Why does everyone hate libertarians?
Not sure, they want to advance technology quicker than anyone.
>>79976478
They refuse to acknowledge that their society only works with whites (particularly Anglos)
>>79976478
Why are those clips yellow
>>79976587
It would only work in small communities, a population of 300 million with libertarian values? Good Luck Chicago!
> Somalia = Libertarian Paradise
>>79976478
Theyre pissed because the rise of Trump and the rise of the "alt right" was supposed to happen to the libertarian party, Trumpkins have pushed them to the edge
>>79976478
Freedom and personal responsibility makes people nervous, especially those reliant on government money and sponsorship.
>>79976676
>what are banana clips
A FUCKING LEAF
>>79976587
This, pretty much. But for me it's more the fact that they think their liberty can be preserved with open borders.
>>79976478
Because they're either naive or willfully ignorant.
>>79976478
because most of them are open borders shills
As a libertarian, I think I can safely say that 99% of lolbertarians are euphoric faggots with no firm stance in reality.
They're like communists. They're the type of people who spout the "Hurrr real ____ has never been tried before!"
They insist that their society would work, but only if it exists in this sort of magical fantasyland like communism where things like corruption and crime don't exist.
I consider myself a "soft" libertarian. I'm absolutely for telling the federal government to go fuck itself. I think everyone should be allowed to do (more or less) anything that doesn't harm someone else. But I draw the line at shit like hard drugs (because in reality, you cannot just "do heroine" without harming anyone else, hard drugs breed crime, this is a fact). Nor do I think open borders are a good idea (because in reality, immigrants coming here because they think its the Promised Land are going to want free shit, and to get free shit, you need Big Government. Also, they cause crime and take shit away from actual natives).
Lolbertarians have some good ideas when it comes to smaller government and individual liberty, but they go pants-on-head retarded when they try to claim shit like "society would work just fine without government!" or "people can do whatever the hell they want!"
Men must be governed. They must not be governed with a tight fist, but rather with a gentle hand.
>>79976478
It's an """"ideology"""" for teenagers and mental teenagers that don't understand that a man is not an island.
>>79976676
>>79976897
>clips
>>79976587
This desu, while I agree with a lot of libertarianism I still support strong border controls
>>79976748
>Kokesh
I hate this guy.
I like librarys
>>79976478
Their ideas are pie in the sky and could never work in reality. Much like communism.
But I like the brand of libertarianism that is for weaker central government and stronger states rights.
>>79976478
They don't, the globalists are just attempting counter memetics.
>>79976694
Liberty != Anarchy
>>79976478
Because Marijuana is the most destructive drug on the planet, Guns should be banned, and i love getting my income taxed so niggers can get free money for the government. Also preventing niggers from getting abortions is one of my top priorities.
>>79976897
those are magazines
>>79976478
Because they have the same fervent idealism of the far Left. They treat government the same way that feminists treat the Patriarchy. (I know there is no "Patriarchy", but there is to feminists.)
I agree with libertarians on most issues, but their worship of certain principles and objects is so autistic and obnoxious that I end up distancing myself from the ideology out of embarrassment. It's like they're incapable of understanding that government might universally exist for a reason and that capitalism isn't infallible.
I also love music, and I can't help thinking of all the good that the pursuit of profit has done for the music industry.
Libertarian policies would be even more disasterous for america than liberal policies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lVC4xEK_6E
>>79976587
a libertarian nation with strong borders and no Islam would be pretty great
>>79976587
This. You need strict border and immigration control with no (((ethnic monopoly on media))) if you want a free society. They seem to care more about being "consistent" with the means (open borders, blm being libertarian because it's anti-government) than the actual end goal.
>>79976478
Don't know, mate.
But I love bananas. I've got an Irish friend and he reckons that we can live on Guinness and bananas.
He tells me that all nutrition can be gained from dark stout beer and bananas.
I tried it for a week. My turds were painful and bloody. And I was in a drunken haze.
Fucking Irish people. I swear they are fucking with us English.
Sins of the father etc.
Because they are delusional retards that think a lawless society where big companies that rule everything is better than a Government that rules everything.
Look at how people act in video games, that's how people would act in reality if there was no authority enforcing laws.
>>79977119
legal heroin is actually not crime by definition, heroin use will exist either way why not bring the degeneracy to the spotlight instead of pretending it doesn't happen or using laws (war on drugs worked so well bro)?
also libertarianism =/= anarchy
>>79976478
Because like most of pol, a lot of libertarians are neckbeard fedora wearing manchildren who own anime pillows.
>>79977130
libertarian =/= anarchy
>>79977303
the brand you describe is literally the ideology
>>79977676
This, You have to find a middle between no government and a totalitarian government, both extremes are retarded
>>79977119
I agree with everything here.
Most libertarians would get squashed like a bug in a truly libertarian society.
>>79976478
Because people are fucking stupid and form opinions before understanding what words mean. They think it means anarchist. It means the opposite of authoritarian, and every Western country is libertarian. You absolutely want your society to be libertarian, and so do the people who'd say they "hate" it.
>>79976478
people hate the weak and people hate the smug
>>79976587
I miss Austin Peterson...
THAT was a libertarian I think could have REALLY propelled the party in the mainstream
>>79977457
> no arguments
> government doesn't exist (govt is similar to patriarchy)
> capitalism doesn't breed the very best music on earth
kys
>>79977916
An ancap is just an extremist libertarian. The problems with libertarianism are exactly the same, just moderated slightly.
>>79976478
Because they're open border retards that think niggers will magically follow the NAP.
>>79977515
this
>>79977413
This
>>79976478
Because you're all ideological idiots. Individualism isn't necessarily a good thing, especially when taken to the extreme, across the board.
>>79978023
That said, if you have to identify as a "libertarian" and mention that out loud, you're probably obnoxious because it's already the default position to have and it's meaningless to say you are one. So disregard my shitpost, I suck cocks. That's a solid reason to hate them.
>>79977805
libertarianism =/= anarchy
>>79977973
libertarianism is minimal govt which is between those extremes
>>79978172
define slightly. There is an enormous difference between having no government whatsoever and having a limited federal government. If Ron Paul became president you wouldn't be able to legally sell heroin to children and we would still have roads.
>>79978166
He wasn't asking for arguments. He asked why I don't like the ideology.
You missed the patriarchy analogy so bad it hurts
Capitalism doesn't produce music, people do
>people wanted a libertarian
>that wanted stronger borders
>and make it illegal for aryans to abort children
You had your chance America.
>>79976562
often for the sake of having technology
>>79976478
Not HATE, but they have some pretty lame ideas regarding open borders and turning a blind eye to some pretty degenerate shit under the guise of "if it doesn't hurt anyone else, it's fine" that pretty much make them the lolbertarians they've become.
If they could clean up a few points that are their weak spots, they'd be viable, but Gary Johnson is a fucking stoner kook (whose weed accessory company he was pushing for investors on a while ago has gone nowhere, so fuck his business sense as well), you can't win a general election with a man who says "I'll finally stop smoking pot if you elect me president", so that's why the party is a joke now.
>>79978172
actually false also key word "moderated"
>>79977269
I used to like Kokesh but he became a faggot a while ago
>>79978166
Oops, misread "breed".
Yeah, it doesn't.
>>79978268
literally not an argument individualism would be anarchy you facebook tier faggot
>>79976478
Meme ideology that manages to be even more meme than communism.
Also, cringe tier party leaders.
Epic fedora meemes.
>live in libertarian society
>play football
>tackle a guy as part of the game
>he shoots me because I violated the NAP
>crawl into the nearest hospital
>they won't treat me because I dont have 10K in cash with me
>die on the spot
>they send my children a bill for throwing my body in a dumpster
oh well, I guess this is the price of freedom
>>79976478
Because true conservatism is a libertarians wet dream they are just too afraid to admit it and help us peruse it.
>>79978370
> you dont understand my nuanced intent haha dumb
> people create the music within the context of capitalism is an ideology which obviously cant vreate stuff by itself
>i am a retarded backtracking statist
open border cucks
/pol/ sucking Government' dick, as always.
>>79976478
I'm
>mostly
a libertarian and a former an cap, former lib soc, former mutalist.
>With the ancaps:
I don't see any situation in which PDAs won't devolve into a state- an entity with a geographic monopoly or cartel on the use of force and arbitration.
Furthermore some market failures do exist, especially around asymmetric information.
Not all actors are rational.
Not all actions can be boiled down to market terms.
>With the minarchists:
They need to realize that by allowing an means of coercion to exist, through voting[away others rights and resources],
immigration (state program that lets people of possibly coercive agendas to come here, whereas even private living complexes like restricted covenants and gated communities do extensive background checks)
and access to 'rights' and the criminal justice system, forces outside and in can be aggressive to you, using the state as the third party.
>With libertarians in general
They deny the aggregate welfare usage, crime rates, IP violations, voting patterns and cognitive capabilities of certain groups- save for some who hinted at this like Rothbard, Hoppe, and Friedman.
They don't realize that not all the Pentagon does is evil, and that we need to protect our free allies from larger, stronger, aggressive actors.
They don't realize that US global hegemony under its military strength- blowback aside- undergirds a safer world under which safer trade can take place, and thus an excellent ROI.
They don't realize that if we reduce total centralization and coercion in all areas, certain actors paying no heed to individual liberties of their own citizens will take this an opportunity to seize assets and liberties.
>>79978343
It's a sliding scale obviously. At some point the name changes form libertarian to ancap. So close to that line a libertarian society would be essentially indistinguishable form an ancap society. More moderate libertarians would continue to suffer from the problems of living in a society that is amoral and hyper individualistic (i.e., antisocial) to varying degrees depending on just how libertarian they are, but at any point where libertarianism is a defining feature you're going to see seriously warped and chaotic norms.
>>79976478
>Open borders memers.
The big L Libertarian Party has ruined the movement. There is nothing less open than property lines. When the roads and housing are owned privately, criminals cannot literally walk up to your front door like that can in today's society (and would still be allowed to do even in the closed borders society you advocate for). This bars a large section of black society from even entering your community, possibly to the point where the community feels it's more expedient to ban blacks altogether.
>>79978619
tfw you build straw men
>>79976478
Kys lolbertarian. Your meme ideology is dead. People love antagonism, wealth accumulation and violence.
>>79978759
It wasn't nuanced. Good music is almost never made for the purpose of making a profit; musicians usually have to sacrifice quality to appeal to wider audiences. I never backtracked.
>le enlightened libertarian who is so much more logical than statist scum
>>79976676
Bait
>>79976694
>> Somalia = Libertarian Paradise
This fucking meme...
>>79977119
+1 I don't believe in all the wild west an-cap stuff. Just smaller gov, more freedoms.
>>79979223
name a better system. name a country with a move thriving entertainment industry than america. name a place where art reaches its highest peak that doesnt have free speech.
>>79976478
Your countries boarders are the equivalent to your woman's pussyhole. Naturally you want to protect it from invaders. Lolbertarians believe in spreading the pussy and anus of your daughters to all.
>>79976587
This. I think we would need a good few decades of National Socialism in our countries before libertarian governments.
>>79978447
>Gary Johnson is a fucking stoner kook
Ah yes, lets run down the list:
>Gary "I support Obama's executive orders, forcing states to grant and recognize same sex marriage licenses businesses to bake cakes, as well as open borders to people with no respect to the NAP" Johnson
>William "Gun Grabber" Weld
>Bob "Patriot Act" Barr
>John "The Libertarian Party has sadly become a refuge for Whites and males" McAfee
>Marc "that Hindu Atheist Buddhist Christian libertarian" Allan "literal autism" Feldman
>Cecil "Subversive Hollywood Media" Ince
>>79979606
This
>>79979463
America has the single most cancerous and destructive entertainment industry in the history of humanity. Niggers fingerpainting zebras in caves was better; at least they weren't shitting up popular culture with trash back then.
>t. Shekelburg Shekelstein
>>79976478
Not gonna lie, I really like this picture.
It seems like it would be a very very smart thing to shrink the size of the federal government by a huge amount, say at least 25%
It also seems like it would be a good move to reduce taxes, government spending, and the scope of power the federal government has in daily lives.
These are things that basically only libertarians are promoting. Conservatives in the US do not want to shrink the federal government or reduce its power or reduce taxes.
cause i hate the jews and libertarianism is the most jewish ideology around
>>79977457
>I can't help thinking of all the good that the pursuit of profit has done for the music industry.
- I don't see how someone selling music stops other people from making music on a non-profit basis.
- IP laws violate real property rights and are the only think keeping record companies a float these days (even if prosecution is low, it still instills in normal people the idea that piracy is difficult or will get them caught). Arts in the libertarian society would more likely be done on a patron to artist basis.
>>79977643
Funnily enough, you can live off of potatoes.
>>79976478
Because most people hate other people's children.
It's biology.
>>79978985
The open borders thing is pipe dreamy like communism. I can see their footing for open borders if there is anarchy, but to promote open borders into a country that has a bureaucratic labyrinth with social progams and huge tax burdens is putting the cart before the horse. It makes no sense.
>>79976478
Libertarianism is a false utopia just like communism. Nothing wrong with the idea but to go full libertarian just isn't feasible
"Libertarian" is too broad. Its anarcho-capitalists and minarchists. They refuse to acknowledge that their idoeloies, like all "pure" ideologies, have their limits. They're based on UPB. But UPB is disproven instantly when you look at the natural world. In many cases, it IS more preferable for a group of individuals to steal off others. That's why fucking carnivores exist. They'll say "its not beneficial to anyone to steal" while biting into a fucking chicken wing that the chicken had to consume resources to make. And that's why you need another agency to enforce the rule of law.
the snake meme is funny
>>79979982
communism is way more jewy
>>79980317
not even close
>>79976587
this right here.
i was lolbertarian until i realized brown people have a high tendency not to respect the non aggression principle
>>79980317
Communism is basically libertarianism with only one corporation called the state.
>>79976478
It's a very Jew-y ideology IMO.
>>79980284
Theres plenty of people who identify as libertarian but could be described as 'constitutionalists' so they are not iideologicaly 'pure' in the same way as communists or an-caps
I think the vein of libertarianism that is most popular is basically constitutionalist, to reduce the power of the federal government, to recognize that centralized power more often than not fucks everything up and has no accountability
>>79980466
they are literally opposites you retard
>>79977119
I share similar views to you, I believe this is the "common sense" approach the party should adapt. Even if it's not "true" libertarianism who gives a fuck, still a much better option than what the republicans or dems have been offering
>>79980658
Not really, lad. A communist state is basically a big corporation that owns everything in the country and employs everybody and has no big gubbment breathing down it's neck.
>>79980600
That's what I am because I believe the function of a society, by definition, is to allow its basic unit, the indiviudal, to pursue its wants and needs. But that can only happen in a framework where people who's wants and needs are fucking other people over for their own gain are controlled.
>>79980183
Yes, my post only applies when the government doesn't own land and cannot force you to accept immigrants on your land (which, really, just means that they own your land in some sense). The concept of open borders makes no sense in a completely privatized society.
As long as all forms of welfare exist -- and this includes things like schooling, infrastructure, and police protection* -- then immigration must be strictly controlled and this does not compromise libertarian principles. Protecting yourself from further theft is the backbone of libertarianism but the Libertarian Party doesn't get that.
This doesn't necessarily mean that immigration control must be done at the federal level -- if welfare and government owned land were done only at the state or county level then so too could immigration control be done at the state or county level. California could wallow in mediocrity without affecting Montana.
* I would even add democracy to that list. History has shown that no matter how strong the constitution is, as long as people get a say in government simply by living there the constitution will eventually be eroded and people will once again vote themselves goodies at your expense. Switzerland has this right where you must be a citizen to vote and just moving there doesn't automatically make you a citizen.
>>79980284
>They're based on UPB.
We are not all Stefan cultists.
>>79976478
Because what they believe in would only really work in a white world. The free market does advance technology much faster and that is one reason why I still believe nations should have an extremely loose economy however have a hard militaristic shell.
>>79976478
because a lot of "libertarians" are actually just an-cap zealots full of utopian delusions who put their perfect moral system above any concerns of real world functionality.
deep down even they know how pants shittingly retarded they're being which is why they hide behind a paper thin label of libertarian
>>79980827
While that is true, the same could be said of all systems of government in which people aren't allowed to "opt out" (while staying on their property).
>>79976587
this. They also refuse to take a moral stand against degeneracy (hard drugs, homosexuality/trannyism) as being detrimental to a society as a whole.
What would the lolbertarian response to the crack epidemic have been? Just let the niggers die off?
Of course this sounds great to us /pol/acks but bring this up to a bluepilled lolbertarian irl and they have no good solutions
>>79976478
>Why does everyone hate libertarians?
They typically just hate liberal libertarians who buy into all the identity politics stuff, and those who don't confront the JQ. There's also ones who have internalized the talmudic aspects of libertarianism to the point where they would step over a dead baby for a dollar. Completely dehumanized autistic capitalists.
>>79980508
who are the j00s in libertarianism?
von mises, rothbard, freidman?
who else? ayn rand is like the 'entertainment' portion of lolbertarian reading lists, memecentric and not applicable
Hayek, Smith, Locke, de Tocqueville, Bastiat, Hobbes aren't
the main core of libertarianism isn't jewy, the contemporary economic portion is I guess
Where to start... most of them are just anarchists by another name. There are no unified positions in the ideology. Some want no police, some want private police, some want state police, et cetera. In the end they just change "less government" aka anarchy.
Let's not even start with the NAP bullshit.
>If everyone just followed this rule, we won't need rules!
>>79978104
Austin Petersen was a faggot who would be torn to shreds by anyone but Glenn Beck who sucked his cock once El Rato left. Most of his shit was taken straight from reddit, he even fucking says this >>79976562 in a debate
>>79981482
whats wrong with stepping over a dead baby
its dead
>>79981015
I disagree. Unless welfare is somehow curbed at the constitutional level- requiring a super majority of states and representatives to reverse, then if we removed the entire welfare state it can simply be voted back as quickly as it was taken away.
It's the vote that's the main driver of coercive behavior against others, and that's what we need to keep in mind when importing third worlders.
>>79981572
>Some want no police, some want private police, some want state police, et cetera.
So if I pointed out that "some authoritarians want the government to control the factories, some authoritarians want the state to subsidize private industry, and some authoritarians only want to control the social aspects of society" that would work as a critique against big government? Don't be thick.
Obviously, when the definition of "libertarianism" is "people who want less government" there will be disagreements in how much less.
>>79981276
Sort of, but with communism the state explicitly owns everything and is the producer and distributor of all goods and services, from normal government things like roads and schools to food, cars, underwear, etc. If a sole corporation gained control of an area with no government it would be literally no different from a communist country.
>>79976478
Because libertarians don't really adhere to the laws of the place the live in, hence they create conflict with everyone else, including the police and the justice system. You could say the same about muslims, most of the people don't have anything against it, but if they migrate to US or Germany they have to respect the laws and culture of the place they go. I think stoning people is barbaric and should be stopped, but I'm not going to a place where this happens and start complaining about it, as disgusting as it is.
>>79981792
>then if we removed the entire welfare state it can simply be voted back as quickly as it was taken away.
Finish reading a post before replying, Speedy Gonzales.
>>79976478
What sort of liberals are we talking about here?
There's a huge difference between Social liberalism and Neo liberalism.
>>79976478
because real libertarianism is a kin and family based ideology, yet modern libertarians believe the foundation of society is individuals, not kin and family. Their ideology is suicidal
>>79981891
>If a sole corporation gained control of an area with no government it would be literally no different from a communist country.
Yes, but that's a very big if now isn't it. It's not like the anarcho-capitalist would be okay with a corporation setting up a state just because it's "private".
>>79981207
> a lot of X are actually Y they just dont admit it but i know because im smart
kys
>>79977515
You can't be a libertarian with strong borders?
>>79976478
>>79982100
Why not? Don't tread on me, muthafucka.
>>79976478
they don't
they hate Libertarians
note the capital L
>mfw people talk out about drugs saying things like you can never legalize heroin, without having an ounce of clue about what heroin is, does, etc..
DRUGS ARE FUCKING DRUGS YOU IDIOTS. THE ONLY REASON ONE WOULD GET ADDICTED IN THE FIRST PLACE IS MENTALLY THEY WOULD NEED A REASON TO.
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEED, TYLENOL, AND HEROIN IN THE FACT THAT WHEN ALL DONE WITH MODERATION, THEY HAVE INHERENT POSITIVE VALUES. OH WOW.
![9c441fa95ee4bc2475485f79d257970c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rNstJom.jpg "9c441fa95ee4bc2475485f79d257970c[1].jpg")
>>79982059
There's an entire section on that pointing out how the state replaces the family. It's under libertarianism where families must rely on each other.
>>79976478
Fucking awesome mag skin
>>79978339
Specifically that's Minarchy. Libertarianism also includes ancap. Hell, it includes geolibertarianism with universal income. From an encyclopedic definition It's so wide a term to be almost completely useless.
Which us why people usually just assume ancap/NAP/homesteading, because of Rothbard's idiot manifesto he pretty much defines Libertarianism now for most.
>>79982059
> kin and family is voluntary
> hurr durrr libertarians are against family units ]
>>79982503
less government implies government by definition
but dont worry you are not retarded...
jk
I don't know but in the beginning /pol/ was 90% libertarian. We'd have those dumb utopia threads with sci-fi paintings. Of course everyone shilled for Romney in 2012 when he was the only chance to defeat Obama, but Gary Johnson was considered a valid if not ideal alternative.
Not sure what happened. I guess Trump's retard appeal was just too powerful for the dumb dumbs to deflect.
>>79976478
Despite their many faults, both conservatives and progressives realise that the majority of people don't know what to do with their freedom. They need to be given a sense of belonging, identity, purpose. Libertarianism destroys these things, leaving nothing behind but rootless consumer drones.
>>79982219
You absolutely can, you're just easily impressionable and unironically believe /pol/ strawmans that all libertarians want open borders and voluntary slavery
>>79982887
That's like saying if I want less murder than I would refuse no murder.
>>79982982
This happens every so while. I would think most Libertarians are self-thinkers that do a lot and don't sit on 4chan for days at a time, but basically have more knowledgable "power" in that they are genuinely building their own ideals.
Might also be talking out my ass, but imexperience
>>79982376
I've often thought that libertarians only care about self survival extending no further than a small clan.
>>79983009
>Despite their many faults, both conservatives and progressives realise that the majority of people don't know what to do with their freedom. They need to be given a sense of belonging, identity, purpose
If I saw a politician saying that, I would seriously consider them a traitor to the USA.
Who the fuck thinks in any possible way that because that's the norm, that's remotely okay or how it was supposed to be? ROOTLESS CONSUMER DRONES THAT CAN'T CHOOSE THEIR OWN FREEDOM? DON'T WE HAVE THAT?
>>79976676
Nigger lure. They tape the clips together to make for a quick reload, and paint them yellow to give them that pimped out look. They also come in greasy burrito pattern. If you go further south.
>>79976478
Because they're right and there's no way to get money or power from them
>>79983049
you are retarded if libertarians were anarchists they would be called anarchists thats like classification 101 your comparison to murder is utter garbage
>>79976478
For some reason /pol/ thinks libertarians can't be nationalists and have to favor open borders.
>>79983329
this
>>79983152
I think it's just that Trump has a way with so-called libertarians. Not just /pol/, but Stefan Molyneux, Alex Jones, etc.
>>79983278
All freedom is ultimately illusionary. Your choices are limited not by the government, but by the very actions of others. Libertarianism fails because it assumes that the government is standing in the way of your freedom, You can take power away from the government, power will still find its way back to the top. That's just how it works.
>>79976478
I have no idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Nad1b_3yY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_toYr_Hcdo
>>79976478
>Muh not true capitalism
>Muh free market
>Muh sheckles
>Muh pandering
>Party nominee is defending Hillary Clinton
>Muh "free" tade
>Muh cherry picking
>Muh Jewish ideological tenants
Also they pull the historical revisionist bullshit where they pretend the founding fathers were on their side when their ideological founders were psychopathic jew leeches like Ayn Rand.
>>79976478
>Chiquita
Wasn't this company caught paying a bunch of paramilitary groups in Colombia? If so the pic is quite fitting.
>>79985089
cuck
also blatantly false
power will make its way to the top no matter what libertarianism keeps it from corrupting the moral center of society
>>79986257
so people hate it because of shitty meme non-arguments? sounds about right familio
Leftists hate libertarians because leftists are basically that inbred kid too retarded to work a normal job and wants the State to give them money
Right wing activists hate libertarians because they want the governent to punish stupid "crimes" like drug dealing
Authoritarians hate them for obvious reasons
>>79976478
Because they have Capitalism Satisfaction > Labor Satisfaction
>>79989510
>Capitalism Satisfaction
googled this and found a bunch of links to marxista and socialist echo chambers. try to make an argument without word manipulation i assume you are referring to the natural fact that all human society has levels with a small group of people being more value than the unskilled laborers? i dont think your problem is with libertarians i think your problem is with the reality of human nature
>>79985089
Power is literally the cheapest thing on this planet. I have no need for it. The answer is making everyone understand that.
