government: 73
opposition: 66
seats in doubt:5
Hindmarsh 1.9% ALP
Forde 4.1% ALP
Cowan 5% ALP
Capricornia 1.3% ALP
Flynn 7.3% ALP
Herbert 6.6% ALP
independent seats:
denison: Andrew Wilkie
Indi: Cathy McGowan
Kennedy: Bob Katter
Mayo: Rebekha Sharkie (team xenophon)
Melbourne: Abam Bandt (greens)
trend has been a moderate swing to labour
however last minuit postal votes tend to favour the coalition
this is glorious. TPP is almost certainly dead in the water. It won't even pass the House let alone get to the Senate
According to the ABC website, Labor is ahead by 8 votes in Hindmarsh. The Liberals have been slowly gaining on them, so we could see it a Lib victory here. It's almost over!
my take
the government could still get their magic 76 for a majority government, that would make things fairly simple, however members would be pressured to cross the floor on local issues through the year
if they got 75, katter and mcgowie would probably form government with them because it would give them disproportionate power as indipendants
they would have to form together to block government bills (which would make them less than popular in all likelihood)
if the government only got one more seat?
holy shit it would be a circus, the government would probably try because a re-poll would almost guarantee them an election loss as the swing was labour and fine margins of government will probably hurt the governments "stick with the current mob" approach
and that's where things get really interesting, if a minority government falls apart mid term, who would win in a re-vote (vs. a re-vote straight away)
>>80019000
Even if the Coalition get 76 though, won't they still need to do a deal with Katter because once they put one of their own up as speaker, they will be back at 75?
There's no way in hell any independent would accept being speaker. They'd be laughed out of town by their electorate as a sellout the next time they ran for re-election
>>80019378
Yep. No way in hell an independent is going to be speaker.
>>80019000
Postal votes tend to be liberal due to demographics
I'm cautiously optimistic
in un-related news
greyhound racing just got banned in NSW
>>80019853
Yeah, which seems to be how the Liberals have clawed back a lot of ground gained by Labor.
Reckon we'll have a final lower house result by the end of the day?
>>80019378
interesting point
the chair gets to vote in the event of a tie
really this wouldn't mean much except a minor procedural delay
however what if they voted in a labout minister as the chair??
that would mean that there is no tie in the first vote, and I don't think the tie-breaking vote could be used to cause a draw
could a labour candidate simply refuse to accept the chair?
anyhow it would be seen broadly as an abuse of process by most educated voters and it's doubtful it would be a clever play
>>80020252
AEC are lazy cunts so who knows. I think it will be unofficially confirmed. With the media announcing it
But there will be a lot more counting for an official result with it being this close
>>80019537
not sure why you say that
the chair's indipendant nature could lend it'self well to an indipendant, slipper even resigned from the liberals to be more neutral
wilkie might take it
>>80020544
The electorate will feel cheated if their member becomes speaker. If I live in a Liberal seat, and my member becomes speaker, it's no big deal because he is part of a larger party.
If an independent becomes speaker, the issues they campaigned on become irrelevant.
>>80020383
>however what if they voted in a labout minister as the chair??
not going to happen
pigs will freeze over and hell will fly before that happens
>could a labour candidate simply refuse to accept the chair?
yes, absolutely
>anyhow it would be seen broadly as an abuse of process by most educated voters and it's doubtful it would be a clever play
irrelevant. One way or another, Turnbull has to make a deal with atleast one and possibly all three of Katter/McGowan/Xenophon. he knows this and that's why he is in QLD to talk to Katter today.
Katter is a lock but is no shill and will hold the government by the balls (which is why TPP is dead). McGowan and Xenophon and much more unknown quantities. McGowan may outright refuse to negotiate any deal and seeing what happened to Windsor and Oakeshott (slightly different because they backed the ALP, but still).
Wilkie will not deal with either party, period, after being burned in 2010
Greens are a lock for Labor
>>80020754
Xenophon said he wouldn't deal too didn't he?
So it will be Katter and maybe McGowan
Labor are looking like they would need all of the greens/indepenents and I don't see them dealing with Katter
Or Willkie for aforementioned reasons
>>80020752
you are probably right
>>80020754
pigs will freeze over and hell will fly before that happens
it would go down in history as one of the dirtiest plays in government history
would they do it normally?
not a chance, HOWEVER; what if they used it to protect themselves from someone crossing the floor, or one indipendant not towing the line
greens labour, katter liberals for sure
xenophon campaigned as being a thrid pillar, if he sided either way he would be seen as a sell out, however he might get major legislation through for his electorate (or might be critisized for passing up the chance)
>>80021287
Xenophon said he was open to a deal with either side and he would negotiate first with whoever won the most seats
>>80021287
>Xenophon said he wouldn't deal too didn't he?
no, he said he'd talk to either party
McGowan is the one who said she would do no deals
The way the postal votes are trending, Forde and Hindmarsh are looking like they'll be Liberal seats. I reckon it'll be 75-70-5, with the Xenophon candidate and Katter in a loose confidence/supply agreement. No idea what will happen with the speaker situation tho
>Work as a security guard
>Finish shift at 7am on election day
>Decide to go straight to polling station and wait because I can't be bothered stopping by home.
>Standing out the front wating in my uniform
>Some bitch with a greens poster comes up and asks me if she can hang her shit up on the fence
>Takes a second for me to realize why she was talking to me
>Tell her we can't let any more posters up
>She starts getting shitty
>I tell her to call Bruce if she's got a problem
>"Bruce?"
>"Yeah you know, Bruce"
>"....what's his number?"
>"Can't give that out sorry, you should know him"
>Gets shitty and leaves
>Some dude with a labor picket comes up next, plants it next to a liberal picket that's already there
>"Hey mate, can't put that there, you can't block the other signs"
>"Where am I supposed to put it?"
>I point over to a patch of grass furthest away from the main building
>"You can't be serious"
>"Hey I don't make the rules"
>People with pamphlets start arriving as we get closer to 8
>None of them approach me with their bullshit because they all think I'm security
>8 am comes along
>get the greasiest fucking looks when I line up to vote.
>>80021830
>>80021422
Fugg sorry
>>80019296
Good summation. Whatever government is formed I think we all agree it'll be skating on thin ice. I'm expecting another poll and more changes of leaders, from both sides within the next 12 months.
And thanks for the up to date count OP.
Difficult to get a handle on the Australian election from over here. Our media is using only two angles, either;
> Australia turning into S America, economy tanking, creating political instability, leading to even worsening economic outlook. Come back home kiwis, its not 1990 anymore, NZ stronk!
> or Pauline Hanson waaaaaaaaahhhhhh! Aussies are so raaaaycist. Let's all feel morally superior about ourselves.
While I agree with the first point, but the Hanson attacking just shits me.
>>80022535
there is a reall issue I see here with turnbul being undeclred in many areas
he's in the kevin rudd position being more liberal than his party, the abbot faction is still lurking, and if shorten goes then he cold face a fierce attack by an incoming labor leader
his "no promises" campaign will likely see him being called a liar a lot less than other PM's in recent memory
however he might rudely surprise some center right liberal voters, because he will find it hard to stay out of issues of race, immigration, religion and union activity
>>80022535
if it makes you feel any better the Australian media doesn't report on New Zealand at all
holy fuck has anyone been watching the senate
they recon the government will have to deal with 9 crossbenchers
and they are even more retarded than last years
>>80022397
Doing gods work mate.
>>80022397
'Onya mate
>>80022535
>lefties alternate between moral superiority over those racist foreigners and self flagellation over how racist we are in comparison to harmonious nations overseas
http://www.corybernardi.com/blog
Bernardi is redpilled AF about leftism and the media
>>80024702
I don't mind him to be honest
Katter just said he's going to support Turnbull
>>80020544
If Willie takes it, it would be glorious
>>80023582
>4+ one nation seats
I'm so erect
Just turned on news 24 and Katter is talking about armed jews.
What the fuck am I watching?
Is everyone watching Katter talking about the ongoing Jewish holocaust and how it must end?
>>80025469
Um, aren't the Jews doing their own holocaust currently?
>>80023582
>Being able to get One Nation, Hinch, Lambie, Xenophon and the Greens to agree on ANYTHING
Kek, what a zoo. We're definitely headed to another double dissolution within three years.
>>80022397
absolute legend
>>80025804
Hello USA
Katter loves the unions and his mates in the ALP. This just cucks the Turnbull government even more
>>80025931
Or it shows how far Moderate Malcolm has moved the party
>>80025931
Not if the Coalition gets to 76 or 77 seats. They've already flipped Forde and could still hold Hindmarsh, Herbert and Flynn, which would be enough to give them a working majority.
>>80025462
He was making a case for less muslim immigration.
> Jews go to school in australia with armed guards that tells you there's something wrong with islamic intolerance
>>80026092
You're right, but it still makes the Coalition look desperate
It's looking like a slim coalition majority mates.
I'm more interested in the senate now.
Don't know why Coalition would want to form Government
It'll be the worst senate in decades and likely the worst economic conditions since the early 90's
Their jobs, growth and stability mottos are going to get thrown to the dirt
Next election expect to see 90 Labor seats
>>80026623
for the money
Serious question: has there been a less workable senate in history? Seems impossible getting 9/10 One Nation/Xenophon/Lambie/Hinch votes if the Labor/Greens oppose
katter holds the balance of power
>>80026623
>worst senate in decades
Nah the senate will have a path for sensible reform.
Right-wing plus centrists (Lambie, Hinch, NXT) will have a majority.
Liberals won't get their more ideological bullshit through, but it will probably good for them to have to accept that they can't.
>>80026623
>Everything goes to shit
>WE NEED TO SAVE THE ECONOMY
>Privatise everything to SAVE THE ECONOMY
Now is the perfect time to be a coalition government.
>>80026897
I can't say about all history but it's getting weirder and weirder every year
In my humble opinion it's a result of a lack of diversity in he senate, which might sound a bit odd
the thing is with so few parties outside the big two, none of hte minor parties have broad policy platforms and man are "single issue" parties
so if you HATE labour and the liberals, and you HAVE to vote; you end up voting for some underfunded brainless minor party
>>80027402
>car costs too much to run
>sell the wheels then rent them off the guy we sold them too
>car still costs too much
>sell the car, hire a taxi
>taxi's cost too much
>you should have been wealthy
Redpill me on why privatising Medicare is a good idea, /pol/.
>>80026897
>Fred Nile gets the final NSW seat
>will withhold any support unless an internet filter gets put on
Game over, folks.
Will the LNP take my NEETbux away if they win majority government?
>>80027878
Because you can buy shares in private health companies.
Everytime someone breaks their arm playing sports on the weekend, you get a cut of their $12,000 bill.
>>80022397
10/10 story
>>80028035
They will try.
The senate will probably stop them though.
>>80028041
If you read the rules when getting health insurance that eliminates most problems it far cheaper than you think. Cheap private health care for all and privatise medicare is the way.
>>80027959
Bob Day (Family First leader) might get his seat back too, who would probably support the notion of an Internet filter. Hold on to your butts
>>80027959
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-09-02/fred-nile-denies-perving-at-internet-porn/2245848
>>80026591
The senate will be much like the senate after last election stalled. But Im keen to see who will be first to make a bill to deport muslims and close mosques.
>>80027878
You can't privatise medicare m8, that's not how single payer healthcare systems work. They rely on the coercive arm of the state.
Stop falling for memes.
>>80028343
Medicare won't be privatised it's a money sink, no company could make money off it. Medicare would either have to be drastically scaled down or abolished entirely.
>>80027878
there are two arguments for it as far as I understand
A. public health isn't worth investing in, privatization is essentially de-funding
B. privatization provides incentive for cost saving, more than the cut the private company receives
if it were privatized it wouldn't be medicare, just a network of private medical facilities.
what makes it medicare is that its all subsidized
so it would really just be "sold off"
there have been disasters in the past with privatization *cough* *telstra* *cough*
the issues are manifold, would the newly privatised buisiness have a monopoly they would exploit to provide poor valule
and most hospital procedures arn't profitable, why would the hospital fund preventative testing, or help anyone poor at all?
if the government payed the un-profitable parts, there would be no cost saving at all for obvious reasons
>BOB KATTER HAS AGREED TO CONFIDENCE AND SUPPLY
SAY IT WITH ME
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE ROBERT KATTER
>>80028768
>SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE
He would have no interest in that at all.
>>80028768
Nah he's said he'd spit on any offer to become speaker
>>80028941
>>80028927
mark my words
katter will step up to the speakership and become the biggest hardass the house has ever seen
martial law on the floor
>>80028768
doesnt the speaker lose his vote
>>80028768
It would be based but he wouldn't take it
>>80028041
The biggest insurer is not publicly listed.
>>80028768
i would watch every single session of parliament if that was the case
>>80028681
Privatising it obviously means the business would change for profit
>>80028768
there is no need/reason to mke him speaker, nd it would rob him of his hard earned vote
>they've only counted an extra 0.3% of the vote since yesterday
>>80029346
blame auspost, not the AEC
and they are re-conting and re-counting
>>80029346
It's time we have electronic open source voting machines (and get rid of postal votes)
>>80029089
>Speaker Katter has fired a warning shot at an unruly MP for the 239th time this year
>>80029089
>Speaker Katter has ejected Senator Hanson-Young for the 4th time this year for being an "Absolutely Un-Australian Galah"
My body is ready
>>80028681
yep Fair enough!
>>80028927
>>80028768
Wouldn't the leftie elites in the media go fucking screeching like no tomorrow if he was speaker. they'd be hysterical.
>>80029512
just get rid of postal votes, fuck those robots off
>>80018346
>ABC STATUS [X] BTFO
>LABOR STATUS [X] BTFO
>GREEN STATUS [X] BTFO
>HOMO STATUS [X] NO HOMO
>NBN STATUS [X] TRASHED
reminder to suck it you delusional left wing shits, i told you so..
>mike "not bad" baird bans greyhound racing in nsw
How can one man be so based
>>80030900
bit strong for a party that is only going to holding government by two seats at most
>>80031327
Baird is a corrupt corporatist shill.
Banning greyhound racing is great though.
>>80031529
still better than another labor catastrophe
>>80018346
If libs stay under 75 will I get muh nbn? No construction has started and I'm in fucking Sydney
>>80031771
You aren't getting it either way.
>>80030900
>Celebrating your party just avoiding being the first one-term government since 1931.
>>80018614
What the fuck are you talking about you mongoloid cunt?
LABOR and LIBS both support it. It will pass through the house with 145 votes, and through the senate with 70.
It's a done deal.
>>80019378
Deal done.
>>80031564
yeah true
But after labor doing fuckall and cutting deals with corps (i.e. m2) it's nice to have someone actually working on building roads and such
I just hope that he doesn't get cunted by young degenerates mad about lockout laws
>>80031564
>Banning greyhound racing is great though
Why?
>>80031816
>voting labor who are backed by the greens and supporting corrupt unions
they should bring in a law to deport all you unaustralian cunts to somalia before you can do anymore damage.
>>80031771
Where are you?
I'm in seven hills (on hols) and I've got nbn
I think a lot of inner west stuff + economic centres like parramatta are getting it first
>>80032095
Because the industry has proven time and time again that it treats the animals like shit, and greyhounds deserve better.
>>80032095
>corrupt industry that executes tens of thousands of top-tier doggos just because they're not fast enough
that's why
>>80031940
If that's the case, then we need to at least wait until the US ratifies it before we do it ourselves.
>>80032246
>greyhounds deserve better
Well now they won't even be born at all since there is no point without the racing industry.
>>80027650
That's a shit example. Maybe if the government taxed businesses and rich people and gave everyone a white shitbox car with no AC or power anything and it was costing us $50000 per car.
The Greens fearmonger about climate change
>this is fine because scientists say it's true
Well how about the bountiful proof that Islam causes terrorism and crime?
>oh no that's bad because it's racist, ignore it
Why are Lefties so dishonest?
>>80032888
So it's better for them to be constantly bred and maybe 1/10 living past the age of 3, the others dying, than for them to simply not be born?
Greyhounds will still be bred. Some farmers have big rabbit problems
>>80032888
That's fine, no life at all is better than the lives they had.
Not much of a life living in a cage in between training then being put down when they don't show enough promise.
>>80033038
Could this hung parliament actually be a bit of a good thing?
The way the polling is looking now, one nation will have considerable power and sway, sure it could hamper a fair bit of stuff but it'd also mean that right-wing politics actually gets put on the map
>>80032197
I'm in chatswood (50% asian, very rich, safe liberal). I think it's not important enough for labor to waste effort getting a better nbn through the Senate and house. If labor + independents got FTTP through it would probably only fucking be in labor,greens and independent electorates...
>>80033572
>Could this hung parliament actually be a bit of a good thing?
Undeniably. A Hung parliament means neither party can fuck anything up because they can't DO anything.
Is any one else worried that major parties will work together to neuter Hanson in the Senate? Libs don't want to be seen cooperating with them because the media will crucify them for racism.
>>80033714
>they can't DO anything
They can do the little pet projects of the crossbenchers though.
These can be weird or dangerous.
In SA there was a crossbencher in a hung parliament who made the government spend millions of dollars trying to eradicate the BROOM RAPE weed.
>>80033642
>chatty
fuck m8, I know your pain
Used to live in hornsby, quickly becoming the next chatswood/eastwood
Are you a gook btw
>>80033914
Nobody will blame the libs for cooperating with pauline considering it's a hung parliament
Well, nobody except for leftie shitcunts that don't matter (pedestrian.tv, buzzfeedaus)
>>80033914
>>80034379
Howard government worked with Len Harris (last One Nation Senator). It didn't cause them any grief.
>>80022397
1488/10 top work cunt
>>80026897
I'm looking forward to Pauline dropping all sorts of angry truth bombs in the senate.
>Liberals have to accept help from a fucking Australian Stalin to get Government.
Fucking lol. How do the Liberals plan on passing any fucking policy? Katter is more fiscally left wing than the Greens.
I hope you guys keep the election in limbo. The S&P threat of downgrade is already making me money on AUD short an actual downgrade would make me boatloads of money. Thanks cunts.
>>80035019
>Vaccinnes cause autsim
>NBN should be canned for Wifi
>Halal funds terrorism despite every halal slaughterhouse in Australia is run by white Australians.
Yeah, such truthbombs
>Alt-right in charge of not being retarded
>Even once.
>>80031940
>TPP has significant potential benefits for Australia
So, why is it '''''''''''good''''''''''' for us, whereas in America, Trump see's it as evil?
https://youtu.be/Dm66nBqkA38
>>80034024
Derryn Hinch is the most dangerous. Populist with no beliefs but muh pedos. He could easily be tricked into supporting a ban on encryption, which the government has always wanted.
Also, he's the biggest threat to One Nation because he appeals to the bogan market and they see him as a top bloke for stopping pedos. If he comes out vocally against Pauline it will hurt much more than the Greens and the One Nation base could start leaking towards him instead - he already took the probable One nation senate seat in Victoria.
Derryn needs to be binned ASAP.
>>80035287
Hinch is old and sick. I doubt he'll live to see out his full term.
He is already on his second liver.
>>80024702
This guy is based as fuck.
>>80035217
Because Trump isn't being paid to say it's good
>>80035217
It's not good for anyone. That is taken from Bill Shorten's website.
>http://www.billshorten.com.au/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement
The guy is basically Extremely Careless Hillary with a small feminine penis.
I would trust an ISIS member with a bomb in a room full of Jewish homosexuals before I would trust anything he says.
Does Bernardi make a cuck of himself for Israel?
And does he want to stop the nation being sold to the chinks?
>>80035207
I was thinking more of the entertainment value, and since she seems to have ruffled your left wing feathers she's off to a flying start.
>>80031940
Because if its a minority government (likely), and they are only in government because the proto-commie Katter and Nick Xenophon have given them confidence, then when they bring TPP up, all Katter and Xenophon (who would Sudoku before supporting TPP) have to threaten to do is remove confidence and they are no longer the government and the GG dissolves the parliament
>>80035287
>He could easily be tricked into supporting a ban on encryption
Paedophiles use encryption to hide their filthy porn collection.
It's as good as banned, mate.
>>80031940
>Improving market access to our goods and services
>Coal and iron
>>80035514
>Derryn Hinch is the only Senator controlling the balance of power
>>80032845
and Trump will never sign off on the TPP
>>80035514
How convenient. I almost suspect he was put there by the government to pass these nebulous laws.
>you can't hate a man of the people like Hinch!
>>80035685
Hillary is literally above the law
theres no way trump is winning m8
>>80035207
>NBN should be canned for Wifi
Did she say this as well?
On election day I thought it'd be a bit of fun having her back, but hearing all the shit she's said since then.... ugh.
I only recalled her being a racist, not a complete fucking mong.
>>80035757
>>80035685
Even $hillary has distanced herself from TPP
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/13/hillary-clinton-trans-pacific-partnership-debate
whole thing might be dead anyway
>>80035437
>Does Bernardi make a cuck of himself for Israel?
Are you that one retard who bases their entire political beliefs on whether a party supports Israel?
Just vote Greens if you want BDS autism. Then you can turn Australia into Palestine.
>>80035963
>Are you that one retard who bases their entire political beliefs on whether a party supports Israel?
I am not that one anything. But I feel that anyone who has strong opinions on Israel one way or another is fucked beyond repair.
The correct position is to not give a shit one way or another since they are all foreigners and have nothing to do with Australia.
>>80035287
Pauline is going to mop the floor with Hinch, she basically called him a cuck on live television
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3y1JtWgDs
Hinch is a classic boomer, all bravado but the moment you reveal what they are they cower and fluster as they try to defend themselves
>>80036087
>The correct position is to not give a shit one way or another since they are all foreigners and have nothing to do with Australia.
T H I S
H
I
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Redpill me on a serivce economy.
Lots of lawyers, phone operaters, tradies, shit like that.
What does it mean for us though and what about the stupid people?
Are they just supposed to get on the dole?
Is it all about keeping power in the government beause people are largely reliant on what it says?
Is it about removing a lot of the capitalism, preventing people from being involved in the process of raw matieral into finished product?
What does it mean?
>>80035810
20 sheckles says as soon as the elections over her stance changes
>>80036214
>Lots of lawyers, phone operaters, tradies, shit like that.
It's a fucking meme
Unemployed lawyers (and other grads) loaded with HECS debt is one of the biggest burdens on the welfare state
>>80036319
Yeah I know what but what's the merit of a service economy?
Are we supposed to be the brains for the shitty asian countries?
>>80036144
this should be our foreign policy
>>80036218
trump pointed it out that she would have a couple of sentences superficially changed and then ratify the whole thing
>>80036108
>literally my son's wife
>>80036453
Our foreign policy is "Suck up to the Americans and hope they'll be there for us if needed because our people are so fucking retarded that they refuse to upgrade our small military"
Our government gave money to the clinton foundation
>>80031940
selling out australia to the fucking chinese even when they are raping our farming land already. if only trump is elected
>>80036214
services are the largest part of any economy, even in shitholes and australia still has mining and farming which are not 'service' sector
stupid people can use manual labour to earn money (providing a service) or even stand around holding a fucking stop sign
it has zero to do with your retarded conspiracy theories
>>80036806
>1 post by this ID
>>80036912
you wanted info and I gave it to you, in a perfect world australia would have a strong manufacturing sector but being so close to huge countries full of uneducated muppets we don't really have a chance outside of extremely high tech products which we get pushed out of by other 1st world economies which much greater research funding
>>80035509
That's not how it works. Every piece of legislation isn't a confidence motion.
The government will just pass the legislation with Labor and it will become law.
If the independents want to bring a no-confidence motion in the parliament after that, then it still needs a certain amount of support to actually go to a vote.
But for what gain? If there was a new election, the independents (excluding Katter) will be the ones most at risk of losing their seats.
The TPP will pass because both major parties are fucked in the head.
>>80037253
Agreed, this is why we need economic protectionism, increases manufacturing in aus and creates glorious JOBS & GROWTH
>>80037469
You're assuming Labor votes for it
yes I'm fully aware That the ALP and L/NP usually vote together on trade deals, but given how tense the next three years are likely to be, it wouldn't even be surprising if the ALP shifted to the left and blocked TPP out of political partisanship if nothing else.
TPP may well still pass. But to imply it is a 'done deal' as you are implying is clearly wrong. There are still so many moving parts (both here and overseas) that could easily derail it
>>80037253
You didn't give info. People are going to do manual labour, doing what? Where is the meat/potato in this model? What labour? What service? So you're saying a factory machine operater is a service worker because he provides a service to the factory owner? That's retarded, you obviously don't understand the question. Australia was producing more goods than Germany in 1914 by the way.
With an industrial economy it's easy to see how it works from start to finish and the industries throughout, there is plenty to do.
Where is the bulk of the employment in this service society? Overseas, do we provide them with the services? What about the stupid people in our society? Do you service your dad?
>>80037469
TPP is already passed we just need to ratify it
>>80019000
libs are ahead in forde too
>there is only 1 party that doesn't support increase gibmedats for abos.
Katter is going to be king maker and he wants increased $$ for abos. It's in his fucking policy intiatives. fuck this.
>>80029512
As someone who's worked in IT for over a decade. I'll never support a move to electronic voting machines. Open source or not.
Shit boys not even White Australia Adelaide the city of Churches is safe from the Muslim menace
>>80038307
>>there is only 1 party that doesn't support increase gibmedats for abos.
which one?
Pauline?
>>80038687
Yep. and some liberal members but mainly ON
>>80035257
Blast from the past.
>>80024702
Not too shabby, sign me up.
>>80031940
Its ok Trump will save us from our stupidity
>>80038409
"a dark complexion"
This tells us nothing. Was it an abo, a curry, an ape-frican?
>>80038409
Sounds like an abo to me.
>>80038687
the term "one nation" refers to the policy position of no special treatment for indigenous Australia.
>>80038409
We have a lot of churches, but that's not to say that they get used. We are one of the least religious major cities in Australia.
>>80039279
>no special treatment for indigenous Australia
Or anyone else.
>>80039599
yes, they are anti-racists
>>80038409
>>80039460
City of churches refers to the historic diversity of churches, not the amount.
Lads The Greens were actually decent under Bob Brown, all he cares about was saving the environment and reducing negative stigma around faggots. If I were able to vote while he was leader, I was consider actually casting my vote for him.
Yet I could not despise the current Greens more, they are essentially neo-marxists that pander to emotion on nearly all of their key issues. Is this why Brown left? Because he saw how the tide was turning?
>>80040422
>Bob Brown
Wanted to flood the country with boat people m8.
>>80040422
Wasn't he a member of the Australian Communist Party?
>>80041337
Don't think so m8. Bob Brown came up through the Environmental movement in Tasmania where he was working as a doctor.
The Brown family were famous NSW communists (including Lee "Rhiannon" - a fake name) but they are no relation to Bob Brown.
Working in the fish and chip shop kept Pauline /fit/
>>80041670
>two hands for a half full basket
Weak cunt
>>80041802
>a half full basket
That's a good feed of chips m8. Probably minimum chips back then.
These days you have to pay $6.00 for a thimble full.
>>80041280
Let them do it, seriously let them end their defective bloodlines
It's unfortunate that the kid will have a life of suffering but let them fucking do it
>>80041802
Nigger, its good practice to not being using 1 hand to hold a basket, fucked up wrists are way too common in the food industry. i spent 4years in college as a linecook, and now my dominant right hand wrist is so beyond fucked, i resort to using my lefty to wax my pole>>80041802
>>80041942
>It's unfortunate that the kid
It breaks my heart m8.
Seriously, nothing triggers me worse than what these cunts do to poor little kids with his gender bullshit.
>>80041942
Nah m8. They're kids, it's a phase, they'll very likely regret it.
I know it's just a first-hand experience but I know a guy who was like that, was entirely ready to become a trap when he was 15.
Swung round the other way the next year and is now a normal fit and masculine guy, believes that you should be min. 21 to access hormones
>>80042048
That might have something to do with you being limp-wristed faggot pole.
>>80042048
oi m8 are you also /aus on hols/
>>80018614
Nah. TPP is set by the Jadah puppet masters. It's a done deal.
Leaves Australia pretty much fucked. The idea is that we have something valuable to export and in exchange we get deals on valuable imports. What does Australia actually export?
Iron and Coal. That's it. Both have rock bottomed on price. We are getting buttfucked with no lube.
You know that "Australia Tax" that foreign companies like to charge us on fucking everything? Yeah, that is getting a raise in multiples.
>>80028755
>lets be like america
rofl, kill yourself, retard.
>>80038409
>pooraka
>round face/cheeks
>black wavy hair
it was an abo, kek
>>80042188
Oi fuck off m8, thoroughly enjoying myself here
Haven't seen a single somali or paki like back at home
>>80027074
Katter is a Jim Henson creation made from pure meme magic.
>>80033038
>The Greens fearmonger about climate change
>>this is fine because scientists say it's true
>i didnt even finish primary school
Have the greens officially lost their title as the alternative/protest vote
Seems like people are choosing to throw away their votes to the meme parties
>>80042789
hope so, people certainly don't think of them as a purely environmental vote anymore
What's up with One Nation? I see people saying they will get two or three seats in the senate, but looking at the news sites, they are only in line for one?
>>80042886
If only they were, I'd probably vote for them if it wasn't for all the ridiculous SJW and socialist nonsense
getting rid of negative gearing, NBN, looking after muh environment and I believe they were trying to stop multinationals and foreigners from buying up all our shit, what wouldn't be to like
>>80042984
One of their seats (Pauline's in Qld) is a definite win. Two others (NSW and WA) will depend on preferences and could go either way. We won't know for a couple of weeks.
>>80043005
>I believe they were trying to stop multinationals and foreigners from buying up all our shit, what wouldn't be to like
i didn't know that, i think that's actually one of the biggest problems out there that nobody talks about. there's empty houses and apartments in every city because of it
>>80042984
haven't been paying a lot of attention if they only get one i'm going to spraypaint dicks all over the opera house
>>80042984
Counting senate votes is a shit show but One Nation will probably win one more senate seat, possibly two. Sorting out the preference flow must be an absolute nightmare.
>>80042886
This, did an intern at a big 4 bank. Economist i sat next to presented too and had lunch with Di natle and the board/executives.
He said once you get past the 'greens stigma' a lot of their policies are actually really logical and Di Natle is really good at explaining and debating them.
However, he started banging on about transgender-ism and 1/2 the lunch started checking their emails.
Is it true you guys are bracing for an indonesian invasion?
my indo friend keeps on telling me that aussies keep on getting paranoid over it for no reason
>>80043274
>Biggest muslim nation in the world
>getting paranoid over it for no reason
Pick one ketut
>>80018346
the way this is turnng out maybe they should count all the votes in every election
>>80018346
katter is with the libs they only need 75 to form government right?
>>80043380
as far as I've seen, their war crimes have been for executing commies and liberals if that makes you feel better
>>80043399
Someone still has to be Speaker but speaker can vote on a no confidence motion if its tied. Not sure about supply bills.
>the ABC is left wing
meanwhile 25% of enrolled voters, most of whom are probably poor cunts who should be voting Labor, don't even bother to turn up
>>80043274
Not that I've heard of, but who the fuck knows. Aren't you guys bracing yourselves for a Muslim/EU/Russian/Chinese/Japanese/German/Jewish/Mexican invasion?
>>80042259
We export a lot more than iron and coal. Uranium, gold, zinc, diamonds, aluminium, copper, nickel, natural gas, eventually shale oil and fucking sick cunt opals cunt.
>>80043475
Your math is poor m80.
76 seats is enough because even after providing the speaker they still win all votes 75 - 74.
>>80043177
I think its a big issue for a lot of people and the rise in One Nation isn't to blame for RACISM RACISM but rather a lot of ordinary people just sick of Labor and especially Liberal's complete inability to recognize that our farms and assets are getting bought up by foreign investors, foreign investment is a good thing but not when it causes detriment to ordinary Australians (See: Sydney and Melbourne as well as Australian farmland)
>>80043514
>lefties this mad that Boobs Shorten is a bumbling retard
>>80043514
shes just a rude interrupting cunt to everyone, I'm constantly amazed how people can hold their temper with her
>>80043615
You are correct sir! Apparently the speaker can vote on tied bills.
>>80043698
Yes the speaker has a casting vote.
But the point is with 76 seats the votes will not be tied. The government will win them 75 - 74. the speaker will not have to vote.
>>80019378
>>80020383
75/149 is a majority, friends
>>80043274
It's right not to trust Indonesia, but I don't think Australia is militarily invadable at the moment. Especially by the likes of Indonesia.
They are getting very good at detecting boats, and they have the over-the-horizon radar array pointing straight at them. Plus the north has a large percentage of AUS military stationed there, and i doubt Indonesian power projection abilities to reach much further than Broome or Darwin.
Anyway why bother with a difficult military invasion when Australia is already being steadily occupied by Muslims, Chinese, Pakis and even Africans?
>>80043756
Yeah I get that. I just don't think the coaltion will get there
>>80043829
>I just don't think the coaltion will get there
Your opinion is not worth shit m8.
>>80043274
It's what the ADF trains and buys for
No idea why they'd want to invade us, though. They'd lose bad anyway (even if there was something worth taking), so it's not even on the plate for a realistic scenario.
>>80043274
Cunt what? I think you muzzie friend has been drinking too much of that caliphate kool-aid.
I've never heard of this and there's zero chance Indonesia could touch us. Pretty much our entire navy is stationed in the Timor Sea and our tech is years ahead of theirs. They wouldn't get a chance to land troops, and even if they did they'd fucking land in either WA which is just a big fuck all desert and spend days trying to get across to the East coast where all the important stuff is or NT which is full of abo bushman and snakes
>>80018346
>Melbourne: Abam Bandt (greens)
Why am I not surprised
>>80043274
he's right but it's not a well known fact that indonesia's more likely to implode into a civilwar of at least 3 different ethnic groups and the only thing keeping it together is australian money
literally no reason to give a fuck about indonesia but with the kind of population they have people get nervous that it'll matter. australia's population is pretty small senpai but in any war situation they literally wouldn't even arrive here
>>80043514
I simply don't understand why people think the ABC's political programs are right-wing. They're so obviously left-wing since the Liberals want to cut their funding down.
>>80043953
A civil war in Indonesia is a remote possibility, but even that doesn't require us to do anything.
>>80043952
Live in rich area, have to drive to city for work every morning.
Driving past this sign every day brings me closer to becoming an hero.
>>80022397
I'm poor and broke how be security guard, I can win any fight
>>80035509
Katter a commie
get a load of this retard
>>80043952
>Why am I not surprised
I don't know, because he is the incumbent member maybe?
>>80044113
can't batter the katter
>>80024702
Don't forget he's ripped as fuck a true /fit/izen
>>80044060
>Not at least taking it down at night and replacing it with a nazi banner
What are you some kind of soft cunt?
>>80044060
Looks like it would be pretty easy to destroy m8.
Maybe a nocturnal mission?
>>80044113
he is an ultra-protectionist agrarian
proto-commie, as I said
>>80028564
Story ended up being the internet fiter at Parliament House registered dating ads on news websites as "adult content" and blocked them.
Was a funny few weeks when it was first reported that hundreds of thousands of attempts had been made from NSW parliament to access porn (from every party).
>>80044113
He is commie though.
>All dem rich city slicker should have to pay for farmers
Whilst I agree that we should increase our farmer subsidising, Katter is fucking shit for bricks.
>>80044173
>>80044205
this lol
although doesn't look flammable and fuck climbing those pillars, not an easy mark maybe you'd have to go full retard and throw a can of paint or something
>>80044298
>them delts
>natty
I shiggedy dig dig
>>80042984
seen differing reports from 4-6 seats projected
but at least 2 confirmed
Did LDP survive to the senate without the donkey vote?
I want more long winded speeches about freedom.
>>80044298
fucken Scooby tier abs genetics
Katter confirmed that in the event of a hung parliment, he'd go with the coalition
If libs stay at 73, will the two one nation seats go with the coalition too?
its pretty much a done deal then right?
>>80044423
Somewhat likely that leyonhjelm comes back + one more.
>>80044365
faggot nolift dyel detected. hes not overly massive and lean,and just because his delts are disproportionately large for his arms doesnt mean he uses gear.
>>80044397
That post was just complete shit.
Why do people insist on talking about stuff they know nothing about?
>>80044471
>the two one nation seats
There are no one nation seats in the lower house m8.
>>80044471
>will the two one nation seats go with the coalition too?
honestly i don't think pauline will have anything to do with liberals given any chance
she has reason to hate both big parties, they crucified her and she's not going to forget it
>>80044365
He was a rower.
>>80044397
Holy fuck, if One Nation win 6 seats how will Melbourne ever recover?
>mfw shitfailia will never, EVER get FTTP
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