>Main Religions (Netherlands)
>49.2% Non-Religious (Fedoras)
>24,4% Roman Catholic
>5.7% Protestant
>4.9% Islam
What happened since we left, Dutch?
>we left
You got BTFO and kicked out, son
>5.7% Protestant
There is absolutely no way that that statistic is real
>>79827699
And you got fedora'd in the process? Why?
Found a more accurate one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Netherlands
>>79827644
how the hell is it 5.7% protestant all the dutch immigrants that i knew who came to nz were strong protestants
What a tolerant and diverse land.
When will Sinterklaas convert to Islam?
>>79828559
maybe that's why they left
>>79828584
Maybe it'll convert to Judaism before that.
>>79828559
Blame weed.
>he believes in fairytales
>>79828757
>He believes in nothing
>>79829197
>believing in something without evidence, solely for the reason of happiness
>literally the blue pill
>>79829270
>He will never have happiness
You were forced to leave because we realised your religion was a scam for money, then the realisation broadened that this is true for most religions.
The worst moneygrabbers are those who claim to be grabbing with the hands of god.
>>79829343
I'm Atheist and the universe is my creator. I believe in something.
>>79829343
Is a drunk really happier than someone who at least knows he faces reality as is?
I for one wouldn't be able to dismiss the gnawing feeling that i'd be wasting my time on bullshit so easily.
>>79829478
>His countrymen will never give rise to Godly sorrowful beauty again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G34FTPzWO-M
>>79829343
>>79829588
>He doesn't even know it's bullshit
>>79827644
>4.9% Islam
How?
>>79829630
I can apply all of this to Islam and it would remain equally true
>>79829343
Fuck off with your hedonistic drivel, lowlife.
>>79829630
Based jew
>>79829750
>the belief that Jesus Christ was the Son of God
maybe you should have read the quote, you would've looked less silly.
>>79829788
>eudaimonia
is the same as
>pleasure
CHILD
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>>79829270
there is shitloads of evidence for people who truly research u retard
>>79829558
Do you have faith in anything though?
>>79827644
>4.9% Islam
No fucking way, I bet my city is already 35% Muslim.
>>79829884
>The most dangerous idea in human history and philosophy remains the belief that Muhammed was the Seal of the Prophets and was give the literal Recitation of God himself through Gabriel. And that is the most dangerous idea you will ever encounter...
I don't even need to change the rest
>>79829895
>truly research
Ive seen atheists say that, Ive seen muslims say that, Ive seen christians say that
Who did the "true research"? Oh, let me guess, you did, right?
>>79829895
>truly research
I think you mean 'agree without criticism' here
>>79829628
Last time we heeded a god's teachings we spared London, heh.
>>79830053
Stop shitting on your historical religion my brother. You have nothing to replace it with
>>79829743
The nice Fedoraism. It attracts sandniggers like a magnet.
>>79830174
>your historical religion
That would be Germanic paganism
>>79829712
I know right, the poor sods waste actual time and resources on a reward that never comes?
>>79830239
+1
And older shit too.
It might have been our shit but shit it remains.
>>79830285
How do you know it never comes?
>>79830326
>>79830239
That's when you were still behaving like niggers
We Christians civilised you ungrateful sods
>More catholics than protestants
>>79830453
I beg to differ
>>79830182
Must have been the reason you guys came here then
>>79830374
Lack of evidence in spite of countless years under human rule, countless pointless human deaths, a lot, if not most, of them Christian.
We don't forget history here, false promises tend to lose to proper administration.
>>79830453
Oh shut it, you're still niggers even while Christian.
Can't even face the problems you cause yourselves and blame the migration from the commonwealth on Europe.
"We dindu nuffin" should be the national british motto.
>>79827699
>You got BTFO
Not by you
>>79830568
it took those niggers out of mud huts into some better
>>79830568
>Niggers can never be civilised outside of White countries
No surprise there
>>79827644
I blame leftism and humanism
>>79830634
You're right
>>79830634
Also by us actually, we even got some nice horse-of-troy types of actions against you, but admittedly you managed a war on more fronts at once than any other before.
Well, managed in the sense that you survived long enough to start them.
The consequence was loss on most of them, including here.
>>79830669
Not an argument
>>79827644
Fuck off and take your Spanish rape babies with you.
>>79830672
So you admit that civilizing countries has nothing to do with Christianity?
Weren't we talking about how fedoraist NL has become? Are they this thermonuclear mad about how pathetic the country is?
>>79828757
You do realise atheists are for more prone to converte to islam then christians, right? It's precisely because Europe abandoned its christian values that they became the cuck fest, muslim land that they are today. The more fedoras you create, less likely you are to fight against the muslim invasion.
>>79830853
...Aren't we in a lot better, more relevant shape than our once-mighty overlord currently?
>>79827644
Islam will grow to 10% in 10 years. Then 20%, then 40%, etc. Our government is paying islamic rats to breed while dismantling churches and Christian schools and splitting up conservative communities.
>>79830630
>Lack of evidence in spite of countless years under human rule, countless pointless human deaths, a lot, if not most, of them Christian.
>pointless
You don't even believe in meaning. I don't know why you are using this word
>Lack of evidence
Is not evidence of absence
>We don't forget history here, false promises tend to lose to proper administration.
Tendencies =! refutations
>>79829270
>believing someone is Christian to be happy
>literally believing the first ones who called the jew "synagogue of satan" are blue pill
>posting DICKaprio instead of quality pepe
>>79830853
Moor pls, no need for these angry words. I know it's hard to see your former colony do twice as good as you, but you're always welcome here. I could use a toilet cleaner.
>>79830859
Sure, that's why Geert Wilders is leading the polls, right? Catholics are the actual cucks here.
>>79830901
If by relevant you mean by the degree of weedsmoking pedophilliac fedoraism then yes, definitely.
>>79830859
...Except that christianity is just a gateway drug so to speak?
The need for escapism is made evident by the need for religion, if they get disillusioned by christianity they're more prone to switch to other story-driven drivel.
>>79830004
The cities are blacked, the countryside isnt
Also
Press F to pay tributs to the fallen city where you live
F
>>79830801
Only civilising White countries
Not even the Roman Empire could prevent being destroyed by literally White niggers
>>79829588
You're wasting your time on bullshit either way.
>>79831052
I certainly do believe in meaning, difference is i derive it from real things.
No, but it is the absence of credibility.
There might be a teapot floating in the sky between us and the sun right now, but why bother wasting resources on a silly story that is not even consistent with itself?
Here i thought that the Brits were masters of the understatement.
>>79830906
That is because you shook off Spain.
Clearly you are not capable to run a country.
>>79831141
You'd be surprised the amount of niggers and Somalis you'll find in small, farming villages. Policy of COA has been to disperse the centers nationwide. And then there's the adoptees.
t. Frisian boer
>>79831127
Ah yes, the focus on the pointless, petty and inane.
How very christian.
I was speaking of wealth, the lack of corruption and diplomatic consequence however, you know those things that actually change something in life.
>>79831261
Given that one is bullshit that actually affects the world as is i have a clear preference for one type of bullshit.
Praying doesn´t stop the seas.
>>79831353
>problem of evil
this shitty argument was actually btfo once and for all by a dutchman a few decades ago.
>>79831427
We had one and our village and everyone called him the 'dorpsneger'. All the cities are fucked though.
T. Brabo
>>79831533
Yeah, if you completely disregard his incapacity to handle absolutes and the consequence of not doing so.
>>79827644
IMO if only all niderlanders behave like new kids there would be no shitskins in niderlands
PS #ITSTRUE
>>79831646
Honestly that is the best pro-leftist argument i have heard in a while.
>>79831605
what absolutes, what consequences?
>>79827644
After ww2 all of north-west Europe became leftists, this destroyed the church.
>>79831353
>real things
What are the "real" things?
>No, but it is the absence of credibility.
So what? There was a massive absence of credibility that the Earth was round for the grander part of the Middle Ages
That didn't in the least affect its veracity
To believe otherwise is to commit the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
>why bother wasting resources on a silly story that is [apparently]* not even consistent with itself
Because that silly story kept the Muslims away and the European peoples civilised and proud
>>79831695
Y tho
>>79830791
nudes fucking WHEN
![35ec2a84-18b5-4912-bb24-12ec5334dc42[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S7TbMMw.jpg "35ec2a84-18b5-4912-bb24-12ec5334dc42[1].jpg")
>>79831646
That movie is a hyperbole of how people in the Dutch countryside are. They aren't problem, people in the cities are just cucked...
Pic related.
>>79827644
>What happened since we left, Dutch?
Via reformation to enlightenment and eventually liberation... Only to slowly slide back into the abyss recently.
>>79830634
>Not by you
Literally by water.. Are the African gene memes real?
>>79831568
>>79831427
I recently encountered 5 niggers on a day in Amsterdam.
I was shocked, i had passed at least five thousand people that day and there was supposed to be 35% niggers there.
>>79831668
>obituary of Britian
>when you have food, water and a roof over your head, something a good portion of the world population will never have
Jesus Christ, you alt-righters sure are a bunch of whiny faggots. What's the matter, did mommy tell you to get a job again?
>>79831765
>What are the "real" things?
Things that when you wish them away don't go away
>>79831110
wow greece confirmed romania tier
also, eastern euros have caught up to the likes of spain italy and portugal,
>>79827644
Most spanish people I've met are cucks too.
"POS TE JURO QUE ME AGO IMBECIL"
Bunch of pussies.
>>79831110
Who is Geert Wilders?
>>79831137
Getaway drug? You are one of those fedora usera who thing being christian somehow make me weak? Christiany teach us that people are born to suffer, and that they will never find true peace until actual death, how beliving something like this makes me weak? We belive in God so we can find the strength to go through this process and find peace within ourselves, but never with the world. Fedora users like you who thing that this somehow make us weak, are just lying to thenselves to feel some superiority to us and that they are above having a strict moral code imposed by christianity, because they can follow their own instincts to know what is right and wrong.
Well, tell me fedora user, if beliving in God is outdated because its moral code is something out of the middle age, then how can beliving solely on my own instincts be the modern alternative, when the last time in human story we used only our instincts was in the stone age?
>>79831914
>hating disadvantaged people according to their class, if they don't fit your political ideology
Yep, you sure as hell sound like a leftist
>>79831977
Like thoughts?
>>79831730
Absolute power, absolute knowledge.
The consequence of passing ie relative omniscience as if absolute omniscience is that you're pointing out the limits of your limitless god.
>>79831765
Jaden Smith, walls you might want to not run into, that sort of thing.
Yeah, except we went to the heavens and found it empty; we learned how to fly and destroy beyond biblical powers and you would have us believe such a petty god would tolerate such competition?
We still are proud and civilised and more than capable of assimilating or solving the issues pointless plebs keep inflating.
We're not Britian, we don't shy away from the consequences of our actions.
>>79831778
...They're completely retarded plebs?
>>79832088
Gateway* drug, a thing to start with only to end up with something worse.
Perhaps if you stopped memeing about fedoras you could be taken seriously, as is Brazil just happily indulges in the foolishness and gets precisely what it deserves.
No god will save you from yourself.
>>79831801
Never hopefully anymore, she ruined herself with plastic, got bloated and then became a barbie.
>>79827644
>More Catholics than Protestants
what?
>>79832208
>Yeah, except we went to the heavens and found it empty; we learned how to fly and destroy beyond biblical powers and you would have us believe such a petty god would tolerate such competition?
Watch this before we can continue this conversation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlBCZ_5OYw
>>79832609
Protestants and such are more likely to end up atheistic as they're taught to think for themselves.
>>79832328
>make a mistake from misunderstanding
>kys ffs
wow...
>>79832676
Considering the general meme-tier quality of your defense so far i am just going to pass and get on with work.
You know, stuff of actual consequence.
Have a pleasant day and pray you don't offend your fickle god.
>>79832328
"I can't find an argument, so I'm gonna use you flag to insult you, because unlike you I live in a first world country and that makes my opinion somehow more valid then ours!"
Eat shit cupcake, you think God can't save people from thenselves? Tell that to the hundreds who abandoned their drug addiction thanks to christianity. I'm gonna keep memeing all I want, because self-important fedora users like you deserve just that, be turned into a meme, a fucking joke.
Also, you did not answer my question, I guess you prefer to keep stuk in the stone age, right?
>>79832707
Unfortunately this
>tfw Catholicism won the war
>>79828584
he already has this was supose to be a cross what the hell it now is today i dont know
>>79827644
What are you even complaining about?
>>79832906
Don't let any outside information ever change your mind
>>79832208
>random jargon
i'm not even talking about the free will defense.
the problem of evil is only an emotional problem, not an intellectual one.
(pic related)
>>79831127
>weedsmoking
But spaniards outsmoke us in every stat
>Pedo
But you're a catholic... Glass houses m8
>le silly hat meme
m8
>>79833010
jews HATE HATE HATE non abrahamic feethinkers
>>79832609
>>79831397
>>79830853
Protestantism has destroyed cristianity
Works like pottery, the most cucked countries are the ones who were centers of the reformation, specially germany
No wonder that netherlands is deep on the slaneeshi pathway, luther confirmed for chaos bringer and antichrist
>>79830791
THICC
>>79833121
Its great how he doesn't argue against any of our arguments, instead focusing on how we deliver those arguments and in our flag. Typical behavior of someone who already know he lost the discussion.
>>79830859
That's true.
In all history of the world, there were never secular countries until some centuries ago, they always had a officially religion.
Look what secularism brought upon us.
>>79830004
That's because my town is 0% (zero percent) islam
>>79830568
Yes
They follow the christian teachings and have kids, unlike most of the cucks (whites) who cry about being invaded and genocided and yet don't produce offsprings to preserve their race
>>79833368
on the contrary those with the highest birth rates and most moral values left in western societies are the evangelical Christians
>>79833395
Well at least we know that other people can judge our arguments for what they're logically worth
Hope some lurkers can learn something from them
>>79833426
I don't remember who said it, but theres no such think as a country without a religion. Religion, along with economy and political-military contingent are the fundamental pillars of a prosper society. If a society abandon a certain religion, then another one will soon come to take its place. Europe abandoned christian, so now islam have come to take its place.
>>79833368
Check out what Luther believed about God
>>79833658
>implying moral values are absolute
>implying moral values are inherently linked to religion
>implying """Christians""" aren't degenerate fucks that sin 6 days and expect it to be forgiven that one day a week in church
>>79828559
Because it's not counting the other 10% reformed wich is a protestant denomination
>>79834009
>>implying we all believe exactly what you believe
>>79827644
Christianity is pagan and degenerate, yet atheism is much worse.
Convert to Islam now
>>79834119
Better an atheist than a degenerate Reformed
dues vult amiriet xDDD
>>79833898
Jesus christ drawfag
>>79832955
Catholicism inflates its own membership rates though. Most baptised catholics in the Netherlands never go to chuch and don't practice. I'm from a Catholic family, but not baptised, and the Church still sends me letters asking for money adressing me as a member. Most protestants in our statistics are self proclaimed and practicing, while catholics are based on inflated churxh records.
>>79829630
Why couldn't he be based like his brother?
>>79834400
le joeks on christins faec
>>79834009
>implying moral values are absolute
get out of here with your nihilism Freud
>>79827644
What's the unemployment rate in the Netherlands relative to Spain?
>>79834565
don't make me bang ur mom m8
>>79827644
>be immigrant muslim kid
>grow up with Dutch people
>end up becoming submissive gay boyslut
>currently living with my dominant blond blue eyed Dutch boyfriend
>enjoy life under Dutch culture and Dutch people which results in one of the top happiest lifes possible
Thanks Dutch bros <3 Thank god my parents came to superior Netherlands and not that shithole Spain.
>>79834514
His brother was a degenerate fedora neocon
>>79834458
I am not him
>people think they can preserve their nation and race without religion
Oh no, the mudslims are taking over!
Hahhaha get fucked, idiots
>>79827644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zUDRbMHia0
Modernisation happened, i miss u Alfonso.
>>79834009
>implying moral values are absolute
Yes , there are moral codes that are absolute, otherwise, how are we gonna know with morals are not absolute and tractable?
>implying moral values are inherently linked to religion
Yes they are, honor mother and father, don't kill or steal, almost the entire law system of the modern world comes from the christian teachings.
>implying """Christians""" aren't degenerate fucks that sin 6 days and expect it to be forgiven that one day a week in church
Who ever said christian are perfect human beings? Yes, we also sin, we are DESTINED to sin.
>>79833702
You seriously need a reality check btw. Im not here to attack your beliefs because I respect them even though I dont believe them myself
But this "Europe is turning muslim" thing is extremely far from the truth. The only muslims in Europe are still the immigrants, there is no large move of native people towards Islam
I know only one convert myself, a friend of a friend. Her family thinks shes retarded and so does everyone else. These people are shunned and the only people that convert are usually freaks anyway
>>79834637
Netherlands: 6% (youth: 11%)
Spain: 20% (youth: 45%)
top kek, how the mighty have fallen
>>79831505
Religion and irreligion both affects the world in equal measures. That affect being of total and utter insignificance. both are completely meaningless.
>>79835190
Obviously Islam is assimilating Europe more through immigrants rather than converts
What I'm saying is that we wouldn't have been letting this happen if we really valued our religion and realised what our faith means regarding the afterlife
Nowadays not even Christians care about Christianity in Western Europe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfZfxFH6rLg
ja wie zou hier nou niet bij willen horen?
>>79830743
>Well, managed in the sense that you survived long enough to start them.
>Impliying we start all the waars and it wasn't a case of all the world against us
>>79835190
The number of mosques in Europe is growing in a faster pace then any other place in the world. Just last year, there were 2 million less catholics in the UK and 1 million more islams according to recent surveys.
This is not a meme, its really happening, just look at the London, Paris, Stockholm from 10 years ago and now, almost unrecognizable cities. Deny all you want, its not my national identity that is at stake here.
>>79827644
>What happened since we left, Dutch?
Can you explain how come you were there in the first place? Nothing i read about it makes any sense. It's like you just randomly decided to take over a country on the other side of Europe.
>>79835177
Morals by definition are subjective.
Morals "claimed" to be Christian in origin can be explained without invoking religion.
That's the worst excuse ever for degenerate behaviour.
>hey god, haha sorry i got drunk and acted like a total slut last week, but we're destined to sin and i'm here in church now right?? :) lysm xoxo
>>79835190
I'm not even invested in this argument but most of your posts come off as really desperate, like you're grasping at straws. Did you have personally have a bad experience with religion or felt repressed by religious parents?
>>79828559
depillarization happend. The thing is that even though a lot of people lost their faith the people that didn't are quite rigid in their faith. The people that still believe are likely to go to church a lot etc.
>>79835177
>Yes they are, honor mother and father, don't kill or steal, almost the entire law system of the modern world comes from the christian teachings.
...You're not serious, right? Are you seriously implying that stealing and killing being bad are Christian inventions? That love for one's parents is inherently Christian, rather than inherently human?
These kinds of statements are what I dislike most about religion... The abject content for humanity, and the flat out denial of inherent basic human decency.
You don't need god to be a good person, and if you don't see that you're likely not a good person...
>There are more Catholics than Protestants in The Netherlands and Germany
So the Catholics won the 30 years war after all :^)
>>79830182
Most are Indonesians though
>>79835872
We really are dying aren't we, huem8?
Send favelas and help
>>79836042
so that 5% are strong protestants
>>79835872
Not only here, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
>>79828559
I believe in the past the protestants were more likely to become atheists than the Catholics.
>>79836109
>..You're not serious, right? Are you seriously implying that stealing and killing being bad are Christian inventions? That love for one's parents is inherently Christian, rather than inherently human?
Yes. In Europe
Up until that point there was tribal warfare and pagan sexual degeneracy
>>79835982
>Morals by definition are subjective
nah, only epistemologically, ontologically they're objective.
moral truths are discovered, not constructed.
>>79835629
>>79835872
I have no problems with these facts, I was just checking theres no /pol/ meme "europeans are converting to Islam" going around
The changing of the bigger cities in western Europe is undeniable and of course a very bad development
I disagree however that "turning everyone christian" would magically fix everything. It wouldnt. Often christian parties in Europe are the ones inviting refugees en masse. Scapegoating atheism is, IMHO, way too easy.
European atheists, agnosts, christians: we ALL need to change the direction our countries are heading.
>>79836014
Check IDs again, thats my only actual post beside meming deus vult
>>79835915
Iirc it had something to do with a Spaniard literally inheriting the crown to our lands when some other royal cunt died. Spanish then proceeded to implement their catholikike ways, and we kicked them out in favor of self governance.
>>79836198
Strong Reformed which means they believe in fucked up shit
>>79835190
>The only muslims in Europe are still the immigrants, there is no large move of native people towards Islam
When people say Europe is turning Muslim people do not mean that the natives are converting. We have low birthrates. They don't. We are not moving to their countries. They are to ours. They are outbreeding us. NOT converting us. Look at the demographics.
>>79835982
Read the Bible and tell me, does anything that Jesus do or teach on that book can be seen as indecent by today standards?
Its no an excuse, you sin, you legimate feel bad for what you did and ask for forgiveness, its that simple.
>>79831533
Al Plantinga?
>>79835915
Burgundy (Netherlands-Belgium plus north France) was inherited by the Habsburgs of Austria because of them marrying the female heir. The Habsburgs a generation later then married the only daughter of Fernando of Aragon and Isabella of Castille, Joanna the mad. So in 2 generations Austria was combined with Burgundy and then with Aragon and Castille. The kings started to rule from Spain especially after the Austrian part was given to the brother of Charles V, the Dutch part stayed with Spain and the son of Charles V, Philip II.
>>79836698
you should feel bad because christ died for your sin
>>79835685
gezellig toch
>>79835915
They randomly inherited a country on the other side of Europe.
>>79836893
If you are a Dutch Prot, that means God only died for the elect and you are just a puppet dangling on strings controlled by him.
>>79836419
>I disagree however that "turning everyone christian" would magically fix everything. It wouldnt. Often christian parties in Europe are the ones inviting refugees en masse. Scapegoating atheism is, IMHO, way too easy.
>European atheists, agnosts, christians: we ALL need to change the direction our countries are heading.
What better and more convincing solution do you have than turning everyone into Traditionalist Christians?
Like we used to be in the both civilised and moral, yet not so technologically developed part of our history (the Middle Ages)
We were constantly at war with Islam then
Morally, it's all been down-hill since the Enlightenment
It was only good for science
Atheism is too relativistic and barren to convince anyone of anything
>>79836681
>le outbreeding meme
The birthrate of non-whites here has dropped to the same level as the white Dutch population
>>79837040
>>79836506
Spain inherited nothing. Austria inherited Burgundy and then Spain. Only time when Spain meant anything in the world was when a bunch of Austrians ruled over it.
>>79837188
why would i be a Dutch Prot look a my flag
>>79834637
We even have Spanish specialist working here on this lovely third world shithole. You really hitted a new bottom fomer colonial imperialist pig.
>>79836419
yeah my bad, replied to the wrong guy. I meant this guy>>79832208
>>79835915
The lineage of the crown of Habsurg was transfered to our King in a particular period of time so it extended his power in there.
What >>79836827 said.
>>79836506
>Implying Protestants aren't the most goyim in the whole of Christianity
>implying you didn't ditch Spanish rule in favor of English influence
Stop being this gullible please.
>>79837356
Spain BTFO.
>>79836109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw
it all depends where you grow up
>>79837363
Except you don't necessarily have to be a Dutch Prot to believe in that horrid doctrine. As long as you are Reformed, you believe it unless you go Barth or Plantinga
I don't believe in god. I believe in the power of the white race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlOVEaBjCso
>>79827644
>Protties btfo
>>79835177
>Morals inherently linked to religion.
You just went full retard anon, have you ever read Theory of the Moral Sentiments by Adam Smith?
>>79837544
no one is reformed in the anglosphere
THE HOLY TRINITY OF NATION, PEOPLE AND VOLKSGEMEINSCHAFFT
>>79836419
The Church is turning tolerant with infidels because of atheism, if they talk about Holy Crusades now, everyone will be against them in no time.
That happened here in Spain not so long ago with some Chatolic boss, and he only says that there are too many migrants now.
>>79837619
In Europe. See >>79836380
>>79836401
>moral truths
Does not work.
>>79836698
You don't have to be a Christian to adhere those standards. Examples you gave before, things like "love your parents", have no religious basis and certainly existed before Christianity. If you need a holy book to tell you not to act like a chimp, you're obviously not a decent person at all.
That last line is contradictory. It's allowing people to act like assholes and not feel bad about it because they can always ask for forgiveness.
Dutch-Spanish Union when?
>>79836380
'pagan sexual degereracy' is subjective, and warfare carried under Christianity. On top of that, many current European values stem from Roman and Greek philosophy and in part civil law.
Why do Christians have such a contempt for humanity? Revelation did not bring morality to humanity, anon.
>>79837356
kys toothpaste
>>79832016
> Calls Spaniards pussies
> Has biggest mosque in Western Europe and is infested with rapefugees
Top kek
>>79837868
Honestly speaking, both the Spanish and the Dutch are too fedoralistic and anglophile for that to happen.
>>79827644
We have now more practising muslims than practising catholics here.
I do agree that catholicism > protestantism though, but you didn't have to chimp out that hard
>>79837773
Except the Anglican Archdiocese of Sydney which is Calvinist
>>79837962
>'pagan sexual degereracy' is [purely]* subjective,
Proof?
>and warfare carried under Christianity.
Against Islam, pagans, heathens and degeneracy
>On top of that, many current European values stem from Roman and Greek philosophy and in part civil law.
Not it's moral values
>Why do Christians have such a contempt for humanity? Revelation did not bring morality to humanity, anon.
There is nothing special about being human. There are good humans and murdering child rapist humans
All are human
I have contempt for sinners
>>79838106
Only deluded Spaniards believe the Habsburgs empire is Spanish. You were made great again by Charles V an Austrian born in the Netherlands.
>>79836419
What is the birth rate of Europeans? 1.02
What is the birth rate of muslins? 3.05
Do you see these numbers? Thats were your problem is, these people are the minority now, but by 2050, they will certainly be not. Europeans need to fix this, but how do you magically increase the European birth rate? By converting then to old fashioned christianity.
What is the first and most important rule God set for the human race? "Multiply and replenish the earth." Humans are just not multiplying thenselves anymore, for multiple reasons: marriage has been turned from a beautiful union to a souless contract that almost always ruins the husband if ends up failing, woman are not interest in being mothers anymore, instead focusing in working and living alone, men are not men anymore, now they are being womanized by the media and feminist movement. The growing number of homessexuals who can't even reproduce, thanks to the LGBT movement. If we don't stop this and go back to our old moral code of decensy and behavior, western society wil go extinct.
>>79838981
#I'mnowtoothpaste
>>79837852
>moral truths does not work
great argument.
The only reason Spain was ever great is because a Germanic King and his spouse ruled it
>>79827644
Pedro why are you wasting money on an internet subscription. You should use it to buy somethong to eat, poor thing. That's probably why you are so short.
>>79839274
>"Multiply and replenish the earth."
And how is working that in your Favelas Pedro?
>>79829343
>he's a hedonistic christian who believes only because he feels he has no choice
shameful
>>79839274
See >>79837339
Birthrates are about the same now for non-whites and the native Dutch.
Also it's hilarious that a fucking monkey from one of the most crime ridden shithole in the world is talking about morals. Well, at least you guys go to church on sunday, kek
>>79839605
Leave the guy alone ya cheeky cunt
he's right
>>79839450
It's like saying "subjective fact" or "objective opinion".
>>79839487
Memes apart, it's funny to think that Charles thought of the dutch as louder warmer and friendlier people than the Castillians who were solemn and serious in character, Who knows what happened and we became italianized
>>79839854
See >>79829889
>>only because he feels he has no choice
What you just said here is Bulverism
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH53uFBOGbw
>>79839959
We will see how that work in Londonistan in the next few decades.
>>79836419
>Often christian parties in Europe are the ones inviting refugees en masse.
As if christians will let in people who want to behead them, they're are atheists and you know that.
>>79840293
Christian parties are Christian in name only 90% of the time.
>>79840253
Do you have a better idea?
>>79840474
desu Catholics often hold socialist shitty ideals. The good thing about them is that they actually breed and raise their kids properly but then they screw this by adopting filth from around the southern hemisphere
>>79840821
>desu Catholics often hold socialist shitty ideals
Blame distributionists.
>>79840152
we're going in circles here, i'm not going to repeat myself.
you don't really seem informed or intelligent enough to engage with directly, i'd rather be lazy and point you toward some literature:
read 'Moral Realism: a defense' by Russ Shafer-Landau (he's a non-believer)
>>79839605
Pretty good, brazilians are certainly not in danger of becoming extict within the next fifteen years. How about your country?
>>79839920
Oh really? Tell that to London or Paris or any other European capital wo is seeing more woman in hijabs and black markets for woman by the day. Also, I love you think that just because of my flag this somehow desvalidates what I'm saying. So my country is a shithole? Yes, it is. But i hather live in a backwards thinking country who still loathes abortion, homossexuality and political correctness then any of your progressive countries who are being cucked left and right by the muslins cunts.
>>79840524
>keep them out
Like always in history, you can't open your borders to subhuman hordes willingly.
Look at superpopulated nations, most of them are shit tier.
>>79840947
>Tell that to London or Paris or any other European capital wo is seeing more woman in hijabs and black markets for woman by the day.
Not because of birthrates though. Most of the hijabs you see are of immigrants from the 60s and their offspring. Their birth rates drop with every generation.. The reason they concentrate in cities is that they really seem to love segregating themselves into shit neighbourhoods.
>>79841250
And how do you convince people to keep them out?
>Look at superpopulated nations, most of them are shit tier.
Leftist answer: "We have a duty to let them in, regardless if we get to look like China or India. It's worth it"
>>79839274
You nailed it.
>>79841250
With is why Europeans need to become a superpopulated nation thenselves, any nation with a birth rate less thyen 3.01, is a nation destined to collapse. It makes no sense that the more developed the nation is, the less children it will create, by that logic, any nation that tries to modernize itself, will inherently extinct itself.
>>79841501
And that is why Alt Right parties are growing again all over Europe.
>>79840947
>i hather live in a backwards thinking country who still loathes abortion, homossexuality and political correctness
Is not just a backwards thinking country, is a degenerate shithole ridden with aids, stealing monkeys and bottle fucking women ( or your world famous transexuals of course)
Your country is so religious yet it's got one of the most sexualized and corrupt cultures in this world
>>79841807
>(or your world famous transexuals of course)
>one of the most sexualized cultures in this world
You seem to be well versed in this
>>79829630
>Oh hey guys god is real and stuff and you should do what he says or he'll kill you because he loves you so much!
So revolutionary.
>>79841771
Let's hope it's not already too late for just another political ideology to save us
>>79831137
>Escapism
>4chinkz
Pick both prick
>>79841662
You don't need exponential growth of population, you only need replacement numbers.
Overpopulation is a problem due to limited resources.
>>79840947
>live in a crime infested zika shithole full of trannies, kiddyfuckers and degeneracy
>b-but at least we are christian!
kek, most muslim countries are unironically better to live in than Brazil
>>79842037
>implying people don't send themselves to Hell
>>79842136
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
He's still right you hopeless child
>>79841807
Put this in your head once and for all: Rio de Janeiro is not Brazil. That city has been dominated by the leftists already, its like whats Chicago is for the USA. And you know why my country became such a crime fest in the last years? Because of our leftist progressive government, the same kind of government in Europe who is asking for the opening of the borders. If wasn't for our strong christian values, my country would already have become a progressive shithole, filled with gay saunas, abortion clinics and probably tons of mosques. It was our evangellical and catholic community who hold us back during this 13 years of progressive government, that we only recently have got hid of then. So yeah, I thank God everyday that my country still have the biggest catholic community in the world. Because God knows how bad this country would be if it wasn't for then.
>>79831052
>>Lack of evidence
>>Is not evidence of absence
And nor is it evidence of existence, why in the hell do you guys use such an absolutely anemic argument, seriously? All you're doing is just showing how astronomically terrible the argument for the existence of god actually is, if you have to resort to saying "well the fact we have no proof whatsoever doesn't automatically render out whole hypotheses defunct, technically speaking.". It just makes you guys look pathetic, desperate and really, really sad. You're not converting anyone with that argument, trust me, it's the absolute barest minimum of an argument, it's hardly even an argument at all it's the exact minimum of what could be considered an argument and that's if you're being really generous.
>>79842093
Bullshit, this limited resources is a myth, the entire world population could fit easily in Texas for Christ sake. If overpopulation was a problem Japan would have already collapsed years ago, in fact, that country if facing a major problem right now: major low birth rate. Yeah.
>>79842136
Go live in one if you love then so much, stupid cunt. Enjoy your European caliphate.
>>79842397
Does the Western world have problems with muslim immigration? Yes.
Is christianity the answer? Fuck no. Brazil is a shining example of that.
>Someone's getting triggered..
I'm only using that argument to stop people from thinking they can dismiss God
But I'm well aware He needs faith, not scientific testing, in my religion (John 20:29)
>>79842734
>>79843274
There we go
>>79843024
My country is not facing a muslim immigration problem, so why is a bad example. I don't think theres any reason to continue this discussion if you are just gonna disvalidate my arguments because of my natinality.
>>79842937
>Overpopulation is a myth
In the third world, maybe. We're full here.. Our population density literally rivals that of tiny islands and city-states.
God is dead
>>79843024
You don't even know the country
See >>79842559
>>79832938
>Tell that to the hundreds who abandoned their drug addiction thanks to christianity.
Oh wow they finally found the power to voluntarily stop doing the thing they voluntarily chose to start doing at some point in the past, how inspiring, truly this must be the work of god.
>>79843438
To you. Because you've killed your belief in Him
>>79843267
Por causo da provável ataque terrorista que vai acontecer? Não muda nada. Se algum terrorista entrar nessa país, é porque o governo Dilmãe praticamente escancarou nossas fronteiras para qualquer um entrar aqui.
>>79843274
(John 20:29)
why do you do this on a atheist site i am a young christian i dont even know what (John 20:29) is
>>79843024
Why the hate to Christianity? I am Roman Catholic myself and it pains me to think you would rather have muslims then us.
>>79827644
We're not gone yet. Some of us remain. Btw, like >>79827737 said, the 5,7% protestant statistic is false, that is only counting one of the many splintered groups of protestant/reformed churches. Added together, protestantism is even larger than the true religion here.
t. Dutch catholic north of the Rhine
>>79843634
Google it you slothful fag
>>79843438
god is only alive for the one who wants him to be alive
>>79830791
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>>79830853
>thermonuclear mad
kekereke
>>79827644
DUTCH PEOPLE ARE ETERNAL KEKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
PROOF ::::
>>79843812
>>79843672
catholic from south of the rhine here.
this is true, we have a bible belt with a lot of reformed protestant churces.
The numbers are likely larger in reality.
>>79843944
cuckssssssss cucksssssssssssss
>>79843793
humz
>>79843398
Well, I'm not gonna try to pretend I know more about your country then you, unlike what you have been doing with Brazil.
>>79843457
I find people trying to educate me on my own country all the time, I can't blame then for thinking that my entire country is just like Rio, thats the image our media loves to sell to the rest of the world.
>>79843997
> calls me a cuck
> is ruled by pseudo-frenchies from walen.
whatever u say menneke.
>>79843933
do you have use the word godverdomme in belgium ?
>>79843370
>live in a failed state
>but let me tell me about your country
Judging by your beliefs, why do you even oppose muslim immigration? They have the same view as you on abortion, gay rights and women.
>>79827964
>protestant
>other small protestant denominations
What?
