You fucks convinced my mentally ill friend the holocaust never happened, and now he keeps going on about it. It's illegal here to do that and I'm really worried something is going to happen to him.
I don't even care about the truth, I just want my friend to be safe.
I hope you're happy you nazi cunts.
>>80076846
> having mentally ill friends
>>80076846
It's illegal to say that in Canada? Jesus, what a country.
>>80076846
Wouldn't he get some sort of pass for being, you know, mentally ill?
typical cancuck.
>MY COUNTRY SUPPRESSES THE THINKING OF ANOTHER POSSIBLE OPTION OF THE VALIDITY OF THE HOLOCAUST
>MY AUTISTIC FRIEND JUST AS AUTISTIC AS ME NOW THINKS DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS
>HELP!!!!!!!!
Its perfectly normal to question things in life, what if the holocaust isnt real? He could be right, and there obvious facts that support both theories.
Just let it rest, just say. DOnt talk about it in public
>>80077080
I wouldn't worry, even leaves don't take other leaves seriously.
>>80076846
pretty much have to be mental to believe denial arguments - your friend will be fine as the state realizes this
>>80076846
I object to that image. it says that /pol/ suppresses dissenting opinions but nothing could be further from the truth. this is the largest and most open political forum in the world
>>80077187
I don't care if it is real or not, I'm just worried about him.
hees seen the light, good on him
>>80076846
Crazy people tend to identify with one another. You're probably a crazy too.
Go away, crazy person
>>80076846
>You feel that the problem is that your friend doesn't believe that the holocaust ever happened, rather than the fact that having this view is illegal in your country
wew lad
>>80076846
So what? He is mentally, it doesn't matter.
>>80076846
Nobody cares
>>80076846
This is now a red pill thread.
>>80076846
Which parts of the Holocaust does he deny, the masturbation machines?
>>80076846
>see flag
hmmm
>>80077780
>>80076846
hilarious that even a purportedly "anti-/pol/" image still uses the A. W. Mann happy merchant as the basis for its depiction of a Nazi
>>80076846
Dont worry cancuck.
If he tries hard enough he will be protected by Kek himself
>>80077298
You retards keep repeating that but it's entirely untrue. Any opinion that differs from the hivemind will be shouted down, totally ignored, or be written off as a troll. It's impossible to have any sort of genuine exchange of ideas without being hounded by hoardes of memeing mouthbreathers.
Not complaining btw. I don't come here for enlightened discussion. Just pointing out how much of a retard you are for believing something so obviously untrue.
>>80077298
.05c has been deposited into your shill account
>>80077298
Deadly assault cat!
>>80077780
>all of the responses are ad hominem nonsense
Sasuga /pol/chan
>>80078817
fuck off
BANNED
Oh wait
>>80077991
What?
>>80076846
>Canadians laws are shit
That's not our problem, that's yours, leaf
>you did this to my mentally ill friend
We made you friend mentally ill?
>I don't care about truth, m-muh frendz
Your friend can plead insanity, what are you worried about?
>I hope you're happy nazi cunts
From one cunt to another, I am very happy.
>>80076846
>It's illegal here to do that
Mounties are on there way as we speak
>>80076846
>Friend could potentially be arrested for thought crime
>dumb leaf still doesn't realize this is just more evidence that /pol/ is always right
>>80080277
We can complain about the laws all we want but I'm still mad about my friend.
>>80081168
Does it matter if you are right? Isn't it better to just keep your opinion to yourself?
>>80080110
Oh boy. Somebody put on a pot of coffee. I feel a red pill incoming.
>>80081229
Holy shit how blind could you be to an oppressive government?
Yeah, next time a Somali rapes you, remember it's better to just spread your cheeks.
God I hate this country.
>>80076846
>it's illegal to say non-government-approved words in Canada but somehow /pol/ is the problem
>>80076846
wtf i hate holocaust denial now
>>80077298
Tactical kitty ready for action.
>>80080110
>>80080110
After WW2 there was an enormous amount of anti-nazi propganda. This included:
- the gass chamber
- mass starvation
- making jews into soap and lampshades
- jews being masturbated to death by machiens
- peddle driven brainsmashers
- mass shooting of jews
The brain smasher, masturbation machines, soap jews and lamshades made out of jews went away from the common narrative pretty quickly, though some people still believe this non-sense
The gas chambers do not make any sense either. The mass starvation and mass shootings happened though, for example the Babi Yarr massacre
>>80078817
no, it's the truth. maybe you don't understand what suppression means.
you'll be shouted at by other users but your opinion will remain 100% visible. people aren't obligated to agree with you though, you will get lots of memers and people may not take you seriously, but any attention you get will actually result in your post getting more visibility, not less.
compare that to other popular political forums which invariably ban for offensive viewpoints or implement an upvote/downvote system that effectively hides unpopular viewpoints.
this really is a free market of ideas. the only content that can't be posted is content that is irrelevant to the board's topic (which is incredibly broad) or material that violates US law.
>>80082294
Nobody ever posts conclusive proof of this not having happened. It's all just babbling and hurtful to autistic people like my friend.
>>80080110
You'll really want to watch this if you have the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97L_SJrPl6g
>>80076846
>I don't even care about the truth, I just want my friend to be safe.
You're a coward and a cuck. Your forefathers would be ashamed of you.
>>80076846
What about the freedom of speech?
>>80079398
I didn't say dissent was banned.
>>80076846
Implying it happened
>>80082669
You can't help your friend by sheltering him.
While the Holocaust narrative is in many ways false, it's no usefull to focus on. It will be forgotten in a couple of years and jews hated for their role in flooding white nation with non-whites. In looking forward to the backlash against jews.
>>80082669
Our "proof" is at least as conclusive as theirs, difference is the revisionist version isnt the one blasted on Hollywood and msm for the past 50 years.
>>80082988
You literally don't know what suppression is. Don't expect everyone to sit around and clap at your ridiculous babble.
>>80081229
Best of luck to your friend, if he's going full 1488 he probably does have some issues. Being aware of the many lies about history and being racially conscious isn't bad though, he simply needs to remember to still be a good person and to not let differences shape how he treats people. He can support legislation to remove a people, but he shouldn't treat said people individually as lesser.
Tell him if he wants to hold those positions he needs to know the evidence and debate material to be able to defend it at all times and as well, to not spout it willy nilly if he hopes to function in society. There's a time and place for everything.
Perhaps convince him of a middle of the road position, eg 'I don't know what happened, but many if not most of the claims are undeniably false. I would say that there were many executed, but just as many died from disease (primarily cholera) and starvation due to the destruction of supply lines. So, we cannot know due to popular history obfuscating the issue and genuine racists attempting to deny everything, but we should as a society be able to debate and question these matters openly and freely"
So, spin it as not knowing entirely, but mainly just supporting the rights of free speech to debate and question.
>>80082669
>>80079207
non-arguments can be discarded with non-arguments
>>80077035
its not OP is a fucking idiot
>>80082568
Refusing to meaningfully engage dissenting opinion is functionally the same as banning/downvoting.
I never said anyone is or should be obligated to agree with anyone else. But if you honestly believe /pol/ is the place with the most open and honest political discussion, you're a deluded moron.
>>80084341
How on earth did you come to the conclusion that a bunch of Internet randos calling you a cuck is equal to banning you when everyone can still see your argument?
>>80084341
No one is obligated to take your retarded opinion seriously either.
>>80084341
>refusing to engage is functionally the same
no it isn't, your refusal to engage doesn't prevent others from engaging with said person, whereas shadowbanning/banning does. please think harder before you post.
>>80077187
>>80084341
No. It is not functionally the same. It is not the same at all.
Again - do you know what the word "suppression" means?
>>80085165
*before posting next time
>>80085325
Suppress
v. To put an end to forcibly; subdue.
v. To curtail or prohibit the activities of.
v. To keep from being revealed, published, or circulated.
>b-but muh suppression
You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
>>80084932
>>80085005
>>80085165
>>80085325
You're confusing your actions as an individual with the actions of the hivemind echochamber. Of course, your personal decision to engage or not engage an opposing argument doesn't result in suppression, but you are part of the larger organism Anonymous. Anonymous as a culture is completely closed to non-approved ideas.
>b-but not all anons are t-the same!
Fuck off, cultural marxist piece of shit.
>>80086687
hahahaha what the fuck anon
Do you not understand that you are communicating with individuals here? Do you think we're the borg?
>>80084341
And what place would you deem worthy of the honor? And how do they treat people with dissenting opinions on such touchy topics?
>>80087400
You're closer to being part of thre borg than you realize. There are multitudes of memers and roleplayers in your midst. Not the mention the genuinely stupid.
For all the ridicule that the idea of safe spaces receives, there is a shockingly high number of you that has never faced real intellectual opposition.
>>80076846
You'er mentally ill.
>>80077035
sure
>>80089012
Possibly.
Still worried about him. None of these arguments have convinced me.
>>80076846
>It's illegal here to do that
i don't even have an accurate image to express how I feel about this level of kek
>>80089012
for you <3<3<3
>>80076846
See if you can get his parents to blame us. I'm looking to check off that box.
>>80085941
none of those definitions remotely resemble what happens on /pol/
>>80086687
Again, someone's ideas being left to dry on the vine is not a form of suppression. hiding or banning is.
disagreement, or being ignored, is not, no matter how many people do it or how aggressive they are. despite your repeated implications to the contrary, being shouted at and being shouted down are not the same thing. being ignored and being denied a platform with which to share your opinion are not the same thing
>>80076846
I like this pic more. It's actually truthful.
>>80076846
Ya. It is totally our fault your friend is a sperg.
Also, you don't have to be a Nazi to look at the facts. Your friend could get in trouble for saying the truth. And here you are bitching at us. You should be supporting your friend. Trying to get him to quite his power level, and finding others who want to know the truth.
>>80088627
>must be the anamalous entity /pol/ doesn't want my ideas to flourish
>couldn't be that i'm an unlikeable idiot
Didn't want to adhom, but you're not exactly making any argument besides 'wahh they don't like me'.
>>80077780
Holy shit OP got btfo
>>80077300
Then stop being a retard and tell him not to talk about it in public.
Your friend is less of a retard than you are, at least he is self aware and cares about learning.
>>80083972
>It's illegal here to do that
>>80078573
>>80089911
>>80089444
My bad, I meant to respond to the retard claiming people were suppressing opinions by ignoring them.
>>80083972
I mean it's not far off
>>80089855
I never said MY arguments weren't accepted. I happen to be part of the hivemind echochamber. I'm just self aware enough to realize it.
>>80089444
By the nature of how 4chan functions, the way others respond to you is directly tied to how visible your platform is.
This is all pretty basic. I'm not sure why you all are getting so upset. I don't particularly care whatever your opinions are on any particular subject. More power to you.
But if one of those subjects is "political discussion" and your opinion on that subject is "/pol/ is the most open and honest place for political discussion" you should know that your opinion is objectively wrong and your a moron for even entertaining the thought.
Comey is so generous
>>80090323
Not an argument, reddit.
>>80091724
>By the nature of how 4chan functions, the way others respond to you is directly tied to how visible your platform is.
This is true, but only insofar as being more persistent or more skilled at baiting people will result in more replies which results in more visibility.
>"/pol/ is the most open and honest place for political discussion"
as far as large scale political forums are concerned, it absolutely is. unless you'd care to list some other contenders? there's no forum anywhere to my knowledge with anywhere comparable levels of accessibility and relevance that is as open to such a wide range of opinion as /pol/
I'm not saying this is the best place to have a serious discussion, but the problems that exist are not due to any kind of lack of openness or tolerance, just due to lack of suitably intelligent or knowledgeable people to argue with.
>>80091724
It's really rare to see a self aware american. Why is it that your countrymen are so brainwashed?
>>80093150
>that is as open to such a wide range of opinion as /pol/
>Trump
>cuck
>fack sousialismus amirite!?
>kill niggers race war!!
Well, /pol/ opinions are pretty much the opposite ones of "libruls", and are a little contrairian sometimes
>/pol/ does not want a police state and wants personal freedom
>/pol/ defends the cops involved in the clearly wrongfull shotting of those 2 niggers
>just due to lack of suitably intelligent or knowledgeable people to argue with.
And why is that?
>>80083316
>Why after sixty years have historians been unable to com up with a single German document that points to a holocaust?
>Germans used a kind of euphemistic code when discussing their extermination program of the Jews e.g. final solution
what does final solution mean then? redpill me
>>80093150
For sure you could do worse than /pol/. Let's just not drink too much of our own koolaid.
I'm not convinced that "large scale" and "intelligent or knowledgeable" are compatible. Your best bet is probably a *chan spin-off that no one has heard of. Only for a short time though. Assuming you find such a place it will only be a matter of time until it grows too large and the average user is /pol/ levels of retarded, or it shrinks to be the private club of an in-group cliche.
>>80096002
Expulsion of Jews from Europe and into Zion
>>80095866
I won't disagree that there are prevailing opinions among a large portion of vocal users of this board. Nor will I say that people are any smarter here than anywhere else. But /pol/ does not suppress any views from being posted here, and for an open forum like this it's a unique policy. It's this tolerance that attracts Neo-Nazis and the like, which in turn results in warped and incorrect opinion that /pol/ is itself a "Neo-Nazi board" which won't tolerate dissent.
>>80096490
Again. Not saying this is the best place for a good discussion. But for all the accusations you could correctly lay at /pol/'s feet, suppression or lack of openness are categorically not among them.
>>80076846
>mentally ill friend
I wish hitler was here to make it holo-cozey and sterilize/'relocate' that poor soul.
>>80095067
Most people everywhere are brainwashed, tripfriend. I just happen to always be the smartest person in the room so the Jewish propaganda has no effect on me.
>>80097284
Welcome to nu/pol/
>>80076846
1) We use ad hominems ironically.
2) I've never had a problem with being called a stormfag.
3) We support free speech. It's free speech to tell you that your opinion is retarded. We don't go crying for laws against your opinion, though.
4) If someone has valid evidence and can win an argument, then I'll reassess my position.
5) Generalizing much?
6) kek nice meme
This was a pretty autistic meme, Pablo, but you have to go back.
>>80078817
People disagreeing with your post, even in a memetic way, is perfectly fine. In fact your statement is paradoxically hypocritical, if we were to follow your advice to its conclusion.
The main thing that makes /pol/ a bastion of free speech is that you will not be simply banned for having an opposing view. In fact, just look at the catalog, half the threads are blatant b8, trolling, and shitposting of the opposite /pol/ view, and yet they are not bait. Even shitposting the majority view as a troll is not banned.
>>80097046
>But /pol/ does not suppress any views from being posted here
Because they can't. It's the only reason i'm still here. Had the modding been in charge of the community, this would be worse then Reddit.
>>80097284
>Most people everywhere are brainwashed
Yeah, but americans are over the top in that regard.
>I just happen to always be the smartest person in the room so the Jewish propaganda has no effect on me.
;)
>>80097702
Sorry my last two sentences were poorly worded.
>and yet they are not banned. Even shitposting the view in opposition to the majority view as a troll is not banned.
>>80077298
>HAHAHA WHAT A KEK
>fucking libtard
>A LEAF
>poo in loo
>hurr durr the left is mentally deranged. who needs an argument when i can just say that?
>NOT AN ARGUMENT
truly the bastion of free speech, what a time to be alive
>>80097750
>Because they can't.
yeah, because it's in the rules.
in practice /pol/ is tolerant even if there are posters who wish it wasn't so tolerant. you can post whatever you want here, even if you're a communist
>>80076846
Just wanna set something straight here.
If you don't get "triggered" by anything, you probably don't actually care about anything to begin with.
The people who get triggered do so because they are trying to stand for something, some things more worthy than others.
Calling someone out on being triggered just shows you either have nothing more to actually say or that you're just shitposting.
Try to refrain from that if you're taking your own argument seriously.
>>80077298
I feel the same way.
You have to filter the noise, but you're almost guaranteed someone will discuss your post as well.
>It's 2016, how are assault cats still legal?!
>>80097046
The lack of openness is not directly due to policy, but by self censorship inspired by the dominant culture. Likewise, dissent isn't suppressed through executive power, but by the democratic nature of how visibility works on 4chan.
Note that I am not calling for these things to be changed or fixed, just pointing out that they exist as a natural consequence of human nature, 4chan mechanics, and the power of memes.
>it's a leaf
>LEAF
>FUCKING LEAF
>>80098082
hey man I never said the opinions were worth reading. just that they're not subject to any limitations on freedom of expression other than the character limit, the filesize limit, the post cool down timer and the spam filter.
>>80076846
/pol/ is just SJW's now who think they're right wing because they want a free market but support authoritarian(left wing) social aspects.
>>80098265
echo chamber != free speech, no matter how much your underage brain tells you otherwise.
>>80098265
Truly a bastion of free speech.
>>80076846
Silly onepost leaf fag. Go home.
Watch out so that fence you are sitting on doesnt fuck you in the ass
>>80097635
>getting triggered over being generalized
>WE
>WE
You are doing this ironically too right?
This place is an echo chamber for you left hating racist twats. You retards just shut people out with memes.
/pol/ is not that different from a safe space
>>80098673
And that's why you've been forced to stop posting, Nigel.
Oh wait. You haven't. You'll continue to post whatever opinion on whatever topic you choose to whenever you'd like.
>>80098422
anyone is free to express any opinion they want at any time, no matter how shitty or unoriginal or derivative that opinion is. it really is free speech, and no ideas are systematically suppressed here. disagreeing with someone or saying "POO IN LOO" in response to a post does not suppress that message, nor does it make it any less visible.
as I've said earlier, the quality of discussion is often markedly low, but that is in no part due to suppression or lack of openness.
>>80098213
people are discouraged when others disagree with them. they are even more discouraged when they get BTFO with facts or arguments that they are not prepared for. but that's not suppression. this is, at all times, an open market for ideas, regardless of who happens to be speaking or listening at any given time.
>>80098857
>no mods means it is not an echo chamber/safe space
Which part of you dumb human trashes shut people out with memes you don't understand? Unless people are persistent in challenging you faggots, they will just get ignored.
Anyone who glorifies /pol/ is a brainwashed cuck.
>>80076846
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial#James_Keegstra
even if I did beleive you nothing would come of it anyway.
>>80076846
> First they came and took the holocaust deniers, and I did not speak out-
> Because I was not a holocaust denier.
>>80077780
>Unironically proving the original image's point
>>80099478
>Which part of you dumb human trashes shut people out with memes you don't understand?
the part where it actually happens.
in a real-life flesh and blood situation it's possible to physically shout someone down by having a mob of people yell at them so they cannot be heard. alternatively you could deny the person you're trying to suppress access to a platform, microphone, or venue in which to assemble an audience.
in the news media, the owners and managers of each program and network decide who does and does not get to speak on their programs, with very rare intrusions being the only exception. denying opinions you don't like is as simple as not inviting the people who hold them onto your show.
in many online forums (reddit is the best example) users invariably downvote opinions that are too inflammatory or unpopular, which results in them physically being hidden from other users. besides that, plenty of moderators will ban for a wide range of speech that they deem inappropriate for their own communities that are allowed to thrice on /pol/.
If someone doesn't like your post here on /pol/, the worst they can do is to respond to you and call you an asshat, or post some stupid meme. That is not suppression, nor does it deny anyone their ability to express themselves, not by any stretch of the imagination.
Is /pol/ the best forum for politics? No, maybe not. There sure are a lot of retards here and a lot of people spend more time spouting memes than actually discussing anything. But, to my knowledge, no other community can claim to provide its users with access to such open and broad opinions from users of so many different backgrounds, without also censoring and pruning individual opinions, and that's a fact.
