SHIRTGATE - 1.1 STARS ON GOOGLE EDITION
A fellow anon went into bang on t-shirts in San Francisco to get a t-shirt that had "trump" written on it, instead he received one that also said "fuck you" on the inside.
Original video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUSTJK6S480
Subsequent phone call where store manager tells him he is a jerk and ruined his day and if he comes back they will kick him out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9DFautmO_k
Also I pretended to be a reporter from BBC News and called their San Francisco shop, she details the abusive phone calls she received and apparently the employee has been fired. You can listen to that here:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vw0RrktVdz
Interestingly, I think that the woman the guy was talking to in the youtube video above is the same woman I was speaking to in the vocaroo link above, what are your thoughts?
Chink chat with vancouver office yesterday here: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0fBMcv7ir6x
Yelp: http://www.yelp.com/biz/bang-on-san-francisco
Google: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bang+on+t+shirts+san+francisco&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=kCl8V5fBDe3R8gfCkYywAw
>>79878798
>Also I pretended to be a reporter from BBC News and called their San Francisco shop, she details the abusive phone calls she received and apparently the employee has been fired. You can listen to that here:
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vw0RrktVdz
"Schlomo Shekelstein" LOL
This is some Top cringe material.
>>79879868
sorry, didn't mean to sound so awkward
>>79878798
>>79879945
I like this idea of calling American business's etc pretending to be the BBC lol. Just having the English accent makes it seem plausible enough. And through anonymizing software also I presume.
LOL
This should be a thing. /pol/ goes to liberal businesses and twists their nipples until they chimp out, post results, which will get others to troll their review pages.
Somebody go to whole foods in san fran and ask for a TRUMP cake.
>>79878798
Hope they dont delete my post.
>>79880831
>/pol/ goes to liberal businesses and twists their nipples until they chimp out, post results, which will get others to troll their review pages.
So this. The left started this war with the whole gay cake thing, time to take action from our side.
Also OP should continue to call them pretending to be Schlomo Shekelstein from the BBC to ask funny questions.
Ok guys, called the store to ask for a bulk order.
Max they wanted to do was 30, they said this is the email to send images for shirts to.
[email protected]
>>79881140
Hmm I wonder what designs we could send them?
>>79880726
God Damn, That bitch wrecked that business with 7 small letters
>>79880831
I live in SF. I'd be willing to offer my services in the name of kek
>>79881140
Send this.
zA>>79881272
>>79878798
Is this fuck retarded?
How hard is it for people to film with their camera
we didn't even need to see his face, he could have framed the shot just fine otherwise
>you're coming from a place with privilege
#stopprivilegiophobia
>>79881433
I'm gonna send blinis
>>79878798
There's a Bang On around the corner from where I live and I always wondered to myself how they'd react if I asked them to make a Trump shirt. Fuckers shilled hard for the NDP in their window displays during our provincial elections last year. Guess now I know lol.
>>79879758
Nice
Ive asked for 30 if this.
>Schlomo Shekelstein
lmfao
>>79881049
SHUT IT DOWN
>>79881628
Very nice.
>>79878798
Now someone just needs to bake a cake for a gay wedding and put "Fuck Faggots" on it
>>79880613
No anonymizing software, just my mobile phone, and since I am on three pay as you go I add a few extra digits to the phone number and international calls go from ridiculously high to reasonable support.three.co.uk/srvs/cgi-bin/webisapi.dll?command=new,kb=mobile,ts=mobile,t=article,varset_cat=roaming,varset_subcat=4161,case=obj(6153)
So long as you don't be fucking stupid and make bomb threats like /b/ would, then they aren't going to start an international investigation.
>>79881290
Bang-on is a sizable chain, I didn't even know they had branches in the states. Way too big for something like this to tank their buisness, especially when their entire customer base is Bernie Boys.
>>79878798
Yeah, but do they have Battletoads? Perhaps some inquiring minds could find out.
>>79881131
>/pol/ destroys an innocent business owner's life because of some liberal employee who already got fired
>>79881973
>an innocent business owner's
When they gonna take a piss in your food at the restaurant because they don't agree with your political view I guess then it will be a problem.
>>79881973
He/she knew what kind of people he/she was employing.
>>79881358
>>79881973
I feel kinda bad for them its not there fault the employee was a liberal cunt.
Can I please ask for peoples opinion on if the person the shirt buyer was talking to in the video is the same person as I was talking to in the first vocaroo link? I think it might be. If it is then it is interesting how she changes her tune when speaking to a customer vs the "reporter".
>>79881431
Thank God it's 2016.
My review.
>>79882154
What does she looks like? I bet she's fat with dye hairs.
>>79878798
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vw0RrktVdz
So the one who made the shirt is claimed to have been fired and the guy got refunded, what else is there to demand?
Of course they're probably lying, approved the shirt and didn't expect the backlash, but what else can they do about it?
>>79882163
Their whole buisness is run by and caters to hipster shits. Don't feel any guilt.
>>79881973
We didn't start this war.
>>79878798
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vw0RrktVdz
>white supremacist sub-reddit & ebaumsworld
keekers
>>79879758
cheeky wanker m8
>>79882344
>what else is there to demand?
You seems to be under the impression that you're dealing with rational people here.
Well you're not. It's war and any excuse to open an attack will be taken.
It's not about fair retribution. It's about total annihilation.
Good fucking night the left.
>>79878798
>Also I pretended to be a reporter from BBC News and called their San Francisco shop, she details the abusive phone calls she received and apparently the employee has been fired. You can listen to that here:
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vw0RrktVdz
Actually I just heard the bit where you started yelling FEELING THE BERN .. you should have just thanked them for their time
After listening to that phone call I really feel bad for the (I presume) owner.
Sounds like they have good policies in place and a pro-active approach to try and avoid situations like this, but the lefty cunt who printed that shirt is gonna be a lefty cunt regardless.
It's a shame that the owner has to sit there and take all that flak and can't even disclose who's actually at fault.
Yes, the owner deserves some blame for
1. hiring that person and
2. having no responsible floor manager to manage staff and prevent this kind of shit
but if I were apportioning blame I'd easily apportion it 5%-95% against the employee.
Capitalist pigs!
Can't believe they didn't give you the shirt for free. Fuck the system!
>>79882318
haha
>>79882224
could be desu
>>79882626
I think that the "owner" and the person that the buyer talked to are the same person. Sounds like something not entirely honest is going in.
>>79882344
The more harm this business gets the more business owners will understand that its not good to cater to the left or the right. They will become non political as business is supposed to be.
>>79882543
>>79882626
It's the same woman on the phone. Sounds like the owner is the one who did it.
>>79881973
>>79882480
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
>>79878798
>don't want to reveal gender
>she
>she
>>79878798
>Also I pretended to be a reporter from BBC News and called their San Francisco shop
That sounds like the same person in the original follow up phone call.
>>79882804
>>79882920
They don't even sound remotely similar. The person on the other end of the 'BBC' call sounds a lot older and has a different speaking pattern.
>>79878798
The only thing that should be done is the store owner throwing the person that fucked her business under the bus.
Bump
>>79881140
Pic Related
>>79880831
Do it. This is war and any gun is a good gun.
>>79881973
>refuse to bake a cake for faggots based on religious beliefs.
>have entire business destroyed
GOOD THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED! PLS GIVE ME ALL YOUR LIBERAL SEMEN IN MY MOUTH.
>pay for a shirt that says trump on it.
>get told fuck you on the shirt due to political beliefs
POL STARTS WARS OH MY GOD STOP DESTROYING BUSINESSES PLS GIVE ME ALL YOUR LIBERAL SEMEN IN MY MOUTH.
Also.
>1 post by this id
You guys are being tumblr tier fags.
>>79883432
>religious views
vs
>TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER
>>79882828
Also just listened to the phonecall, I can bet 100 bucks right now that the woman either printed it or was "ok" with it.
Also
>the person responsible does not want to classify its gender
>2 mintes later, im sorry SHE did this SHE did this compleatly outta character etc.
>1 minute later SHE did not want to do this then HE wanted to get a response from Trump supporters
Is it a trap? Or what is this creature? Im guessing a female (herself) since she changed it to he in the end not to incriminent herself
>>79883651
Can't tell if I misconstrued my message. Or if you did.
Or if I am.
Or who's jewing who. Jesus... Help us all.
Their own medicine doesn't taste so good does it.
Good job labs
I kind of want to order 30 smug pepe shirts and pass them out to homeless people.
>>79883126
She absolutely does not sound older and her speaking pattern is basically the same. Even her choice of words is similar. It's unlikely that a much older woman is going to be throwing around so many F-bombs when talking about her livelihood to a reporter. I would bet money that it's the same woman.
>>79884003
>She absolutely does not sound older
Hot opinion, bro.
>Even her choice of words is similar.
It's almost as if they're speaking the same language.
>It's unlikely that a much older woman is going to be throwing around so many F-bombs when talking about her livelihood to a reporter.
Clearly you haven't worked in a front-line retail industry, then.
I think she sounds like a different woman.
>>79883432
>owner of a t shirt shop does nothing, fires his employee for wrongdoing
Why not find out who the employee actually was?
>two posts by this id
>>79884003
Don't worry burgerfriend, as an Australian he doesn't know much about proper speaking patterns.
>call and pretend to be part of the BBC
oh, i love it. you can actually convince businesses here to do serious damage to their property by sounding official. someone convinced the employees at some business to smash out all of their windows by telling them they had a gas leak.
>>79884406
>two people refuse to bake a cake.
Still have there business destroyed.
Fight fire with fire.
The only people fucking fighting anymore is the progressives.
And we're just laying in the fetal position getting kicked the fuck in.
>>79878798
Their address is:
San Francisco, CA 1687 Haight St.
Email:
[email protected]
Phone:
415 - 255 - 8446
to any anon who needs this. to have a little fun then all i have to say is.
have fun
>>79882318
My sides
>>79884406
>Why not find out who the employee actually was?
Because we're sending a message to all businesses about them or their employees taking anti-Trump stances, dummy. Businesses feel they can just insult, or refuse Trump supporters as clientele.
This won't happen any more.
>Why not find out who the employee actually was?
Why bother? The (((Mainstream Media))) will publicly brand her a hero and offer her a book deal within the week, and Bang-On will likely start selling "Trump/Fuck You." T-Shirts anyway.
We have to hit first to show there are consequences for anyone, even lefties for taking a political stand in the free market.
They aren't answering the phone
>>79884406
>Why not find out who the employee actually was?
[It's about sending a message intensfies]
>>79878798
>Shlomo shekelstein
How about next time dial it down a little and just say you are Louie Theroux from the BBC.
>>79880726
just like the british pound, except for the fact that the pound will bounce back up even better
>>79884484
To be fair, those employees were niggers.
>>79882626
>After listening to that phone call I really feel bad for the (I presume) owner.
Listening to her unprofessional demeanor and language while talking to someone whom she believed was media personnel, I don't. Not at all. She's not "innocent" if this is how she represents her own business.
>>79879758
>>79881973
It's a matter of principle
>>79886443
I don't think I sound like him, I can do a good Brian Cox (the physicist/tv presenter not the actor) voice though but I don't think that would come in handy. One of the things that makes Louie Theroux's documentaries so good in America is that people don't know who he is and don't act accordingly, so it won't be much help.
>>79880726
>117
Chief approves.
>>79881973
I just want the war, anon. don't really care how we get there.
>>79882318
I wrote a review for a company once on google. They took it down though because it either triggered corporate or it was causing a loss in sales (kek). Place was shitty as fuck, if they aren't getting any customers maybe they should hire workers that actually want to work and treat customers with respect, instead of a high school clique social function.
What happened to the flags?
>>79887008
>Listening to her unprofessional demeanor and language while talking to someone whom she believed was media personnel, I don't
I don't feel some vindictive need to punish anyone who's not a perfect model of consummate professionalism, but this is probably because I've actually worked in customer service.
No, she doesn't handle it perfectly. I don't expect perfection. It's unreasonable to expect perfection. I don't even think she handled it well, but I don't think that a lack of skill makes you less worth my sympathy.
>>79881140
good god who is this semen demon?
>>79887008
>Listening to her unprofessional demeanor and language while talking to someone whom she believed was media personnel, I don't. Not at all. She's not "innocent" if this is how she represents her own business.
She's a shop owner not the head of PR for Hillary Clinton. People talk like this in the real world
The autists on 4chan .. I swear
>>79887283
It wasn't that she didn't have skill, lacking skill doesn't mean you start swearing down the phone to a journalist and say that they will print the most sensationalist things (it was at that point I decided to ask if she felt the bern).
>>79887283
I think it signifies the conditions of the work environment, that this vulgar and careless atmosphere is daily routine, and it gives me the impression that the employee figured they could get away with doing it, while the employer just assumed they knew better.
>>79887562
>b-b-b-but she SWORE!
Sheltered kid who has never worked a day in his life detected.
People swear. They swear all the time. You know what multi-millionaire execs are doing in their fancy suits and offices? Screaming bloody murder about the fucking merger and the incompetent cunt lawyers who negotiated it. Cabinet ministers? Chewing out their Executive Directors over the piece of shit press release that's backed them into some fucking project that they were going to shit-can before the media got their fucking nose into it.
This isn't 1882 anymore.
>>79887794
>it gives me the impression that the employee figured they could get away with doing it, while the employer just assumed they knew better.
I get that impression too, but I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that your employees know not to print "FUCK YOU" on your products. That's why I said 5%-95% blame.
>>79886808
Hello Hans-Göran
>>79887153
I'll give you a pseudonym.
I know declare you Darby Wilkins from the BBC.
>>79887955
Well, it depends on the business I guess. If you work for a bigger corporation its a violation even to talk to the media. But I guess this woman started a T-shirt printing business, has piercings and tattoos. The business itself does not really have a brand so it does not matter that much, but swearing in any business setting especially to the media is very bad.
Maybe you should take a lesson in business, gas sniffin abbo.
>>79887955
>but I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that your employees know not to print "FUCK YOU" on your products.
In <current year> it's unreasonable to assume that anyone in their 20's gives a fuck about anything other than that paycheck, and I say this as a person who also has experience in customer service.
>>79881140
>>79878798
Can we meme this guy?
>>79888600
>swearing in any business setting especially to the media is very bad.
Swearing to the media is bad.
Swearing in a business setting is par for the course. Some of the most profligate potty-mouths are extremely high up in corporations. They'd never swear in public, obviously.
>>79888606
>le fuqq my generation meme
How zesty.
>>79889027
>>le fuqq my generation meme
Do you always react this way when someone makes a valid point?
>>79889302
You don't know how I react when someone makes a valid point yet.
>>79889027
If you have an office and having a private meeting with a collague, its fine. But swearing in general on the workplace is extremely risky. What if a customer service employee is talking with a client and the client hears it? As a general rule of thumb I only swear when Im with collagues that I know are friends and behind closed doors.
>>79889027
There's lots of 40-60 yearolds here you giant pile of shit. Lurk more faggot
>>79889390
Well I'm defending professionalism.
You're defending routine vulgarity.
I think it's fair to say that you couldn't identify a valid point if it stabbed you in the eyeball.
>>79882318
did you just take a picture of your screen with a camera?
>>79889475
>What if a customer service employee is talking with a client and the client hears it?
Chances are the client is swearing too.
I dunno. Maybe it's an Australian thing, but nobody ever gets hung up about swearing here. Even our politicians swear in front of the media.
>>79889536
>There's lots of 40-60 yearolds here
l m a o
There's a couple, and the anon I replied to ain't one of them.
>le lurk more meme
2007. Still a newfag by the old measure, though. Anything later than 06 is new.
>>79889631
>Well I'm defending professionalism.
No, you're stating that unless someone is perfectly professional all the time, and pulls it off with effortless grace, they deserve zero of your sympathy no matter what.
There's a reason companies employ people to be their media faces. Being perfectly professional is hard, and it's a skill. I don't expect just anyone to be able to sleepwalk through a crisis (and what's happening to this company is definitely a crisis for them).
>>79878798
1/2 on the "tips"
>that exasperated sigh when she realizes she wasted the last 4 minutes
https://youtu.be/BD8Ye3jkcPA?t=4m42s
Original burgerbro uploaded it to youtube.
>>79890352
2/2
>>79886304
>Cats
So true.
>>79890195
What are you 22?
>>79890599
>you're wrong because you're young
Now that is an ad hominem.
I don't see how my age is relevant, thus I won't provide it. If you can tell me how it is I'd be more than happy to disclose it then.
uploaded to youtube folks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD8Ye3jkcPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUjG3T2cQ-E
>>79890962
>4chan in name
are you 14?
>>79890962
thanks
>>79884484
It's also hundreds of times more useful than an actual bbc journalist making the call
It's fucking 2016 (I'm using it correctly) and they still write down their take of the interview instead of actually publicizing the whole thing, pretending they're writing on a piece of paper.
>>79890962
Autism.
>>79878798
>Also I pretended to be a reporter from BBC News and called their San Francisco shop
>>79881272
I"d buy one
Now this is interesting.
>>79890195
>No, you're stating that unless someone is perfectly professional all the time, and pulls it off with effortless grace, they deserve zero of your sympathy no matter what.
Being on the phone with someone you believe is a representative of a world-renowned respected news network, whom literally has the ability to spin shit in ways that can make or break your business, is quite certainly one of those rare times that you should have the sense to be on your best behavior.
That call with the vancouver office is literally every single conversation I have in this city.
I'm getting tired of it.
>>79880831
BAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
>>79891965
And what exactly about her behaviour do you object to?
She swore? You didn't like her tone? What exactly did she do so wrong?
An informal cold-call by a media organisation is not the end of the world.
>>79892012
Is there really that big of an asian population over there?
>>79892229
Yes.
All the memes are true.
And it's getting worse every day.
>calls store in vancouver
>chink answers
the memes are real
In all fairness.
I am pretty God damn sure that Trump would wear the fuck out of that shirt.
I bet you he gets a kick knowing it says "fuck you" !where no one can see it. I bet you that's his favorite saying. He probably whispers that into his children's ears as you receive a gift Christmas morning.
I want to call pretending to be univision and wanting to praise this young woman for her bravery
>>79892153
I told you already.
This signifies that no matter how many excuses she gives, I don't see any reason to be sympathetic of her. She's the one who is most responsible for the image her business projects. She made it perfectly clear that she doesn't care about preserving that amidst a media shitstorm.
And why is that?
Because she didn't actually care about the circumstances. She only cares about the consequences.
Refer to
>>79888606
for more information.
>>79883841
Fucking brilliant
>>79892584
So your entire criticism of her management boils down to
>'she's not as cynical as me'.
Okay senpai. Enjoy the rest of your day.
>>79890962
please replace 4chan with 9gag
>>79892534
DO IT
>>79890962
Wtf are you doing summerfag. Jesus christ.
>>79892700
This, but reddit instead
>>79878798
That Vancouver call. I'm dying.
>>79892697
I intend to, irrelevant of whatever words you put in my mouth to misrepresent the situation because you're an edgy little Bernout.
>>79892745
Whats the number and the comp name
>>79878798
Someone oughta call them again and be like 'allo poppet
>>79878798
>Also I pretended to be a reporter from BBC News and called their San Francisco shop, she details the abusive phone calls she received and apparently the employee has been fired.
That's odd. According to the customer, the manager was the one he dealt with. If the manager was still talking to you, then she wasn't fired.
>>79892926
I'm not putting anything in your mouth, senpai. You literally said that anyone who doesn't automatically assume that anyone in their 20s is a vapid waste of space concerned only with their next paycheck is retarded.
And that's retarded.
You THINK I'm putting words in your mouth because you're hearing retarded shit and saying "that's retarded, and I'm not retarded, ergo that's not what I said." All I'm doing is repeating your arguments back to you.
>>79879758
>I believe the person who was fired who prefer their gender to be anonymous
>she really fucked up
>she
>she
>she
hahahahahaahahahahahahahahhahaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahh
>>79893218
>You literally said that anyone who doesn't automatically assume that anyone in their 20s is a vapid waste of space concerned only with their next paycheck is retarded.
And I'll say it again if it provokes another demonstration of how correct it is from you.
![938bb0ff18c6fc5609b90518442a5da8[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/z1jM4k7.png "938bb0ff18c6fc5609b90518442a5da8[1].png")
>my wife's boyfriend's autistic son
>>79893354
So you agree that your sole criticism of her management is that she's not as cynical as you, then?
>>79893445
dammit carlos
>>79893542
My argument literally is:
This is what happens when you don't (at least pretend to) value professionalism as a matter of routine.
>>79887162
What is a shitbird? Is that like the female version of a shitlord?
>>79893886
I was hearing shitbird as an insult long before SJWs invented "shitlord".
>>79893886
Yeah but also from reddit.
>>79893708
>My argument literally is:
>This is what happens when you don't (at least pretend to) value professionalism as a matter of routine.
Great observation, anon. You've really cracked the case.
That still doesn't address my central critique of your "argument" (more of a statement, really), which isn't that she did nothing wrong but rather that what she did was not so wrong that
a) she and she alone deserves all blame, or even that she deserves most of the blame
and
b) she deserves no sympathy
Running a business is hard. I sympathise with her, because everyone makes mistakes and handling crises isn't fun.
Apparently you don't sympathise with anyone unless they're perfect, in which case they don't need your sympathy. What a convenient state to exist in - it means you can justify inflicting your malignant cynical misanthropy on the world as simply what the world deserves for not being perfect enough for you.
>>79894087
Your criticism of me is that I'm holding her to impossible standards, like trying not to sound like an incompetent drug-addicted fool on the phone with a world-renowned news agency.
Because that's unreasonable or something.
>>79878798
>Chink chat with vancouver office yesterday here: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0fBMcv7ir6x
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
soooo you want prace odah?
>>79878798
What an annoying dialect of English she speaks. That vocal fry is especially grating.
>I can't even believe this a thing that's happening right nowww
>>79879758
>>79888142
there is such a thing as TOO subtle
>>79878798
I like their new logo :^)
>>79894278
>Your criticism of me is that I'm holding her to impossible standards
It's not even that. I agree that being professional on the phone to the BBC is something that is perfectly reasonable to expect.
My criticism is that a single deviation from your standards somehow, according to you, gives others the grounds to withhold all sympathy because if you can't be professional on the phone to the BBC you deserve to have your business shat all over and significantly harmed because of the actions of some fucknugget that are only about 5% your fault.
Your response is in no way proportional to the crime, and that is my criticism. You're trying to justify the way you already feel because you want to hate this woman and you'll use any excuse to do so, rather than deciding how you should feel based on reason and logic and impartial analysis of the facts.
>>79878798
Someone should claim their company on manta
>>79894087
Not that anon but
>Running a business is hard. I sympathise with her, because everyone makes mistakes and handling crises isn't fun.
Your argument is I FEEL BAD FOR THIS PERSON SO THEY SHOULDNT HAVE ANY BACKLASH FOR WHAT THEY DID :)
Youre part of the problem.
>>79890794
You were the one that brought up age you hypocrite
>>79894751
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONDUCT OF THOSE UNDER YOUR EMPLOY, WHETHER YOU ACTUALLY ARE OR NOT IS IRRELEVANT, AND IT IS YOUR BURDEN AS A BUSINESS OWNER TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT!
ERRY FUCKING DAY UNTIL YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR SKULL, KID
>>79882626
Is calling people shitbird a thing in SF? Last time I heard that was when I was in the Marines.
>>79894751
Gotta agree with the Aussie here. I know her company is in San Fransisco and that most likely makes her a leftist but how on earth could she have prevented some rabid employee from doing this shit? Seems like she made a public apology as soon as she was made aware of this and fired the employee on the spot.
If you want to harass people so badly you should find out who the employee was and harass her not the owner of the company.
>>79895013
And she fired the fucker on the spot + made a public apology and offered (gave?) a refund. Does not seem like she hesitated either. You are being unreasonable.
>>79895106
See:
>>79895013
This is why the CEO of a major corporation makes so much money, because he literally can't go, "well it was the stupid min wage employee that lost us 15 million this quarter."
>>79894874
>Your argument is I FEEL BAD FOR THIS PERSON SO THEY SHOULDNT HAVE ANY BACKLASH FOR WHAT THEY DID
I don't have an argument.
I said that I feel bad for this business owner because my view is that they're only barely at fault and yet they are the ones copping the flak.
I was then jumped on by people saying that no, actually, she is completely to blame and thus deserves no sympathy - or that she is not completely to blame but still deserves no sympathy.
Feel free to read the thread before posting in it next time to avoid potentially embarrassing mistakes like the one you just made.
>>79894967
Actually, >>79888606 did.
As above, read before posting.
>>79895013
>YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONDUCT OF THOSE UNDER YOUR EMPLOY
Yes, but that's not the same as being to blame for it. Obviously she's responsible, but I wouldn't say it's her fault. If a tornado strikes then disaster relief is responsible for the situation, but that doesn't mean they're to blame for the tornado.
Blame and responsibility are different things, which is why they are different words.
>>79895106
She knowingly hired a Berniefag. This is what they do. They always pull this kind of shit.
>>79895296
Entrepreneurial ventures are a risk, which is why it's important to practice risk management as a business owner.
>>79887162
could not stop laughing
>>79895295
>This is why the CEO of a major corporation makes so much money, because he literally can't go, "well it was the stupid min wage employee that lost us 15 million this quarter."
She's not the CEO of Walmart or anything though.. If they tried to pull that shit they would be jailed because they have to be accountable to shareholders. It's just some small company that I presume is privately owned.
>>79895310
Is it possible to not have Berniefags in your employment when you're running a buisness in San Fransisco?
>>79895296
No, you did. You criticized anon for criticizing his generation. You assumed he was a millennial when you hadn't a clue
>>79895405
I agree, and it sounds like the owner had what I would have considered a pretty good policy in place for situations like these, namely that if you don't want to print the shirt because you object to it, you don't have to. I'd have considered that pretty good.
However, she definitely should have had a manager on at all times, but we don't know how much responsibility each employee had. If there were 50 of them all doing nothing but operating printing machines like fast-food workers then a manager would have been essential. If there were three people in the entire warehouse that were responsible for everything from electricity to plumbing to catering to manufacturing to training then I can see why you'd be comfortable without a higher-up present to manage such a small and seemingly capable, responsible team. Who should have been on the floor and when is highly contextual.
However, double-handling going forward is a good idea, and in hindsight should have been implemented sooner.
>>79895577
>She's not the CEO of Walmart or anything though
Take a guess at how Wal-Mart got to be so massive.
It wasn't by their employees being unclear on why you can't go around and insult your customers. Her business could use a little bit of "sensitivity training".
>>79895732
>You criticized anon for criticizing his generation
So let me get this straight.
I brought up age when I criticised another anon for bringing up age?
If that's the case, aren't you bringing up age right now?
>>79895577
What part of "a manager is responsible for his employees " can you not comprehend?
>>79882647
>reading comprehension
>>79895876
He didn't bring up your age retardo
Wait what the fuck, that shit was real? I thought that was a stupid meme thread.
>>79896015
No, you did, right here: >>79890599
Regardless, I'm happy to change the wording of my pithy insult to
>le fuqq generations other than mine meme
if it will soothe your raging autism over this single line of greentext and allow you to move forward as a self-actuated free spirit who is part of this sharing experience with us.
>>79895839
You don't understand my point. your analogy is just wrong. Legally CEO's of large companies are treated differently than the owner of some small company.
She's running a small company. If her response was bad I would agree with you but she fired the employee on the spot, offered a refund and made a public apology.
excellent work
10/10
>>79879758
>internet, Reddit trolls
>also from Ebaumsworld
>>79896201
>I'm desperate to shift an argument about the reason this event happened into generational conflict because otherwise I'd have to admit that she's a retarded business owner whose business fell through the floor because she shouldn't be expected to ensure that those under her employ aren't retarded.
wew lad
>>79896258
>YOU KEEP HARASSING HER AFTER SHE RESPONDED APPROPRIATELY
Free market, son.
>>79896458
You're literally the one who brought generational conflict up with your "20 year olds are worthless" memes.
If you don't want to talk about age and generations, why did you mention them in the first place?
Do you even remember what you're arguing about?
>>79895226
It's simple damage control, giving back 20 bucks is nothing compared to the company potentially failing
>>79894061
SJWs didn't invent shitlord. They're both older terms. I hear them mostly up North and in England. If I'm not mistaken, "shitlord" was pretty popular on SomethingAwful.
>>79896611
It has little to do with generations. It has everything to do with the maturity level of people in their 20's, whether it's <current year> or 1642
>>79887289
lee ann mcadoo
>>79896425
Those were the days, I remember being a /b/tard 6-8 years ago or so, trolling tom green, amber lamps, cabela, blaming it on ebaums. I dont even know if ebaums still exists.
amazing
>>79896721
20 year olds in 1642 were often married with children. Were often even veteran warriors. You can't really compare age groups to the past from boomers onwards.
>>79888916
>whined about it on reddit with all of his bigot friends
This guy probably lives on reddit and loves to pride himself on "correcting" others.
>>79896721
That's a much more sensible argument, and if you'd clarified it 50 posts ago this thread would have been much shorter.
Regardless, how much you can trust any individual 20 year old depends on the 20 year old, obviously. Your argument once again boils down to
>she wasn't as cynical as me
You can't just blanket not trust any 20 year old if you're trying to run a business that employs them, or you'll spend so much on oversight that you'll never turn a profit. Especially if it's a business that requires a high degree of autonomy.
You might say that the fact that this happened at all is proof that you're not cynical, you're right, but how many other employed 20 year olds are there that don't do stupid shit like this every single day. This is clearly an outlier, not a commonality.
>>79897060
Ohohohoho...
Look who suddenly has an awareness of the increasing amount of degeneracy, vulgarity, and carelessness every generation.
Which would explain why I'm like, "duh..." in my cynicism and you're like, "It's 2016" in your excuses.
>>79894673
were they hacked?
>>79897146
You goys are the biggest fucking shit posters on /pol/, it's all true. I wish we could filter by flag.
>>79897146
>You can't just blanket not trust any 20 year old if you're trying to run a business that employs them, or you'll spend so much on oversight that you'll never turn a profit.
Lo and behold, herein lies a large part of the source of our economic problems.
But you don't want to acknowledge those because you're trying to fight age stereotyping.
>>79882626
the lady on the phone opened up with "you sound like you come from a place of privilege"
>>79897294
Every day until you like it.
>>79897408
>Lo and behold, herein lies a large part of the source of our economic problems.
So wait, what you're saying is that 20 year olds have been the same since 1642 at least in their shiftless and lazy ways, and yet the economic problems exclusive to today are caused by 20 year olds even though they haven't changed since 1642 at least?
Clarify for me.
>>79896919
>trolling tom green
Ah the memories....remember trolling Gamestop for Battletoads?
>>79897598
You're listening to the wrong phone call.
>>79879945
You didn't sound awkward. You sounded very professional. One example, when she said the person would prefer their gender remain anonymous, the way you curtly said "that's fine" sounded exactly a real researcher talks. They don't give a crap what the answers are and just doing their jobs asking a list of required questions.
>>79878798
Who cares? People say fuck in casual language at this point. It's basically a sweet bonus.
>>79878798
http://www.craveonline.com/design/1006111-donald-trump-supporters-trash-custom-t-shirt-stores-yelp-reviews-f-message
>Here's a selection of the one-star reviews that have been posted to the site since the video was uploaded, many of which now directly accuse the store's owners/staff of being racist. No accusation of racism was made by the video uploader:
>"My wife's boyfriend's autistic son had a custom Trump shirt made here. He had received the shirt and was so excited to get home and wear it, but upon closer inspection it had something very derogatory written on the bottom inside. It literally has "F**K YOU." written on there, it brought the poor little guy to tears. Beyond disgraceful. His whole independence day holiday weekend has been ruined thanks to Bang-On."
>>79897615
I'm saying that there is only so much accommodation we can make in our hiring standards as business owners to maintain our businesses if the bar is lowered every year.
>>79895296
>I don't have an argument.
You made a statement and are defending it. thats what we call an argument ya dingo dipshit. A weak one at that because everything you say is based on feelings you estrogen filled fuck.
https://foursquare.com/v/bangon-custom-tshirts/4c005b6c379020a14262467f
>>79897621
Yeah, now it seems /b/ is just an absolute pit of awefulness, i'm not saying it was ever good, but now it's like it's only purpose is containment.
>>79897817
I stated my opinion, anon.
Anon replied with "no your opinion is wrong because..."
I disagree with his reasoning, so yes, I guess there technically does exist an argument, but I'm not trying to advance any position. I'm defending my opinion from criticisms that don't make sense.
>everything you say is based on feelings
Point to a single objective statement supported by empirical evidence made by anyone in this entire thread that's relevant to this argument.
A single one.
Protip: you can't, because this entire argument is wholly and entirely about feelings to begin with.
>>79897815
>the bar is lowered every year
Has it been lowered every year since 1642?
>>79897689
Thanks, next time a story blows up I'll do something similar.
>>79880831
They'd probably spit in it
>>79898130
>Has it been lowered every year since 1642?
Has generational conflict only been a thing since the Great Depression?
>>79879758
Kek this was well done, the accent gives you literally a free pass for credibility from the BBC. I can't believe you got Shlomo Shekelstein out without a giggle.
Ruh-roh
>Bang-On T-Shirts California LLC is a California Domestic Limited-Liability Company filed on September 26, 2003. The company's filing status is listed as Franchise Tax Board (Ftb) Suspended / Forfeited
>>79898317
>“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”
t. Socrates
You tell me.
If generations have been getting progressively worse since 1642 at least why does the world enjoy the highest standards of pretty much everything either right now or only a generation or two ago?
>>79879758
Are you feeling the berrrrrrrnnnnnnnn!
i never understand why people put their beliefs/opinions in front of professionalism, at least with anti-gays you can jew anti jew evangelicals with a go fundme, all this is a losing battle
Here's mine
>>79898501
Because the preceding generations understood the importance of promoting literacy in as many subjects which could ever be relevant to your life as possible, while you all sat in high school and rolled your eyes at fractions and learning to spell words you'll "never use in real life".
>>79897905
literally all pornography now, it's really sad
>>79898733
>>79898744
>the preceding generations understood the importance of promoting literacy in as many subjects which could ever be relevant to your life as possible
How did they understand this if generations have been declining every generation since 1642 at least?
If the decline is only juuuust becoming noticeable now, then how can it possibly be of sufficient magnitude as to be the source of all our trials and tribulations? Especially considering 20 year olds are a fraction of the workforce, and barely represented at all in the "real" jobs?
You can keep clinging on to this ludicrous tangent all you like anon, but everyone can see you're increasingly suspended by your fingertips.
>>79898400
I'm curious if they are not paying their franchise taxes to California .
Eric Hedstrom is the officer listed on the tax filings and he has these other companies as well
>>79879758
The best part is that you got her to the reveal the person's gender. It was a she (cunt).
>>79898850
The pornography is pumped in to keep /b/ from doing /b/ things. Many old /b/tards migrated here, others elsewhere.
>>79890352
Lol ronnie d
>>79898142
Only way it would have been awkward is if you were American doing a fake accent. When your accent is genuine and you are calling up American people, they will never doubt you for a second. Any of us would be fooled hook line and sinker. Keep up the good work.
>>79899016
Because the decline is in attitude, which has nothing to do with accomplishment or success.
Because... ultimately... We collectively shut down businesses that receive sympathetic responses for being ignorant of circumstances and promote businesses which practice successful business practices.
>>79893445
giga kek
>>79887162
>>79899288
>Because the decline is in attitude, which has nothing to do with accomplishment or success.
So the decline can only be measured in terms of how you specifically feel about the world today?
If that's the case how can you measure it dating back to 1642, which I presume you weren't alive for?
>We collectively shut down businesses that receive sympathetic responses for being ignorant of circumstances and promote businesses which practice successful business practices.
Well then you can call me back when Bang-On winds up with evidence that the wind-up was caused by too much sympathy.
I won't wait up.
>>79899016
>If the decline is only juuuust becoming noticeable now
Trust me, it isn't.
You don't have to be an old man to know that if you give a mouse a cookie they will want a glass of milk.
These are rules of thumb. They sound ridiculous to you because you haven't had the experience to see that they're based on intuitive statistical figures.
>>79878798
San Franciscans are the scum of the planet.
The most judgmental and vindictive people you'll ever meet.
>>79899177
Makes sense, I remember seeing a few posts about how outside groups are subverting and pacifying the old fun boards with degenerate shit. Either the members disperse (and lose power) or stay and get manipulated by degeneracy.
Such a disgusting enemy we face.
>>79881358
>>79881358
>>79899714
>Trust me, it isn't.
Considering that supposedly the only way to measure this decline in attitude is through your feelings on the subject I don't really have a choice otherwise, do I?
But then you'd have to show that this decline in attitude is actually responsible for our current economic woes, which would be hard to do seeing as you can't actually prove the decline exists due to an inability to measure it, nor can you prove it causes economic harm due to an inability to define it.
>>79899595
What causes all of this Trump hate?
Is it because he's actually as racist as liberals want us to believe or is it because they want us to believe he is more racist than he actually is?
I'm going with the latter, and it might sound cliche, but when I was your age we did the same shit and spun it around just the same.
>>79898733
>>79880831
yessss. We'll use liberal media tactics against libtards
>>79900000
QUINTS
>>79900000
1/10
>>79900000
>when I was your age we did the same shit and spun it around just the same.
This doesn't sound like strong evidence that this generation is part of a precipitous decline in 'attitude' resulting in economic harm if the behaviour of it was mirrored in previous generations, anon.
>>79900000
QUINTS OF TRUTH
>>79881131
You guys should have listened to Chimpout Radio back in the day. There was a guy called UK Darkie Destroyer who would call t-shirt shops asking them to print shirts saying 'Trayvon Martin got justice' and asked for them to add 'a big red bullet hole in the middle'. He would also call hardware stores and ask if they sold chains strong enough to stop his nigger slaves from running away.
