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>German Innenminister (Home Secretary) De Maizere: "Just because a gun looks like an army weapon doesn't make it more dangerous"

Is he based?
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This is the first uncucked thing I've heard from you guys since you kicked off Operation Barbarossa. Don't jinx it, you've got a long ways to go.
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He is the only based politician in the government
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>>79928653
source Hans
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>>79928818
He bough a $1 bln drone without a flight license, the drone is still stuck in a hanger
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>>79928653
Genuinely shocked. Good job Germany.
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>>79928653
Pic related: Breivik wielding a Ruger mini-14 sports edition.
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How can non-Germans even compete?
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>>79928867
http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/REPORT-MAINZ/Deutschland-blockiert-ein-europaweites-V/Das-Erste/Video?bcastId=310120&documentId=36391468

Title says "Germany blockades EU wide ban of semi-automatic, army-like guns"
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>>79929168
Whats the point of banning assault rifles if almost none citizen in the EU has access to them ?
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>>79929168
>Sturmgewehr

Typical libtard
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>>79929145
that thing is SO cute.
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>>79929091
with a bunch of useless gay shit all over it lol
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Finally something since the 2014 World Cup that makes me proud to be a citizen of the Bundesrepublik.
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https://www.all4shooters.com/de/Shooting/Waffenkultur/EU-Kommission-Pressemitteilung-zu-halbautomatischen-Waffen-Juli-2016/

>EU-Kommission: das Problem sind umgewandelte Vollautomaten
Sowieso
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>>79929265
Watch the video it's hilarious

>there are 165.000 semi-automatic rifles in germany
>implying everyone could get them without problem
>muh anders breivik was in a shooting club
>implying all members of shooting clubs are like anders breivik
>muh green party secretary of justice in luxembourg says weapons are bad so they must be bad
>showing scenes from a video taken in a shooting club showing people handling guns (not even shooting them) with x-files-styled music in the background
>let the spokesman of the german rifle association say two sentences
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>>79929525
Man that green text makes me wish I spoke European.

>tfw bilingual English/Spanish
>can't speak the language of Europe
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>>79929525
>165.000 semi-automatic rifles in germany

Most of them are owned by the Bundeswehr and are being donated to Peshmerga.

All these german libtards should focus on cyber espionage and not assault rifles, BND and BfS servers are constantly getting compromised by the Russians and all what politicians care are banning assault rifles that practically no one owns or will own ? Give me a break.
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>>79929145
>literally the cuck tank
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Stop calling ARs assault rifles you dumbasses.

SIE SIND NICHT ""STURMGEWEHRE""
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>>79929761
We are funding/training/conducting bombing missions for multiple countries in the Middle East our voters can't identify on a world map, and the biggest issues in our upcoming elections are transgender bathrooms, claims of racism, and pinning ISIS attacks on white people.

Don't get too upset. Our shitstorm is probably worse.
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>>79929145
That's breddy cool. Seems to be one of those things that could be used through forest battlegrounds and in civilian control.
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>>79929747
This is bait
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>>79929145
technology never was germany's weak spot. it's the current leftwing ideology which undermines it's power.
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>>79930140
actually its the military version of the VW beetle.
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>>79929145
literally a clown car
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>>79930201
Well that and scat porn.
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It's a trap.
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>>79930151
Do you want a medal?
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>>79929761
B-but assault rifles make our well informed populace scared - do you want to scare people?
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>>79930201
>>79930283
vote Hofer
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>>79930343
seems to be more a US-domain, tbqh.
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>>79930384
how can you even think that i would vote for the green suckers?!
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>>79930363
>I was only pretending xD
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>>79928951
well, based but stupid
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>>79930550
kek

Tell me Alpenbruder, how is the atmosphere in Austria - are there many people who want to vote Hofer this time or do they hate him because now they have to vote a second time?
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>>79929265
No point, just stupid fee-fees.

>terrorist attacks happen involving illegal guns
>"HURRDURRR LET'S BAN LEGAL GUNS"
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>>79929145
That looks like hell to be a passenger in. Think about it, all crammed in there with no windows going off road, smelling the puke of the guy next to you.
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>>79930602
>me too ;)
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>>79930492
>14 reviews
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>>79930668
hard to tell, honestly. i prsonally doubt that the re vote will change anything. but many of my friends believe it. hope they are right. kanzler kern has revealed himself meanwhile as pretty leftwing, so there is a chance that this pisses enough ppl off.

general atmosphere is the same as ever. srveral media outlets drive their anti-fpö campaign, some - as standard - criticized the VFGH for their decision.
i think it depends mainly on the asylum-situation in fall how the vote will turn out.
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>>79930712
Classic liberal logic

The lefties in the EU parliament even proposed banning muzzleloaders

I like btw how you're allowed to run around the streets with a loaded crossbow in Germany but they could sack you instantly if you carry a fright-shot pistol
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>>79930858
don't be shy.
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>>79930914
sry for typos, i'm on my tab.
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>>79930914
>i think it depends mainly on the asylum-situation in fall how the vote will turn out

I have never hoped for refugees that much kek
I just thought that many of the young vdB voters might be too lazy to go out and vote a second time
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>>79930283
Looks useful, mostly because of its silhouette and width.
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>>79930935
In Belgium some Moroccan killed a bunch of people in a town square using an illegal fully automatic FAL rifle.

Guess what our government did in response?

Restrict legal antique bolt-action rifles.
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>>79930955
I can't believe these people exist.
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>>79930955
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>>79931132
I would kek if it wasn't so sad
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>>79930769
Who are you quoting?
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>>79928784

>since Operation Barbarossa


kek
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>>79930730
>never fell asleep on a long AAV ride in the desert.
You missed out.
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>>79931089
funny thing is, VDB espeacially succeeded with older ppl. even i know several cons who hate the current migration policy but still won't vote for hofer. i don't understand that. ofc the BP has no direct impact on this policy but alone the signal to have a green head of state in times where we are flooded with immigrants.
i'm pretty sure that SPÖ part of government will try to supress coverage of the migration-scandal as far as possible. and as many media outlets are left they will happily comply with that. before the vienna election it was the same situation. suddenly the almost daily reports about this mess deceased heavily. and shortly afterwards they continued.
it is a neverending joke we are living in.
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>>79931153
they do, friend, they do...
i saved this stuff bc ppl never believed it otherwise. she even did an AMA on reddit.
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>>79931489
At least they keep it to themselves . . .I dread the thought of some sort of scat-pride parades!
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>>79931392

Because they are cucks, cowardly cucks.

Im Horst-Wessel-Lied heißt es nicht umsonst, Rotfront UND Reaktion.

Die "vernünftigen" konservativen sind keinen Deut besser als die Roten; siehe Merkel, Juncker & Co.
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>>79931392
>VDB espeacially succeeded with older ppl

Yes but still he only won by like 30.000 votes - if this time the same people turn out, almost nobody changes their mind but 50.000 of his lazy student voters don't bother to vote, Hofer would win
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>>79930955
>verified owner
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>>79928653
No he's a fucking tool and you know it.
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>>79931766
Let alone 15,000+ people changing their mind over the fraud scandal. Which I think is even more likely.
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>>79931742
lol pls don't put ideas in their minds.

>>79931752
merkel, juncker etc are no cons anymore. our ÖVP makes a pretty rightwing conservative policy which i fully support. problem is they are tied to the SPÖ as junior coalition partner, so they get the whole blame for SPÖ's failures.

>>79931766
many of us suspect that the postal votes were partly rigged. even die presse (if you want to read austrian news, read this) brought an article about the many possibilities for soft manipulation, as ordering ballots fo old ppl who don't even know, buy votes - and what i personally think: voting in retirement homes with "help" of staff (in vienna many of them are SPÖ-leaning) or voting together in migrant-associations (kulturvereine, you probably have the same crap).
so its the question, if they can pull this off again.
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>tfw go to burgerland
>get to try an ar platform from som texan host family
>get conscripted in norway later
>standard service rifle is hk416
>literally slick looking as a burger-rifle with zero of the downsides
>implying german military engineering isn't still king on the mountain
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>>79931489
So how did you, an Austrian, come across this?
Be honest.
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>>79932200

If you are austrian and not a cuck, FPÖ is the only option.
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>>79930955
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>>79931778
ofc. no trolls allowed in scat-heaven.
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>>79932293
sorry for PTSD, mate. :'(
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>>79932255

Is the firing pin of the Hk416 spring loaded?
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>>79929465
Wow that is some skillfull coloring.
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>>79932281
again, most ppl esp. fom abroad have no clear imagination and knowledge what the ÖVP does. our lefties here even complain that their migrant policy is more right than the FPÖ's. they blocked the balkans-route, pushed the new restrictive asylum laws, propose the australia model on EU level and make pressure on the SPÖ-chancellor for many months to block the migrant-flood. and they got much backfire for it from EU and the left.
FPÖ is for me just an alternative atm as protest-vote. but if we weaken the cons too much its not an advantage - they are th only possible coalition partner for the FPÖ. and they have governmental power atm, so it's not ideal to punish them for their restrictive policy when it's the SPÖ's fault.
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>>79928653
wtf?

Germany stopped being cucks?
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>>79932861

Is there any party that would do a deportation program?
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>>79932444
Yes.
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>>79931489
>training

Christ does it end with you just eating shit from someons mouth
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>>79933077
there is no such thing as a deportation program, Hans.

The previous government in my country tried to deport illegal paki's (Operation Welcoming Zeus).

The commies and anarchists protested and the pakis got to stay.

I am bretty sur the same thing would happen to your country too, once your government realises that rapefugees are a net-money drain.

That 1 million men you've let in. Those get to stay.

Also,
>checked.
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>>79933077
i you mean with deportation bringing the immigrants back home or into other EU countries that's already happening - but far too few are deported.
i can imagine that a ÖVP-FPÖ coalition will be much more consequent in this issue. as i said: main problem is the SPÖ and there esp the chancellor kern. the secretary of defense e.g. is pretty rightwing too for the SPÖ.
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>>79933247
I meant straight out of their anus not mouth
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>>79929091
>Dat tacticool equipment
You're a faggot if you put anything more than a scope and flashlight on your rifle.
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>>79933327

Its not just them, I want every non European with a German passport removed in the long run, except necessary buisness people.

I know that leftist will protest that is why we need a right wing police and some right wing paramilitary groups who will not be hindered by the police from beating up the lefties and regain control over our streets.
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>>79933247
yeah i don't get this either. esp why ppl train to do it when they are obviously disgusted in first place. it's sick.
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>>79928653
He's the best. He's the one who keeps pestering all those cucks in the state parliaments to ramp up the rapefugee deportations. He should be Chancellor.
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>>79928653
Dankeschön Thomas. t. Sportschütze
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>German politician not being an insufferable cuck
SHIIIIIIIIIIIT
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>>79928653
No, Maizere is absolutely not based.
He is also not always wrong though.
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>>79933372

I hope so badly that if Hofer is elected and you will get an FPÖ government in the next election you will make use of that and deport every single one of the undesirables.

The thought of a liveable germanic land will warm my heart during the times of struggle that are yet to come.
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>>79928951
Possibly to secure future funding.
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>>79928653
>Is he based?

He's the one that started shipping out immigrants against Merkel's orders. He still has to hang though. Happy!
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>>79933549
>tfw thomas de cuckziere is one of the most uncucked politicians here
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>>79933500
I agree with you, but it's never gonna happen.

There is just so much nazi guilt in your people, I doubt they will ever vote a right wing party into power.

Just look at the media. They keep branding AfD and FPO as "far-right parties".

That's the equivalent of Golden Dawn in my country, which is a bunch of turks going around killing pakis (look it up, they really do go around killing them).

There is no comparison. AfD and FPO are right wing parties and just that. Not "far-right".

Until the media stop calling them that, you need to get comfy.

As I see it, only a pan-european happening will achieve mass kebab and shitskin removal.
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>>79928653
I didn't know that Thomas still had a brain left. Wasn't he the guy that complained about the rise of far right crime which was essentially just thought crime while completely ignoring the rampant antifa ?
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>>79933815
I'm positive the CDU will reemerge as the evil kraut party of our wildest dreams once it can unshackle itself from the Merkel.
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>>79933828

Yes, but the lies of the media become more and more obvious. They cant hide them anymore.

Everybody knows that they are lying because we see the truth everyday. The tensions are really high now, we just need to escalate the conflict more and more so people dont adopt to this bad situations and accept them as normal till we hit the breaking point.

At this point, elections may not be needed anymore.

This fight is real, it is about everything that defines us, that made this world a nice place, we cant let Europe die.
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>>79933999
these trips dont lie familia.
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>>79933327
I wish we could just deport the commies and anarchists, too.
Why couldn't our ancestors have the foresight to castrate everyone before they dropped them off in Australia?
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>>79934081
I don't know about the last part, Hans.

I remember looking at a graph saying only around 30% (?) of german males of fighting age would want enlist to fight for their country.

That's "we dun fugked" in my book.

I hope you are right though . I hope people will start protesting rapefugees more and more.

Only time will tell.
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>>79933999

Haha, sure thing bud.

Nothing short of a complete purge of the government and a military dictatorship for at least 10 years will fix your cucked shithole.
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>>79934222
>only around 30% (?) of german males of fighting age would want enlist to fight for their country
Take the current state of Germany into account and then think about what fighting for it in the army would really mean.
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>>79928653
https://jungefreiheit.de/kultur/gesellschaft/2016/geltungssuechtig/

kahane ist ein gefährlicher Parasit und Volksfeind
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>>79934238
As if you're any better off.
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>>79933747
see, the problem is, when they get into a government they have to make compromises and concede to their partners, EU etc too.
i bet you don't know that the most so called einbürgerungen hapoened during the first ÖVP-FPÖ coalition.
but ofc this was another time and another FPÖ - we can at least hope.
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>>79934196
Aussies turned out to be pretty based though, no?

I mean, the everyday fight for your life in a country that's basically a massive bobby trap appears to redpill people.

Look at their immigration policy. They turn boats back faster than the other side sends them.

My cousin living in aus and he now has 2 blond kids with blue eyes.

I'd say "das it senpai" to him if I could...
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>>79934222
>>79934297

I think others Hans objection matters here, Patros.

I would die for the Germany in my mind, which would make me more of a paramilitary than an actual official military, because for the current Germany I would not even move a finger.
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>>79934323

50% of the country got the right idea. Compared to your what?

Never mind the fact that 90% of our workers vote the "right" way, which is makes me very happy. Women and students can be BTFO any day of the week if you actually put your mind to it.
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>>79934394
Yeah, but still, if Australia had remained a prison island we wouldn't have this problem of "well we are stuck with them because there is no place where we could drop them off"
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>>79934297
I don't know man. Maybe you are right. I just hope my people will be willing to fight too.

I don't feel that proud about the current state we are in, but I wouldn't want to see my country die or even worse handed off to the turks or the arabs( turks in disguise) in general.

Freedom or death was supposed to be our "moto" if you will, but I see less and less of the former as we go on.
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>>79934495
I think you're the one overestimating his guys.
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>>79930201
> technology never was germany's weak spot.
Yes it was. Their ww2 tanks are overcomplicated shit, that breaks down at every crossroad. Russian tanks (technically developed by american - John Walter Christie) and english tanks fucked them up easily. Even soviet way of doing things (this kind of way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO-hZVgA-bk) was not a problem for Christie technologies.

Von Braun created rockets, but american rockets sucked balls all the way up till now. The best last shot - mask rockets, are overpriced shit. If they really need to build good rockets of their own, they should have sponsored blue origin, they could come up with something new, without von-braun flaws.
The best rockets are what Russian engineer Korolev and his school of rocket-engineering created. You need only replace materials for new ones and bring new electronics when technical progress is happening, but no changing designs. Ariane-5 is a minified RN-Energia copy.

Germans are capable of technologies. But their technologies suck in the end, because they cant into ruling. Their humanitarian technologies is either attack everyone on sight, or be cucked by the german river. When you can rule, you dont even really need to know tech. You can buy tech from people, who can do tech, but cant rule themselves.
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>>79933828
There is nothing wrong with killing pakis or non-Europeans in the West. Violence is the most effective way to achieve your political goals. You never chimp outs in Poland and Croatia for a reason. See a non-white face and you have a chance to get away with beating him up/murdering him? Go for it.
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>>79934372

I actually think FPÖ is pretty much centrist, my Ideas are more... radical I guess.
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>>79934503
agreed. We could drop them off on either of the poles and let winter-chan take care of them, no?

What's the difference between dying from a spider bite and a frostbite anyway.
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>>79928653
Give it time. EU decisions are not ones that can be undone.
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>>79934238
> military dictatorship
Coming right up
They've basically imported an army, one that won't give a fuck about going against local civilians
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>>79929465
hindenburg looks like lemmy
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>>79928784

>Lets corrupt as fuck politician off with a plethora of crimes who wants to food you with yet more easy votes (immigrants)
>Tries to act like his country isn't cucked
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>>79934711
please no :'(
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>>79934579
>Russian tanks (technically developed by american - John Walter Christie) and english tanks fucked them up easily
the T-34's cannons couldn't even penetrate the Tigers armour tho.
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>>79930914
Young people being lazy entitled shits is what won Brexit for us, so let us hope Höfer can pull through in the clutch
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>>79928653

I love all the:

Semi-auto rifles are da worst!

When you could take out just as many cowering civies with a Lee-Enfield or something.
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>>79934579
that's partly right but not all of it.
their tanks were weak in the beginning bc they underestimated their opponents, esp the russians.
but as you surely know, they later models were much more effective and spread fear among their opponents. but they didn't have nough tigers, panthers, königstigers, jagdpanthers, jagdtigers etc etc. and the next problem for them was that they were in a hurry to bring the new tanks in so they were in an immature stadium. and it's not surprising that russians made tanks which work better in their homecountry in first place.

same was with their airforce. the superior ME 262 came far too late and with too small quantities to make a difference - partly bc of a complete fail-decision of hitler. also their rockets never were fully developed until the end of the war. but no other contry was even capable of deveolping these weapons at this time. most later developments based on their work.

they had the capability to invent and build revolutionary techniques but they didn't have the tame and pissibilities to fully develop them at this stadium.

look when most of these new weapons showed up. it was around 43/44 - it's obvious that this can't have happened under same premises as in a normal development process.
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>>79929747
You want to learn arabic?
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>>79935433
*time and possibilities.
again sry for typos.
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>>79933549
Goddamn you are kosher.
He's an absolute fugee lover. He'd eradicate all Germans if he could.
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>>79929265
Austria and Switzerland (not part of the EU, but bows to their supid legislation for shekels) make semi-autos easily available so it would affect us.
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>>79930371

they should show the list prices and requirements for those guns, that would take a lot of fear away.

>tfw you have to be a member in a shooting club for a year
>tfw you have to shell out 3k+ yurop dollars for a HK MR308

and dont even get me started on ammo
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>>79934948
thx mate. but as i mentioned above... VDB did esp well among older ppl. don't even ask me why... probably their votes concerned the young age and the lack of a more bourgeious and academic background of hofer. not all ppl saw this as kind of referendum about the migrant-policy.
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>>79930955
>Eating literal faeces at work.
PAJEET
FOR
FUCKS
SAKE
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>>79935725
At least in Austria there is freedom of press regarding rapefugee activites. If you compare to Germany besides how they keep finding hundres of thousands of euros nothing must be reported.
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>>79934900
Yes but one tiger cost more that four T-34
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>>79932263
sorry, i never saw it. if you are still here: the answer is quite easy: /b/

i went on the page then bc i though it was fake. yeah... it wasn't. since then i post it sometimes to shock ppl and show how far society already has gone.
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>>79935433
Kingtiger was a waste of resources. Too big and too thirsty. Hitler should have just specced into mass producing medium tanks such as P4 or later model P5 rather than wasting resources on land yamatos.
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Not like it matters that Germany vetoed since Finland would never allow "assault weapons" ban. Semi-automatics are important practice tool for our reservists.
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>>79936057
i'm not so sure according to our freedom. you know that we have the public press funding - without this i think most of them wouldn't even survive.

next thing is, krone presse etc are pretty based. but the whole ORF, standard and several SPÖ-leaning outlets are far beyond left. they do not even need to be controlled. they supress or at least warp coverage about this things wherever it's possible.
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>>79936391
Germany shouldn't have participated in the wars at all and remain as a silent and "neutral" war profiteer like Switzerland.
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>>79936459
Freedom of press also entails having some brain dead leftie outlets, but in Germany any relevant media are left, self censoring and vastly outfunded due to public broadcasting forced membership.
Even pleb papers like Bild or Express lean to the left.
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>>79936391
yeah, it's right - it was huge and slow. but allies had no weapon against it, so they avoided the few until the end of the war.
it's just a question of the right use - for defensive e.g. use you can priorise strength over speed. in kursk as you might know, russians even digged in their tanks.

or you could use it as spearhead to break up enemy lines in cooperation with other, faster models.
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>>79933925
I guess you're mistaking him for the little Thomas who is a gigantic cuck
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>>79936658
yeah but we don't just have some braindead lefty-outlets. our whole national broadcast, the official primary information source, is one. and i think most others besides krone and presse are left too - or do you know more based media outlets here? i think that's a problem of a greater dimension.

with the rest i agree mostly - just think that the FAZ is at least still more conservative than most others.
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>>79936029
made me laugh. here is a (you) for your efforts.
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>>79936939
Classic Heiko "Germans should be put into GULAGs" Maas.
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>>79936761
Couldn't the 17 pounder penetrate it?
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>>79928653

Thank you, based De Maizere
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>>79929145
>Der Cuckwagen
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>>79936939
At least you got rid of Joachim "Informal collaborator Larve" Gauck. What a career from ratting out your neighbors to the government's secret police to president of a so called republic.
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>>79936203
I wonder how she made the leap from ordinary child to selling her faeces over the internet?

Like, there are some extraordinary steps involved.
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>>79937108
ofc could some weapons (esp some russian) penetrate it under ideal premises and esp if they got near enough or catched it fom the side . also bc germans didn't have resources anymore to produce the optimal steel.
but on the battlefield you rarely have ideal conditions - what i meant was that the kingtiger was such a dangerous opponent that they prefered to avoid it.
western allies didn't even have a strong counterpart for the tiger 1 until they got the pershing M26.
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>>79937728
lol if you are really interested here is her AMA - no joke. https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfw_wtf/comments/2118fb/ama_im_alexa_of_pooalexa_i_film_poop_videos_every/.compact

started with porn, not surprising...
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>>79930955
fake reviews fucking retard
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>>79938052
>verfied owner

how is illiteracy working for you?
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>>79937912
>Every poo she has is fucking sponsored and themed.
>There is a 5-7 day waiting list to have a request filled.
Fucking hell.
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>>79937912
No dog shit though. She has standards.
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>>79938137
lol i know. i could never imagine that this - literally - shit is so widespread.
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>>79929145
>mobile cuck shed
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>>79938214
there is one guy among this ama who had the weirdest request, i've seen for a long time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfw_wtf/comments/2118fb/ama_im_alexa_of_pooalexa_i_film_poop_videos_every/cid6mfh.compact
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>>79938418
Jesus how many extra chromosomes does he have. Fucking lobster? Why? I'm so fucking confused.
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>>79936132
...and had a kill/death ratio of what?

20 to 1?
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>>79938628
lol i have absolutely no idea... must be a combination of several weird fetishes.
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>>79938219
>4-5 day waiting list for "edibles".
This bitch literally spends every minute of every day planning her shits, setting up her shits, filming her shits, uploading her shits, cooking her shits and shipping her shits.

She is a literal shit poster.

I could shit post here, every day, for the rest of my life and I will never come close.

What do you do when you finally understand you will never truly realise your dream?
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>>79938635
In battle maybe.
But counting in attrition, breakdowns and lack of supply, the T-34 was a more effective tank.
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>>79929319
He still bagged more lefties with it than you will ever even dream of doing.
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>>79938852
Holy shit she is the true queen of all Aussies
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>>79938852

it are posts like this i like you strayas for. never change.
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This ban is very redundant because it's not like anyone in Europe even owns semi-autos.
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>>79938635
Twenty infantry to one tank is to be expected.

Twenty tanks to one tank is stretching it a bit far. I am fairly sure Soviet T-34 crewmen would be able to hit the tracks at the very least. And I think a exposed spot would be hit before ten tanks go down to it.
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>>79934900
Tigers and panthers where shots in own legs.
Cool in some ways, weakly related to war, but overcomplicated, thus unrepairable and very fuel-demanding machines.

USSR had it`s own KV-2 series, that where practically inpenetrateable by any german tanks to the end of war, while being able to shot trough good half of them. There is one episode, where KV2 was shot in suspention, was not able to move and harmed/destroyed at least 2 dozen of german tanks, before running out of ammo.
But it also was too heavy, thus fuel-demanding and also slow. And the war was blitzkrieg. You need to act right now, you cant wait for tank to be repaired in conditions of unreliable war-time logistics. They can deliver you some burning liquids to use as fuel (t34 could worked on a fucking furnace oil), but they cant deliver you part 4-311-M.3g(DIN-1488-1942-2.7).

They almost banned STG-44. Because their ruling humanitarian tech is retarded.

>>79935433
Tigers and panthers where shots in own legs. Overweight for the engine and suspension, technical curiosity with fucking strait-up standing armor, when everybody where using angled for years.

> me 262
Could be used for some extent, but was sabotaged just like stg-44 by anglo agent hitler, who starded all this nationalistic Socialism shit in the first place.

> they had the capability to invent and build revolutionary techniques
Not. They had the capability to quickly implement other`s people techs, when the project was supported with governmental funding. But the serial production and the quality of tech was medicore.

> look when most of these new weapons showed up
As *inventions* - at least 10 years earlier.
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>>79938919
nah, the T-34 had also considerable issues in terms of maintenance. In terms of actual advantages, the only thing that mattered was that it was diesel powered so their fuel consumption (and thus the logistics necessary to support it) was much lower, and that was even the reason why hitlers last eastern offence failed: their tanks ran out of fuel.

The only ones going gaga over the T-34 were the americans, because quite frankly their effort (the sherman) was pretty shitty, if cheap.
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>>79939137
wiki reports 10:1 kill/loss ratio (that's about tanks)

It really depends on the battalion. There were battalions with 15:1 and others with 3:1

here.
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/393107-tackling-the-tigers-killloss-ratio/

cut all that bullshit about "reported" kills and you have it.

>>79938919
this
>>79939381
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>>79935433
Austria knows what's up
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>>79936501
> Germany shouldn't have participated in the wars at all
PRussian Empire should not join with saxons in the first place.
They deprived themselves of their Russian brother ties and then it was ultimately easy for saxons to drag "germans" into war with Russians.

Since Vilhelm 2 world wars and current great european cuckening where inevitable.
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>>79936939
That was this guy? I remember him. He was chased away by an angry mob, right ? Also gauck is hated by the people after his fucking comment.
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>>79928653
They just wanna make sure those AK's Ahmed is bringing in don't get him arrested fampai.
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>>79939302
lol the KV 2 was just used for about one year. it was too heavy, too slow for the terrain and had a shitload of technicals so that they had to leave most of them behind. this was much worse than with the most german tanks.

>other people's tech
who exactly had these technologies before?

>serial production and the quality of tech was medicore.

as i already said: they had no time and at last even resources to guarantee an optimal outcome under war-conditions. hell they built these things undergound in final years.
the earlier models didn't have tne same technical problems bc there was enough time to fully develop the before use.
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>>79929525
>>there are 165.000 semi-automatic rifles in germany
My fucking sides
Do you even know how to arm yourself proper Hans?
1.5-2 mio in Switzerland
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>>79940009
> this was much worse than with the most german tanks
It was exactly like it was with panteren und tigern.

> who exactly had these technologies before?
Kann du nich google "jet engine inventor"? Es ist nicht etwas cryptologik.

> an optimal outcome
So much for an optimal outcome to lose the war lol.

> they built these things undergound in final years
That`s not an argument, my friend.
Russians build things in the field being slaves to kikes from anglo occupation administration, since the beginning and had all kinds of flaws.

Saxons like to cry about ">muh general moroz@russians are not russians but slavs and they din du nuffin", but there was their influence, that was much more harmful to Russians, than any frost was to any "german" army.
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>>79928784
>>79931364

That was literally the stupidest thing they ever did though.
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>>79940395
Isn't your ammo regulated or something?
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>>79935090
I don't think so famalam. 31 rounds of 5.56 vs 8 rounds of .303 British? I know how many rounds I could put downrange in the space of minute: around 3 times more with an ar/ak/sig/etc...
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>>79940672
i understand your german worse than your english.

if it was just the same with tiger etc russians would have used it longer than one year.

and what? you compare the invention of the engine with these further developments? lol?

you completely misunderstood the part with the optimal outcome.

didn't know that your ppl built their tanks, planes etc 'in the field' though.
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>>79941043
Nah, that's a hippie myth.

At best you just need the same level of proof of character that you'd need to buy a bolt action.
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>>79941082
>8 Rounds
Kek
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>>79929145

GERMAN MILITARISM ON THE RISE
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>>79928653
>De Maizere
>based
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But other than that; yay, guns!!
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>>79941500
Ok, I was mistaken. Add an additional 2 rounds per magazine - which makes a negligible difference but the point still remains.
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>>79934582
Yes lets all act like russians.
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>>79929145
Being german is really hard these days.
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>>79928653
You know that "Assault rifles" are basicly banned already?
>Hunters only can have them with fixed 2 round magazines
>Sportshooters have to participate where they need them
>Collectors basicly only can have them when they was build before 2 September 1945
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>>79942886
> when they was build

SHEEIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!
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>>79930955

>i was sucking bits out of my teeth all day
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>>79929761
No, there are around 165.000 semiautomatic rifles in legal civilian hands.
But keep in mind semiautomatic rifles are all semiautomatic firearmsthis longer than 60cm.
So this includes .22's like 10/22's and clip loaded rifles such as the SKS or the Garand
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>>79943529
>*semiautomatic firearms
Sorry, on the phone
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>>79930492
>$10 for a poop filled twinkie

Is it just me or does that seem a bit low? I'd want way more money for putting my shit in a twinkie. Still in this economy . . .
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>>79929145
>(((wiesel)))
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>>79943660
She gets paid to plan her shits, she gets paid to film and upload these shits, this is just the shit icing on the cake for her.
People are paying her for the privilege of eating her shit and all she had to do was squeeze it into a twinkee.

That said, you would hope she has a separate set of baking items.
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>>79940881
Still 10/10, would participate in
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>>79933460
A grip is also ok in my books.

A bipod on a mini 14 is particularly useless tho, I talk from first hand experience
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>>79941043
Nah you onely need to proof you are allowed to have a gun... which means you show of any gun license or your military service book (because we have the military guns at home).
You can buy as much as you want... i know some guys which have literaly theyr whole basement full of ammo
Hope their house never burns down
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>>79929145
>Not painting it yellow with a big number 4

missed oppertunity.
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>>79934579
>Russian tanks (technically developed by american - John Walter Christie) and english tanks fucked them up easily.

none of this is true retard

Tiger is a meme but still powerful and Panther was one of the most advanced tanks at the time

And only the T-34's suspension was american design
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>>79944171
I want nothing more than to be Swiss.

I speak passable German and I'm educated - can I stay?
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>>79944455
Onely if you are a black, rapist, allans snackbar or hate the west

Try to get a job before you com here but this depends on your education and if it is recognised here
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>>79940395
US citizens litteraly have more small arms than the rest ofbthe world combined.
We havr more semiautomatic"assault weapons" than all the world's militaries have rifles combined.
Including the US military
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Also a friendly reminder for all germans to donate to the german rifle association.
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>>79929145
>Literal clowncar
wtf I love Germany now.
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