>RETARDED BREXIT PROTESTERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3Q5hHeb6k
>NIGEL'S FULL RESIGNATION SPEECH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-QwY0mZzuA
>LEADSOM IS POLLING AHEAD OF MAY
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/750008876850900994
>FASCIST MAY FORCES TELEGRAPH TO PULL ARTICLE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HER RECORD
http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/telegraph-pulled-article-critical-theresa-may-campaign-pressure/
>ANDREA LEADSOM: "FREE MOVEMENT WILL END", VOWS TO TRIGGER ARTICLE 50 "AS SOON AS SHE BECOMES PRIME MINISTER"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/03/tory-leadership-andrea-leadsom-says-she-can-be-the-new-margaret/
>THERESA MAY: TRADE WITH EUROPE "MUST BE A PRIORITY", WILL NOT INVOKE ARTICLE 50 BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-30/theresa-may-launches-tory-leadership-bid/
>LEAVE.EU BACKS LEADSOM FOR TORY LEADER
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/arron-banks-and-nigel-farage-s-leave-campaign-back-andrea-leadsom-for-tory-leader/story-29466185-detail/story.html
>TORY LEADERSHIP ELECTION: SENIOR MPS PLANNING ON FORCING REMAINER CRABB INTO SECOND PLACE AND THEN CONVINCING HIM TO LET REMAINER THERESA MAY RUN UNOPPOSED
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/senior-tories-plotting-bring-quick-end-leadership-contest/
>KEKWELL "WILL NOT STAND FOR LEADERSHIP AFTER NIGEL FARAGE"
https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/749942344498151424
>SCARED ANGELA EAGLE: "C-CORBYN PLEASE QUIT"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36693835
>CHILCOT: "BLAIR WON'T BE PUT ON TRIAL FOR WAR CRIMES BUT SOLDIERS MIGHT BE"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/02/outrage-as-war-crimes-prosecutors-say-tony-blair-will-not-be-inv/
>CHRIS EVANS ABANDONS TOP GEAR
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36707266
Posted the wrong one lads, my bad.
Nth for eternally frustrated Continentals
The pound is becoming like the zimbabwean dolllar, which means it's literally a meme currency. All brits will be 20% poorer because of thise idiots who voted brexit and guess who gets hit the hardest those who are the poorest won't be able to put food on the table and expect a lot more people to use foodbanks predictions are that by 2020 there will be 5 million foodbank users and the british gdp will be lower than spains gdp.
Ps the pound has already fallen 1 cents expect it to fall 4 cents by 18:00
Thanks a lot brexiteers, you all are morons
reminder that university must always be free
Nobody even knows what it means to be British. Our history means nothing to us and our culture has been lost.
This was the first one
>>>79899341
>>79899511
>How
Thatcher.
>>79899637
there is no such thing as british culture and never has been
>>79899587
why are you so butthurt about it?
>>79899511
Clement Attlee was the original Judas.
>>79899637
Join the club m88.
My willy tingles when I think of mummy.
>>79899637
To be British was planting a union jack in the plains of Africa and building hospitals and dams there.
>>79899587
What difference dies it make to you? We could turn into the next Somalia and all live in mud huts, and we'd still be a stronger country than fucking Sweden.
>>79899671
Have you seen it lad? It's shit. No links or nuffink.
>>79899411
How's the pound doing these days?
When is the migration-crisis going to pick up again, lads? I thought there would be full fledged hoards roaming the streets of Germanistan by now
Got called racist in greggs earlier, lads
>>79899771
Read this
>>79899587
>>79894935
I don't really care what happens to Europe. We are British, we like tea, we like fish & chips, doctor who, bowler hats, our lad, and drinking a can of stella on a law chair.
The Welsh like their Bread of Heaven,
The English like their Low-swinging Chariots
The Scots like blowing air into a bag
The Irish like their banjos and accordions
We each have our own cultures within the British Isles and we each respect that. We work together for common goals without infringing on each others fundamental ideals.
Europe does not.
I cannot identify with this intangible "European-ness" and therefore do not and CAN not work towards any resemblance of what it means to be a human with meaning.
We've worked this way for millennia, yes we'll fight, but we know we need each other too much to throw everything away. We do not and will never need Europe.
Hail Britannia.
>>79899754
If we turneed into somalia, sweden would suddenly love us
Friendly reminder: everytime the government tried to push through spending cuts and deregulation, it was blocked by the same Brexiteers who claim to want freedom.
Do you know who rebelled against Cameron on tax credits, disability allowance, Housing benefits NHS privatization etc? The same nanny state-loving socialists who then went on to blame Brussels for "red tape".
You people are unbelievable.
>>79899771
Back up to pre brexit lows
>>79899587
Why don't you take back your country cuckfriend instead of making a tit of yourself on the internet?
>>79899511
It's easy to vote conservative when you still have a job.
>>79899411
how does it feel to be an empire again, britbongistan?
>>79899637
I'm proud to be British. But I'm proud of my English and Norwegian heritage first. Regional ethnic nationalism is a force for good within the Unionist umbrella.
>>79899858
>doctor who
Shit since Eccleston left.
>>79899858
>we like doctor who
I'm out
>>79899511
Two Clements running, both cunts.
I feel like crying, May will be our next PM, one of you needs to Mair her up tbqfh pham.
Also I made this vidya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foG-m-3TVBg
I want to make britpol videos but i don't want to be a jewtube cuck, Anyone got any tips?
>>79899858
>I cannot identify with this intangible "European-ness"
>implying "Britishness" is not also intangible
There is no bond between us and Scotland. We are English and English alone.
>>79899924
Belgium is a non country
Some muslim called me racist in greggs earlier, lads
>>79899919
TOP FUCKING KEKEKEKEKEK
Is there a thread on this?
>>79899921
>I don't have a job, better vote to steal from the job creators to fill my pockets instead of voting to promote economic growth and find a job
Reminder that we have a mummy subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Andrea/
>>79899771
>>79899906
>Back up to pre brexit lows
>>79899984
>>79900068
We're you being a racist?
>>79900031
>>79899722
what's wrong with atlee?
>>79900043
This should be a hate crime
You anti Scottish racist
>>79900068
Ok whatever
>>79900068
Did you waggle your sausage roll at them?
>>79900000
>>79899774
There still are, there just aren't enough of them or enough weapons for them to do what they'd do if this were the middle ages and pitchforks were up there with military gear.
>>79899858
Please, it's just cuckoldry to spout this "Europe? Never heard of it" nonsense just because the EU is an enemy that needs smashing.
You know "Britishness", invoking Ireland, when the continent encroaches on the UK, are you seriously saying you don't see Europe when kebab and kike seek to destroy you as a European/white person?
>>79899919
That's outrageous!
None of the team members had a beard like that!
>>79900177
Yes
The uk is mincemeat the pound is down by 1% expect it to be down by 5% by 18:00
>>79900068
He was probably right, this is /pol/ afterall
>>79900162
He's technically correct, it's at a 31-year low against the US$.
>>79899894
How is that at all surprising? In a free market with minimum government intervention immigration would not be a problem. The reason people oppose immigration is because it puts a strain on government services, making a welfare state unsustainable.
>>79899924
Belgium is a non country, please stop these memes. they are kryptonite for superstitious autistits.
>>79900292
He was
>>79899673
This
Thatcher is called the 'midwife of devolution' because her alienation of the Scots did more to bring it about than anything else
>>79900255
Good lad. Carry on.
>>79899018
>You can assert this over and over, but it won't make it true.
The EU is the supreme executive, legislative and judicial authority over your country. If you try to take executive decisions, your referendums are ignored.
If your parliament makes a law that goes against EU directives, you can't enforce it. If the EU issues a directive that goes against one of your old laws, you have to repeal it. EU law spreads like cancer through your own common law, like a computer virus overwriting all the old data.
If the ECJ overrules your supreme court, your judges will lift up their robes and present their anuses.
The EU is your government and there's nothing you can do about them. You can't remove them. You can't vote in new ones. You can rationalise this to yourself if you wish, but your rationales will be treated with derision by actual free men.
Ireland is not a free country. You are living under tyranny. And they've brainwashed you to defend it futilely to free people on alt right HQ who will only laugh at your pathetic, risible cuckoldry.
>>79900300
It's hard when your country has to manage its own currency.
>>79900210
>implying we didn't offer N.Ireland only to find N.Ireland wanted to be with us because you guys are shit and cultural Marxists
>tfw N.Ireland stood up for its ideals and values and we backed that all the way
Fuck off commie.
>>79900031
How did you manage to find the only low-energy nigel speech?
Great video but horrific speech, please change it.
>>79900273
How long have you been in Sweden then Abdul? Bit chilly compared to the Arab states, eh?
>>79899924
Yeah you've posted this already you cock.
>>“During my campaign, I had come across a small number of (mostly) young men, who had strongly racist views. They told me they would only vote for a party that was willing to get rid of black and coloured people from this country. What struck me as strange is that they weren’t bothered about the thousands of white Europeans arriving from Central and Eastern Europe”
>>79900180
What's your username so I can add you on Reddit?
Some muslim lad called me racist in greggs earlier AMA
>>79900273
But we literally don't care. If the economy crashes, all our newfriends will have to go home. Who knows, we might even get a revolution out of it. It's win-win for us.
>>79900108
>I'm in charge of the economy. I'm going to ruin it and complain about the people who lash out at me, rather than keep it running and keep their support.
>>79900376
Didn't you hire a Canadian to run your currency?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU-cJ42BqC0
>>79900068
Tell us the story fám.
What did you do?
>>79899511
It's rather amazing that Atlee and Churchill stayed on as leaders for their parties despite losing GEs. What changed that we now demand the immediate resignation for every failure? Similar thing in football - managers used to be given time to fix ailing clubs and that meant a few stumbles before things improved, now they're expected to turn things around with less than half a season to work with.
>>79900386
Give me best Nige speeches please?
Like when he's going off in Euro parliament? They lack relevance don't they?
>>79900461
JimmyNeutron1488
>>79900527
>>79900474
I was racist
>>79900346
Most of this "alienation of the Scots" is the result of the left selling her policies as an attack on the Scottish.
Looking at the actual hostile elite (that were the opposition back then), a Unionist like Thatcher isn't anything comparable.
>>79900474
Full deets.
(Forgot to ask, it intrigued me).
hmmm...
>>79900604
I was being racist
>>79900431
>"But I dutifully gave all of them a good, long, soapy titwank like the good Christian I am and they all changed their views and agreed deportation was a more viable option to execution."
>>79899511
The Marxists raped us for 40 years anon, they raped us and we were left very confused.
>>79900547
24/7 news
>>79900617
If only I could read irrelevent languages.
The pound is down by 1.28 it used to be up 1.33 last day. Brits your economy is doomed. You are now 30% poorer before brexit.
>>79900592
Urgh you fool, you know you aren't allowed to address ethnics without being spoken to first?
>>79900617
Sweet cursive font!
>>79900377
That had nothing to do with what I was talking about, and you managed to make it completely wrong to boot.
>>79900632
Fuller deets.
>>79900745
Maybe the gypos will move over to Sveden, couldn't be happier
>>79900431
Does anyone have the context? I'd like to know if she went full 'das rayciss' on them.
>>79900303
Nanny states are unsustainable with or without immigrants. And it's surprising because Brexiteers won't shut up about "making trade deals with the world" which would actually imply making our economy more liberal and competitive.
These retards don't even know what they believe in. The truth is Brexit was only made possible because of Labour voters who are angry at how long the dole queue is.
>>79900431
>What struck me as strange is that they weren’t bothered about the thousands of white Europeans arriving from Central and Eastern Europe”
Yeah no shit. White EU migration is a non-issue for most voters. Unfortunately we can't be frank about our massive nigger and paki problem, so committing economic suicide by leaving the EU was the only cathartic exercise the government could provide.
>>79900431
I'll never understand the "Leadsom's a milf" meme, she looks like the lovechild of a horse and a burns victim
>>79900794
I said some racist stuff in greggs
>>79900210
Also, yes "Britishness" is doesn't really exist its just a term used to describe the common values of 4 cooperating countries - the primary value being the freedom to defend your culture and your own.
>>79899951
This
>>79900604
This doesn't change the fact that conservatism is a word said in hushed tones around Scotland, and the SNP only seem to get away with it by pretending that they're actually socialists, which somehow fools all the American-style liberals who don't actually care about politics and just want to feel good
>>79900577
Anything from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2l56RZhsI4
You can even use something from his victory speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EviHAI0GNPw
>>79899587
oh god the moron from the other thread is here
do behave mate
>>79900794
Thought i was replying to >>79899018 for some reason
>>79900841
What did you say, he who plagues the ethnic patrons of Gregory's Bakery?
>>79900374
>The EU is your government and there's nothing you can do about them. You can't remove them. You can't vote in new ones. You can rationalise this to yourself if you wish, but your rationales will be treated with derision by actual free men.
>how are the laws decided
>what is a parliament
>what is the European Parliament
>who's naming the European Commissioners
>how does cabinet-forming work in my country
>what is a government
>>79900513
any old beady eyed anglo will do
>>79900837
She's not meant to be a plastic titties, orange skin and peroxide blond hair """milf""", she's supposed to be someone you'd want to roger with the lights off and then cuddle up next to whilst she tells you how her latest church fundraiser went.
>>79901003
I was speaking to a muslim wearing a headscarf
>>79900816
http://www.andrealeadsom.com/working-for-you/andrea's-blog/racism--the-real-legacy-of-slavery/71
>>79900374
>The EU is the supreme executive, legislative and judicial authority over your country. If you try to take executive decisions, your referendums are ignored.
No and no. EU law and the CJEU are only supreme over national law in matters where the EU has competence and has legislated, i.e. where it is provided for in the treaties. In practice, this leave most matters to the Member States.
We don't hold "advisory referendums" like you do. Our referendums are on constitutional change - that is a proposed amendment to the constitution is put forward and we vote yes or no on it. If it passes, then the constitution is changed. The EU has no power over changes to our constitution, or any constitution for that matter.
>If your parliament makes a law that goes against EU directives, you can't enforce it. If the EU issues a directive that goes against one of your old laws, you have to repeal it. EU law spreads like cancer through your own common law, like a computer virus overwriting all the old data.
See above about areas where the EU can legislate, and also consider the fact that we have a part in the making of EU directives through our representation on the European Council, the Council of Ministers, the Commission and the Parliament.
On top of that, consider a scenario where Member States could override common rules between countries. It would mean that every country would end up with different rules, completely undermining the point of a directive or regulation in the first place. That's why they "overrule" domestic laws.
>If the ECJ overrules your supreme court, your judges will lift up their robes and present their anuses.
CJEU*
Once again, it only has power in matters of EU law. Unless there's EU law implications in domestic law, it has no power over domestic law.
That's also not how the Court of Justice works. It works on the basis of referrals, i.e. national courts refer questions of EU law to the CJEU for consideration.
1/2
>>79900745
The worse the economy is, the less doomed we are, since we don't care about shekels, only the survival of the tribe. Strong economies only attract disgusting shitskins like you ahmed. We literally don't lose whatever happens.
CHILCOT TODAY.
>>79899511
It's an interesting story. A lot of it isn't as loyal as you'd think.
Scotland's blue is misleading. They weren't voting Conservative, they were voting Unionist and National Liberal. They still had a distinct Scottish identity, and the waxing and waining of parties in Scotland can always be tied to that Scottish dimension. That did eventually naturally lead to the SNP though, because you can't out-Scot the party explicitly made for Scotland instead of the branch-office of a UK wide one.
The Unionists would promise that Labour's socialism would centralize away Scotland's unique identity, so they voted unionist with some Labour from the working class areas. Unionists merged with the Conservatives, damaging their unique identity and making Labour look more attractive because they would defend Scottish workers from southern tories. This cemented Labour, doubly so because of Thatcher. But Thatcher demonstrated Scotland can vote for whatever the hell it wants because nobody needs Scottish votes. Labour kept pushing "It'll be fine when we get a Labour government" and eventually we got one.
Unfortunately, that was a Blairite one, which stirred up voter apathy across the UK by narrowing the band of ideologies you can actually elect. By this point Holyrood existed, and the SNP made slow gains because Labour were almost criminally incompetent while the SNP had been studying very hard. Now, with a UK government invading Iraq and a complete shambles of a government at Holyrood in 2007, the SNP were able to get enough people to back them to put them one seat ahead of Labour.
From there, Labour was fucked. The SNP had a clear platform to make their case on (Holyrood) and Labour's narrative no longer made any sense. Why vote Labour to protect Scotland from English tories when Labour are beholden to English marginal seats? Why not vote for the only party that has no such secondary commitments: The one that only stands in Scotland?
>>79900841
oh god this is tedious
why are you posting this again
>>79899919
kek, this needs to be spread
>>79901133
But what did you say to your Arabian brethren?
>>79901204
Why am I posting what again
>>79901308
that post you made before
>>79901063
>how are the laws decided
>what is a parliament
>what is the European Parliament
BREAKING: THE EU PARLIAMENT IS NOT THE LEGISLATURE OF THE EU. THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION IS.
>who's naming the European Commissioners
>how does cabinet-forming work in my country
>what is a government
In my country the Government is made up of directly elected representatives, unlike in your shitty tinpot dictatorship.
>>79901204
Beats responding to that Swedish nonce whos shouting something about the pound in the background.
>>79900858
I know, I know, but Thatcher was demonised for being a conservative, and not for any honest reason.
>>79900846
>the primary value being the freedom to defend your culture and your own.
Because no one else ever did this, and because Britain is the centre of uncuckedness in the world.
Also, stop buying the "muh Anglo-Saxon freedums" narrative. Egalitarian, republican, and liberal bullshit was always shit, and we're just living the results of it.
It may sound convenient to an English chauvinist, but it makes you sound like an idiot who buys American euromutt condescension towards "the mother country" (when most of them are German).
>Britain collapses into economic depression
>All the brown people leave to get their bennies in EU instead.
>British NatSoc rises
>The White race is saved as British stormtroopers ravage the Eurabic Caliphate
It's a beautiful dream lads.
>>79901219
And I ordered a sausage roll and I happened to be looking at her as I picked it up
>>79900749
>>79901168
Wow, amazing answer m8. Thank you that makes a lot of sense.
>>79901360
what post
>>79900872
Holy shit, I listened to that one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EviHAI0GNPw
It's better, I don't know why I ruled it out. Ho hum, lessons learned. Thank-you for the other video though.
>>79901395
what did you do to induce the response that she gave?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/4rcp3n/andrea_leadsom_suggests_all_websites_currently_1/
They're attacking mummy, please downvote.
>>79901395
So you raped her too, eh?
>>79901136
>we should re-double our efforts to stamp out racism by improving understanding between school children.
So basically yes. Disappointing. Hopefully her views have changed since 2007.
>>79901395
Did you shove it up her?
>>79901363
>BREAKING: THE EU PARLIAMENT IS NOT THE LEGISLATURE OF THE EU. THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION IS.
>In my country the Government is made up of directly elected representatives
>>79901456
>>79901461
So then she said to me "what's that for" right
>>79901404
>>79901525
and what did you respond with?
>>79901491
The HoL is based. Made up of the reactionary elements you cucks threw off in 1789.
>>79901383
In yours dreams more like
>econmic depression
>poor brits starve
>5 miilion food bank users
>white brits migrate to poland for work(cleaning toilets)
>britain becomes recipient of foreign aid from the eu
>britain recovers pre brexit levels
>britain still 50% poorer
>5£ are now worth ¥
>>79901148
>No and no.
Yes and yes.
>we have a part in the making of EU directives
>we
Who we. You didn't vote for a single one of the EU legislators.
>It would mean that every country would end up with different rules
Yes, and what a crazy idea that is, to legislate in your own national interests, you know, like free countries do???
>>79900031
Just do whatever the fuck you want. I made one just for shitposting and ended up with over 300 subs.
Good work on the video btw, although like others said, something a little more stirring would be better suited.
Remind me why we're still awake lads, I can hear birds singing outside.
>>79901613
I started laughing hysterically because I realised what just happened
then the cashier got involved
>>79901525
Oh boy its getting to the good bit now.
>>79900374
>>79901148
>The EU is your government and there's nothing you can do about them. You can't remove them. You can't vote in new ones. You can rationalise this to yourself if you wish, but your rationales will be treated with derision by actual free men.
>The EU is your government and there's nothing you can do about them.
I don't deny that it is part of my government, but it's far from the biggest part.
>You can't remove them.
A new Commission is appointed by national governments and voted on by the directly-elected European Parliament every five years. The European Parliament itself is directly-elected every five years.
>Ireland is not a free country. You are living under tyranny.
A constitutional, democratic republic which is part of a union of 27 other democratic countries and with three different sources of human rights protection (the Irish constitution, the European Convention on Human Rights and the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union) baked into its law with three different courts to protect those rights (Irish Supreme Court, European Court of Human Rights and the Court of Justice of the European Union) is "not a free country" and I'm "living under tyranny" here. Right.
> And they've brainwashed you to defend it futilely to free people on alt right HQ who will only laugh at your pathetic, risible cuckoldry.
I suppose I should mention at this point I'm just after finishing a masters in EU law, hence why I'm immune to the bullshit that's peddled about it.
getting tired, gonna get to bed now, lads.
i'll finish my greggs story tomorrow
>it's literally against international law to deport people who came here legally
We're fucked aren't we
>>79901723
What had just happened anon?
I NEED TO KNOW
>>79901378
>It may sound convenient to an English chauvinist, but it makes you sound like an idiot who buys American euromutt condescension towards "the mother country" (when most of them are German).
What did it mean by this?
>>79901491
Hey mate, I dunno if you heard the news, but we're leaving the EU.
>>79901420
No problem.
It's not quite that simple though, there are other concurrent factors too, though they are more complex and less uniquely Scottish (but with effects on Scotland.)
For example in the days of empire, Scotland could see Britain had a clear purpose in the world. Even after that started to wane, national (or nationally branded) industry and other things, along with social welfare also helped to solidify British identity and a sense of Britishness. After de-industrialization that was lost too, eventually to multinational corporations.
I feel it'd be too harsh to call it the decline of Britain outright, but it's something along those lines. Britain dismantled a lot of the things that helped contribute to a sort of social bedrock (whether it was viable to keep them is of course debatable), which also makes the idea of Scotland going her own way more imaginable, especially as the SNP have been refining an image of what Scotland could be for decades while most recent British political leaders have lacked one.
With some conjecture, I would hypothesise the same has happened in England, with the rise of quasi-English national sentiment too. You can sort of see it in the generalized nostalgia of what Britain used to be, as appeared in the EU referendum.
>>79901798
Oh you tease.
Lads how can I reconcile my Atheism with a belief in Christian morals? I've been on a Hitchens binge lately and I agree with him on almost everything except for adherence to theism.
>>79901893
I'll be fucking waiting lad.
I'm on the edge of my seat here.
I love a good gregs tale
>>79901698
HAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAH
>>79901937
Plenty of atheists are culturally Christian.
>>79901700
>Who we. You didn't vote for a single one of the EU legislators.
I voted for MEPs from my European Parliament constituency, I voted representatives into my national legislature which go on to represent the country in the Council of the EU (aka the Council of Ministers) and our prime minister represents the country in the European Council. Additionally, Ireland's Commissioner in the EU Commission was appointed by our democratically-elected government.
So as it happens, we voted for several in several different EU bodies.
>>79901700
>Yes, and what a crazy idea that is, to legislate in your own national interests, you know, like free countries do???
That's fine if you want that, but if you want international trade you need common rules that everyone abides by.
>>79901937
Just say you're a christian then.
Who the fuck is gonna strike you down if you renounce atheism?
>>79901937
>Lads how can I reconcile my Atheism with a belief in Christian morals?
They are a useful tool for society, to a degree.
I maintain that christianity and it's turn the other cheek bullshit is part of why the west became so cucked.
>>79901754
>it's far from the biggest part.
It is the supreme part, and it's not getting smaller. Enjoy the ride.
>
A new Commission is appointed by national governments and voted on by the directly-elected European Parliament every five years. The European Parliament itself is directly-elected every five years.
That's not a democracy. That's almost identical to the USSR constitution.
>Right.
Right.
>I'm immune
>masters in EU law
>immune
A brainwashed drone. You have no idea what a relief it is that mindless cucks like you have no more power over my country.
I dont want to keep you guys waiting
so I calm myself down after laughing hysterically for a minute and the cashier starts hitting my change on the top of the thingy to get my attention
the muslim women is almost in tears now as ive been laughing like a madman after the sausage roll incident
now this is where things get tense
>>79901438
No problem. Again I think your video is great overall, it's just the speech that fucks it up. If you put a high energy nigel speech in there instead I'm sure you'll get tons of views and it will gain in popularity.
>>79901721
>I can hear birds singing outside.
So can I, I'm surprised the seagulls are louder than the chucklefucks leaving the clubs
>>79902026
Did you know that it costs like 7 quid for a double vodka in Sweden. Trying to get me and the lads smashed there on a night out cost me near £150
does anyone here want me to finish?
>>79901754
>immune to the bullshit
So, fully immersed then.
>>79902164
But then how were we so great in the middle ages? Did we just not read the Bible properly?
>>79902041
>appointed
That's not a democracy.
>if you want international trade you need common rules that everyone abides by.
You don't need a globalist superstate for that.
>>79902041
>if you want international trade you need common rules that everyone abides by.
Everyone else manages fine without the supranational governments
What time is the Chilcot report out?
>>79902280
no wonder they are all miserable cucks
Watching the pound plummet hurts so bad. When will it stop?
>>79901458
That's a stupid thing to say.
Like another anon said, I don't think she's attractive, I think she looks like some old near-grandmother who got into politics as a hobby and doesn't have the breadth of knowledge required for leadership.
Plus, she's a woman, so that's a negative quality.
>>79901681
Who are the HOL?
Also, I asked for book recommendations last thread, and someone who hates muh French Revolution as much as I do probably has some good ones.
>>79901798
"I was racist and then I left".
The end.
>>79901853
You think American Euromutts, most of whom get their conception of Britain directly from Hollywood and anti-British democratic left-wing cuckery, and rewrite British and world history so that "Anglo-Saxons" (of whom the Euromutt Americans are assigned leadership, of course) are "G-d's Chosen People" for the spreading of democracy and muh freedums across the world.
You may think yourself redpilled, but if you take democracy seriously, you're the most basic of bitches.
>>79901937
Cosmological argument.
You must serve something.
If there's no highest power, your service means nothing, and you're reduced to a leftist, hedonist degenerate.
>>79902055
False faith is as bad as no faith.
At the end of the day, though, you either believe or don't believe.
>>79901937
Christianity, at it's core is simply the belief that if you live a good, moral life, then you will be rewarded for it. God is superfluous to the christian belief system.
Think of it this way, the christian way of life *is* God, you place your trust in the way of life, and the good feeling you get from living a moral life is the reward, essentially, the theists heaven is your good life.
I'm not very good at explaining but do you understand? You place your faith in the christian life, rather than the christian God, and you rely on this life to reward ypu with happiness and fulfillment just as God would reward you with heaven.
>>79901887
All very true. Would you say there is still a chance for England to win back the Scots favor?
I personally don't think they will be able to leave even if they tried, but it's dangerous to have a kingdom as divided as the UK right now.
>>79899924
Belgium is a non country
>>79902375
actually I was wrong, it cost 140 kronor, which is about £12. Fucking unreal lad.
>>79902165
>That's almost identical to the USSR constitution.
That's virtually identical to the UK institutions and every other members', you fucking braindead.
>>79902294
always lad
>>79902280
>£7
How the fuck does anyone justify that and then shit on the quid?
It's still two quid a pint here, good times.
>>79902164
>I maintain that christianity and it's turn the other cheek bullshit is part of why the west became so cucked.
When Europe was Christian, we ruled the earth. When church attendances started falling, suddenly our cities are full of muslim shitskins. That's not a coincidence.
>>79902332
>Did we just not read the Bible properly?
Yes.
The white man of the past still had his ferocity, but over the ages it has been chipped away and now we are mostly toothless.
>>79902461
ok so then I meet eyes with the cashier
the cashier is really pissed
green with anger
and then he says
"that sausage roll is gonna be tree-piddy you racist"
the end
>>79901383
>implying a NatSoc nation would ever invade
>implying NatSoc isn't about respecting and competing with other cultures and just wanting to get on with your own people instead of fighting.
>>79902448
fuck me
>>79901937
Let your atheism find its real bottom.
>>79902164
Didn't stop Europe at any other point in time
I maintain it was liberal ideology with their individualism and laissez-faire capitalism, compounded with the World Wars
>>79902436
Why? Scotland is an economic drain. England can only gain from them leaving.
>>79902340
You do realise the Prime Minister and his government in the UK are appointed by representatives, right?
It's litterally the same thing. Elected heads of state are appointing the Commission, which the elected Parliament have to vouch for.
>>79902428
>Christianity, at it's core is simply the belief that if you live a good, moral life, then you will be rewarded for it.
Ephesians 2:9
>it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast.
You can only be saved through faith. Performing good deeds and living a moral life is wonderful but that is not how we reach our salvation. Faith and faith alone lad.
>>79902695
How was the world not individualist before?
>>79902459
No it's not. In the UK the people elect Parliament (legislature) directly. The majority party in Parliament forms the Government (executive). The oldest and most successful parliamentary democracy in the world has nothing to learn from you Continental cucks. You don't value democracy like we do. That's why we have to leave. Sorry, we tried, but you wouldn't listen.
>>79902602
top tier anon.
If you get up to any more antics in Gregs I'd love to hear about them.
>>79902753
This is coming form the standpoint that God doesn't exist, if you believe he does exist then my post is wrong, but if you don't believe he exists then what I said makes sense.
>>79902400
>Who are the HOL?
>Also, I asked for book recommendations last thread, and someone who hates muh French Revolution as much as I do probably has some good ones.
House of lords. Our upper house. It's comprised of bishops, hereditary aristocrats and old party loyalists. They basically just strike down any law that's bullshit. For example, when the Tory government have tired to bring in unwarranted internet censorship they told them to fuck off.
The left hate them though, because they're unelected.
Also, I have no book suggestions because I don't read books.
>>79902820
The Great Chain of Being
>>79902865
The only problem with this democracy is the Westminster system.
Look out lads the brussels Eurocrats are coming to regulate the length of brit/pol/ posts, who will save us?
FIIIIRE IN THE EYEEEEEEEE
REALM MYSTIC MAAAAAAAAJESTYEEEEEEEEYYY
>>79902400
>You think American Euromutts, most of whom get their conception of Britain directly from Hollywood and anti-British democratic left-wing cuckery, and rewrite British and world history so that "Anglo-Saxons" (of whom the Euromutt Americans are assigned leadership, of course) are "G-d's Chosen People" for the spreading of democracy and muh freedums across the world.
M8 i'm a welsh boy from the valleys. I work on a building site and sing in a male voice choir. Just because i watch American TV doesn't mean i want to be American. I'm fucking proud as fuck to be Welsh. To me, the most honorable person isn't John McClain, its a coal-faced miner who would work himself into the ground for his family and friends.
You ever hear a paki say he wants to be white? Fuck no, hes proud of his heritage and culture.
Just because you have no values and seek to get them from the Jewish Times doesn't mean we all do. Its why Wales voted to leave. Its also why Scotland voted to Remain - like 90% of Scot culture is to fuck with the English.
>>79902695
>Didn't stop Europe at any other point in time
Not alone, Christianity just laid out the carpet for more insidious forces. Christianity is about being a doormat at its core., an early but noticeable point on the slippery slope to cucking.
>>79902428
>God is superfluous to the christian belief system.
>Mark 12
>28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
>29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
>30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
>31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
GBP looks floored for now. Could've been worse.
>>79902865
See >>79902739
It's the same thing and you don't even realise.
I think I can see now why the leave campaign worked that well.
>>79902753
>Sola Fide
>Picture of consecration of the Eucharist
u wot m8
>>79902006
I too, have visited a Gregg's. And I too, have a story to tell.
>>79903090
Well said Daffyd, well said.
>>79902713
I suppose I support a continuation of the union because of tradition. You've been in union for over 300 years and together you fought two world wars. I'm not very concerned with economics, I value the tradition of that union and keeping together the brave countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
>>79902987
Oh yes, sorry. I didn't see that you were arguing from that point of view.
I believe in god and I see Christianity a tad different but I have nothing against those who wish to live a christian life even if they simply wish to adopt the ethics and not the spiritual aspect of it. Although I encourage everyone to eventually adopt the spiritual side of Christianity.
>>79903090
>miner
>work himself into the ground
What a Cornish joke!
Lads why exactly are English people such self hating cunts?
Being a Welshman, I find it truly absurd that most of you are ashamed of your culture, history and flag ffs.
>>79903155
>Not buying GBP vs EUR
>Not being the anti-Soros
>>79902165
>It is the supreme part, and it's not getting smaller.
Once again, you keep asserting that but it doesn't make it true. It's supreme over domestic law in EU law matters only, which is a limited.
>That's not a democracy. That's almost identical to the USSR constitution.
In what way? Can you draw even a single parallel?
>A brainwashed drone. You have no idea what a relief it is that mindless cucks like you have no more power over my country.
I see you and your comrades >>79902323 are going for the Govian "we've had enough of experts" brand of anti-intellectualism, are we? Shame, I thought for a minute or two we could debate on facts.
>>79902340
>>appointed
>That's not a democracy.
Not every position in a democracy is directly-elected. Central bankers (e.g. the governor of the Bank of England), prime ministers, cabinet ministers, senators (or lords, in the UK's case) are often appointed by directly-elected representatives. In the EU's case, directly-elected governments appoint commissioners subject to a vote by the directly-elected European Parliament.
>>79902367
Some do, some don't. NZ and Switzerland have extensive bilateral trade agreements that have taken decades to build up that result in similar regulations. Other countries find it easier to group into blocs and come up with common rules together, like the EU, EFTA, ASEAN, NAFTA etc. Sure, you get edgy /pol/ types calling you the fucking New World Order or something if you go down the latter route, but on the other hand you save a lot of time and energy by negotiating one framework instead of dozens.
>>79902164
Since Brexit i've actually joined a Church - i don't believe in God, but i believe in the attitudes towards family and community the Church promotes. I may not believe in God and keep that to myself, as also any decent believer would.
Also being part of a community thats willing to help one another opens up so many opportunities to you.
>>79903224
Yea I clicked on the wrong picture, meant to hit the protestant flag
>>79903274
Ho there weary pilgrim of Gregory's. Spin us a yarn of your exploits in that forsaken bakery.
>>79903143
He fell for it.
Post some comfy Nige videos before bed, lads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtBdiNghl7c
>>79903285
Before the union, the kingdom of England existed independently for a thousand years.
>>79902294
I will hold my breath until you tell it.
>>79902461
I don't think it's a currency thing, it's Swedish government taxes and regulations placed on the alcohol.
At least one of the Scandinavian governments had or had state monopolies on alcohol.
That's like a nightmare.
>>79902587
It's the other way around.
People hate God and love faggots and invaders.
Making a chauvinist version of a degenerate society will not save it, or make it worth saving.
>>79902613
>Historically blindfolded: the post
>>79902753
You're right in telling the other anon that a godless Christianity is useless, but "faith alone" leads to absurdities.
Also, the "soundbites from scriptures" approach of Protestantism annoys me.
>James 2:26
I don't want to argue with Protestants who'll bitchslap atheists and degenerates, but one thing that made me hate "faith alone" was seeing the vulgar Protestantism of Jack Chick in his tracts parodied by Morrakiu, pretty funny stuff, even though his politics were so basic back then.
>>79903014
Oh, okay.
I'm reading a weird old 1920s anthropology book by Maurice R Davie, it's both funny about how people (left and even "far" or "alt" right) have forgotten what pre-civilisational life was like (muh Vikings were trve Aryans), and disturbing when you think how most people for most of history lived in what Victorian Christians would call "benighted darkness".
>>79903072
A real human bean?
>>79902713
Stay mad English wanker.
We are never leaving. We all have British passports
>>79903520
Brit/pol/ would be a lot better if the subsets of the UK had their own flags. t b h
>>79903090
I lost my virginity to a Welsh bird on a caravan holiday. I was 14 at the time and met her there, she had black hair and, I shit you not, a gap in her front teeth. She couldn't have been more Welsh if she'd tried. Sadly I never saw her again as I forgot to bring my phone (this was before they could do cool shit so I didn't think anything of it) but I didn't know my number off by heart so I couldn't give her it.
I cry thinking about it sometimes, she was a lovely person and I would non ironically have wanted her as my wife. We went back every year but I never did see her again.
>>79903285
I'm undecided on the God question. But I see providence as being something that people could believe in rather than God
>>79902602
Bloody thrilling read mate! I reckon you've got a bestseller on your hands.
>>79901383
Yet it is only a dream
What will probably actually happen:
>May become pm on a 60-40 majority
>negotiates a free movement for single market deal with Das Merkelreich
>economic instability subsides
>Migration goes on as usual
>UK majority nonwhite by 2100AD
Sorry friends
>>79903635
flags were a mistake
>>79903520
Good. The loyal ones can come down south and help us outbreed the shitskins, while the traitors can rot in their leftist hellhole.
>>79903635
Nah. Then I wouldn't be able to falseflag as a Brit
>>79903374
Also this is why the Jews succeed so much. They only trust their own.
>>79903437
I'm very aware of that but the union is the last remnant of Britain's greatest moment in history--that being of the greatest empire that ever was.
To break that final union simply because of economics seems silly to me.
>>79903503
>Also, the "soundbites from scriptures" approach of Protestantism annoys me.
Yes I agree, I try to avoid doing that but I believed in this case the ephesians quote was fitting.
>made me hate "faith alone" was seeing the vulgar Protestantism of Jack Chick in his tracts parodied by Morrakiu, pretty funny stuff, even though his politics were so basic back then.
I'm not a fan of him either. I'm not your typical protestant. I respect Catholics and I admire their dedication to the religion even though we disagree on some doctrine.
I don't watch televangelists or read modern BS that is published for money by the leading protestant churches here in the states. I belong to a very traditional conservative congregation that spends time each week actually reading through the bible and discussing its meanings and lessons.
>>79903636
Remember her name lad? If so I seem to remember there being a site where you can find literally anyone on planet earth and instantly connect with them again. Don't know what it's called though... myspace I think?
>>79903503
>It's the other way around.
>People hate God and love faggots and invaders.
No. Today's man is surely worse than man at Chrisendom's height in Europe, but that doesn't mean Christianity is not a religion of proto-cucks. Christianity teaches you to be meek and accepting, this in turn made it easier for more dangerous ideologies to spread.
What type of tea do you cunts drink?
I drink Tetley's or Yorkshire.
Darjeeling when I have guests, or family round. In a proper pot.
Fucking reminder that coffee is for queers, Americans and French.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tW0QqiT2LU
>>79903636
Yeah Welsh birds are munters desu. Sadly as a 99% white country we didn't receive any of the benefits of "cultural enrichment"
>>79903716
>rot in their leftist hellhole
That isn't happening, not on my watch. By ballot, or by bullet.
Taigs of Brit/pol/, why do you think your average IQ is so much lower than Britains?
Genuinly not trying to start shit, I just want to know if you attribute it to lack of Germanic genetics or the famine or what.
>>79903925
coffee or water
>>79903852
And basically every other race apart from White people to a certain degree. People just exploit our altruism while maintaining their own in-group preferences.
>>79903340
Sorry man I totally forgot the NAFTA parliament, NAFTA central bank, NAFTA Court of Human Rights, NAFTAdollar and of course the freedom of movement enjoyed by Canada, Mexico and the US
How silly of me
>>79903381
I purchased a baked confectionery product! It had fruit preserve inside of it!!!
Apologies if these have already been posted
Starkey vs Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cevm18cUI24
Hitchens vs Penny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1OdRzJj_k4
>>79902739
>You do realise the Prime Minister and his government in the UK are appointed by representatives, right?
No. They. Are. Not. The Government is formed by the majority party in Parliament after a general election. The leader of the majority party, who will become PM, is elected in both the main parties by the membership, which is open to anyone and everyone in the country. Every single person EVERY LAST ONE of the people who make up the British executive and legislature have been directly elected by the people. That is called a democracy. There is not one serious person in the world who will say the UK is not a democracy, even if they think it's not perfect.
However, having appointed bureaucrats drafting and executing your laws is NOT a democracy. How do they get appointed? What is their affiliation? Whom are they accountable to? No one fucking knows. That is not a tolerable constitution for free men.
>>79903918
Jane was her first name, I can't remember her last name or if she even told me it. I wouldn't want to do that anyway, she's probably forgotten me, like I should have her.
>>79903958
she was beautiful ;_;
Do you guys think Daniel Radcliffe is a cunt or just a twat?
He's starring in some (((movie))) about "neo-Nazis" who shoot coalburners and dress up like Klansmen.
>>79880849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlhg2lRj-a4
I'd like to see a movie about a NEET fapping to anime and trolling GOP consultants into suicide desu.
Bonus points if Ryan Gosling starred.
>>79903912
Good stuff m80.
>>79903920
You're wrong about that.
Tolerance is a "virtue" of an anti-Christian ideal.
Christians only adopted it so they'd stop killing each other because of heretical division.
Then degenerates, edgelords, and Jews extended it to all sorts of deviancy.
>>79904168
If she fucked a 14 year old she was probably a mess.
>>79904316
She was the same age. Or atleast, she said she was.
>>79902436
It's hard to say. There's not much real precedent for something like this.
My gut feeling now is that losing a second independence referendum would be the end of serious discussion of independence, but at the same time I'm not sure if that's entirely accurate. My not-so-educated view on Quebec is that there are limited lessons to be learned for Scotland, both because Quebec nationalism is less open (Because of the linguistic barrier) and because I can't see the SNP making controversial comments about "money and ethnic votes" just after losing when promising there'd be another referendum, making it possible they could get a third. The SNP rejected information-exchange with Quebec nationalists during the 2014 referendum, so it's possible they're of the same view.
Still, you never know what could happen. In 2003 the SNP actually lost seats (they promised to raise taxes to improve services. Doubly silly because at the time Labour were handing money back to Westminster, while engaging in ruinous PFI schemes at the council level. i.e. they had essentially free money available yet still took out a payday loan.) yet by 2007 they were the government, under a man who'd promised he would categorically refuse to run as SNP leader. ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3895575.stm )
I'm not so sure secession would be a bad thing though. If the Britain people want cannot be recovered, and a new sense of national purpose cannot be discovered, perhaps Scotland and England should seek separate destinies as independent friends.
>>79902713
Scotland isn't as much of a drain as you'd think. In 2012 it was outperforming the UK as a whole. It's only relatively recently that it became a true drain.
Furthermore, by that kind of logic Scotland really should have left in 1979, given the UK government predicted privately they could be "the Kuwait of the west" and "in a position to lend to England for a very long time" with such a large budget surplus "as to be embarrassing"
>>79904402
Still, she's probably a mess.
You know she's statistically more likely to have a niglet at this point than a chaste girl.
>>79904073
Is Robert Harris' Cicero series any good?
>>79904073
Why do they ALWAYS pick the absolute most SHIT bints? I'm not even sexist, there's fucking plenty of cool women to have, but they seem to not be able to find them. Fucking hell.
Also
>That disgusting tranny who called Starkey a privileged white man
Starkey is man who was born into poverty. He had TWO (2) clubbed feet. He was gay at a time when it was illegal. He managed to get into a top-tier uni on nothing but his own strength and intelligence. Someone needs to kick that things teeth in.
>>79904022
Gadzooks! A baked confectionary from a bakery?! And you say they put pulped fruit inside of it? What kind of maverick...no, what kind of madcap fool would do such a thing?
>>79904073
I still can't handle that LGBT activist shouting down to a gay academic.
>>79904527
I don't think they get niggers in Wales. She wasn't a chav or owt, her parents had a proper massive RV and wore jumpers.
>>79903984
Never had a clue why tbqh. We have a pretty decent education system and high rates of university attendance and generally people seem pretty informed and on the ball about things. There isn't much of an anti-intellectual streak to our national psyche either as much as some other countries.
That being said, I come from a very middle class background where 95% of my social and family circle went to private schools and good universities. Thinking about the shitter areas of Dublin and some places down the bog, it wouldn't shock me if the majority of the residents of those places had double-digit IQs.
There's also the fact that there's pretty much a constant brain drain. Emigrants these days tend to be educated professionals while unskilled workers stay at home.
That's my guess at it anyway.
>>79904008
I never equated any of the trade blocs I mentioned. I merely listed them as examples of countries grouping together. Obviously the EU is more tightly integrated NAFTA, ASEAN or EFTA (back in the day).
>NAFTA Court of Human Rights
Two things about this:
1) the European Court of Human Rights has nothing to do with the EU. It's a body of the Council of Europe, which predates the EU and is basically like a mini-UN for Europe. Every European country save for Belarus is in the CoE and ECHR.
2) There's an Inter-American Court of Human Rights
>>79904316
>You're wrong about that.
Jesus Christ allowed himself to be nailed to some planks until he died despite wielding phenomenal power.
This is what's happening to white people today.
Jesus came back, but that's the rub, we wont.
>>79903920
>Christianity teaches you to be meek and accepting
So does buddhism to an even greater extent. Do you see any China or Japan getting cucked any time soon? Under Christianity, Europe was strong and homogeneous, because it had certainty in its moral superiority. It had higher ideals and virtues such as honour, duty, loyalty. It had a shared frame of reference. And the book it was based on told the story of how an ethno-nationalist state maintained its homogeneity through enslavement, domination by empires, diaspora and two thousand years of persecution in foreign lands.
Post-Christian society has lost all these things. No higher ideals or virtues. No common lore. No reason to do anything but eat, sleep, fuck, take drugs and die.
>>79903993
Coffee is a drink for wankers.
Water is good. So long as it's tap water and not French shite.
You need to drink tea. It is a patriotic drink and every sip is a blessing to Her Majesty.
>>79904527
Not if Welsh
>>79904073
How sick must Jon Snow be of those jokes?
>>79904761
>what is sacrifice
>what is martyrdom
>if you don't flee death like a puppy that's been kicked, you're a cuck bro
Please, "pagan" gods were actual planks of wood that allowed themselves to get chopped up, and didn't even come back.
And atheists have nothing to stand for past the point it becomes inconvenient.
Christianity is the true religion, and even if it weren't, it's a hell of a lot better than the "alternatives" racist leftists scrape up to cement over the grave their non-racist counterparts buried our civilisation in.
>>79904837
Made me kek desu.
>>79904804
>Do you see any China or Japan getting cucked any time soon?
If they are to embrace buddhism, yes.
>Post-Christian society has
I'm not saying post-Christian society is better, I'm saying Christianity was a step on the stairs to today's cuckdom.
>teenage pregnancy is at an all time low
>people still consider our society degenerate
hmmmm
>>79904465
>I'm not so sure secession would be a bad thing though. If the Britain people want cannot be recovered, and a new sense of national purpose cannot be discovered, perhaps Scotland and England should seek separate destinies as independent friends.
I see your point. However wouldn't there be some cultural damage to the island if Scotland were to leave? It is literally difficult for me to imagine a world without the UK.... It feels like total regression to me. But maybe that's where we are now and it can't be helped?....
Should I join UKIP lads? I know Nige is gone and the referendum won but I'd really like a vote on who will succeed him. What does it even mean being a 'member' of UKIP though and can I do it without revealing my power level? I live in a very 'diverse' area and wouldn't want acquaintances to know.
>>79904757
>I never equated any of the trade blocs I mentioned
Yes that is literally what you did unless you decided to talk to me about trade blocs without any impetus.
I said that you don't need a supranational government to do international trade, the EU isn't there for easy market access, that's just the carrot on the stick for a pile of unwanted, unneeded bullshit
