Give me good reasons why non-whites living in white countries should vote for right-wing parties. So far, everything I've seen strongly indicates that it would be voting against your own interests
>>80064064
jews because jews hate muslims
>>80064206
Jews are white and too small a minority to swing a vote. I'm talking about actual visibly non-white people
>>80064064
I see no problem whatsoever as long as they are considered citizens (illegals cannot vote anyway...).
Im talking about the moderate right-wing. For example, a former mexican who is a citizen of the US is actually favored by voting on Trump since he gets less competition.
Now, if you are talking about full blown far-right fascism (Le Pen), ofc they would never vote for it, but thats a completely different ideology.
>I hope she wins in France... the hell with the bosch supremacy
>>80064064
The lefty parties will invite people even worse than you.
you won't continue getting to live in a nice white country if you flood it with even more shitskins
>>80064064
A strong economic system is better for everyone. Socialism is a bad economic system.
>>80064064
because leftists are responsible for keeping minorities in perpetual poverty to keep them as vote slaves to keep the gibmedats flowing
>>80064064
That´s the problem with democracy, it is the perfect devide and conquer system and is destined to turn to shit after a certain amount of time.
lmao at having 5-6 interest groups that conflict with each other and everybody just votes for the party that promises them the most shit.
There is no way you can have a functioning society in the long run that way if you want your people to be happy. At some point, civil war or annihilation will be inevitable.
>>80064064
Not all non-whites are poor.
>>80064064
In America, A Hispanic voting Republican is normal because a lot of us have worked hard and fought for this country too much to feel any pity for illegals coming in and trying to siphon our money. In fact, the right wing party in America has a ton of Hispanic supporters, candidates, governors, and more.
>>80064064
I voted for Hofer twice and im not ethnically austrian. (But still white, so I'm not answering your whole question).
Once you are a citizen you are responsible for the future of your "new" country. So when voting, it shouldnt matter where you came from, or where your parents came from. You should vote in the interest of the whole country
>>80064064
No one should vote for right wingers or lefties, coup the government to install fascism
>>80064064
It's actually in your self interest because the country becoming a third world shithole is bad for you no?
>>80064064
You can be whatever fucking color you are in a white-country as long as you uphold its traditions, history ,Ways and you are an exemplar member of society.
All the chicanos,niggers and mudslimes dont follow these basic rules so they must be purged
>>80064064
Stop immigration, no more competition constantly coming from third world to compete for third world jobs, less supply same demand = get paid better.
>>80065669
you were not, are not and will never be an austrian. Citizenship doesnt make you an austrian
>>80064064
Because the left is destroying our country in the name of sympathy. Do you think our social system can survive thousands of low skilled new citizens? Do you think people who lived in primitive, violent societies can be integrated and respect our values? I don't love the freedom party and believe that members are often incompetent. But when I think about what this country will look like in the future, there is no other choice. It's self defense.
>>80064064
Leftist parties will raise unemployment and tax you to shit that's why.
>>80066018
its funny to hear this from a polish guy.
What would happen if all polish people have to go back their country, wouldnt this also lead to a harder competition on the job market and would cause thousands of people loosing their jobs ?
>>80066085
oh thanks for clearing that up, senpai. its not like i stated that i my post or anything.
should i vote greens next?
>>80066413
vote whatever you want, but just think about what would happen in international relations to austria if HOFER would get president. Austria hosted a lot of international peace talks and what the country in which the nuclear deal with the IRAN was done. AUSTRIA is beside SWITZERLAND the number 1 country for peacetalks. If HOFER gets president this things wont happen anymore, cause israel would boykot austria then. There will be a lot of countries which would break up their diplomatic ties to austria. I want a strong austria which is respected and well represented and not a austria where a guy who is constantly lying, is there as a president.
We don't want brown people in Finland, so to anybody here you're better off trying to destroy us as fast as possible with the voting system. It'll come down to a war anyway.
>>80064064
Blacks were doing just fine before "war on poverty" thing. Read Thomas Sowell.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262726/how-liberal-welfare-state-destroyed-black-america-john-perazzo
>>80066901
The Jews in our country often said that we must close the borders. They know of the dangers of Muslim immigration.
>>80067231
>They know of the dangers of Muslim immigration.
yea they also said if hofer is going to be president there will be no official relations between austria and israel for at least 6 years. Would be great to know that we wont get any information of the Israel intelligences any more. Would be great that the israelis will not buy our weapons anymore and that the ties between this two countries will get loose again.
>>80064064
They'd get a free ticket back to wherever the fuck they're from
>>80064578
>National Front
>full blown far-right fascism
stop this meme. They're not fascists
>>80064064
Think of the main reasons that non-whites emigrated to white countries in the first place.
Then try and see which parties policies keep the nation that way, and which parties policies turn the nation into another third-world shit hole.
>>80066901
>I want a strong austria
>Votes VdB
top kek, what a cuck
Who cares about the jew-peace talks here? Do you benefit from them? Do people come up to you when you are abroad on holiday and say "Oh, you are from that country where the iranian nuclear issue was solved. Thats amazing, here, I'll buy you a drink man"
Those talks are held here because the IAEO and UN are located in Vienna. That shit wont change, no matter who is President. (especially not the UN since the UNO City isnt even austrian territory )
>>80067488
Israel doenst need austrian weapons. They have a huge industry themselves. No one actually gives a shit what ties you have to israel as long as you are loyal to the USA. Look at how turkey used to interact with israel
>>80068106
>this shit dont change
oh yea like it didnt change in the 2000s
also please give me just one argument, real argument, why a mechanical for planes would be a better choice than a guy who is a well known and well respected politician and professor, who teached at elite universities in the USA and GB. What exactly makes HOFER more Qualified for this Job than VdB. What added value has HOFER which would qualifiy him as a president ? What kind of things has he done which had a value for Austria ?
>>80065969
>>80064064
They can meet their families in Mexico and have a nice family reunion.
>>80068660
You asking this question just shows me that you are either not ready to actually change your mind or that you havent informed yourself about the two candidates at all.
You see, him being an engineer or vdb being a professor doesnt really matter. What matters however is what they say and represent. VdB represents the general shift of european politics further and faster into the left.
Current developements like the refugee crisis can't be handeled by a weak green president (who said he would retire the government if they introduced a daily limit for people who can enter).
VdB is more concerned with refugees than with his own population (read : his voters. his voters are literally voting against themselves)
If all neigbouring countries had a right wing government you would tell me that hofer will be respected. these things change with time, so I dont care about international reputation (as long as it is based on ideology) when the candidate has good points.
Would you have voted Hitler back then, because he would be more respected than a, say social democratic or communist leader at the time?
also I find your first response to me even weirder now that i know that you are a leftist
>>80070653
yea for sure he represents the european elite and thats good. I more likely to be represented from a guy who is in this elite and know how the system works and is not against it. If you want to fight against the system you will fail, thats how it was, is and ever will be.
Thats the difference maybe between me and you. I am not scared from refugees because i can legally carry a gun in austria, i can legally defend myself in austria. I am not concerned that i wont get a job one day because of the refugees because i am well educated, also i think its important to have a well respected president who is nothing more than a guy who represents the nation and does not govern it. There wont be a lot of guys with right wing presidents in europe and if, they will not talk with each other, because they are nationalists and do not love their country but hate everything else. Maybe you are voting for Hofer because you are scared and weak and poor and have nothing else than hatred against the others, but for me i think a guy who is within the system which helped us to improve our nation is better than a guy who is within a system which costed us about 25 to 30 billion euros because of stupidity.
Also i am not a leftist. How can you even think of that. I want the best for my country and i also would like to see that there arent so much refugees here and so on, but i know that one guy cant change shit and i better have a guy on the top of our nation who can handle things a little bit than a guy who thinks he can handle everything.
Because left wing parties will use Inmigrants as a tool and treat them like children. That's why you see leftists talking about how "The poor brown man couldn't control himself" or "Trump does not want to let rapist and drug dealers here, how racost against mexicans".
If an inmigrant is grateful he will either:
a) Work to get back to his/her (who am I kidding, it's always a he) country
b) Work hard for his new nation
And not just think about themselves, leftism is the path to destruction, of the egoist victim and the conformist
>>80064064
So that the right wing politicians can close the border, limiting the number of niggers competing for welfare bux and gibsmedats.
>>80071442
I dont have to be scared from refugees to oppose them. Also, as an engineer I wont have problems finding a job either. The difference between us is not education or wealth, but ideals. You are fine with the current system and dont mind keeping it the way it is. (also btw: VdB is neither the elite, nor in the system. He just sucks the EUs and the real Elite's dick and they let him have the presidency in exchange)
Let me say you this: things will only get worse. This vote is not about who will actually be president. It is symbolic. If Austria actually elects a right wing president, the "Elite" and the EU will be forced to change, or at least slow down their processes. Also, I dont consider Hofer a nationalist. Europeans (the actual ones, the ones who want a future for europe) cant afford to not work together at this poin and I am sure even the dumbest village FPÖ-Member knows this.
You are voting for a guy who is supporting genderstudies at universities, gay marriage, antifa and more power to the EU. Thats pretty leftist if you ask me
>>80064064
Give me a good reason why we should allow non whites to live in white countries.
>>80064064
Give me good reasons why non-whites are living in white countries
you can't.
This is what is meant by /pol/ is satire
>>80073454
i am not a leftist, i am a realist. Why should we not allow genderstudies at university, they should do and say whatever they want, but on the other side we should be intelligent enough to know that a lot of things they say is stupid. Why not give the EU more power ? Why not have a united Europe? Since we are in the EU our GIP doubled in 20 years. Since we are in the EU the most things got cheaper and cheaper. Why is HOFER talking about an OEXIT from the EU ? I mean things like this are just stupid. And this is what i think is wrong with HOFER, he is talking about things which he know are not true and are completly false just to give the voters something to rage about. If he would tell the truth all the time i would maybe respect him but i wont respect him as he is lying all the time.
Also if you say VdB is not the elite, you just stated that Hofer was lying all the time, also if you say he is not the system, you are saying the opposite thing like the FPOE did. Thats some things i dont get. If someone has an argument you oppose this argument to state the FPOE or HOFER is better but also completely say the opposite of what the FPOE said. I mean that doesnt get together at some point, dont you think
>>80074513
EU enforces refugee quotas.
What more do you need to know?
>>80074661
>EU enforces refugee quotas
why shouldnt they ? Why should states like austria or germany or sweeden, who pay millions to the poor eu countries take all the refugees. That argument is stupid. Why should we pay billions of euros to poor states to help them if they are not willing to help the rich states if they need help. Where is your argument.
>>80074513
>Why should we not allow genderstudies at university, they should do and say whatever they want, but on the other side we should be intelligent enough to know that a lot of things they say is stupid.
True, but we both know that these studies will eventually lead to these graduated pseudoexperts to later on (when the government is further leftist than it already is now) get hired as "genderexperts" by the government and start forcing their stupid ideas on everyone (teach that there are multiple genders or that genders are social constructs in schools for example) over time this will lead to total degeneracy.
Im not opposing the EU per se. I dont want us to leave it either. I would like it to change in some ways. Giving an Institution that you have not voted full power over you is insanely stupid though. The only thing stopping the EU from passing their retarded (sometimes useless, sometimes outright authoritarian laws) are the membergovernments. (read up on the EUs plans on how to force acceptence of tolerance onto the europeans for example, the pdf is on their website)
What i ment with him not being in the system and elite was the following : He is part of these kinds of social groups. however his power there is insignificant. he is pretty much just a representation of this elite and system. Also, I'm not a fan of the FPÖ, not at all actually. I just believe that voting for VdB this time would send the wrong signals to the rest of european voters and to the actual elite. The signal that the european people still wont be ready for change, even after all of the bad things that have happend to them
>>80076251
and there is the problem. We should difference a lot more in every discussion. A lot of people call me a leftist but are surprised that i think that in Austria or germany it should be not a problem that crosses are hanging in classrooms or Courts. Its our tradition and if a muslim feels not comfortable with it he can go somewhere else.
Also, as i can read out of your formlulation, is that you want more direct democracy in the EU and more institutions which are voted directly from the people. But if we look at swiss, where we have the most direct democracy, we see, that, however they vote, the government will always be the same. The EU is not perfect, i never said that, but calling the EU a dictatorship and blaming the EU for every failure is wrong cause the EU cant decide anything without the EU Memberstates and their politicians who have been voted by their people.
I think that the System should also change but it should be slow change and a permanent change and not a rapid change, because rapid changes always come out in a bad way, everywhere allways. And maybe i also have other opinions about "bad things" as i traveled to countries which are in a really bad condition as Pakistan, Jemen, Iraq, a few Balkan states, Georgia, Armenia and so on. Maybe this is the reason i know that its really fine to live in austria after all and i cant vote someone who is talking bad about our country all the time and say everything is fucked up like Hofer does. He is simply talking bad about our great country and thats something i dont really like.
>>80077219
>But if we look at swiss, where we have the most direct democracy, we see, that, however they vote, the government will always be the same.
Conclusion : They dont have direct democracy.
People in North korea vote too. But it doenst matter what they vote. This is why we, rightfully, call them undemocratic.
When I say I want direct democracy I dont mean that I just want to get cast a vote into the box, I want the vote to actually do something.
>He is simply talking bad about our great country and thats something i dont really like.
Well, maybe because he sees the potetial this country has and how it is slowly being destroyed more and more every day.
We all know how great this country is, especially compared to other countries
>>80078207
there is a proporz system in switzerland. They vote different but their government is always the same. Look it up, maybe u will understand then.
But what can you do as an induvidual. You can go and sign up for a party, you can go and sign up for the FPOE and tell them what you want to change and maybe they listend, you can do everything but you have to do something before you have the chance to change something. U want more power but no responsibility and this doesnt fit together.
Everything has been getting better in the last 10 to 15 years. I dont see what kind of things are getting worse. We get more money than 10 years ago we can buy more things than 10 years ago. What do you mean with its getting worse ?
>>80064064
There's no good reason for non-Whites being in White countries.
>>80064064
I like her tattoo.
>>80079149
>We get more money than 10 years ago we can buy more things than 10 years ago.
Is that all your life is made up of? Working and consuming? There is more out there.
Just look at the demographics. In the next 10-15 years your Tradition will be gone in the cities. The majorities will be gone.
Have you been to Vienna? If nothing changes you will be a minority in your own country soon. Thats a fact, you cant hide from it. Thousands of years of european tradition and heritage will be lost because people who think like you.
>>80064064
The ones that are here should vote for the right wing, so the ones that the left is letting in don't ruin their reputation.
Serbs & polish act pretty much like that in austria.
>>80064064
>>80080559
>That pic
Hoo boy Europe is about to be culturally enriched.
>>80081006
I kinda feel sad for the countries that have to deal with them, because like 90% of them are men.
Imagine the competition....what a complete garbage!
According to Wikipedia:
UKIP Right Wing
FPO Right wing to Far right
French National Front Right wing to Far right
Golden Dawn Far Right
There are some based old Turks and such here whovote for Wilders because they actually came here to work back in the day and they're like 'fuck those lazy new kids looking for a handout ruining our reputation'.
>>80064064
Not sure what you're arguing, is your implication that non-whites cannot comprehend that things which are better for the state as a whole are better for them than things promised directly to them?
I'm non-white mixed. Why would I want socialism to push mediocrity, single motherhood and overall low IQ people to breed more and sit on welfare? Why would I want freedom, separation of church and state and the values of Western civilization to perish? If I wanted that, I wouldn't be living in a western country.
>>80079953
So what kind of traditions do you mean ? Really what do you mean with traditions ? Most of the own people dont have tradition anymore. The most people dont go to church anymore, they dont even know why there is a free day and whats the meaning of christi himmelfahrt or karfreitag or things like that. That has nothing to do with people comming here, thats the reason everyone wants to have the best things and the best stuff. Who is telling us we cant keep up our traditions, no one. The people are not intrested into traditions anymore thats the real fact.
>>80064064
there are none thats why liberals and democrats like to bring in migrants so they have more leftist voters duhh
>>80064064
How can you expect to have a chance in life if all your neighbours are mugambas
