I'm saying it's extremely primitive.
Guitars are primitive and they are still fun as fuck to play. Some things are just so damn simple and fun, I wish they'll never get "better" and more advanced.
>>80113696
>manual clutches
you mean where you have to double clutch?
lol that's one of the few things I actually know about transmissions
>>80112100
I think it's inevitable, but if the Democrats are in control they will do it about 10 years sooner.
>>80113971
No, I'm saying it's a system that has no advantages and plenty of detriments.
Like if you deploy in the military and you are issued a stone knife. It works but there are already better options
Manual cars that dont have a clutch pedal dont detract from the control and tight driving experience. On the contrary they enhance it
>>80112100
The goal is to control as much of our lives as possible.
>>80112100
It's not going to happen as soon as you think. For years, car manufacturers have stayed in business because when one of their machines kills the occupant or somebody else it has generally been the fault of the operator.
Once the machine is responsible for the fatality, the manufacturer is liable.
It's all fun and games until the first dozen are so are put out of business.
>>80113155
>I'm not in favor of drums that play themselves or that have all that digitalware integrated on them
>I like playing drums too and I like traditional drums, not digital shit that you have to plug a cable in to make sounds.
>I still think the drumstick is an extremely primitive and outdated way of playing the drums. >All drumkits should have kick pedals and hi-hats that does not require pressing a pedal.
>There in America you see drumkits as the ultimate shit but here in Europe they're the cheapest crap, nobody wants me, er them.
What the fuck are you talking about? Flappy paddle sequential automatics can't do engine braking or double clutching. Sure, they are good for hyper-sports cars with the double clutches and high torque/hp, but you can't engine brake or double clutch and some ppl use these techniques every day to drive. It's called DRIVING and it should use your whole bodily talent
>>80112957
6 gear master race reporting in
>>80113361
i see you decided to finally ditch the leaf, good work looks better already
>>80113891
Its possable to trick an auto in to changing gears but there is still a lack of control over all.
A lot of it is about personal taste. I simply dont like the feeling of "just getting in the car". I want the extra control and excitement that comes with manual features including steering. My new car has drive by wire stearing and traction control and its like being in a bubble. there is no road feel and no feed back to the driver. I got pushed off the road once with it on to some wet grass and the ABS and TCS basicly just said "well, fuck this" and I went straight in to a wood even though I cut the wheel to slow.
I just feel that mechanical systems are better for lots of small reasons that dont really have to do wtih preformance.
>>80112100
How would banning manual cars make driving safer? Surely it would make driving more dangerous?
>>80112881
The only "better" option is a good DCT and you can't dump the clutch in that.
>>80114539
pleb
>>80114048
No, he means unassisted. Modern cars have hydraulic clutches, which are much easier to use. You're thinking of an unsynchronized transmission.
>>80114754
Self-driving cars don't get drunk. Human drivers do. Self-driving cars don't sway when the driver decides to moon pedestrians. Human drivers do. Self-driving cars don't get road rage. Human drivers do. When human drivers are the biggest threat to other drivers' safety, they're gone.
>>80114934
Is that thing real?
>>80115099
>what is a semi
>>80115099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uemq1PpA63M
>>80114435
I hope that's the case. First dozen deaths and all manufacturing comes to a halt. No one will want to buy one anymore. I even prefer stairs to sidewalks and elevators … to a point. If it's not over 3 stories. But let me decide for myself what I want to use.
Eventually they'll control your sexual expression and tell you what days you're allowed to touch your penis and with whom you're allowed to. If you reject their transgender partners, they'll lock you up.
>>80114934
>that location of 12 and 9
fucking hell
didnt read all the replies, but the most important advantage of manual vs automatic is, it can simply survive much more abuse and added power. Plus rebuild is like 1/5 of cost of auto.
>>80112100
This will be a leftist issue in probably a hundred years or so but is unlikely to work.
>>80113155
Just shut the fuck up already. You know shit about cars. Manuals may be slower than high tier automatics, but they are much more robust and cheaper to maintain. That and the fact that I have the complete control over my car, are the reasons why I will always choose a manual. If it's too complicated for you, take a fucking bus son.
>>80115063
So who has to pay for insurance once self driving cars are a thing?
It's couldn't be the owners fault if they weren't in control and the car hits something else.
>>80115336
>what is a hurr durr
>>80116265
Eaton's a bunch of cunts
>>80115657
>it can simply survive much more abuse and added power
Not true... is this some kinda strange crossboard trolling from /o/ ?
>Ohhh muh commute, I dont want to deal with so much traffic with 3 pedals omg I totally know how to drive manual, I stalled muh friend's honda in a parking lot twice I totally know how I just choose not to
Every scrub ass bitch's excuse for not driving manual
>>80112100
The goal is to take away people's ability to transport themselves. No going WHERE they don't want you to go, no going WHEN they don't want you to go.
Any of the NWO controlled parties will support it.
>>80114197
It's really not a useless feature though.
A manual transmission can allow a car with a dead battery to start by popping the clutch while someone pushes it.
A manual transmission can be used in a higher gear from a full stop to move in deep snow/mud without spinning the tires.
A manual transmission can be used to slow down without braking by simply downshifting.
The list goes on. Manual transmissions are a superior way to drive due to the variety of actions and options they provide a knowledgeable/skilled driver.
>6 speedykids think they're driving a manual
>>80115923
>hurr durr manly man likes things the way they are
Fuck off already grandpa
Wearing a seatbelt is already a "ticketable" offense in many states.
I live in the United States of America, keep that nanny shit in the UK where it belongs.
everyone should be forced to learn how to drive manual. maybe there wouldn't be so many retard drivers then
>>80116753
Exactly. How can you wage a proper rebellion without manually driven vehicles? Supply logistics alone would be impossible. The rebellion would never get off its feet.
>>80116881
>slow down without breaking
Unless your breakpads are fucking gone, which what are you doing nigger, engine breaking ruins your vehicle.
What's worth more, break pads that cost less than 50 dollars to replace all four, or hundreds on an engine at the least?
>>80116990
>Muh 69-motion trannies
If you can't drive a manual, you shouldn't be driving you little shit. Go tip your fedora and jerk off to furries, you fuck
>>80117313
>engine breaking ruins your vehicle.
>>80117313
>engine braking ruins your vehicle
Show yourself out
>>80113103
99% of people don't drive for fun, they drive to get from A to B. The less effort required to do that the better.
>>80117313
Your automatic transmission car also engine brakes
>>80117313
>engine breaking ruins your vehicle
16-20 automatic only
20-26 manual wrx
Never driving automatic again (unless I have to like firetrucks at work)
Automatic is for fags.
>>80112100
>Blacks walk in front of it.
>It must stop.
I'm guessing that none of the engineers working on this are relatives of Reginald Denny?
>>80112100
Both. Manual cars will become a thing of the past and eventually you'll only be able to use them on private roads.
>>80117712
>>80117941
>>80117795
>excuse me while i down shift
>dont worry about that grinding noise thats just my engine fucking itself
>i dont wanna press this peddle to slow down cause thats too easy
>>80113155
>I still think the gear stick is an extremely primitive and outdated way of shitfting gears
>choosing the optimum rpm to shift at is primitive and outdated
Do you even drive?
>>80118214
>>dont worry about that grinding noise thats just my engine fucking itself
Thats not the engine, thats you grinding gears because you didn't push the clutch in all the way.
>>80112100
Driving is one of our greatest freedoms that people take for granted. I have no doubt that, if the world keeps "progressing" the way it has been, I will be telling my incredulous grandkids about how free men and women used to control their own vehicles. Of course, by that time, I expect to be in a (black-run) home for white racists.
>>80118214
If you're grinding the tranny while shifting gears, you need to go back and learn how to drive son.
>>80115063
Sorry, misunderstood. I thought you were talking about manual cars in the you shift gears yourself sense, not self-driving cars.
>>80117313
>engine breaking ruins your vehicle.
Oh for fuck's sake lads.
>>80118214
Not even sure how to grind gears downshifting.. you'd have to be a limp legged faggot
I expect motorcycles to be either made ridiculously restrictive or outright banned before automated cars.
>tfw get to terrorize normies in their automated cars mad max style
I hate driving. I'd much rather ride along, sniffing bags of drugs as we go
>>80118382
>grinding the tranny
>>80118777
>tfw you havn't mastered the palm bump and shift with your knuckles trick
Don't they teach this in driving school?
>>80112100
>The address you entered is not a government approved destination. *doors locked* This car will now drive to your local police station for further inquiry.
Why would anyone be against self driving cars?
>>80118214
Learn to control your clutch. Down shifting, especially if you want to use the engine for braking, will demand a fuckload more rpms from the engine, which you've just idled to change gear. The motion of the car will rev the engine up hard (this is the braking happening!), but as long as you're gentle it can be smooth.
I grant you that if you engage the clutch too fast and the car's gearing forces the engine to increase in rpm immediately then the torque that get's exerted could fuck shit up, say while dropping to 1st at 70mph.
>>80118949
Poor choice of words on my part
>>80113750
this desu, also they save more fuel if used properly
>>80119206
>I grant you that if you engage the clutch too fast and the car's gearing forces the engine to increase in rpm immediately then the torque that get's exerted could fuck shit up, say while dropping to 1st at 70mph.
Thats why you rev match
>>80119410
You can but you don't have to. Synchros take care of that,. But no rev matching or mechanical synchronization can help someone who decides to drop it into second gear while going 120.
>>80119206
>>80119410
Is this what "double clutching" refers to?
New to manual (5-speed Jetta), and have seen videos on double clutching but never really figured out whether double clutching is a meme or actually a good practice.
>>80119781
Synchros synchonize the clutch with the gears to the drive shaft
Synchros do not blip the throttle for you when you downshift.
>>80119817
Double clutching is for when your car has no synchros
>>80119410
Exactly. Just pointing out it's the only way you could ever really do any damage this way, and you'd have to be braindead.
Genuine question now, surely rev matching while trying to engine brake defeats the point since you're supplying the rotation to the engine that it should be sapping from the kinetic energy of the car. No?
>>Is the goal to make every human experience as safe as possible?
>b-but I like danger!
Grow up, kid.
>>80119817
Yes, you drop the car into neutral, tap the gas to get the revs up, and then drop it into lower gear. It should smooth out the transition and make the whole thing easier on your synchros.
>>80119969
>Genuine question now, surely rev matching while trying to engine brake defeats the point since you're supplying the rotation to the engine that it should be sapping from the kinetic energy of the car. No?
Rev matching stops that sudden jolt you get when changing gears. Rev matching allows you to match the gear speed of the lower gear so its a smoother switch..
>>80120142
>changing gears
sorry when you down shift.
>>80119946
>>80120046
When tapping the gas to get the revs up, do I need to let go of the clutch? In all the videos I've seen, the people let go of the clutch and get the revs up, then press the clutch before shifting.
Why not just get the revs up while the clutch is down? Isn't the clutch-down position the same as clutch-up in "neutral"?
I hate driving manually, it fucking suck ass, especially the overpriced, garbage "cars" we have here.
I own both a manual and an automatic. Both have their ups and downs, don't listen to autists from either side. Automatics are built for city driving especially when you're stuck in traffic, or cruising. Manuals are built for those days when you want to enjoy the car to its fullest and not simply a trip to the supermarket, those days where you just want to drive without a destination in mind. Also more gas efficient if you know what you're doing.
>>80120297
>When tapping the gas to get the revs up, do I need to let go of the clutch?
At the correct time, yes. You want to match the RPM of the lower gear
>why not rev up when the clutch is down
because then you won't match the gear, you're just revving with the clutch in.
You have to clutch in, down shift, rev to the lower gear, then when the RPM is right, let the clutch out.
>>80112100
They'll be banned from all urban areas. You still need manual vehicles in the countryside for offroad driving, industry, construction and agriculture
Cars are already heavily regulated in some of the more civilised cities where frankly they're just a grievance
>>80119969
When you engine brake in 4th gear, once you go into third the revs are going to jump up to meet the rpm of the transmission since you're essentially using a smaller gear now. The blip of the throttle is done to get the engine's RPM up to speed so when the flywheel meets the clutch plate, they are at similar RPMs
That small throttle blip is insignificant in terms of fuel consumption.
>>80120297
u wot m8
>>80112100
There's no difference between Repuiblican and Democrat policy. Either one would do it and not care.
>>80120142
See
>>80117313
We are in agreement m8. I thought you had read this guys other post, context was engine braking. He thought down shifting caused grinding and thought this was damaging the engine. Was pointing out it is the jolt he is noticing as you say.
>>80112100
>i post on o and pol
>how can i combine these two pathetic hobbies of mine
>i know..
>>80120297
When you hold the clutch, you are separating the engine (flywheel) from the transmission (clutch plate). You drop it into neutral so that you connect these two rotating components and get them both up to speed.
A correct way to do it would be to slow down in let's say 4th gear, press the clutch and drop it into neutral, release the clutch while you're in neutral, blip the gas, press the clutch and downshift.
>>80120762
Theres nothing wrong with engine breaking though. Its an effective way to brake the car
>>80113568
>Stick
>Primitive
Jorge plz.
>>80113750
This, even DSG and Double CLUTCH transmissions have some problems when comparing them with a manual.
>>80113891
Stop spewing bullshit, you can hardly control anything at all in an auto tragic unless you are driving with some kind of trip tonic transmition or paddle shifters.
>>80114048
Double clutching is only useful in non synchro manual cars, AKA everything after the 80s
>>80114539
Mah nigga
>>80117313
Unless you go from 6th to 2second at 80miles per hour, no, engine breaking when done right which rev matching will never damage your engine or transmission.
>>80120142
This, engine breaking is not the sudden slow down when just downshifting and immediately lifting the clutch, if you rev match from 6th to 3rd correctly and just let the car go by itself, you'll see how fast the car decelerate.
>>80112562
>Not even manual racecars drive the way civilian manuals do
Lol, nice try. Coming from Spain, you should know better.
Even sequential gearboxes that allow you to pull to shift each gear require you to use a clutch to let off in first gear.
>>80113568
>>80113891
nobody listen to this fool.
>>80112100
I doubt they'll get banned though. Autos are slightly more efficient, but it's like only 1 mpg better.
What I do think they're going to push for is higher and higher fuel economy to the point where it's either electric motors or nothing. They're going to try to get rid of the ICEs. And they'll all point to Tesla as their wet dream.
In that scenario, the tranny doesn't really matter all that much anymore, does it? Some electric motors have enough torque down low, they don't need a tranny or they only need 1-2 gears.
>>80120598
I'm referring to the fact this guy was talking about engine braking, so I assumed the guy talking about rev matching was too. I do know what rev matching is, but nice explanation nonetheless.
>>80120297
>When tapping the gas to get the revs up, do I need to let go of the clutch?
Yes.
>Why not just get the revs up while the clutch is down?
The point of double-clutching is to get the layshaft and output shaft turning at (roughly) the same speed so the next gear you engage does so smoothly. While the clutch is depressed, the engine is disconnected from the layshaft, so changing the speed of the engine does nothing to the layshaft without the clutch up.
>Isn't the clutch-down position the same as clutch-up in "neutral"?
Not at all, you're actually manipulating opposite ends of the transmission. The clutch disconnects the engine from the layshaft (via the input shaft). When you select a gear you're actually connecting the output shaft to the appropriate gear. With the clutch down and transmission in neutral, you've completely isolated the layshaft and have no way to manipulate it's speed (other than knowing friction will gradually slow it over time).
>>80115099
No.
>>80121378
>good-looking .gif with gears
>does not move
Sad!
>>80120971
This was my original point.
My question to you was why would one rev match while engine braking, but I don't think that's what you were saying.
>>80121206
My bad, I misread what you wrote. But yeah, rev matching while engine braking is done usually when you're going for maximum attack. Otherwise people normally engine break without rev matching.
>i prefer manual because i'm a real man
>>80121789
>My question to you was why would one rev match while engine braking,
You rev match to stop that hard jolt of going from say 5th to 4th. That jolt isn't the engine braking thats your transmission being out of synch with the engine's speed and the gear speed. Synchros don't synchronize that.
>>80121898
>prefer manual because I don't want to drop a grand or more on it when it craps out
>>80115099
its an opel utility vehicle forget the name called a crawler or wanker or something
>>80121789
>My question to you was why would one rev match while engine braking
Saves wear on your clutch.
>>80114485
i can engine brake with my 3t40 fgt
>>80121958
Oh shit I didn't know there was another layer to it. I was purely thinking of the shove forward in the seat you get (which very closely corresponds with the movement of the rpm needle as the engine revs up).
I'm learnding.
>>80114539
5
SPEED
I drove automatic until I was 20. My car gave out one day so I borrowed my dad's 84 jeep camanche to go back a d forth to work in( I didn't know how to drive a stick then). So I practice in a parking lot and got the hang of it. It made driving fun
Never bought an automatic again
>>80122835
Same here brah
Manual is just more fun, and you actually become a better driver.
>>80114539
8 gear eco mustard race reporting in.
Some of you guys should look up animations of how manual transmissions work. It will help your shifting if you understand what is happening.
Nothing better than perfectly revmatching.
Or if you live on the dangerous side, shifting without the clutch without grinding gears.
>>80123194
>Synchro shifting.
That just too much, even Power shifting is safer.
>>80121898
real men drive unsynchronised manual transmission's
>>80116265
at least put an 18 thats a 13
>>80123194
>Or if you live on the dangerous side, shifting without the clutch without grinding gears.
Had to do it once when my clutch cable broke in the middle of fucking nowhere. It was an interesting ride home desu familia
>>80120513
OK this makes sense when you have synchros, and is pretty much what I do already. This is not double clutching, to the best of my understanding.
>>80120969
>When you hold the clutch, you are separating the engine (flywheel) from the transmission (clutch plate).
Thank you! This helps me understand what happens during double clutching.
While I have you guys here, what are the best resources to learn about cars in general? Not just transmissions (I'm already finding some good Youtube vids) but stuff like the pathway from gas-tank to engine, and other systems in the car?
>>80121378
Thank you for an illustration of the layshaft and the idle gear. I was not making the connection that clutch in =/= idle/neutral gear.
>>80123414
>>80124007
It isn't too bad on my car, if you can't shift with one finger then you don't have the correct RPMs.
It will nearly shift on its own with a little nudge if I've got it just right.
>>80124007
you should of just got some serbain feral dogs to pull the car home
>>80124172
This is a good place to start. It's not too detailed, but it shows you the basics fairly well
http://www.howacarworks.com/
>>80124307
grab the bottom of the shifter,less leverage
>>80120513
>You have to clutch in, down shift, rev to the lower gear, then when the RPM is right, let the clutch out.
>tfw your synchros are toast
I have to revmatch every gear except 4th and 5th to even get it in gear. Sure is fun though.
>>80124481
I use feral dogs to collect money from those who owe me. But I did start packing a couple of Albanians in the trunk when I need some manual labor.
Manuals are pretty commonplace in the UK
>>80124307
I used to drive a crappy Lada back then. Actually, the engine and transmission was crappy, but the Niva itself was pretty good. Ever since I dropped a Mercedes E class engine and transmission in it, I don't have any issues.
>>80124615
give gas to loosen the tension on clutch
pop it out
give gas to match good rpm
pop it in
0 clutches given senpai
hopefully all cars are banned from cities soon. big, polluting, dangerous. they get free parking often on both sides of the road. you know how much I pay per square meter in my neighborhood? and yet car owners for some reason (actually quite an obvious reason) get free reign to do what they want.
I normally lurk but here is a thread where I may actually be useful. I'm a qualified ADI (driving instructor) in the UK so (You) me with any questions regarding manual transmission or driving in general.
>>80112100
As if that shit will ever happen in any of our lifetimes. Sure, self-driving cars will be a thing rather sooner than later, but they will never become mandatory anytime soon.
>>80125245
>Hippie cyclist detected
>>80112100
I miss my manual so much. :(
>>80125370
you must have fun with all the poo in loo's and other assorted shitskins
>>80113594
Retards will still text and crash even more.
>>80125757
Luckily I live in mostly white area, I would literally never relocate to a any city / town with a lot of niggers or poos - I think if I did I would just tell them my schedule was full until they fucked off.
this is an /o/ thread now.
>>80124893
This is fun to do as well. I really need to get a spare transmission soon.
>>80126758
/o/ is the best board on 4chan really
>>80126897
>Vtec
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>>80127101
Fuck your over glorified Turbocharge
>>80126897
Its mostly shitposting but with good, salty bantz. I love it.
>>80127281
Wait a second, engine braking is bad?
>Going 40 in third gear
>Press in clutch
>RPMs drop to nothing
>Then press in brake
>Slow down
>Stop
>Shift to first
That's bad for your transmission? Genuinely surprised if that's the case, thought it was safer and better than downshifting all the way before slowing.
Sorry for being an ignorant American I only learned how to drive manual last year
>>80125482
It'll get phased out. When self-driving cars are better at driving than people, government regulations will pop up saying all cars that the manufacturers build must have self-driving technology. Then, it will only be "classic" and "antique" cars that can be driven manually and auto racing will be seen as an old-timey sport like horse racing is now.
>>80127670
That isn't engine braking. Engine braking is with foot off the clutch, in gear, letting the compression of the engine slow you down, usually includes downshifting.
>>80127670
You don't supposed to press clutch then brake. Brake then clutch if you need to stop.
>>80127891
Is it a bad thing if I do simply out of habit?
>>80127670
That's not engine braking, you are using your brake pads to brake not your engine.
Engine braking isnusing your engine to slow down, for example
>Going 60 in 6th.
>Clutch in
>Put in 4th
>Blip throttle until desirable RPM to Rev match engine with transmission
>Let the clutch out
>The car will star to slow down on it's own
>Repeat but now go for 3rd gear
>Then second gear (I just press the clutch and brake in this case since the car slows down to like 20mph on its own).
>>80128021
It's not bad per see but coasting makes it harder to regain control in case something g goes wrong and you need to accelerate to evade something
Use the brakes and then when coming to a stop, press the clutch so that the engine don't stall.
>>80128021
You have less control over the car and you apply extra wear to your tyres, brakes and clutch i believe (not sure about the clutch).
>>80127557
>It took her five tries to figure out which side has the fuel door
>It would have taken more if the Beetle didn't show up
How does somebody that inept even function in life? Basic tasks seem to be a major challenge to her.
>>80128358
Those are the kind of people who NEED and WANT self driving cars
>>80127670
What you described is coasting, not engine braking. An example of engine braking would be using a lower gear when driving down a gradient, limiting the speed of your vehicle. Engine braking isn't harmful unless you use an inappropriate gear for the circumstance (e.g 2nd when going down a decline at 40mph) which would likely stall the vehicle and knacker your gearbox.
In your situation that you green text'd you want to brake until you're close to a stop, then clutch down, into first, then move off.
>>80128047
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>>80128256
Cool, thanks
>>80113471
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/30/tesla-autopilot-death-self-driving-car-elon-musk
Actually it's the early adopters of new technology that will be getting rekt, expect to see a lot more of this type of hilarity as they use retarded guinea pigs to work out the kinks on their self driving cars.
>>80128256
Extra wear to throw out bearing, but those usually last as long as the clutch if not longer, and you should replace it when you get a new clutch anyhow.
Less control though, and it will give you an instant fail on some driving tests depending on where you are.