If /pol/ is so traditional n' shiieeeet, then why does /pol/ always get upset at the concept, the idea of holding women accountable for their actions?
So lets try this again. How would /pol/ put women "back in their place" (as /pol/ likes to say?). A lot of you talk about how women should be brought back in line again, but then you put out all the stops to defend women in any possible way you can, even from criticism.
Walk her to the kitchen, tell her that's her safe space.
done
next leaf thread, please.
What? Our entire problem with third wave feminism is that they don't hold women accountable for their actions. It redistributes all responsibility to some invisible patriarchal boogeyman, and even if that were true, it's entirely existential bad faith.
>>79958877
But if you only go after "third wave feminism", you are only tackling a symptom and not a cause.
It was feminism itself, and many men, that pushed endlessly to get to where we are today. I can't even tell you how many fucking loser dipshits I've argued with on here that claimed to be "traditionalist" but then defended sluts and whores and told me that I MUST "man up" and marry a slut or a whore.
I'd say the true reason feminism has gotten this far is because men allowed it to happen, and the "opposition" to feminism is a sad joke.
>>79958403
a fucking leaf
>>79959081
No, it wasn't. Feminism itself didn't need Marxist influences. That's literally the soul of Marx trying to unravel the economic benefits of early feminism.
>I can't even tell you how many fucking loser dipshits I've argued with on here that claimed to be "traditionalist"
Wow, /pol/ is one person... How? Division/composition fallacy.
>I'd say the true reason feminism has gotten this far is because men allowed it to happen
Yes, something few feminists are willing to accept.
>and the "opposition" to feminism is a sad joke.
No, the willingness to engage the opposition on an intellectually honest level without their post structural safe guards and redefinition of every fucking word is.
>>79959586
Shut up, aussie. I never said /pol/ was one person - I meant that I've seen a repeated pattern here for years. /pol/ tries to evade criticism by using the "HURRR YOU THINK /POL/ IS ONE PERSON" response. I never said that.
>No, the willingness to engage the opposition on an intellectually honest level without their post structural safe guards and redefinition of every fucking word is.
..... but when traditionalists refuse to criticize women, and tell men to serve women at every opportunity, and still think we live in the good old days, don't you think that also has an effect? These are the same guys that claim to be against feminism, yet they help further feminism by putting women on an even bigger pedestal and only getting very angry at guys because we aren't chomping at the bit to serve m'lady.
>No, it wasn't. Feminism itself didn't need Marxist influences. That's literally the soul of Marx trying to unravel the economic benefits of early feminism.
I'm going to need more context for that.
>>79959261
Sideways Germany
>>79958403
>why does /pol/ always get upset at the concept, the idea of holding women accountable for their actions?
The problem with that notion is that they don't even do that. Look how many feminists chimped the fuck out after they got included in Selective Service a few weeks ago. And it's not like they would even be drafted for combat.
shieet
>>79958403
Look who it is again, ID Heaven. I'm fed up with your shit faggot. The other day when you called me a newfag, yeah, haven't forgotten about that yet. Fuck you I've been on here for months and probably get on here more than you anyways. Don't you know that you make yourself look like a newfag when you call others newfag? Just because you learned how to hack your name and change it to "Heaven" does not give you the right to disrespect anyone at any time.
snap
nigger shit faggots
>>79958403
Hopefully that's one good thing Europe will get out of the muslim invasion. Women put back into their place.
>>79960204
>months
fucking newfag
>>79958403
Meanwhile on bizarro/pol/...
>defending women no matter what
>>79958403
>If /pol/ is so traditional n' shiieeeet, then why does /pol/ always get upset at the concept, the idea of holding women accountable for their actions?
Are you retarded or just completely new to /pol/?
Feminism is the fight to give women as much power as possible with as little responsibility as possible. Fighting it in the name of true egalitarianism is the whole point.
Lurk more newfag
>>79959901
I'm not going to defend any romanticisation of the past. I'm also not going to accept that first wave feminism, for all its caveats, wasn't largely a good idea.
>need more context
We expected them to pay income tax, third wavers promoted degrees in unemployment.
We gave them money for materialistic consumerism, third wavers told them femininity was a trap.
We tried to compete equally and fairly, third wavers instated affirmative action to give women an advantage.
It's literally everything good about feminism being rolled back the second Marxism is introduced to the ideology. How can you not believe in demons and that Marxism is a demon?
I'm drunk, you're stupid, no one is enjoying this interaction.
I don't think women should even vote. (Or get jobs)
I think most on /pol/ share that opinion, we just can't go back to those days.
>>79960830
>le retard not realizing everyone is pretending to be retarded meme
>>79961117
As long as you believe that.
>>79960719
We're getting a bit tangled up here. Feminism is obviously a byproduct of the left, especially in the modern sense. But what you don't get, Aussie, is that "first wave feminism" was the little seed that was planted, and it has now grown into this fucking behemoth that we see before us now. It was the precursor to what we have now.
Women, currently, enjoy feminism on auto-pilot as well as chivalry, and almost nobody even notices this or questions it. I just don't understand how people can think this type of lopsidedness is good for any society. It isn't. Traditionalists put us all in a very bad place, since they constantly preach about the good old days, yet cannot comprehend the idea of holding women accountable and rolling back their vagina privileges.
>>79960507
erm... sounds like copy pasta
>>79961453
>We're getting a bit tangled up here. Feminism is obviously a byproduct of the left, especially in the modern sense.
No it wasn't and ONLY in the modern sense. The roots of feminism were entirely economical. Entirely. It was all about more tax, more sales of feminine products and more competition amongst workers. It was about Rockefeller, who funded it, fuelling capitalism.
>But what you don't get, Aussie, is that "first wave feminism" was the little seed that was planted, and it has now grown into this fucking behemoth that we see before us now. It was the precursor to what we have now.
No, it only became that way after MARXISM, hardcore Marxism, with funding straight from the Soviets and Simone de Beauvoir unashamedly abusing existentialism to prove it. There as nothing wrong with it, until Marxism.
Our enemy has and always will be and for the most part will only ever be Marxism. It is the new Satanism.
>>79958403
Why can't she just make porn already?
Jesus christ why can't she realize she'd make so much bank, even with femdom?
>>79962023
Your primary axe to grind seems to be against Marxism here.
I'm not sure how you can logically deny that "first wave feminism" did not give birth to what we have now. How, Aussie faggot? All you are basically telling me is that Marxism somehow perverted feminism after the first wave, and then you are denying that the first wave gave birth to what we experience now.
I'm also not sure if traditionalists on here are just pretending to be retarded, or if they are actually so stupid that they can't understand the contradictions between their ideology and what they post.
>>79958403
I don't think /pol/ can help you there, you feminist activities, i recommend you go there >>>/tumblr/
>>79963367
Hey that's pretty rare m8
>Anita Shekelsian
Adolf was right, they really try to hide the fact that they are jews.
>>79963480
I'm sure it's pretty common, don't worry about it m8.
>>79958877
>>79959586
>>79960719
>>79962023
You sound as dumb as that praceteom faggot. Back to Red dit kid
