>An Illinois man arrested after he posted a picture of himself burning an American flag over the holiday weekend will not be charged, a state’s attorney said Tuesday.
>Bryton Mellott, 22, was arrested on Sunday by police in Urbana, who said they had received complaints from social media users who had seen Mellot’s post. Other callers expressed concern for Mellot’s safety as some people online threatened to cause him harm, police said.
This is it, pol. I've lost all my faith in this country. I'm not even American yet (legal resident), but how do they not charge someone who burns down the great flag? Did they pussy out because of him being a fucking queer?
In some countries this hissy fit of his would earn him a public execution.
Why do we let this happen? Are they aware this is setting a very dangerous precedent?
http://ktla.com/2016/07/05/man-charged-with-desecrating-american-flag-after-posting-photos-on-facebook/
>>79916837
Go back to where you come from then. Flag burning is a constitutionally protected right. It's a matter of free expression. If you can't appreciate that you should seriously just leave.
>Freedom of speech doesn't count if you hurt my feelings
It's called freedom of speech.
Don't like it? Stay in your shit country, OP.
>>79916837
Burning the US flag is protected under the first amendment.
>Freedom of speech.
However there are some restrictions, you can only burn YOUR flag and in YOUR property, if not you´ll be charged with arson,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmG4GUjesig
>>79916837
he got doxed and fired from his wageslave job, I'm happy
>>79916934
>>79916993
>>79917006
>>79917035
I actually don't even know what the judge in that case thought. How does burning down a flag not constitute incitement of violence, thus exempt from the 1st amendment?
>>79917138
This. I don't give a fuck he wasn't convicted; he didn't break any laws. It's like liberals say: "You can say whatever you want under free speech, but that doesn't make you invunerable from other people calling you on your shit." It's just their own tactics used against them.
>>79916837
>cnn testing the pol waters: the thread
we aren't authoritarians or fascists. pol does appreciate opposing opinions
>>79916837
This happens all the time. There actually is a law that makes flag-burning illegal, but the Supreme Court always rules against it because of the 1st amendment. If he has a half-way decent lawyer, he'll be fine.
Talking about laws, there's also laws that make gun owners have a license to carry, but the Supreme Court has ruled against that way back in the past because it violates the 2nd amendment. But now it seems courts just don't give a damn about the 2nd amendment anymore, so who knows.
>>79917226
>How does burning down a flag not constitute incitement of violence
Because they're not going out and saying
>go kill government officials.
Flag burnings are protected under the 1st amendment, stay the fuck out you idiotic piece of shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._Johnson
>>79917226
If you're honestly curious, here's the leading decision. You can read through the court's logic here
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/491/397
As distasteful as it is, it should be and is free speech.
>>79916837
>I love freespeech! I mean other than when people I don't like use it
>>79917226
I think the better question is, how the fuck does burning a flag constitute incitement of violence?
>>79917366
>pol does appreciate opposing opinions
And yet the minute you come across one, you accuse OP of being a CNN shill?
>>79916837
>but how do they not charge someone who burns down the great flag?
Because its not fucking illegal to destroy your own property you fucking retard.
Save your feelings for your fucking family, stop caring about what other people do all the time you small little cunt.
>>79916837
>YOUR RIGHTS END WHERE MY FEELING BEGIN
remember that time that /pol/ was the SJWs
I'm fine with that. He's a fucking faggot, but free speech is free speech.
>>79916837
Shut up, you stupid foreigner. It's disgusting and reprehensible, but it's well within his rights.
>>79917800
This.
This thread, into the trash it goes.
I don't give a shit if some retard decides to burn a piece of chink-made cloth.
If the flag had significant cultural significance, such as the flag raised at Iwo-Jima, or some other historical event was burned, I would surely be angry. But this type of shit is protected speech, no matter how huge of a faggot this attention-seeking whore is.
>>79917648
>>79917454
How the fuck does burning down a flag not imply "death to this country" to you. That's literally the meaning when you burn down a flag in every other country.
>>79917366
>>79917439
>>79917476
>>79917541
>>79917548
>>79917759
>>79917876
This is like going inside a gay club and saying death to gays. Why the fuck would you go inside a gay club when you don't agree with their views. If you don't like the US I think you should get the fuck out.
>>79916837
right so check this out
right now, sitting in a car, probably stuck in a bit of traffic, you know big city living and all that
He has just finished work at a office or warehouse or supermarket it dont really make much fucking difference just trading time for money
On his way out of work he says goodbye to sara working at the front desk (a spicy little number)
he jokingly asks if shes got any plans for the weekend "oh not much just hang with the boyfriend i guess"
A slight chuckle is all he can mange as he turns to the exit , a rage so pure and intense like gouts of flame spike into his soul all he can think about as he walks to his car is violently beating and raping the stupid whore sara fucking dumb bitch ill fuck the life out of her he thinks has he brings his 1993 honda civic to life
he is on his way home now where soon he will lock all the doors, close all the blinds then put on his $10,000 usd pink and blue wolf furrie costume
and spend the rest of the night shoving bigger and more complex looking dildos up his arse, stretching out his urethra with a ballpoint pen and masterbating to child porn all live on webcam
this is the real world, people like that exist and worse they vote for hillary
all interpretation is lost just under the surface, can you tell the difference between a smile and a crocodile? are you sure? am not.
this is the real world, a world of illusions
>>79916837
1ST AMMENDMENT
>>79917800
>>79917875
This
Who doesn't sage after this post is a huge faggot
>>79917727
It's illegal to destroy currency. That's your own property.
My freedom of speech does not trump your right to not be offended.
>>79917954
>Why the fuck would you go inside a gay club when you don't agree with their views.
why indeed
Its a flag you faggot, and inanimate unliving object.
who cares
>>79916837
The flag represents the freedom to burn the flag
He's probably in legitimate danger of getting a severe beating, though. I certainly hope it happens.
>>79916837
There is only one time when an American flag should be burned, and that is during a retirement ceremony. That motherfucker lucked out. He looks like his grip is too weak to make sure he doesn't drop the soap.
All flag burners should be deported, it's fucking clear as day that they don't want to be here. I'm sure Canada would take them in.
>>79917954
Uttering death threats is illegal and not protected free speech
>>79917954
No, burning an icon of a country does not explicitly mean that you want anyone in it harmed, if that's what you mean
People like him use it to express dissatisfaction with some of the nations policies
>>79917954
Triggered?
>>79917954
The only way your rights can be denied in the US is if your actions are inciting violence or it´s a security matter.
>>79917954
no, its like burning a flag and then posting the picture to Instagram
>>79916837
>that gyno
>>79917978
Really?
THAT, is your argument?
Wew lad.
>>79917954
>burning a flag means you wish death on everyone in that particular country
>>79917978
Actually according to Jesus currency is not your property, unless if has your own picture on it
>>79918133
>The flag represents the freedom to burn the flag
the flag of a country should be sacred though. If one burns it then he shouldnt be protected by the laws it represents.
athough america is the weird place where you can have the flag right next to your genitals and not get charged or anything
>>79918490
>"death to this country"
>death on everyone in that particular country
>>79918664
Fuck off. Brazenly expressing that you have a problem with the way your country is run should not obligate you to forfeit your legal protections.
>>79918789
flag burning is pure autism, attention whoring and the domain of chimps. Go do a protest or some shit like that.
>>79918750
Oh so we're going with the death to the imaginary borders one. Alright, how's that an incitement to violence then? To wish the end of something that is entirely imaginary and symbolic?
>>79918664
White people have evolved past emotional connections to pieces of fabric
>>79918952
>flag burning is pure autism
as opposed to people who sperg out and demand that others be punished for harmless acts?
He spent a night in county, as a skinnyfat white twink
chances are he no longer feels that black Lives Matter or that fucking WHITE males are the worst thing on the planet.
>>79916837
Do you think he was man enough to light the flag on his own?
Your daily reminder that flagfags are the MUH HATE SPEECH of the right.
FREEDOM
OF
SPEECH
HATE SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH
FLAG BURNING ARE FREE SPEECH
FREE SPEECH FOR ALL
FREEDOM AIN'T EASY
>>79916837
A minor charge would encourage it. It would become a Left-wing battle patch of honor, and more people would do it.
>>79917954
"death to this country"
You are really butthurt to be using this kind of mental gymnastics. You just want to silence everyone who doesn't practice nationalism, which is exactly how us nationalists portrayed globalists (It was correct). Don't use the enemy's old tactics of silencing.
>In some countries this hissy fit of his would earn him a public execution.
Which is what makes our country great. Those other countries can go eat out a rotten asshole.
>>79916837
>I can't destroy my property because it offends people
Fuck you, Commie.
>>79916837
Ladies and ladies, right there is the next Bernie Sanders.
>>79916837
Everybody shut the fuck up and pay respect to based julie in there.
>>79919055
why even bother having a flag when people can burn it, piss on it, shit on it, step all over it?
He's perfectly in his rights to burn a flag.
I'd still like to see him get the shit kicked out of his head but that's because he's a faggot traitor.
If you don't like this country then FUCKING LEAVE
>>79919365
are you getting triggered?
>>79919365
So the people who are proud of their nation have something to raise while those who have problems with it have something to demean
You can have both you know
>>79919375
She's not going anywhere on a minimum wage retail job.
Mexico is too dirty, Venezuela is too real, and Canada doesn't want white people.
>>79919464
>hehe he got angry i win lol
>>79916837
Seeing things like this makes me want to burn a gay pride flag in public. But it's always just a little thought I have. No need to funnel them money and cavort around like a child. He will grow up one day and look back upon this with embarrassment.
Protected under the First Amendment. Arresting his dumb ass is a waste of taxpayer money.
>>79919464
Of course leafs don't care about their flag because they have the shittiest flag on the fucking planet.
>>79916837
>sjw shills coming out of the woodwork to defend a fellow nu-male
>>79919621
>He will grow up one day and look back upon this with embarrassment.
This. We were all edgy faggots once. He's just going to suffer from it more because the internet never forgets.
>>79919670
>Arresting his dumb ass is a waste of taxpayer money.
Blame the Illinois legislate its their job to remove from state statutes but they haven't. Its the police's job to arrest people when they have evidence they met the statute.
>>79916837
it's not illegal to burn the flag there have been several court cases about it, you stupid dumbfuck you shouldn't be an american if you don't even know this
but the guy should get his ass kicked
This while fiasco solidifies, in my mind, the apparently antiquated adage of "I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
The first amendment isn't subjective, folks. You can't simply pick and choose the right to free speech based solely upon a particular situation.
>>79919464
why would I be triggered by an american burning his country's flag lmao
is he proud that he can show this much disrespect to the state that allowed a safe place for his upbringing in the 1st place? its puzzling that he can defile one of the ultimate symbols of the country and not get charged for it, AND have people defending him. Western degeneracy I guess. He should take a big fat dump on washington's grave next.
>>79916837
Why is this big deal?
You can't elegantly juxtapose it with another incident for hugeass political points?
So what else can we burn?
The UN flag?
The pride flag?
The vatican flag?
The EU flag?
The ISIS flag?
The saudi flag?
*yawn*!!
>>79916934
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/700
It's also a punishable offense via Flag code.
>>79920326
That's freedom of expression you retard. Either everything is permitted or we have to have exact rules of how to limit it
Who would YOU trust to have absolute authority over what you can and can't say or express? You wouldn't trust me, I wouldn't trust you. You wouldn't trust a lefty and surely vice versa.
So that's why the best option is to allow everyone absolute freedom in the issue. No one is wronged or stifled.
>>79920493
Try burning a pride flag in Cuckanda, I'm sure you'll be sent to prison.
>>79916837
Quran burn is guilty
flag burn is justice
wtf
>>79916837
Reminder that OP is a normie from Forbes.com trying to understand /pol/
>>79916934
this
>>79916837
Why burn the flag of the country you live in? I'd understand burning your enemy's flag but your own? If you hate it so much why not leave?
These people should be trialed as terrorist because if they hate the country so much to destroy the flag what else are they willing to do to the country?
>>79916837
It's constitutionally protected freedom of expression but ironic as fuck.
>Hate everything about your country because of leftist social conditioning.
>Burn flag and post it on social media like a giant faggot.
>People get mad.
>Invoke your rights the constitution allows you while literally shitting all over the country that protected those rights with blood.
>>79916837
The precedent is already set. It's completely legal to burn the american flag. Do it in public and you might get your teeth kicked in though.
>>79920800
Sorry, I'm not particularly interested in burning a pride flag. I doubt I'd get in shit for burning a Canadian or Torontonian flag.
I could want to burn the UN or Vatican flag.
Though I can imagine getting in shit for burning the Quebec or Indian flag.
>>79920326
>is he proud that he can show this much disrespect to the state that allowed a safe place for his upbringing in the 1st place?
Yup
Feels good to not be cucked
>>79921188
Because leftists are edgy faggots that were socially conditioned to hate themselves and their country.
Essentially useful idiots who think they're challenging the status quo.
>>79921188
Just because you think your country has lots of problems, doesn't mean you should want to leave it
That's immigrant thinking 'lets all just pack up and go live in a good country, surely this shithole will one day magically fix itself'
>>79916837
>Wont be charged
No shit. He didn't do anything illegal. Honestly, I'm surprised they arrested him at all.
>>79920680
>exact rules of how to limit it
>what is the flag code
I was brought up with the notion that some things are just off limits, no matter how much grievance you may have. Its extremely distasteful and disrespectful to those who actually died fighting for the country.
>>79921226
>feels good to be a dipshit and feels good to defend a dipshit
whatever man, you people are weirrrd
>>79921462
From the sounds of it the police put him in protective custody because of the outrage he started on social media.
Essentially screaming fire in a crowded theatre.
He put himself and others at risk for being a giant dipshit.
>>79917954
How new
>>79917956
what did I just read
>>79921527
They're not disrespecting any soldiers, their problems are with the way the country is now
Just because it's a shitty gesture doesn't mean rights should be revoked. That's leftist bullshit if you think otherwise.
>>79916837
I was in urbana today next time im there should i stop by his house and shove an American flag up his ass?
>>79921394
>Just because you think your country has lots of problems, doesn't mean you should want to leave it
Same reason not to hate it to the point to burn the flag. Burning a flag means you hate everything the country represents, not that you think your country is imperfect
>>79922188
It can mean whatever you want it to mean, such expressions aren't set in stone like that
>>79919238
You should read the Flag Code of the United States. A flag is much more than a simple property.
>>79919222
I think nationalism is one of the very basic obligations and civic duties of a citizen who is being protected and served by the taxpayers of said land. Why should a cop be obligated to protect and server someone who doesn't respect one of the very basic values of the land he's living in?
He should be deported. I would never burn an American flag. Even if I hated everything about America. What a classless idiot.
I could have sworn this was settled years ago.
>>79916837
>executing someone over a fire which only burned some cloth
Yeah flag burning is disrespectful as shit, but executing someone for it is savage, third world tier behavior. You don't belong in the land of the free if you consider political statements to be warranting the death penalty
>>79917954
Genius, you know that government and people are separated, twitter could delete the pic, his company that he works for could fire him, and his neighbors can hate him while hanging their flag high! The government will allow him to burn the flag AND face the consequences (legal consequences of course they would intervene if someone vandalized his property)
it's fucking treason and he deserved to be put in jail
he'd love it anyway
>doing something not illegal doesn't get you arrested
What a shock
>>79916837
He should not be charged. I will fight for his right to express his free speech just as hard as I will fight for my right to call him a traitorous kike.
>>79917954
It's legal to say death to gays in a gay club
>>79919365
AS LONG AS ITS YOURS
>>79917313
>their tactics
People have been destroying each others social and professional reputations over political disagreements forever famalam
>>79916837
>burn lgbtbbq flag
>get sentenced for hate crime
Why the fuck was he even arrested?
Let me guess you have shit like "insult to a flag" being a crime?
Looool
Paid your church tax and tv tax already?
>>79922397
Who cares about the flag code
>>79916837
sounds good
Time to burn BLM and gay pride flags outside of their riots.
>>79920515
he could've just said the flag was soiled so he was disposing of it
>>79923368
>church tax and tv tax
The US isn't fucking Bongistan
I also highly doubt that Putin wouldn't care about people burning the Russian flag. Go ahead and try it for us.
I also believe he was arrested since in most neighborhoods it's illegal to start random fires that could light the whole place on fire.
>>79916837
Let them burn it. It just makes it easier to see the cunts in the crowd
>>79916837
>Everyone in this thread claiming free speech
>It isn't anything said or written, nor can one assume it's an opinion
>Is actually a universal code for war upon a nation, like a white flag representing surrender.
It's akin to making a threat, free speech is about protecting expression and belief, it doesn't mean you can declare war and then say "it's just a prank bro!"
>>79916837
>Our speech is so free. The freest in the world, I swear.
>No flagburning though.
>>79924122
Hate crime
>>79916837
Who cares? america is the land of the free, if someone wants to burn the flag so be it, they'll get better punishment by people wanting to beat them up for it rather than make it illegal.
This is communist union tier shit. People Shouldn't get arrested for expressing themselves.
>>79922077
maybe just remove the american flag from your ass
>>79924657
Just beat them up lol
>Burn the American flag
FREEEEEDOOOOOM MOTHERFUCKER *gulps burger*
>Burn Israel/LGBTQ/BLM flag
HATE CRIME HATE CRIME
>>79916837
That's why America is going to die. You obsess too much over that freedom meme the frogs shat out during one of their chimpouts.
>singapoorean being an authoritarian pussy
wow what a surprise!
>>79916837
SHALL
Flag burning is a first amendment right you fucking commie
>>79916837
pretty sure it is illegal to burn the flag.
the state attorney needs to be shiv'd
>>79917226
Nigger that has nothing to do with violence
>>79916837
It's protected under the First Amendmant.
>>79926639
No it's not. Protected by the first amendment. It's only illegal if you do it in public without a permit.
>>79917978
It's not.
It's a token from the rothschilds saying that you can exchange it for an equivalent value of goods/ services.
>>79916837
Unforyunately, he is protesting technically, therfore under a previous precedent setting case he cannot be punished. But that is no reason that someone can't beat his ass.
>>79920515
The Constitution trumps your stupid fucking flag code, traitor
>>79916837
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE HE BURNED THE KORA- FLAG
>YOU CAN'T DO THAT THE KORA- FLAG IS SACRED
>those damn Muslims don't believe in freedom of speech, just look at how they react to people who insult their sacred prophet
>b-but flag burning should definitely be illegal, I mean it's a sacred symbol so you shouldn't be allowed to insult it
>>79916837
>Not even American yet
>wanting to be an American but doesn't know the bill of rights
You got a while to go there buddy
FLAG DISPOSAL:
1. The flag should be folded in its customary manner.
2. It is important that the fire be fairly large and of sufficient intensity to ensure complete burning of the flag.
3. Place the flag on the fire.
4. The individual(s) can come to attention, salute the flag, recite the Pledge of Allegiance and have a brief period of silent reflection.
5. After the flag is completely consumed, the fire should then be safely extinguished and the ashes buried.
6. Please make sure you are conforming to local/state fire codes or ordinances.
Is he a fucking faggot for doing this? Yes.
Should he be punished for this? No.
This is the land of the free, and he has a right to hate his country.
>>79917956
Fresh pasta, or what Chef, it seems like is missing something...?
>>79916837
Get out of the U.S. you cunt.
Just. get. Out.
You have no right to be here, you don't deserve to be here.
The only "incitement" I'm seeing here is you being a raging faggot. You do not come into my house and start sperging out that your opinion is "the law."
You sound like a foreign national who has come here to incite sedition and overthrow our Constitution.
Get.
Out.
Don't ever come back.
>>79921527
Based comrade.
>>79923368
Go to bed Russia, you're drunk again.
>>79928108
nice libertarian utopianism bud, but when you let enough people burn your flag it's called a "revolution"
>>79928487
No, its a revolution when people take up arms.
>fire dropping onto possibly flammable ground
as a canadian this triggers me
>people think recklessly waving flaming kindling around should be legal cuz muh three 'peach
more constructive ways to say you hate america but those probably won't get you attention.
hahaha some babies on here being hypocritical about freedom of speech once again
>muh flag code
>it s-should be illegal to burn it because i dont like it
>>79917035
>you can only burn YOUR flag
Yes, conditionally. There are exceptions and exemptions, and not all local jurisdictions require that you be the actual owner.
For the most part, though, Yes. Burning someone else's flag opens you up to various complaints.
> and in YOUR property
No. You have the right to use public property, within limits.
However, you do open yourself to various liabilities. Such as inciting a riot, reckless endangerment, other consequences of doing so in a reckless or otherwise irresponsible manner, etc.
Technically, you can stand in front of the Whitehouse gate, the entrance to a military installation, in front of a foreign embassy, or on the steps of Congress and burn a flag (any flag, not just an American flag) ... so long as you do so responsibly without endangering any people or property.
Now, pragmatically, you are very much subject to timing and luck as to who sees you, or takes a video of you, and what someone decides to do in reaction ... either private citizens or official law enforcement.
Example: if you quietly burn a small, notebook-page sized paper flag with a couple friends (maybe even in front of the Whitehouse gate) to take a quick video for social media protest, you may very well get away with that. Secret Service or DC cops might just decide to smile and stand quiet, no matter their personal feelings.
If you decide to take a car-sized plastic flag and flame it up with half a gallon of gasoline near a crowd of Trump supporters attending a Trump rally at the Lincoln or Vietnam Veteran's Memorials (national monuments, without permit) ... well, assuming they don't outright kill you, there would be legal ramifications for incitement to riot and generally endangering bystanders & property. The "intent" to initiate a riot could (probably will) get you, just as much as the "reckless endangerment."
tl;dr -- it's not a black & white issue. There is a gray scale that takes in many conditions & circumstances.
>arrested for burning a chinese product that was raised in Iraq
M-MUH STARS AND BARS
>>79928235
>he wants to be cucked that hard
TOP KEK
>>79916837
If you prosecuted people for burning the American flag you would be metaphorically burning it for infringing upon the liberty that it stands for
>>79916837
>It's a hate crime to say "DEATH TO ALL NIGGERS", but not to say "DEATH TO AMERICA".
Honestly, if you're a flag burner you don't deserve to live in the country. Go to Canada or something, and I'll gladly take your spot and say the oath to the flag every morning and stand up and clap and cry whenever I hear the American anthem.
>Muh freedumbs mufugga
Why are Americucks so cringy and brainwashed?
>>79923368
>Why the fuck was he even arrested?
You should have read the article. It's short, but surprisingly well-researched and made several concise, factual points.
Here was the critical meat to answer your question:
> Police said they made the arrest under a 2013 Illinois flag desecration law "to try to assure the safety of the public and Mr Mellott."
> The law allows for prosecution of individuals who publicly mutilate or deface a flag.
> However, Champaign County State's Attorney Julia Rietz said charges would not be filed against Mellott because the Illinois flag desecration statute was contradictory to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that deemed flag burning protected by the First Amendment.
> The ruling, Texas v. Johnson, came after a Texas court's conviction of Gregory Lee Johnson, who burned an American flag outside the 1984 Republican National Convention in Dallas in a protest against President Ronald Reagan.
> The Supreme Court overturned the Texas court's ruling, saying flag burning constituted "symbolic speech."
I find it hilarious that the Texas v. Johnson ruling was instigated by, of all things, protected speech to protest against the abomination known as "the Reagan."
That is just totally fucking sweet.
>>79929672
>Why are Americucks so cringy and brainwashed?
high on
F R E E D O M
R
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E
D
O
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>something something freedom of speech
>something something its just a piece of cloth
you are no different that the people of defend charlie hebdo
>>79930106
Name one freedumb Muricans have over people in Europe or any other Western country
>>79930231
>Name one freedumb Muricans have over people in Europe or any other Western country
our defamation/libel laws compared to yours
>>79916837
well, yeah.
welcome to a free society, where you have the right to be a dipshit.
>>79930335
>defamation/libel laws
The 1st amendement in Murica doesn't protect private speech.
>>79930231
>modern Greece
>Western
kek
>>79930464
>The 1st amendement in Murica doesn't protect private speech.
what does that have to do with defamation/libel laws?
>>79922397
because people have their own opinions and can disagree in a country with free speech
>>79930554
Because private non political speech doesn't have the protection of the 1st amendement.
>>79930699
>Because private non political speech doesn't have the protection of the 1st amendement.
Again, what does that have to do with defamation/libel laws? Are you insinuating that you can be charged with libel/defamation for private non political speech?
>>79916837
You can burn any flag you like in the USA, you silly monkeys. Did you not know that?
>>79930790
>Are you insinuating that you can be charged with libel/defamation for private non political speech?
Yes you can in America. Look at the recent gawker- Hulk Hogan sex tape case. Maybe libel laws in Murica are more lax compared to Europe but this is subjective and hard to determine
>>79917548
>/pol/ - Politically Incorrect
Hard agreed.
Imagine if he burned flag of Israel or syria, he'd be in a fema camp now.
>>79930941
>Yes you can in America. Look at the recent gawker- Hulk Hogan sex tape case.
that wasn't a libel case though
Bollea v. Gawker was invasion of privacy, infringement of personality rights, and intentional infliction of emotional distress
>Maybe libel laws in Murica are more lax compared to Europe but this is subjective and hard to determine
that is the point I was making and "maybe" doesnt need to be included. Our libel laws are the least plaintiff-friendly compared to all other western countries. there is a reason things like "libel tourism" exist.
>>79916837
This is why we NEED police brutality
>>79930941
Illegally gotten gains then published against the victim's express wishes. Oh, no how surprising that it didn't work out for gawker.
>>79931155
>are the least plaintiff-friendly compared to all other western countries
And why is this necessarily and unquestionably good? What needs to be protected by government sanction is political speech. Everything else is inconsequential. Why should I care if tabloids are protected from lawsuits?
>ib4 muh freedumbs
>>79929305
>If you decide to take a car-sized plastic flag and flame it up with half a gallon of gasoline near a crowd of Trump supporters attending a Trump rally at the Lincoln or Vietnam Veteran's Memorials (national monuments, without permit) ... well, assuming they don't outright kill you, there would be legal ramifications for incitement to riot and generally endangering bystanders & property. The "intent" to initiate a riot could (probably will) get you, just as much as the "reckless endangerment."
>Trump supporters
>Violent
Can we please stop this meme? So far in the news it's literally been nothing but peaceful Trump supporters getting accosted by angry brown people with the internet screaming "NOT SO TOUGH NOW HAHA"
>>79916837
I burn american flags everyday
>Consensus of the Thread:
OP should go back where he came from.
>>79931424
>And why is this necessarily and unquestionably good? What needs to be protected by government sanction is political speech. Everything else is inconsequential. Why should I care if tabloids are protected from lawsuits?
its more than just tabloids being protected from lawsuits, 4chan would have been sued into oblivion by now for libel if those protections did not exist
you also are setting a dangerous precedent by saying that only "political speech" should be granted protection and all other speech is "inconsequential" because its that same government that decides what speech is political or not
>>79918071
lol
>>79924351
Gotta cut the stars from the stripes before you burn it so it's no longer considered a flag.
>you shouldn't be allowed to burn a 20 cent piece of linen and jute that was manufactured in china
get out of the us
mainland europe would be more your speed
microagressions aren't real and a metaphorical slap in the face is not the same as a real slap in the face
the only thing he should be charged with is looking like a poof tbqh
>>79916837
You guys are hypocrites. You were outraged at hello racist site. It's free speech! This guy is practicing his freedom of speech, expression. You guys sought have to have arrested to ruin his life. You guys are just as bad as sjws.
>>79916837
ARREST JULIE JENKINS FOR RACISM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>79916837
He bought a flag, now his property, he burned it. The end.
>>79934072
>Be american buy a flag
>Its now your property
>Wave it in your hand
>Get send to jail because flag was racist
Holy cuck
>Currently, flag burning is not illegal in the United States. The Supreme Court of the United States in its decision from 1969 has ruled that the burning of the flag is protected by the First Amendment. However, the person who burnt the flag can be found guilty of a misdemeanor for starting a fire without a permit.
Honestly, just give him 20 US flags to burn, maybe he'll die from inhaling toxic fumes like that mudslime once did.
>>79932876
>you
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