I want to know what was life like during the USSR
hell former East Germans are allowed
White.
Wolga German from Kazakhstan here.
Live was sometimes harsh and hard but overall we, atleast our village/region, had it really good. People in western countries are rotten, greedy, soulless, cold etc.
>>79870071
The -stans in general got completely fucked over by the collapse of the USSR from what I know.
>>79869668
Typically, it sucked, because communism is bad.
>>79869668
my family had an all expense paid for vacation to Siberia thanks to Stalin
>>79869668
I lived in Russia for a year, despite all the memes it was surprisingly normal. . . just sort of sleepy, kind of like a number of slightly shabby but comfy midwestern towns.
>>79870071
alright
noice
>>79870225
Yes the Soviets gave us stans many stuff, work was there for everyone. After the collapse everything broke a part, people started drinking. Police was fucking corrupt, almost anarchy till 1996...
>>79870266
spoken like a true burger
It wasn't that bad in the 80s from what I remember
>>79870533
apparently they had some nice music during the 80s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GfgA4jWfso
>>79870071
You're rotten and greedy, people under communism became evil especially the citizens. You are soulless.
>>79870739
I was young, but yeah it was pretty good. Much better than it is now desu
my fav still are the groups
sector gaza and Kino(Viktor zoi)
>>79870740
This, and the peacocking about and showing off your pair of jeans your uncle somehow got from overseas or you got from sucking a guy off in an alley was on another level.
Something similar to feeling hip and cool walking around in your pre-war hat in some post-apocalyptic fantasy
>>79869668
Latvian. Lived in the 80s and saw it all go to shit.
Look. All those people that say near 100% employment and what not are completely right.
However you have to understand key things. Firstly the goverment was not capable of micromanaging the supply and demand curve anywhere near as well as a free-market. I know I lived through it.
I lived through the lines for hours for the most basic things like meat. I had it good because I had relatives in farming so I always had eggs and milk, but for people in cities it was even harder.
Once the places like Poland wanted independence, Latvia, an agricultural behemoth (at least considering its landmass and population) that before the USSR had huge exports of Bacon for example suffered near famine as nearly all of the food produced was sent to places that were starting to want independance, particularly Poland in hopes of raising their quality of life just enough so they would stay.
It was a mess. A complete and utter mess. My grandparents had to wait nearly 10 years just to get a car, but people still had bars of soviet soap years after its collapse because because the goverment produced too much of that.
Communism does not work. Collectivised means of production work very very very rarely.
If I had to sum up how I and my parents view the USSR it would be that no matter what problems Latvia faced in the pst. And no matter what problems it faces now. It was never as bad as what people had to Endure in the USSR.
If you have any questions feel free to ask.
>>79870495
The burgers are right, communism is evil.
>>79871529
this may seem like a dumb question,
but what was the internet like?
>>79871736
Internet was not in the USSR in the 80s and very early 90s.
Was it anywhere in the 80s?
>>79871736
By god that's prolly the stupidest thing I've read for awhile.
If it was posted under any other flag I would assume you was joking.
>>79872060
i dont know
i did find this website from the soviet union which is
http://www.php.su/
>>79871529
>10 years car meme
Dunno, my parents had a brand new lada and there were tons of them.
Looks like a problem in the european part of the CCCP?
>>79872153
nice ID.
>>79872245
".su was assigned as the country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for the Soviet Union (USSR) on 19 September 1990. Even though the Soviet Union itself was dissolved a mere 15 months later, the .su top-level domain remains in use today. It is administered by the Russian Institute for Public Networks (RIPN, or RosNIIROS in Russian transcription)."
The internet existed for the last 15 months. So I guess no normies ever used the internet back then.
![bca3a4f288d72c8b74fb02f8c96263c7[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1gk4PSl.png "bca3a4f288d72c8b74fb02f8c96263c7[1].png")
>>79872060
and it seems as if internet was introduced to the soviets in 1990
>>79872477
Whoops wrong guy meant the burger asking about internet.
>>79872245
>lived in russia as a kid pre 2000
>all those lada, schiguli, volga
>those busses with motors that sounded like a group from /fit/ playing bowling with their dumbbells
ah great times...
>>79871529
Were there any communist apologists in your town back then like there are now, or was everyone aware of how backwards it was?
>>79871736
bait
>>79872245
Really? Maybe your parents had special rights or something.
Were they secret informers or did they have a mid/hgh rankin beirocratic job?
>>79872759
*beurocratic
Sorry typing on my Iphone that I got by working in my glorius free market society.
>>79872553
There still are, especially in the Russian side, more especially in the old Russian and the non-citizen one.
Don't get me wrong, there probably are many Latvians too, for example, a tractor driver who used to dump diesel in the ditch and drink vodka for the rest of the day now can't really do jack shit and live carelessly, that's just one silly example
but all in all, I think yeah
>>79872539
dont forget the zaparozhet. It was actually bette than the trabant kek.
My grandpa had one of those
>>79872759
dunno, my father was the driver of some general while he was in the army...
but in the 80s everyone had a car in our village
>>79872982
>zaparozhet
HOLY FUCK i totally forgot about that one
>called that thing "zhoparoshez", crudely translated to "assface"
free land to build anything you want after the war , free education, the things where build to last, and generally we formed very diferrent mentality from the west with less stress and selfishness
>>79872553
The only people who liked the sytem were those who directly benifited from it really.
Because of Communism Beurocracy was extensive. So the richest people were those with mid/high beurocratic jobs.
They did not necessarily get payed mich more. But for example they got assigned better houses. They were higher up on waiting lists for example. So many of those people supported it for example. Not necessarily for ideological reasons (people who actually believed communism were very rare) but for the financial and societal benefits listed above.
>>79872919
>>79873318
I see, thanks for the insight.
Just as shity as today.
You had a job and money but nothing to on them.
To buy something good you had to wait a giant line still nothing changed.
Today at least you can speack about the bullshit without fear and you can travel around the world unlike just in union.
My Dad was a pioneer(Comie Youth) says it was brainwashing program he regrets being there.
Television was complete political garbage and watching "illegal" west movies was much more entertaining than watching same shit all the time.
And if some one asking im half-russian.
>>79872982
A whole town where nearly everybody had cars? Hmmm. Either your town is remote so the goverment made it easier to get cars. Or everybody waited in your town for their car. Or the likely idea that it was simply easier wherever you were in to get a car.
Stuff like that would be very rare in Latvia at least.
>>79873592
Drīzāk džeks ar nostaļģiju pārņemts, nu neticās par tām mašīnām, vai nu ja saka taisnību, tad tā bija dislocēto militāro vienību pārstāvju kāda no sēņu pilsētām, tiem jau neko nežēloja
>>79873318
This. In capitalism, if you obtain money, you can do things. Want to drop out of society and live on a farm? Fine, just be able to pay your bills.
In Communism, everything in your life is the result of a judgment from the central government. If they like you, good. If they don't, then the food you eat and clothes you wear will suck.
>>79872919
In modern times yeah. Russians are the majority who would support a return to the USSR. But from my experience that is less because they liked communism, but more because back then they were the ruling class of Latvia. And now they have fallen from grace.
>>79873791
Varbūt. Bet beidzam lietot mūsu slepeno valodu, jo dēļ tā ka mēs vairs nedzīvojam padomju savienībā tehnoloģiskais progress nozimē, ka var vienkārši kāds šo gūgla transleitā iekopēt un visu saprast. Varbūt mums darīt kā slīp acainajiem divi čanā un ar bildēm sazināties lai ārzemnieki mūs nesaprot tik viegli?
>>79873835
In capitalism, if the government likes you then you don't have to go to prison.
>>79873881
I've actually met different personas from so called Russian youth here, those who know both Latvian, Russian and even others, call themselves Latvians, content with most of the things and some who maybe understand Latvian, wear those abysmal orange-black strips of cloth on 9th of May, accompanied with disdainful views of the country.
But I think in the following decade or so, as the generations come and go, the first kind will prevail
>>79869668
I'm from communist Cuba.
Everything was shit, but now we have the same faces in politics and the corruption is slightly better hidden
>>79873835
There are in Latvia obvious problems to our gradual transition to the free-market. But anybody who sais that under comminism it was better. Then through time they have to had forgotten how brutal and depressing the situation actually was.
>>79869668
TL;DR
1. Poverty
2. 10 cents/hour minimal wage
3. Everything overregulated
4. You were mocked for having anything
5. Absolute lack of toilet paper
10/10 would live there again
>>79874349
Tad jau drīzāk jālieto senlatviešu rakstu zīmes, ja pats īsti nesaproti ko tās nozīmē, svešais noteikti paliek ar garu degunu. Ja godīgi PSRS nemaz neesmu dzīvojis, bet esmu "uzsūcis" dažādus viedokļus, stāstus, pieredzi no tā laika studentiem, politikā iesaistītajiem u.c.
>>79874499
In the USSR if the goverment liked you then absolutely jack shit would happen to you.
In the USSR somebody like Trump would suddenly get sick from the flu. Go to a hospital and leave without any organs.
>>79873881
All the old russian's i know are more mad about that they weren't given citizenship after the dissolution. They have a chance to get go and get the citizenship but they are too proud to do it. The young russian are not all retarted but there are allot.
>>79870740
>You're rotten and greedy, people under capitalism became evil especially the citizens. You are soulless.
fixed it for you leaf.
>>79874743
Es dzīvoju pašās beigās tikai. Es viss labāk atceros 90s gadus. Man bija kādi pieci gadi kad sabruka, bet vecāki man visu ir izstāstijušu par situāciju kāda bija.
>>79869668
ask these guys
>>79875143
What? They have meat!
>>79869668
it was fucking EPIC
>>79871529
Nice try, capitalist Jew shill. ((((baltics)))))
>>79874841
really makes u think
>>79875143
I thought that was an image from the civil war?
Not USSR but my grandparents stories of life during the 50s-80s in communist China they both lived in small and rural villages for them live wasn't so bad since everyone in the area were related by common ancestry there was lenient oversight due to a couple guys in the village having fought for the commies but even then barely any work got done grandpa would steal rice seeds and have his own garden a mile away from town everyone lived together it was like a prison everyone ate food at the same time at a communal cafeteria like place and through most of the day there was someone keeping a eye on you either someone appointed by the local government or your co-workers. Generally life was a bit better than the past. Your mail was always checked one guy was arrested for trying to talk to his family to help him get into HK, houses were searched occasionally, bad projects caused a famine for a while people got food smuggled from HK. There was public education that wasn't there before things got better after the 70s though
>>79875304
They finally came
My Ma' always said lack of variety was the worst thing about the USSR. But job security was the best.
>>79874973
We had communist lite parties running most of our provinces (80% of funding our feds are but a shell) so we've seen what socialism does. We went from 20% interest rates runaway inflation and sky high debt to balanced budgets and one of if not the highest standard of living in the world in two decades. This is why Canadians love Reagan and Thatcher.
>>79875304
Shoo shoo Ivan.
You are just Salty that nobody fucking cares about you or your people after the fall of the (((Soviet Union))) so now you are throwing temper tantrums at countries.
How are you still in the second stage of grief after your empire fell?
>>79875376
Definitely NOT. unless you are talking about some other civil war that I don't know about.
either way I want to know the story behind it
>>79875143
ITT: The word "communism" abused by those brainwashed by the bolshevik opportunists that misappropriated the word.
>>79874499
That's not capitalism.
>>79875498
RIDF must finally be experiencing manpower issuses after their budget was cut to siphen even more money into Russian Billionaire accounts.
>>79869668
It was ok. Free education, free medical care, a guaranteed job were among good things. There were a lot of shitty things too. First 10 years after the crash were horrendous. That's probably the reason there're still a lot of nostalgia commie fucks out there on the post-soviet space.
>>79875498
>>79875710
Ousting these shills as disingenuous dogmatists took literally one bait post lmao.
OP, Don't ever bother trying to get an honest answer out of non-Russians, as their political sentiment is always going to be, at least in part, fueled by their inferiority complex that they've developed as a result of our having dominated them for as long as we have.
>>79875716
I believe that picture is from the Ukrainian famine in the 1930s after collectivization. They took all the peasants' produce, seeds and farming equipment in the name of the state. Millions died of starvation, so to survive they turned to cannibalism. First they would eat corpses, but a few would kidnap children and eat them, which is what is shown in that picture.
Communism: not even once.
>>79875802
Enlighten me. Does a country where all industry and agriculture was collectivised and where almost no property was actually owned by people and instead given out by the state in order to stop few people from accumulating too much wealth sound just a tiny bit communist?
>>79872153
>you was
lrn2/English
>>79876181
inferiority complex is something these shitstains of countries all seem to suffer, someone should research that, it's getting really annoying
>>79876334
that's siege of Leningrad, where your beloved nazis and finns tried to starve people to death, nice try
>>79876618
>mfw people here say 'you was' unironically
>>79876181
>>79876716
Enlighten me Ivan and potential Ivan alt. Why do you unironically defend the USSR?
>>79876348
Not in the slightest. That is central state socialism. If you lived under "communism" which commune did you belong to exactly? None, because there weren't any. If you want examples of communism then try the early kibbutzim or the those set up by the Makhnovists in Ukraine - and destroyed by the bolsheviks because they were not true communists at all.
Recommend Noam Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" on how this Big Lie took seed.
>people ITT unironically defending communism
kek. Tell that to the 50 million Russians or 100 million Chinese that fell victim to its poisonous and sacrilegious clutches.
>>79869668
First, you have to understand that not everything is black and white, therefore the burger answer "gomunism sucks", is invalid.
Back in the day there was a thing called Corecom, it was a shop in which you could buy western goods (consumer goods). When in the west the consumer revolution started (expensive technological stuff becoming cheap and by this allowing entrepreneurship for even more technological stuff) the model of a centralized organism which regulated the economy became obsolete, this is why the USSR started to copy Apple. Then people in charge started to understand that thing were changing
On the other hand the shift to an economy based in services destroyed the centralized system even more, because in the service sector you cannot size the means of production, and if you try to you end up with government employees, which are lazy as fuck and produce nothing.
The entire centralized system crashed, despite the fact that the industry was doing more or less good.
In the 90´s the people who saw this, the ones who were in charge, started to grab as much as they were able to (the oligarchs), this created the massive inflation and the 90´s and the anarchy. All the good industry, was ripped a part and was sold for pennies because the oligarchs are not entrepreneurs and wanted the money. The factories were not competitive anyway, but at least people was employed there.(thanks globalists)
>>79875376
It's a photo from the Holodomor.
Soviet Russia basically engineered a famine to starve out Ukraine, more or less a genocide.
Cannibalism was a common desperate last resort as there was nothing to eat, people even plundered graveyards, some ate from a "body" which hadn't yet stopped moving.
>>79877171
Socially speaking in the golden era of the USSR and the eastern bloc (60´70´) was close to a utopia, (no cucklordy, family values) if you were not a: dissident, relative to a dissident or part of a family which opposed the soviets, the last case placed you in a shity job and the bureaucracy machine was like a whip for you. The empty shelves only happened during WW2 and the late 80´s.
>>79875716
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cannibalism_during_Russian_famine_1921.jpg
>>79876958
Franco should have purged you. See
>>79877186
Thank you Swedebro for confirming
>>79876334
>>79877171
Eat a dick, you pro-commie waste of space
>>79877063
Because it was advancing tech development.
>>79877501
B-b-but it failed after the americans started to actually try.
>>79870071
Fuck off back then you cunt.
>>79875802
>but that's not REAL communism
Every time.
>>79877627
How did it fail exactly if NASA still buys Soviet engines for their rockets?
Buddy, no one actually over 18 browses pol
>>79877763
In every other way except that.
>>79876716
If by "research" you mean re-appropriate them into the Russian Federation (or its regional equivalent), then absolutely.
>>79877063
I don't, I just like to elicit the guaranteed anti-Russian component of any given political deceleration made by the denizens of former satellite states. In doing so, I'm hoping this board will finally start to understand that, even when the conclusions are correct, the primary drive behind X and Y political sentiment of said denizens is always going to be tribalist/ideological, not intellectual in nature.
>>79877311
I might have mixed it up with the Russian's own famine, they're fairly similar.
See also The Great Leap Forward
Gommunism causes an awful lot of starvation and cannibalism.
>>79877665
Past your bedtime and the adults are debating serious issues.
>>79877801
Nobody....
That includes you!!!!
MODS
>>79877763
When all of the money you had in your coffers goes towards making a space-capable machine, then you better believe you're going to get a quality product. Don't worry about the starving people in the countryside though, they were probably bourgeoisie anyway :^)
>>79877935
>communists
>adults
>facebook memes
W E W
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>>79878004
There were starving people in the US until the 70's, that's why HFCS was developed :^)
>>79877763
The Soviets took Nazi scientists after the war in the same way that the Americans did. It's really German ingenuity that the Ruskis just borrowed.
>>79877919
Yup. Great Leap Forward caused something like 50 million people to die in 3 years. Then to make matters worse Mao indoctrinated a generation of students into his poisonous ideology, see Cultural Revolution.
I've seen that picture in a documentary about communism and its evils before. Cited it to be during one of the Russian famines. It could have been anywhere in that region though. In fact Lenin wrote that famine was good, as it weakened the people's faith in God and would therefore make them more susceptible to the ideas of communism. Thank God Lenin went mad and died a horrible death.
>>79869668
My mother in law used to have to stand in bread lines when she was younger. They lived in a fairly large government apartment in Moscow, but could only afford to furnish and heat one room.
>>79878187
>The Soviets took Nazi scientists after the war in the same way that the Americans did. It's really German ingenuity that the Ruskis just borrowed.
Nazi scientists stole the idea of rockets from the chinese. It's really Chinese ingenuity that the germans just borrowed.
>>79872202
Anybody can register a .su domain right now. The domain is still active. In fact, I just registered one last March.
>>79877456
God fucking dammit you Americans are so near-sighted and obnoxious.
>>79869668
Capitalism > Communism > Multiculturalism
I guess better than today but worse than how things should work
My German teacher in school was from east Berlin during the communist rule. Apparently, the waiting list for a car was 17-18 years, so people used to put their children on the waiting list as soon as they were born.
She lived close enough to the wall itself that she could hear people who were attempting to break through the wall being shot, or at least shot at. This was a regular thing, especially at night.
Apparently, some guy with a wooden leg came to her house and asked her mother if there was anyway to get through the wall. Few days later, they receive news that same gay had taken out all of the seats in a car,, but all of his family in the car, and then drove straight through the wall. My german teacher's mother was frantically rubbing the wooden leg marks off the floor in the house.
>>79878694
nice
>>79877882
I try to keep my eventual assesment of the USSR as devoid of Tribalistic sentiment as possible my memories of the hardship me and my prents had to endure in the USSR are not influenced by Tribalism. Obviously you cant completely seperate your opinions from your biases. But likewise you, must view the USSR in a less unfavorable light due to the fact that the USSR was really just run by Russians, with Russians in non majority Russian regions usually given special treatment.
For Russians the USSR was not so bad because it meant that all members of the comy-block were being tought Russian and was essentially all orbiting Russia. Which is why on average Russians like the USSR more than the non Russians for your people it was your peak. The Iron Curtain was the greatest Russian Borders ever extended to and probably the greatest they ever will again.
So I think it is unfair of you disregarding non-Russian views on the USSR when in reality it would be just as easy for us to ignore yours.
>>79871736
Bahahahhaha Bro nice bait 8/10
>>79879309
>For Russians the USSR was not so bad because it meant that all members of the comy-block were being tought Russian and was essentially all orbiting Russia. Which is why on average Russians like the USSR more than the non Russians for your people it was your peak.
But is it really such a big deal for tiny non-nations? You're going to learn the language of whoever is in charge of your country: Russian, German, English, Chinese, Arabic. There's only a handful to choose from. No one is going to learn your language.
>>79879309
I'm just memeing bro desu
I'm just so tired of all the slavic infighting recently (even on this board, filled with people who should supposedly be enlightened). All the leaders are shitty and we're all just victims of the same shitty system maaaan, as contrived as that sounds.
Nationalists in these necks of the woods are all just useful idiots.
>>79872553
Everyone loved communism. Getting shot by milice and rotting away in jail was not the kind of thing you wanted to experience.
>>79875802
>not real communism
Oh fuck off. You sold us out to Stalin after we defended your country.
>>79880032
True. But I would rather have the country be influenced by the least worst group if it has to be influenced by anybody.
I would rather the country have its politics independant from other countries influence in the first place, but I will also be pragmatic and realise that won't happen. Because if the Largest Economy in the world has its largest lobbying group be all about Supporting the existance of another country.
Then what fucking chance does Latvia have?
>>79880629
Oh sheeid my LIDF proxy wore off!
>>79869668
if poland was in the USSR before ww2 then i am related to some ? if not then IDK. i think my family had to rename themselves to have their last name end with a SKI at the end due to the popularity or affluence of those with that kind of a name. thats all i know about it since i lived my whole life in beaner-land california.
