Dear Brexitfags, how do you explain this? These are your fearless leaders? How can one movement be so spineless? This will go down the annals as a crusade of cowardly, ignorant swine.
Not an iota of centralized planning, no direction, no ideas. Just "muh good old days."
L O L
>>79874734
boris is not a leader, he literally did nothing
and farage did already everything he had to, what did you expect him to do next faggot?
>>79875948
Run for Prime Minister, you relentless faggot. After steering the country into a black hole, they're washing their hands of trying to figure out what exactly to do with the retarded decision they forwarded.
>>79876780
The next parliament election is years away, far beyond the time article 50 will have been invoked.
By exactly what authority do you expect an EU mep to lead or negotiate anything relating to BREXIT?
It is almost like you people have no understanding of how power actually works in a democracy
>>79876780
>having no idea how british politics work
>teling farage what he could do
he couldn't even run for a PM you fucking mongrel even if he wanted to, as he is not an elected MP meaning he is not a member of the parliament
>>79874734
>>79876780
Something of a false narrative has gathered pace recently, especially amongst foreign posters. It states that Boris/Nige have jumped ship, and absolved themselves of any responsibility for their actions.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Boris wanted power more than anything. He has spent the last 20 years of his life outmanoeuvring his opponents with quite extraordinary guile and ruthlessness. Similarly, Nige has sought to attain a small degree of power, having run for parliament seven times (and all on occasions unsuccessfully).
However, Boris was stabbed in the front by his fellow Vote Leave campaigner, Michael Gove, who announced his candidacy on the day on which Boris was set to make his speech. In so doing, Gove made it impossible for Boris to attract the sort of support needed to make a halfway plausible bid for the Conservative leadership. As for Nige: well, his job is done, and, having failed thus far to attain a seat in parliament, the power that he has is actually very limited.
This idea that they have acted spinelessly and/or cowardly is quite extraordinary, and, in fact, the opposite of the truth, given Boris's quite obvious desire for power, and the fearlessness with which Farage has campaigned for Brexit.
A little research would, no doubt, have given you some insight into the reality of the situation.
>>79876780
>I have no idea how UK politics work
Seems about right for a probe EU cuck
>>79877298
>In so doing, Gove made it impossible for Boris to attract the sort of support needed
That's the old Churchill spirit! We shall fight them on the beaches... unless they fight back in a way that makes our position seem less than bulletproof; in which case, we'll surrender.
Boris, having fucked things up royally, has gone back to his lucrative sinecure at the Telegraph, from which sheltered position he can lob grenades at the people left to do the actual work.
and hence
>2 posts by this id
>>79877925
The point is that Boris realised, having consulted members of Parliament, that he really stood absolutely no chance. It has nothing to do with him being cowardly, nor even a sign that things will be necessarily that much more difficult to govern now that we're leaving the EU (the jury is still out there).
>>79874734
Not even reddit falls for this shit
>>79877298
>>79874734
>A little research would, no doubt, have given you some insight into the reality of the situation.
I don't need research when I've got the media telling me how and what to think.
>>79878731
Bullshit. He knew he didn't have a plan to deliver Brexit, certainly not one that would appeal to those of a swivel-eyed persuasion (read his Telegraph article from the 1st Monday post Brexit). In fact, he never really wanted, nor expected to win - only to come close enough that he could be crowned king by the party when Dave stepped down in a year or two.
However, he was left with a problem. He was the presumptive winner of any leadership contest. He couldn't refuse to run without all of this being obvious. Fortunately for him, Gove popped up and handed him a convenient exit. Which he took. Because he's a spineless twat.
>>79876780
>After steering the country into a black hole
that was Farage's job, now its time for the dogs to come in for the kill. Have fun Brits!
>>79879601
Thanks. And in the spirit of schadenfreude, enjoy El Presidente Trump.
Nigel Farage worked for 17 years to accomplish one goal stated from the beginning: to make Britain leave the EU.
He accomplished that goal. And now he stepped down.
It's called honour, you shill. Your basic arguments against Brexit are "What are your plans after?" as if the Remain party had good plans to compete against. Yeah "let's stay in the EU and bring in more potential terrorists from the Middle East and Africa and increase your bills and make all of your taxes go to sheltering ungrateful niggers" sounds like a great plan. How will the Brexiters EVER compete with that?
Nigger, if Nigel Farage said the next step of his master plan after leaving the EU was shoot Britain into the sun, I'd still support him because it would still be a better plan than what the EU had in mind.
>>79879999
Yeah, some men just want to watch the world burn. We get that. The thing is, it's less amusing in real life than when Heath does it.
>>79880353
Shut up you stupid cunt. There's no sense of wanting to destroy anything in the leave campaigners. They already see the EU as destroying itself. The leave campaign is about hope and about retaining a freedom and democracy which MILLIONS of people DIED for throughout history.
This one simple idea of freedom is the foundation and the basis for the success of everything you see around you in the modern world.
>>79880536
>There's no sense of wanting to destroy anything in the leave campaigners
I think you mean there's no sense of wanting to create anything. It's an easy mistake, I know. But you'll get the hang of it, I'm sure.
Unless, of course, you have access to the top secret white paper which maps out the future of post-Brexit Britain, but which nobody on the Leave side bothered to publish?
>>79874734
Farage stayed on begrudgingly after the last general election. He's wanted an out for a while and now his job is done. Sure there's more to do but he can still have a voice from the sidelines. Although there are some rumours going around that he might have something more substantial in his future.
Boris was nothing. Just a play for conservative leadership that didn't work out.
It's all going according to the keikaku m8.
The Anglo world turns Right and prospers, Europe turns Left and stalls flat, and the Middle East turns into a flaming pile of corpses with no pesky CNN Effect to get in the way.
Trump will win by about the same surprise last hour victory in the counting as Brexit.
>>79877925
Yes because interior party politics is absolutely comparable to a world war. What a fucking stupid analogy. By stopping back Boris has put himself in a position where he could potentially make another play for leadership down the road. I don't think he'll ever succeed but he's probably given himself more of a chance than Gove has.
>>79881993
>Farage stayed on begrudgingly after the last general election
Translation: Having lost a fifth successive GE (not counting the two BEs he also lost), Farage chucked in the towel. Then, a couple of days later when he was scrubbing his unmentionables in the shower, he suddenly remembered: In Out Referendum!
>Oh noes! My party has begged me to come back.
>>79880969
Sounds like you're just a naive EU cocksucker that doesn't know what an assfucking he was in for. Or maybe you did know, and that's exactly what you wanted.
Well sorry to break it to you, homo. It's freedom time.
>>79880536
>hope
Really?
>brexit, yes we can
You sound like every simple little fucker who had his stunted critical faculties eaten away through blindly adopting an agenda without thinking through the ramifications.
I am not even against brexit, but if you need such retardedly nebulous and emotion laden terms to defend your position you either need to do your homework or otherwise rethink your opinion...
>>79882559
I don't see anything wrong with that, frankly. You're just proving my point that it makes perfect sense he resigned now.
>>79882762
I was for Brexit before Brexit even existed. Regardless what stupid campaign slogans they used (which you seem to remember better than me, so who really is more malleable by it?), Brexit stood for an ideal that is age old and doesn't need some corporate shills to reiterate. Sovereignty and autonomy breeds strength.
>>79882328
>By stopping back Boris has put himself in a position where he could potentially make another play for leadership down the road
Discretion, dear boy. Better part of valour and all that!
Fuck off. If you campaign to drag the country out of Europe, and you win, then you damn well better grow a pair and fight like a man for the right to lead the country to freedom. Otherwise, you just seem a little bit like a chancer who needs to change his pants.
>>79876780
I appoligize for my retarded countryman.
>Purple ID
>Dislikes UKIP
Wew lad
>>79880536
>The leave campaign is about hope and about retaining a freedom and democracy which MILLIONS of people DIED for throughout history.
hahah! SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THE BS THEY TELL US IN AMERICA M8!
>>79882998
I'm guessing you were stockpiling canned goods during the Jade Helm crisis.
>>79877137
not so sure, they will activate article 50 ever. first they said, right after the referendu, then when the new PM is in charge, boris said: let's not rush it, gove: let's negotiate first, before we activate (even though the EU said they would never do that), May said, she would at the end of the year (buying time, if you ask me). my guess now: in 4-5 months when everything has calmed down, they will find a way and reason to stay in...
>>79882998
Its not about the simple campaign terms. Political messaging needs to be simple.
Its that if you cannot transcend this simplistic understandings of complex situations, you don't have an opinion worth listening to.
In other words, its the fact that you cannot conceive of this in anything less than the most ideologically driven and emotive terms without having anything else to back your position which makes you seem retarded.
>Any understanding of policy and economic effects?
>fuck that noise, seems too hard, and I speak freedom motherfuckers
pathetic.
>>79883090
If you thought Boris was doing anything other than vying for Tory leadership from the beginning then you're a fool and not worth listening to. If was obvious, I don't know why you're so angry about him acting true to character.
>>79883582
I agree with everything you've said, except for the last part. I don't see a way we can get out of this one, unfortunately. We are currently watching in super slow motion as the bullet travels inexorably towards our foot.
>>79883788
>man doesn't read thread
>gets mad for literally no reason
>such is life in communist /pol/
>>79882998
Also you blundering thundercunt, I was highlighting the similar language you were using to that which carried the 2009 US presidential election. Which you probably don't even remember.
>>79883582
Staying in is highly unlikely unless the entire party is willing to commit political suicide. They're clearly going to try and leave in name alone though.
My apologies for this fatty mcfaggot op. He seems to have lost his way wit.. from america. His understanding what these two men sought out to do clearly shows what out public k-12 school system will teach you.
Do not respond to him and carry on.
>>79880536
>>79883385
notice they want democracy AT THE VERY MOMENT WHEN BRITAIN IS OVERRUN BY MUSLIMS.
the only groups that's going to prevail in this case are 1) Muslims 2) very wealthy capital owners.
Dear Leavers, how do you explain this?
>>79884431
Explain what? Even if all of those rejected ballots were remain, leave still wins.
>>79884125
While we have far too many Muslims and they are going to swamp us they aren't quite there yet. It does seem an inevitability at this point though because I fail to see any solution that isn't too extreme to be considered by a significant enough portion of people. The more time goes on the more correct the policy of forced repatriation becomes but the NF and BNP blew their load on it too early and scuppered any chances in future where it might have found enough support.
>>79883826
>>79884064
there might be a new scotland referendum, NI referendum, idk terrorist attack, major drop in the currency rating, health care crisis, pension cuts....something that makes everyone understand emotionally it is better to stay. the thing is, no one is winning anything from the brexit...at least I can't think of anyone.
Dear shitposters, how do you explain this?
>>79884431
>>79884431
There are times when the deadlock of US politics makes me despair. And then there are times, like now, when I think, fuck yeah. Supermajority, bitch!
Why such an important decision was allowed on a simple majority defies logic.
>>79884599
haha so the brits at this point realize theyre in deep shit and cant do anything about it.
LOLOLOLOL
>>79884650
I think Scotland and NI are already gone. Gibraltar too in a decade when they see the economic reality.
I would like to believe that these, and the many other negative consequences will be enough to pull us back from the brink. But at this point in time, I just don't see it. Here's to you, optimistic Germany! I hope you're right.
>>79882042
>The Anglo world turns Right and prospers, Europe turns Left and stalls flat, and the Middle East turns into a flaming pile of corpses with no pesky CNN Effect to get in the way.
Except the EU is turning right.
In Austria the "extreme right" almost won the elections.
>>79885268
yep theyre going to have National Socialist govs
and Britian will be la la land for the uber wealthy to rob whover they want around the world.
>>79885268
>In Austria the "extreme right" almost won the elections.
They still might win. The results were annulled.
>>79885231
just give it a few months, the world will look different. maybe they will call for an early election, too...
>>79885476
>The results were annulled.
by WHO?
>>79885231
>NI are already gone
ENTER IRA to capitalize on all that discontent!
do you really think Northern Ireland is going to exist as it's own country? hahahaha! it's a colony of the english.
>>79886140
>do you really think Northern Ireland is going to exist as it's own country?
Uh... no. It's going to be part of a unified Ireland.
Any other questions you need clearing up?
>>79886386
how are they going to manage that?
>>79886386
do you honestly believe that the northern irish have enough political power and military power to defend this little piece of land that does nothing and produces nothing and only exists so that the english can have a land presence in Ireland?
>>79874734
> Not an iota of centralized planning
> Centralized Planning
Is that like a Marxist Freudian slip or something?
>>79886594
>>79886647
>NI voted to be part of Europe.
>Eire is part of Europe.
>The existence of NI is predicated on a tie to mainland Britain that is stronger than the tie to Eire
This vote puts that equation seriously out whack.
>>79886020
austria's constitutional court
>>79886993
>This vote puts that equation seriously out whack.
sure does
think of how many loyalists and on-the-fencers there are in N. Ireland.
enough certainly to embolden the IRA to action once again.
>>79887181
>austria's constitutional court
what is the law there?
no right wing governments allowed?
>>79887458
You really don't seem to get the point. Let me spell it out in Uh-Merry-Can:
The IRA will not have to fire a shot to win back the north. All they will have to do is defend it from the loyalists. And they've got some credibility on that front.
>>79886993
Association Fallacy much? NI voted for more gimmedats, just like Merseyside but not like Scotland where independence was also a factor.
>>79887804
>The IRA will not have to fire a shot to win back the north. All they will have to do is defend it from the loyalists. And they've got some credibility on that front.
perhaps. but I wouldnt say terrorism is out of the question. Im sure the english have investments there they don't want to see evaporate.
you seem to be arguing that N. Ireland will go back to RoI.
>>79887512
what? no
the second round got overturned because the FPÖ (right wing party whose candidate narrowly lost) made a 152 page request to the constitutional court because there might have been unlawful things going on in the election (like rigging votes) and the constitutional courts investigation found several things that were unlawful, so they ruled that the second round between Hofer and Van der Bellen has to be repeated nationwide
Denial is now a river in the "United" Kingdom. The only river, in fact.
