Why can't /pol/ accept that weed is the first and ultimate red pill?
>Therapeutic medicine for headaches, migraines, stomach viruses, fever, general illness
>Great for relieving stress
>Expands minds
>Stabilizes autism (that's you!)
right on dude
bump 4 trump
>>79782043
Weed is shit compared to psychedelics.
>>79782414
Psychedelics are more special than weed.
I always liked to make them scarce, space them out. Only thing I would consider taking these days is shrooms
>>79782641
>Psychedelics are more special than weed.
Yes. EXACTLY.
Getting stoned is kind of shit because it puts you into the habit of not being on your A-game. I don't oppose weed on the level of wanting it banned or considering its use 'wrong', but after tripping a couple times it's starting to feel like an... uninformed choice, almost.
Like I'm asking using it to 'just' get high rather than listen to it or other plant teachers.
Its been said before. Weed's fine. Weed culture is retarded.
>>79783034
I can argue this much...
As a mind-altering drug, weed moves like molasses compared to psychedelics.
Weed (the right level - not too much) is a nice calming, unwinding resource that doesn't completely change your perception of everything in one dose.
Acid made me love the outdoors. Now when I smoke, I spend as much time in quiet shaded greenspace as possible. It's a very peaceful experience.
>>79782043
>Smoke weed since 14
>16 years gone by, now 30
>When younger, great eye sight
>Now, poor eye sight, need glasses
>Have lazy eye
I'll say this, I noticed something recently in most of my pot head friends, we all have the same lazy eye on our left. Why is that?
>>79782043
You've made a great argument for cheep, easy access through a medical professional/pharmacist.
Not recreational use as you, the end user, see fit.
>>79782043
>Expands minds
I've been smoking rope for 6 years now
You and anyone who claims this needs to kill yourselves. You don't smoke weed to "expand the mind" You smoke weed to get high and relax and not think about shit.
Seriously I'm tiered of people thinking I'm a loser for smoking because of people like you. Die slowly.
>>79784040
There are specific strains that do help with mental focus and creativity.
Bubba Kush is one of them.
Just like there are a handful of strains that help with menstrual cramps.
There is a huge variety of effects between strains. Look up a medical marijuana database, you'll see what I'm talking about.
>>79784040
The fact that you're wishing death on someone for having different opinions may just be why people think you are a loser.
Smoke a bowl and calm down, chief
Am I the only one who just gets more introverted and out of it while on dude weed lmao?
>>79784201
Various Cramps or headaches? yes. Creativity? Maybe, if your a boring person. Focus? No.
You might think your being more focused, but your mind is drifting off into a calm rant ever 30 seconds.
>focusing on something while high
>gee, I wonder if I should do x. I really like x. *think about all the ways x affects your life*
>>79784456
>smoking bowls
>not rolling joints
>not owning a large bong with a vape attachment
>>79784549
It's true. But it's only a few specific strains. Very few have ever given me focus. Bubba Kush was one.
Green Crack is also the worlds greatest anti-depressant. No way in hell you're burning that without feeling happy. And that's really the only major effect it had. Not a whole lot of the psychoactive effects you describe.
Now, my buddy's home grown California Orange. That was melt into the couch and drift off into nirvana for three hours weed. That shit was dank.
But my point again, is every strain is different. And have a wide range of effects. Check a medical database and do some research.
I'm all for cheep easy access of medical marijuana through a medical professional, not some Joe Shmuck at the side of the road.
Recreational use is not a good thing.
The right strain for the job. Being my mindset. Which is partly why I stopped smoking. Can't get specific strains out of a dealer. And only specific strains are going to scratch the itch.
>>79784040
Yeah you smoke dope to dull your mind and have yourself turned into a apathetic log, very good anon.
>>79784731
joints reek (used to roll them) and i have no room for bongs (or interest in cleaning them)
i like my lucky charms in a bowl
>>79782043
>>Therapeutic medicine for headaches, migraines, stomach viruses, fever, general illness
So does opium until your high wears off.
>>79782043
Weed really does let you see into layers of metanarrative that are usually invisible.
Smoke weed and watch something non-fiction (news, docos, whatever) and all the bullshit parts of it stand out like dogs' balls.
This sense of thinking "around" things stays after you sober up too. It's great for lateral thinking.
>>79785151
Opium is good for hunger pains too.
Can't help but think it's the next thing on the list after weed is legal.
>>79782043
As soon as someone mentions the medical argument you know their opinion is basically worthless.
Sure, weed can be great for chemo patients who have extreme nausea and loss of appetite, and there's evidence for some other mild medical benefits, but that's not why you want it to be legal, pretending otherwise makes everyone seeking law reform seem dishonest by association, and there are better arguments for it anyway:
1. You want to get high recreationally. It doesn't hurt anyone but maybe yourself and you should be free to do so. Fine. Full agreement here.
2. Policing it is a waste of police resources and clogs up courts and jails with basically harmless people when those same resources could be thrown at catching amd prosecuting serious criminals.
3. It could be a source of tax revenue (and in some cases tourism revenue).
>>79785195
I attribute that to the altered state of mind.
Like looking at something two inches to the left.
From a non centered perspective, things that seem normal aren't.
Also, you're setting yourself up to see things that aren't there if you do it too much. Which is why most hippies are crazy whackjobs.
>>79785001
Love green crack just because all my m8s giggle when i say I have some.
Cali weed is so good, I go through a trusted dealer rather than a medical dispensary, get better deals
>>79782043
>inhaling the herbal jew
>>79784549
why can you simply admit that the plant does different things to different people, the fact that you smoke and can't focus on anything doesn't mean other people don't get that effect from blazing it
Also what do you understand by "expanding" your mind? I could say weed has expanded mine because it gave me a new appreciation for music that I didn't have before. And I had a few experiences during my first year on weed when I smoked and meditated, which I'm not gonna say fucking blew my mind or anything, but they definitely got me thinking a while.
Also brain tickles, I don't know how to better describe it. It's just like that, tickles in your brain.
>>79785369
Agree, there's use and there's abuse. Me and some mates often just watch movies if we have a smoke, and every little plot hole and inconsistency is glaringly obvious. It's fun, but you can overdo it if you're a retard.
>>79785514
200 an Oz of the dankest shit in the world, fresh cut. Mmmm. I miss Larry.
He was also growing Texas Big bud. Gave me a 14 gram tip of a cola. Shit was as big as my fist.
The man knew what he was doing.
>>79782043
Colorado checking in. Like everything in life there is pros and cons but overall it should be legalized nationwide. At least then maybe some of these bums will go back to their home state. Needless to say we are having fun today though
>legalizing weed
>implying commercial weed won't kill you faster than cigarettes
I use some drugs, but I also understand that all drug use is definitively blue-pilled
if you can't understand that, you're fucking retarded
>>79783840
I'm 27 and my eyesight is way worse than it was when I was 14.
I've never even seen weed in real life.
I'd say that correlation is not causation, but there's not even a correlation here. You're just taking two things and draw a connection.
>>79783672
I suppose. Personally I consider it unhelpful in the long run.
Can be psychologically addicting, though.
>>79786470
Isn't that the case for pretty much everything?
>>79786470
Only if you're weak minded
>>79782043
It's a two way street.
Yes, it should be available to anyone, but it should be regulated, because there are always people who abuse it.
>>79782043
We already have a big enough problem with drunks. No need to add in you stupid fucks who think your magic plant grows brain cells and is a cure-all.
>>79784731
m8 I don't have time for any of that shit.
>>79786646
>because there are always people who abuse it.
see >>79786576
>>79786470
So can literally anything.
>>79786820
lol dude, it's like you don't even take weed really really fucking seriously
>>79786845
I'd like to add, that mouthwash isn't available on reserves in Ontario because the natives use it to get drunk.
Making something more readily available is only going to add to the problem, not fix it.
>>79782043
DUDE WEED LMAO
>>79786994
So your solution would be to ban everything that can be abused in some way by some group of people? Will there be anything left at all?
>>79786994
>the mouthwash is the problem
>>79785151
The way opium works though is like taking out loans of 'feel good' with interest. The price you pay for using any opiate is immediately apparent. Weed not so much.
>>79782043
I have no problem with weed. I just hate stoners.
>>79782043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhx84w_iIrE
>>79782043
Rolling a special blunt tonight. Getting out my MG scale so I can acurractly 17.76 grams.
God bless America and Washington State.
>>79786994
So should we ban gasoline too?
>>79786646
You mean like we regulate aspirin, cigarettes, and alcohol? Why won't you just let Darwinism work it's magic? Why do you have to save every idiot with a sub-par iq?
FUCK weed. I smoked it from age 17 to age 23 and I quit recently (two weeks and going strong) and I feel a shit ton better without it. I can actually DREAM again. I fucking missed dreaming so much. You're not human if you don't dream. Don't do weed my senpai's, smoke on a rare occasion if you must, but never ever make a habit out of it.
>>79787243
Raw opium is not so bad. Far less addicting and very nearly impossible to overdose on.
Hard liquor is a far more dangerous drug than opium tar right from the pod.
>>79787545
Plus your lungs will thank you.
>>79785571
I remember hearing someone describe it as "a hot shower for your brain"
>>79782043
>stabilizes autism
I hope this gets some actual research soon, weed is an experience when you're actually autistic.
>>79787545
I don't know what's wrong with you. Daily smoker and I have long, colerful adventure dreams almost every night.
>>79786971
been smoking every day for years. all I need is a bowl and a lighter.
>>79787282
>I have no problem with weed. I just hate stoners.
>mfw browsing weed sites and seeing stonerbros whine and cry about their precious counter-culture being commercialized by DA EVIL MAN DUDE
They're literally getting migrated to death. It's fucking great.
If even 2 of the initiatives you guys have set for November go through stonercancer will basically die within the next two years through utter, complete and RUTHLESS gentrification.
Death to stoners! Long live weed!
>>79785045
>weed is a long term effect drug hurr durr durr
>alcohol is great
>>79787661
Marijuana reduces the chance of contracting lung disease according to every long term study on chronic use.
Doctors issue marijuana permits for asthma in several states.
Before albuterol was invented, it was the most common drug used to treat lung issues and was a standard in every doctors kit.
>>79783840
You got old
>>79782043
>>Expands minds
of all the buzzwords in the world i probably hate this one the most
>>79787746
>I hope this gets some actual research soon, weed is an experience when you're actually autistic.
Friend actually managed to get laid and start a family through it.
I hate smoking it daily, but damn does it improve my ability to actively empathize with people.
>>79787755
You probably haven't been smoking for very long. That or you're a liar. Because literally every single person I've ever known that smoked weed complained they could never dream and suddenly their dreams became intensely vivid and lucid soon as they quit.
>>79788085
[citation needed]
>yeah bro! coughing up tons of mucus and phlegm every morning must mean your lungs are healthy, 420 brah!
Just blaze it
post reminded me to roll J
>>79787545
I always dreamed when i was high. A couple of bowls before bed would get me some awesome trippy dreams
>>79788351
Because you obviously weren't a regular smoker.
If you say you were, then you're a fucking liar.
God I hate stonerfags now. Enjoy your low IQ.
http://www.leafscience.com/2014/09/13/marijuana-rem-sleep-dreams/
http://www.vice.com/read/why-are-your-dreams-suddenly-so-intense-when-you-stop-smoking-weed-876
>durr inb4 vice
>>79782043
>Drop out of life with bong in hand, follow the smoke to the Riff Filled Land.
>>79788178
yeah they become more vivid when you quit but will go back to normal after a while
>>79788466
>God I hate stonerfags now. Enjoy your low IQ.
Is the lowered IQ personal experience as well?
>>79788239
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821
>We spoke to nation’s leading pulmonologists, Dr. Donald Tashkin. The professor emeritus of medicine at UCLA once sought to prove pot causes lung cancer, but the evidence forced him to conclude the opposite.
>Cannabis tar has more carcinogens than tobacco, but, Tashkin states, “we failed to find any positive association [with cancer].” Instead, “the association would be negative, between lung cancer and the use of marijuana. The likelihood is, that despite the fact that marijuana smoke contains carcinogens, we don’t see the same heightened risks of cancers that we see in tobacco.”
>For one, THC, CBD and other cannabinoids have been shown in cell and animal studies to kill cancer.
>Tashkin also states that smoking marijuana does not cause chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) perhaps because “marijuana is a potent anti-inflammatory and suppressive,” he says.
There is a reason modern doctors with medical degrees prescribe pot for asthma.
>>79786340
I saw a weed store in Vienna
>>79786820
Nice dildo. Is that from Bad Dragon?
>>79783840
Screen time ya dummy and heroin
>>79785360
>As soon as someone mentions the medical argument you know their opinion is basically worthless.
This. Does anyone seriously believe that the guy with dreads and a tie-dye shirt cares about medical research? Just be fucking honest and admit that you want to get high.
>>79788178
Yes, when you quit you have vivid as fuck dreams for a few days.
I've smoked from age 16-25 and I have very vivid dreams which I record in a journal.
For some reason when I take a big dose of vitamins I have my best dreams.
>>79785902
Washington here. Our politics are all "the homeless problem" right now and Seattle city council is all sjws. How are the homeless affecting you fellow dude weed lmaobros?
>>79788546
Minute 43.
Solo at minute 12.
TUNE
Weed could be legal, ok. But you need to make sure that society shows that degenerates have no place in it, you can have your weed and the cops won't do shit, but the rest of the people should definitely know and be encouraged to see you as a fucking pothead degenerate.
It must be a socially rejected practice.
>>79789014
>can't say anything positive about weed without someone bringing up muh stoner strawman
>>79788466
Nope. But I also drink a lot which increases REM and take a few supplements.
I have no control when it comes to weed and just smoke and smoke and smoke.
>the family all know I smoke because I get silly and stop giving a fuck
> Great for relieving stress
> Depressant
>>79789480
why would you allow yourself to get to that point?
don't you have any self-respect?
>>79789637
No idea. Embarrassed as about it. I spend heaps of money and don't even get high because I do it all the time.
>obviously mental as
>>79789014
I attest from personal experience having violent migraines (pounding headaches, fever, chills, vomiting, dizziness and lack of balance).
I started getting them around the age of 10, after being glazed in the eye with a ball of ice and going half-blind for a few weeks.
It took me a few years to finally describe the medical condition I had (scintillating scotoma) to my doctor. He gave me a few medicines that made me feel anywhere from OK to very sick. I had a very limited window of time to take them, and they were also very expensive ($36 a pill!)
After it felt like the doctor's orders were cutting up my internals one time, I gave weed a try. It worked miraculously and put me in the opposite mood... A chilled, zenful, relaxed and steady mood that I've benefited from since.
The only time I smoke is with friends. If I did by myself I feel the feels. It makes me remember shit that I got over a long time ago and causes me emotional distress.
>More or less I get really depressed
>>79789748
You're a disgrace, know that.
>>79789932
And that's fine. I'm happy for you. I don't deny that it has medical benefits. But you are a real medical case, not some hippie stoner trying to use people like you as a prop for their own selfish goals.
>>79782043
Dope is a great plant, it really unlocks my subconscious thinking. Dope was actually the tree of knowledge in the Garden of Eden, and its flowers were the Forbidden fruit.
>>79789578
Except it's a stimulant. Fucking leaf.
>>79790836
>Dope is a great plant, it really unlocks my subconscious thinking. Dope was actually the tree of knowledge in the Garden of Eden, and its flowers were the Forbidden fruit.
That was Mandrake I'm pretty sure.
>>79789578
>elect weedman
>this ignorant about weed
>>79791284
Leafland is a terrible place.
>>79790614
Hippie stoner activists are annoying. They share one basic good point, though: more than anything else, they want the freedom to partake in an activity relatively harmless to others without going to jail for it. On that note, I agree with them.
Not to mention, those types are some of the best providers and curators in the market outside of cartels, especially in states where legal usage is strictly limited (i.e. "if you suffer from 1 of these 3 kinds of obscure cancer than you can ingest smokeless thc")
The sooner it is legalized, the sooner these people stop protesting and start getting to work undoing the cartel influence...
>>79791356
Nope it was cannabis.
