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will the irish take back northern ireland now?
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No.
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>>79886412

Only if Ireland itself is a functioning, sober country.
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Its too late for that. what they need to do is increase military spending and get ready for the war in a few years. they are going to be on the front lines. Them, spain, and poland are in for a world of shit, and i dont want to see them go down.
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>>79886996
>Only if Ireland itself is a functioning, sober country.

functioning enough to fuck shit up badly

irish are good at that
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>>79886412
No, they can't even take back their own country.
Hopefully the entirety of the island is re-united with the UK
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>>79887126
>they are going to be on the front lines.

who says? America?

>>79887184
>No, they can't even take back their own country.
>Hopefully the entirety of the island is re-united with the UK

how exactly are they going to manage the border between RoI and N. Ireland now?
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>>79886412

I hope not.


>how exactly are they going to manage the border between RoI and N. Ireland now?
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>>79886412
we don't want it pls stop the memes
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>>79889345
>I hope not.

why would an irishman oppose it?

>>79889457
>we don't want it pls stop the memes

are you a British nobility shill?
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>>79886412
We don't want it man.

>>79886996
Guess not.
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>>79889892
Pls stop with the obvious muh heritage stuff you're making us all look bad
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>>79889926
>We don't want it man.

>>79889997
>Pls stop with the obvious muh heritage stuff you're making us all look bad

no one is explaining WHY Ireland wouldn't want it.

it would actually make ireland into a militarily defensible country. they would have far more independence and actually be able to wave a stick for once.

any idiot irishman would want N. ireland back.

these are BRITISH SHILLS:

>>79889997
>>79889926
>>79889457
>>79889345

give me one good reason.
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>>79889997
>Pls stop with the obvious muh heritage stuff you're making us all look bad

Im not Irish at all. no irish heritage.
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>>79889892
just because you are 1/64th irish doesn't mean you get whats going on
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>>79890300
>just because you are 1/64th irish doesn't mean you get whats going on

IM NOT IRISH
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>>79886412
They are currently in their sixth attempt to take it by force, but it's pretty tame nowadays.
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>>79890500
>They are currently in their sixth attempt to take it by force, but it's pretty tame nowadays.

but the game has now changed mr bond #Brexit

the EU might even SUPPORT the IRA at this point
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>>79890203
To put it simply Northern Ireland is a financial blackhole that the Republic wouldn't be able to support.

Even worse is that than half of Northern Ireland are Loyalists, and about half of them again hardliners that would resort to all kind of unholiness to refute any sense of Irishness or the government in Dublin taking control.

Those fuckers are twice as mad as the IRA.

Those are the two bigger reasons.
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>>79890203
>>79890254
Well okay then, ask yourself why the average citizen in a Western country wouldn't want bombs going off and shootings occurring from groups that would likely be more radical now then they were in the past if they saw a resurgence.

There's also cultural divides at this point that would make it a lot closer to conquest of foreign people than reuniting peoples for a large portion of the population.

Any Irishman correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my interpretation of it.
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>>79890828
>Northern Ireland is a financial blackhole

subtract the english influence

deny the english their rights to irish property

give it to the loyalists and the irish state

WIN
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>>79890998
>loyalists

loyalists meaning those loyal to ireland

>>79890957

many of these things take on far less meaning when everyone is suddenly broke
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youre not even irish heritage op

why did you make this thread
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>>79891110

no
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>>79890998
Oh shit why didnt we think of that? A clear and elegant answer.

Its just so fucking simple!
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>>79890998
You can say you're not a person with Irish heritage all you want, but at the very least you're a hardline potatoboo with a very limited understanding of a nuanced, longstanding problem in a region that's not your own.
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what would be the best way to get the militant cucks out of both places
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>>79891198
>Its just so fucking simple!

youre an northern irish crypto-anglo fag arent you?
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>>79891382
>what would be the best way to get the militant cucks out of both places

give them massive loans

which is exactly what the EU did

did the same thing in Cyprus
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>>79891557
I'm just saying the situation is abit more complicated than youre giving it credit for.

I'd personally love to see an United Ireland someday, but the price is too high at the moment.

Right now theres a hard fought peace in the North, and no one wants to lose it.
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>>79891821
>Right now theres a hard fought peace in the North, and no one wants to lose it.

YOU ARE NORTHERN IRISH.

pretty sure the rest of Ireland wants that land back so they can defend their nation and actually have balls.
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>>79892117
>pretty sure the rest of Ireland wants that land back so they can defend their nation and actually have balls.

Are you literally twelve years old?
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>>79892258
>Are you literally twelve years old?

are you literally believing that your shitty pseudo country obtained through English economic warfare is going to somehow remain despite all this?
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>>79892542
>People in the Republic don't really care anymore.

wait until the Euro implodes mates.
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>>79892430
I believe that there are no current designs on my shitty pseudo country which you seem very interested in despite the fact you think its a shitty pseudo country, so yes, I do believe that this shitty pseudo country can carry on "remaining" being what it is alittle while longer despite all this.
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>>79892807
>And when that happens the economy of the Republic is in the toilet.

yep and then they get militant

>>79892542
>aside from some working class chavs.

more chavs for the IRA
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>>79886412
Ullstaðir - The God Ull(wool)'s place

A place near here is also named after the God Ull
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>>79892863
>alittle while longer

2 years tops
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>>79892966
Sure, if you say so.
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>>79892117
m8 Norns a fucking kip 70% of the employment is state jobs the people are chav cunts, the entire country looks like an open air council house estate, and anyway we can already defend our country
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>>79893045
>we can already defend our country

so if Britain joins the "nordic union" is there going to be a nordic union base in Northern Ireland?
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>>79889926

Hehe top kek..

Ireland take Northern Ireland, Scotland leaves to be part of EU. Wales leaves to be fully independent and sells Wool and Coal at 1000% increase. As an Englishman would be a tad saucy.
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>>79893205
>As an Englishman would be a tad saucy.

hope you like curry and allah mate
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>>79893045
Belfast and the surrounding towns are pure shite, but the North coast and countryside is nice.
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>>79893205
You guys deserve a break, just bear in mind that this time you wont have anyone to blame for losing money.
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>>79893358
>Belfast and the surrounding towns are pure shite, but the North coast and countryside is nice.

omg you ppl are so fucking demented

all you can understand about northern ireland are how well kept the beaches are and how good the restaurants are.

wow millenials are in for a rude awakening.
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>>79893205
it must suck to live in a country so crammed, that you lit just can't go outside a few meters or drive a couple of kms after agreement with landowner(farmer) to clear and take some firewood. To actually depend on coal.
Man 4 mill out! to many peoples
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>>79893189
as long as that "Nordic Union" doesn't step foot on Republic soil then nobody gives a fuck
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>>79893484
god fucking damnit missing blue cross, no that's enough... bed... fucking danes fucking with ip ranges, prolly trying to get our fish somehow
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>>79893478
I fucking live in Belfast you spastic.
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>>79893484

how much wood do you believe denmark has?

virtually all of Europe is crowded esp. denmark

>>79893591
>as long as that "Nordic Union" doesn't step foot on Republic soil then nobody gives a fuck

haha ya man that's gonna work out real fucking well, hope the Nordic Union doesnt accidentally let terrorists and other undesirables past your border.
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>>79886412
I hate Americans so much.

Jesus Christ.
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>>79893449
>>79893339
>>79893484

You guys are so mean, At least we saved the Celtic race... right...right?
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>>79893719
hes not even a heritagefag either im suprised unless he is lying
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Thing is most Brits don't care about Northern Ireland as to whether it's a part of the U.K. or not other than apart a minority of Southern English hardline Anglican Middle Class folks and Protestant Galswegians , and we get blame for supposedly keeping a chunk of Ireland for no reason but it is and always has been the Northern Irish who wanted it, the Irish Free State was meant to be united but then they kicked up a fuss. While even in Northern England there's historically religious tensions (my grandma was nearly disowned for marrying my grandfather since he was Catholic Kek), there's little tension amongst youths and nowadays most young Rep. Irish and English get along swimmingly (although it may help 1/10 Brits have at least 1 Irish grandparent).
Source: I'm a partially Irish descended Englishman raised Catholic.
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>>79893719
>American makes a retarded post
>I hate all Americans

Grow up lad.

>>79893753
>At least we saved the Celtic race... right...right?

No race was saved or will be spared from the kebob mate.
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>>79893895
It's just bait at this point.
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>>79893478
You seem to know what motivates the Irish and what their future will hold better than the Irish do. Any solid picks for government positions in the next ten years so I can place bets online?
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>>79893901

It's kind of sad that I believe in the Panceltic's more than someone who is a part of them
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>>79894000
>Panceltic's

the celts origin is the mediterranean

so "panceltic" is really mediterranean
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>>79894000
Lets just focus on white Europeans as a whole. Or the very least the Islands.
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>>79894051
>Implying gingers can take heat
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>>79894051

>Taking so long to get to Britain and conquer land you turn white.

In comparison to,

>rebelling against own people

I'm ok with this
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>>79893692
>haha ya man that's gonna work out real fucking well, hope the Nordic Union doesnt accidentally let terrorists and other undesirables past your border.
i'm not sure you understand the incentive they have to not let shit happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4EoXH1ju_0
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>>79886412
No, the Unionist would eat the Irish republic alive.
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Real English person here, I don't give a shit.

No one here gives a shit, shut up, grow up, get over it. We all face the same threat now, Jews and Muslims.

Stop your petty little tribal clan bullshit or at least put it on hold until kebob and bagel is removed permanently.

Americans, shut the hell up, no one cares that your great great great great grandmothers friends pet cat once encountered an Irish Setter.

NOW FUCK OFF.
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>>79887132
Cheeseburger-bobby Sands
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>>79894270

Civil war will break out far easier than kebob war. watch yourself lod
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No one wants Northern Ireland.
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Irishman in cuckland

We don't want Norn Iron for three main reasons
a) We can't afford it
b) The day they join the Republic, the UVF will kick off another war which we don't want
c) It's shit
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>>79894362
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>>79893478
no one in roi or gb gives a fuck about who has ni. only a handful of chavs in ni do and the sinn fein wankers who egg them on . stop acting like you know shit about the situation there
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>>79894371
>Civil war will break out far easier than kebob war. watch yourself lod

there are no kabobs in Ireland

therefore the Irish are in favor of the kabobs messing up England
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>>79894827
>there are no kabobs in Ireland

How I wish you were right.
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>>79886412
No.

>Its too late for that. what they need to do is increase military spending and get ready for the war in a few years. they are going to be on the front lines.
We function better in asymmetric warfare. Why would we go anywhere near the front lines?
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>>79894703
Kek
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>>79890203
If the english are leaving the eu, it would make more sense to unite with them than to unite northern ireland to eu.
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>>79894920
>>79894827

ding ding.... kabobs are everywhere
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>>79890998
What a great plan. Why has no one ever thought of that before!?
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>>79894697
This

>American who Norge, so doesn't have some sort of love for ireland.
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> pol
> Pro nationalism
> Ireland
> Fuck those mickfags
> They don't need their island
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>>79894127

I believe in Welsh and Scots / Britts more than Ireland sorry
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>>79894697
this
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>>79886412
I wish the troubles was in our time, imagine all the IRA happening threads.''QUEENS COUSIN BLOWN UP'' BRIT KEKS BTFO
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>>79895228
No one holds it against you. Its not like the Republic is ever going to rejoin the UK and Norn Iron is a mess.
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>>79894827
>there are no kabobs in Ireland

Not remotely true.
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>>79895219
Nationalism in Ireland is profoundly leftwing though.

Same with Scotland.
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>>79895379
>the troubles
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>>79895388

Honestly Ireland is saucy as fuck, but NI is just a loss atm and Scotland, happy with the Wales - England Strong hold. But Honestly wouldn't be surprised when Wales leaves.
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>>79895470
>Nationalism in Ireland is profoundly leftwing though.

ya it's called National Socialism

irish nazis
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No we're a bunch of drunk castrated communists who watch crappy TV and sit through threatening government adverts
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>>79895379
As bad as it was, the Troubles were kinda funny. Whenever I think of Maggie Thatcher having to check under her car everyday, I have a good chuckle.
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>>79895603
Hope you paid your TV licence a chara
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>>79893900
Didn't the English deliberatly create an influx of Scottish protestants to shift cultural demographics in the north?

If not intentional, I know that is at least where all the orange fags came from.
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>>79895470
you literally don't even have a eurosceptic party let alone a right wing one. ukip are hardly far-right but stil
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>>79895657
The only thing saucier than "the troubles" is the FAL that shit would penetrate 15 walls before it stopped.
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>>79895603
And cartoonishly violent road safety adverts.
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>>79895713
There were a lot of lands given to Scots after the Flight of the Earls.
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>>79895882
>>79895713

multiculturalims is good guys

its good(for the wealthy) for the population to obsess endlessly over religion symbols that don't actually mean anything
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>>79895882
Ya, that's where we get our "scotch-irish".
Scottish families that lived in Ireland.
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>79895585
Its weird because it is actually National Socialism in the strict sense, but they just love to actually fuck over the native people by giving all the money away to brown hordes.

>79895711
Got the notice a few days ago.

>Didn't the English deliberatly create an influx of Scottish protestants to shift cultural demographics in the north?

Yes, and its fucking annoying because they conveniently introduced democracy to the region soonafter. The perfect crime.
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There is no more ireland, there is only the EU and population replacement.
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>>79895880
>cartoobishly violent road safety adverts
Link pls
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>>79896183
Fun fact: The "Scotch-Irish" actually referred to themselves merely as "Irish" before the Catholic Irish arrived to America enmasse.

Didn't want to be associated with starving papists apparently.

>>79896226
There will be no fucking Europe soon, except in name only.
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>>79896221
>by giving all the money away to brown hordes
They don't really though. It mostly finds its way into the bank accounts of ministers' friends and families.

>>79896183
>we
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>>79886412

When will the IRA stop being socialist fags?
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>>79895880
You gotta hand it to them, RSA are exceptional, some might say excessive, when it comes to car crash simulation.

Remember the one where the girl gets her legs crushed against the now lifeless body of her boyfriend? What a fun thing to see in the adds before a film!
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>>79896226
i wonder if the irish will stand up for themselves when merkel gets to them. they seem to have more of a sense of identity than us in england, where flying the flag is seen as racist and chavvy. i imagine they will just role over though
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>>79896377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DcSobnkB0w better than the original imo
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>>79896624
>when merkel gets to them
I don't think she will get to us. The EU is dying and it's not like we're a particularly important part of it. We aren't even in the Schengen Zone.
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>>79896424
Oh in that case giving €188.80 a week to the thousands of unemployed Romanians gypsies and Africans is just fine.

>we
He's merely referring to an ethnic group in the country he lives in you knee jerk retard.
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>>79896377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpjL8bGC1ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU6OQVCB20o&list=PLSDmSRqo9R07YWnotn6egBcVTEAAYkYV4
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>>79896604
Do they show the one where the school trip gets wiped out by a car down south? I thought that was a bit much
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>>79896491
Probably never. Thought there isn't really a proper IRA anymore. At this point it's nearly all drug gangs hiding behind the mask of militant nationalism.
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>>79896773
but your probably the most pro-eu country so you will more than likely be there until the bitter end
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>>79896967

Didn't the IRA shoot drug dealers in the knee at some point?

Sad development.

Still did never understand the IRA, how are they different from Nazis?
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>>79897017
>probably the most pro-eu country
How do you figure? I'd imagine Germany, Belgium and Poland are all significantly more pro-EU.

>>79897119
The newer IRA splinter group pretty much only target drug dealers now.
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>>79887132
In light of this quote I can never understand why the IRA embraced quasi-Marxist revolutionary shit. Sands spoke of a "culturally independent" Ireland which is not compatible with the leftist ideology of the IRA which, theoretically, should not even recognize "Irish people" as to do so would be racist.

I suppose it's all that "the nationalism of the oppressed is different from the oppressor" nonsense. I just hope that we can now have Troubles 2.0 to exterminate these vermin once and for all.
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>>79897119
>Didn't the IRA shoot drug dealers in the knee at some point?

To stomp out competition under the guise of community service.
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>>79897017
>but your probably the most pro-eu country so you will more than likely be there until the bitter end

funny how the most pro-Eu countries are the ones that get the most stuff from the EU
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>>79897265
We also get alot of shit from the UK.

Really makes you think huh?
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>>79897229
you don't even have a token euro-skeptic party. i'd agree that Belgium and Germany are probably more pro-eu
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>>79897373
>We also get alot of shit from the UK.

really makes you think how much the troubles were really costing them
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They don't want it. It's basically a massive debt sink.
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>>79897511
This.
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>>79897119
Yeah, drug dealers that weren't paying them a cut.
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>>79897426
Our politics are completely fucked. You would need a lot of money to start a viable new party. About half of people I know are strongly anti-EU.

>>79897373
How many levels of reparations are you operating on?
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>>79897233
The Irish don't know any better.
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>>79897511
>They don't want it. It's basically a massive debt sink.

but you have to wonder- why is it a massive debt sink?

obviously the english WANT it to be a massive debt sink, that is unless they have control of it.
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>>79886412
Ireland, all of it, should join the UK
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Can't we just make NI independent but allow them to retain the monarchy that way neither true Brits are true Irish need deal with "Norn iron".
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>>79897582
>>79897234
>>79897229

seems that my last respect for the IRA is gone,
are they at least anti semitic?
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>>79897233
>Drawing Shell shocked WWI soldiers that were too fucked in the head to work normal jobs in Britain as tall gallant men.
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>>79897426
Our best shot of a Euro-Skeptic party got shut down on its launch day by an actual jewess and her cronies.

>pic related

>>79897676
Dont be such a smug cunt. Every Western country is suffering from the disease of leftism at the moment.

>>79897744
>are they at least anti semitic?
Kek, I dont know how to break this to you anon...
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>>79897744
Yes, they've sent snipers over to Israel.
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>>79897744
Everyone in Ireland is anti-semetic. Even the Unionists.
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>>79887184
Kys
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>>79897744
>are they at least anti semitic?
They're pro-Arab, if that counts.
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>>79897987
www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/nazi-grandad-regrets-swastika-tattoo-34841173.html
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>>79897744
Nope, why would they be? Jewish population is literally non existent, 0.03%, was probably even less back then.

Also any respect for the modern IRA shouldn't have existed in the first place, they are low level thugs using the name to increase their prestige
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>>79897744
They have a strong relationship with groups like Hamas, so yea.
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>>79898033
>>79897987
>>79897912
>>79897909

Thats an interesting topic.

Do you guys support the IRA, or at least their former goal of uniting Ireland?
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>don't live in Dublin
>no foreigners anywhere apart from the token kebab chippers
>go on pol
>start feeling really happy that just like the Barbarians, the Muslims will leave us until a few centuries after the rest of Europe falls
God I love being on the edge of Europe.
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>>79898150
* well used to
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>>79896886
Jesus fucking Christ that schoolroom one. I know why you all drink so much now.
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>>79898165
I support the original IRA. The newer groups are mostly condensed faggotry.
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Look lads, the moral of the story is as follows:

The IRA are Cunts.
The UVF are colour-shifted Cunts.
The North has Bushmills, Game of Thrones Tourism and the Titanic experience. That's it.
Other than that it's an economic, political and literal mine field.

It's just not worth the effort.
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>>79898133
>>79898150

Its not like I keep track of what is going on on your Island, I maybe just had the image of the IRA of the 70's and 80's which is still prevalent in Germany.
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>>79898185
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Co. Antrim here, all Irish bros, whether unionist or nationalist, are sick of you fat fucking yanks trying to tell us what to do. I hope you get another 9/11 so you can once again learn that getting blown up and getting kneecapped, over irrelevant stuff like a flag, is not fun. There is no significant effect of NI existing, you can still say you are Irish or British and do everything the same, we can even choose our nationality and passport, what is the point even raising this debate?
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>>79898185
Same everywhere in rural Europe desu.

Muzzies and blacks tend not to venture out of major urban areas.
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If they're smart enough to play the EU, Ireland and GB right, sure.

But they're Irish so the chances that that is going to happen are about as high as seeing potatos fly.
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>>79898405
That 80s picture is what most of the world jumps to, as previous anons have said both the IRA and UVF have Shitty splinter groups that are shadows of there former selves
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>>79898493
I think you neglect the fact a united Ireland would do wonders for my OCD when looking at a map.
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>>79898493

didnt we already establish that the existence of NI means that English can invade ireland with goods, people(even lawyers apparently), as well as a potential military force.

that's not a minor thing.

if Ireland were a defensible island it would get proposals for military bases and what not, also trade deals.

apparently ireland is too dumb to figure any of this out. Unification would be huge plus for the average Mick
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>>79898462
And yet there's fuck all refugees here.

A picture of some political dipshit trying to virtue signal with a sign isn't an argument
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_NXdj3MaFk
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>>79898730

so, is the conflict pretty much dead or does it just slumber?
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>>79898165
I believe the IRA of the 1920s fought for a noble cause.

I believe the IRA of the 70s fought for a somewhat noble cause, but eventually lost their way to rampant leftism.

What you must also remember is that the Irish were treated like shit by the Brits in the North. There is NO denying that.

The violence or troubles in the North during the 70s was an escalation from that rather than a resurgence of people wanting reunification.

The Irish have no problem with the Brits -none whatsoever - but they didnt want to be treated like shit (and it was the actual Brits - or rather the English, not the Northern Irish that gave the orders for so much shit during the 70s).

So some of it was justifiable in a twisted sense.

Now that both sides have settled down and want peace I dont support the IRA or Sinn Feins drive to reunify the island since it will only stir more shit around the whole island.
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>>79898697
Well don't you feel silly now?
https://youtu.be/PvqMWqxYuL8
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I do not support any of the IRA or modern nationalist movements. If none of it happened there would already be a united Ireland, as all of Britain's colonies have the right to self determination and right to independence. Without the fighting we would have had that vote long ago on an all-Ireland basis, with a majority voting for independence. The violence has hurt too many people in the six counties and it will never happen peacefully now.
>>79898764
Look at the world map, look how the land masses and islands are divided. Look into Irish history, the kingdoms etc. The idea this island has ever been united is silly, and the fetish of a unified island for the sake of it can be against all practicality.
>>79898798
Ireland is not too dumb, you do not know what you are talking about you plastic paddy.
All you stupid fucks don't even realise how fruitful the unity between Ireland and Britain was. I wish Ireland was still all with Britain, as a proud Irishman I can say that!
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>>79898680
That's bretty comforting.
Regardless, even in Dublin I hardly see any foreigners, and they're mostly kids on school trips from different countries.

It's pretty great. I went to Germany last year and that was an eye opener as to how bad it can really get. We're not there yet
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>>79899037
>so, is the conflict pretty much dead or does it just slumber?

the irish have definitely not gotten over their hatred of the english. they have always been the nigger of the English, things got slightly better for them because the EU loaned them money ie. the german loaned them money. but the relationship is still the same.
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>>79899037
The current College age Northerners are young enough to not remember the real troubles. I wouldn't say that the conflict is over, but it might be harder to reignite than, say, a decade after the Good Friday agreement.
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>>79895470
And Wales, Catalonia, Basque Country...
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>>79899037
We still get bomb scares and the odd security alert but nothing like the troubles. Also coming up to dates like st Patrick's day or the twelfth the local yobs have a few fights.
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>>79898798
I don't know if its the American mindset or what, but you keep mentioning defense. No one that I have ever talked to in my life has mentioned the defensibly of Ireland from an invasion. We have nothing but a token military, well trained sure, but tiny. It would cost billions upon billions to get Ireland up to scratch militarily to make it that we could defend ourselves. The mindset is, if Ireland is being invaded, the entire planet is fucked already, and at that point, whats the benefit of having wasted all that money slowly delaying an invasion that could of been spent reforming our fucked governmental system and hospitals.

I know people on /pol/ think the entire world in on a hairpin trigger, just waiting for the chance to invade every possibly country just because they can, but come on, if that really is the case, Ireland is fucked regardless
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>>79899037
Dead entirely.

There's some Chav scum who will start fights over it if you have an Irish reg or something like that, but scum just want an excuse to fight. Nobody really cares, even people who were alive during the troubles
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>>79899164
That's not flying, that's falling with grace.

Though the Ires might yet prove that it did indeed fly... :p
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>>79899407
Ireland is neutral and in a fairly isolated position. Plus there's not a lot to gain by invading us.

Burgers have been wound up by 70 years of bad bad politics and scaremongering
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>>79899103
Wasn't the whole Island under British rule once?

I think I read somewhere that the Brits used Hessian mercenaries against you in the 1790's?

I can fully understand the original cause of the IRA.

>>79899232

So you think in case of some earth shaking major crisis, fighting will break out again?

>>79899290

Do you wish for it to be reignited?

>>79899434
How do you evaluate the chances of NI joining Ireland in case it leaves the UK?
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>>79899037
Dead, but tensions in NI will remain indefinitely.
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>>79899103

They killed 600+ civilians. inb4 'b-b-but the brits/loyalists were worse.' Maybe, doesn't make the IRA good. The fact that former IRA members/leaders are still relevant in Northern Ireland is a disgrace.
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>>79899787
>So you think in case of some earth shaking major crisis, fighting will break out again?
If NI rejoins Ireland, the UVF will start it up again.

>How do you evaluate the chances of NI joining Ireland in case it leaves the UK?
50/50
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>>79899955
>UVF will start it up again.
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Who /been in violent situations due to sectiarian hatred/ here? Thought I killed a taig with his hurley one night in McDonalds, shit myself.
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>>79899407

you totally ignored my point about trade

what do you think the reason the English maintain that little piece of land? for fun? are you that retarded?
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>>79899787
>do you wish for it to be reignited?

Fuck no. Look, I don't particularly like the Orangemen culture and a part of me would like to see a united Ireland. But there's no way I want to see that kind of shit on my Doorstep.
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>>79899787
No one wants a war on their home soil.
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>>79900070
>what do you think the reason the English maintain that little piece of land? for fun? are you that retarded?
Because the majority of people there want to remain in the UK.

It's a financial black hole and a liability to them. They'd give it back to the republic if they were able to.
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>>79899787
>How do you evaluate the chances of NI joining Ireland in case it leaves the UK?
I really can't say.
It's one of those situations where it'll depend on the narrative the media push. I'd imagine people will easily jump into a "unite Ireland as one/we're all the same" narrative, but I suspect that - unless the UK wants to let NI go - there won't be any significant progress in that direction.

I really can't emphasize just how relaxed 90% of the country is over this issue. If it's promoted as a nice thing, people will vote for it. If it is promoted as a scary thing, everybody will leave it.

But I'm getting ahead of myself. It's in the hands of the politicians atm and I don't think any of them except a handful want this.
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>>79899407
>The mindset is, if Ireland is being invaded, the entire planet is fucked already, and at that point, whats the benefit of having wasted all that money slowly delaying an invasion that could of been spent reforming our fucked governmental system and hospitals.
Or at least building a decent football team
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>this is a real album
Kek I love ARE WEE COUNTRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU2d1PhTzcs
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>>79900070
No its because it gives them +1 sight and defence to all attacks, they should take the rest actually and get the full island bonus to air and sea assaults.

The rest of the world isn't governed by military decisions, mongrel, some nations actually make decisions based on cultural and religious demographics
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>>79900455
>It's a financial black hole and a liability to them. They'd give it back to the republic if they were able to.

if its a financial black hole why do the english want it?
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>>79887132
Yeah, they sure fucked Britain up using hunger strikes and abstentionism.
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>>79900611
>Or at least building a decent football team
Still better than yours
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>>79900070
Same reason they don't give back Gibraltar, Los Malvinas, etc. There are Britons living there and we're not far enough away from the days of Empire for the British to even remotely consider backing out of territory where the majority of people identify as their citizens.
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>>79900730
THEY DON'T WANT IT!

They keep it because the democratic majority wants to remain in the UK.

It's not rocket science, Christ.
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>>79900680
>mongrel

the irishman calls me a mongrel
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>>79900760
B-B-But I'm not English.
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>>79900637
kek
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>>79900880

and do the brits move products and such across the border?

I know there are people who work across the border which no doubt is going to get really difficult no matter what happens
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>>79901056
>I know there are people who work across the border which no doubt is going to get really difficult no matter what happens
Why would it get difficult?
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>>79901056
There is essentially no border.

People and goods can move freely.

Hopefully Brexit won't change this.
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>>79901248
>People and goods can move freely.

>>79901248
>Hopefully Brexit won't change this.

you dont want to put tariffs on English goods?

that's retarded.
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>>79901056
Yeah. About 30 years ago the entire borer was a nightmare of military checkpoints and fortified listening posts. Now you pass a sign that tells you that all the road signs will be slightly different from here onwards.

If we end up with a hard border again I have no idea how there can be any cross-border employment. Trade will suffer too.

So generally we don't want that to happen.
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>>79901406
>Trade will suffer too.

do Irish want English stuff coming in?

I would imagine no. The English will just flood Ireland with junk from their various 3rd world colonies destroying jobs, not to mention kabobs.
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>>79900906
you are american, he isn't wrong
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>>79900239
>Orangemen culture

can't quite manage to say they're a bunch of catholics and you're protestant?

cuck of cucks I dub thee
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>>79900880
How can we "give" back the "Malvinas" (Falklands) when they are a legitimate British possession. Argentina has fuck all claim to them other than geography and even then they are hundreds of miles away.
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>>79901704
>legitimate British possession

according to the British
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>>79900239

Did you ever ask for it?
I mean, head of state asking the british, please give us northern ireland, we will be nice to the english there?
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>>79901845

Yeah we get it, you hate the Brits.
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>>79901664
No, I specifically dislike People who are a part of the Orange Order. Could give a fuck which church they go into.
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>>79901517
The UK imports more goods from Ireland than they export to us.
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>>79901951
>we will be nice to the english there?
It was never the English who were worried about Paddy running Ulster.
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>>79901973
>Yeah we get it, you hate the Brits.

well whats makes it a "legitimate british possession"?

afaik it means "the british say it's british"

how the fuck do a bunch of ugly people in northern europe "legitimately" claim an island in south america? how the fuck does that work exactly?

or in the Caribbean, or any of these other places the British think they 'legitimately possess'?
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>>79901845
and the UN

But stay mad there jorge.
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>>79902134
>how the fuck do a bunch of ugly people in northern europe

intersting set of words from a mutt.
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>>79901406
At least Brexit will mean even more sexy Eastern European women over here.
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>>79902237
>At least Brexit will mean even more sexy Eastern European women over here.

shut up Sheridan
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>>79901845
>According to virtually every line of logical reasoning and historical fact. Argentina has never owned the Falklands (beyond the few days of their pathetic invasion) they have no claim and only use it as a distraction when their economy is going through a particularly shitty period.
Ceding the Falklands to Argentina would be like the US ceding Louisiana to Canada on the basis that they were both a part of the French Empire at one time in history.

Any independent observer with their rational faculties intact would agree that the Falklands are rightfully British on every level.
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Anyone know any good books about The Troubles?
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>>79902287
We're already 3% Polish.

Good people senpai.
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>>79902413
>US ceding Louisiana to Canada
we would be ok with that louisiana is a nigger filled shithole
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>>79902454
"Troubles" by J.G. Farrell is a decent read. He was a lib left scumfuck though.
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>>79902287
Hey, at least they work.
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>>79902454

Not books but I've always found Peter Taylors documentaries pretty decent on the whole. They're all on youtube.
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>>79886412
>will the irish take back northern ireland now?

well its full of libs so you tell me
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>>79895815
>what is identity ireland
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>>79886412
no need

naturally it will be integrated with in the republic and thats fact, you can deny it all you guys want but it will eventually happen and you cant blame ira for it ether, when people go hungry they will turn and look else where.
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>>79894270
If you can't even figure out the Irish Question you don't have any right to talk about the JQ
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>>79905825
A party that can't even stand candidates in a general election.
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>>79895470
>Nationalism in Ireland is profoundly leftwing though.

As an American this is so super weird to me.
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