Casual reminder that "Cultural Marxism" is a right wing conspiracy theory and holds no scientific validity like the well known fact of the dominance and oppression of the Patriarchy.
Just look at wikipedia if you don't believe me.
>>79734830
http://nypost.com/2016/07/01/elite-k-8-school-teaches-white-students-theyre-born-racist/
>>79735829
And? Do you have a point? Racism needs to be addressed and it's obvious that white people are naturally racist and can't handle things that are different from themselves.
>>79734830
t. Antonio Gramsci
Cultural Marxism doesn't exist.
The idea that an atonal music guru (Theodor Adorno) and a Jewish mystic-turned-Marxist (Walter Benjamin) destroyed the West by critiquing art is laughable and absurd.
Everything /pol/ blames on the Frankfurt School is the product of late capitalism and POSTMODERNISM.
>>79736575
Cultural Marxism aims to spread post modernism you twit.
>>79736249
>it's obvious that white people are naturally racist and can't handle things that are different from themselves.
Why is that obvious?
did someone say they wanted a national socialist thread?
>>79736249
>ruining your bait thread in the 2nd post
>>79734830
>"Cultural Marxism" is a right wing conspiracy theory and holds no scientific validity
Sure thing, komrade.
>>79734830
>2 posts by this ID
>>79737194
>Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory
>"Cultural Marxism" as a term originated prior to the 1980s as an informal and uncommon way of describing certain Western Marxists as they transitioned away from utilizing structural Marxism as an element of their discourse and towards the more general practice of cultural analysis.[51][52] Since the 1990s the term has been hijacked as part of an ongoing culture war and has come to refer to a conspiracy theory which regards the Frankfurt School as the origin of a contemporary movement in the political left to take over and destroy Western society.[53][54][55] This conspiracy theory advocates the idea that The Frankfurt School had a unanimous set of beliefs and were deliberately attempting to engineer the collapse of the West using multiculturalism and political correctness as their methods.[54][55][56] The theory is associated with American religious paleoconservatives such as William S. Lind, Pat Buchanan and Paul Weyrich.[56][57][58]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory
Educate yourself.
>>79736249
Stormfront please go
>>79736974
I dunno, maybe all of human history?
>>79734830
>and holds no scientific validity like the well known fact of the dominance and oppression of the Patriarchy.
Reminder that the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesnt exist
Its based almost all on the writings of Herbert Marcuse and Theodore Adorno and the recent SJW movement is a direct result of their teachings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg3T_H2LZ54
>>79737508
>racism is bad
love that meme
>>79734830
intersectional feminism is marxism you cunt
>>79737363
>education through wikipedia
Sounds about right. Oh by the way, gas yourself.
liberalism infiltrated the communist left.
>>79734830
>Casual reminder that "Cultural Marxism" is a right wing conspiracy theory and holds no scientific validity like the well known fact of the dominance and oppression of the Patriarchy.
How do you explain the influence of Herbert Marcuse and his peers on causing the New Left in America and the cultural shift that is motivated by it?
Honestly, Cultural Marxism is a good name for it. You just don't like it because you're either ignorant of the situation or don't like having terms not defined by that group.
>>79736812
Post-modernism doesn't "spread", it's a material historical condition, or rather a way to describe the things that are happening.
>>79737700
>whites aren't naturally racist!!!
>oh well it's not like being racist is a bad thing!
I love hypocrisy.
>>79734830
Isn't this "cultural marxism" thing just multiculturalism?
That idea is older than either communism or fascism.
>>79734830
Marxism is an inherent part of america. Just read the constitution. "All men are created equal" total jewish bullshit.
>>79738068
>How do you explain the influence of Herbert Marcuse and his peers on causing the New Left in America
Leftists like to read obscure texts and pretend they are wiser than everyone.
>>79738068
>Honestly, Cultural Marxism is a good name for it.
thats their entire argument for it not existing btw. "we call it something different!"
>The whole post-fascist period is one of clear and present danger. Consequently, true pacification requires the withdrawal of tolerance before the deed, at the stage of communication in word, print, and picture. Such extreme suspension of the right of free speech and free assembly is indeed justified only if the whole of society is in extreme danger. I maintain that our society is in such an emergency situation, and that it has become the normal state of affairs. Different opinions and 'philosophies' can no longer compete peacefully for adherence and persuasion on rational grounds: the 'marketplace of ideas' is organized and delimited by those who determine the national and the individual interest. In this society, for which the ideologists have proclaimed the 'end of ideology', the false consciousness has become the general consciousness--from the government down to its last objects. The small and powerless minorities which struggle against the false consciousness and its beneficiaries must be helped: their continued existence is more important than the preservation of abused rights and liberties which grant constitutional powers to those who oppress these minorities. It should be evident by now that the exercise of civil rights by those who don't have them presupposes the withdrawal of civil rights from those who prevent their exercise, and that liberation of the Damned of the Earth presupposes suppression not only of their old but also of their new masters.
TL;DR-anyone that doesnt agree with me is literally hitler, so its okay to deprive them of their rights, especially freedom of speech
http://www.marcuse.org/herbert/pubs/60spubs/65repressivetolerance.htm
>>79738607
This was just the hip idea in those Enlightenment circles, Natural Rights and everything. It's not the worst thing.
>>79738475
when did i say whites aren't naturally racist? and if they were you wouldn't be posting commie drivel on 4chinz :^)
>m-muh slavery
>>79738676
it's cultural marxism. America was, and always will be, a marxist country unless we get trump in office so he can put the libtarded constitution through the shredder and write a new one.
>>79738667
Ironically, if we go by his definitions ("the false consciousness has become the general consciousness--from the government down to its last objects"), we should purge the Antifa.
>>79738068
see
>>79737363
and cry yourself to sleep stormweenie
>>79736249
>complains about not being scientific
>in the same thread complains about races and racism being facual
There are no races. We have genetics, and are mapping genomes, read a scientific journal rather than watch BBC for academic news.
"Race" implies discontinuous subsets, but human variation is continuous. There is no one trait you can use as a division between "races", because there are people with intermediate characteristics for any trait you care to look at - including the most obviously visible ones like skin color and bone structure.
And, importantly, there's more genetic variation within "races" than between them. It is possible to make a very reliable prediction of what continent someone's ancestors came from if you look at thousands of loci on their genome simultaneously, and in some cases you can get a pretty decent estimate with 100 loci. But if you look at just one or even ten places on the genome, it's impossible to be certain which population they came from. In some cases, you can't make a very reliable prediction even if you look at several hundred loci at once.
This is in large part because there's very little genetic variation within humans compared to other species. Chimps have much more genetic diversity than we do.
http://www.jstor.org/stable/2739576?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020
What you see as racism is people of higher culture hating people of lower culture.
A secular engineer hating a hood thug. This is not related to "race", as there is no race. Its related to culture.
>>79738626
>Leftists like to read obscure texts and pretend they are wiser than everyone.
well thats the weird thing. Not only does the average SJW not realize their entire belief system is rooted in cultural marxism, they get angry at you for pointing it out and deny its existence
>>79738475
>racism is a naturally white thing
>patriarchy is a scientific fact
Top lel, lad.
>>79739009
Basically "cultural marxism" is a codeword for something that does exist (all these leftist texts). They just don't self-identify this way, they'll try to pass themselves on as "Democrats" or "Social Democrats" or "Democratic socialists".
>>79734830
>Just look at wikipedia if you don't believe me.
>>79734830
>just look at wikipedia goy, we made it just for you.
>>79738866
So what is wrong about the thing you're linking to me?
>the Frankfurt School wasn't entirely unanimous in their beliefs
>they aren't deliberately trying to destroy the west
>but it is a name for a shift in Marxist discourse towards cultural analysis
And if you read them, they're all arguing cultural methods towards leading to revolution. Thus there is a group trying to make change and push values on the west and it has existed for decades. And not some Illuminati. This Marxist group focuses on cultural analysis. Thus Cultural Marxism is a fine name for it.
Congratulations. You played yourself.
>>79739233
Those are both objectively true.
>>79739390
>>79739485
Ah yes, I forgot that wikipedia, something that can be edited by anyone and anyone can join in the debate of an article is all controlled by the evil cultural marxists that run everything!
Reality has a liberal bias. Get over it and realize you're on the wrong side of history.
Cultural Marxism is a plague on Wester civilization. To say that all white people are naturally born racist because of the actions of their kin is like a racist saying that all black people are naturally violent because of their history. It's a very very bad logical fallacy which is why we constantly make fun of the left.
Also, greetings from Colorado and happy fourth everyone!
Sage this fucking slide thread.
>educate yourself
>Wikipedia
>not biased
>blatant shilling
Jesus tap dancing christ just hide and don't reply to this shit
>>79737508
I don't know either. You should explain.
>>79739540
To sum up, your whole defense is "they aren't comic villains!"
Well no shit. They don't plan to "destroy the west", they meant to destroy capitalism and cause Marxist revolution.
>>79739631
>Those are both objectively true.
Prove it.
>>79739631
>reality has a liberal bias
biology says otherwise
>>79739631
>Reality has a liberal bias. Get over it and realize you're on the wrong side of history.
Honestly, what do you mean by that? How can reality have a liberal bias?
>>79739631
I hope you're enjoying your giggle, happy 4th of July.
>>79739741
They ended up supporting capitalism and destroying the West, though. 0/10
>>79739805
It's a playful way of liberals to say they are correct.
>>79739540
>And if you read them, they're all arguing cultural methods towards leading to revolution.
This. Marxism is essentially a religion that fancies itself a science. They believed that the whole world would rise up as one against the capitalist, and saw WW1 as this catalyst. But that didnt happen at all. Just in Russia.
So they then thought people were too brainwashed by the fruits of capitalism to ever rise up, and planned to simply pull out the roots by dissecting every aspect of society. Like demolishing a building before you build a new one.
>>79739915
>They ended up supporting capitalism and destroying the West, though. 0/10
But they didn't. At best, these thinkers thought that change should happen in stages.
Do you believe Marxist feminism exists? You can look it up and there are plenty of people who identify as that. Do you believe in critical race theory? It's similarly influenced by Marxism. Why do gay pride parade always have communist marching for "queer socialism"? Liberation theology? Why is it that Zizek, the most popular Marxist intellectual spends all his time talking about movies and psychoanalysis? All these things operate in the same way. Just because they themselves don't use the term " cultural Marxism" doesn't make it invalid. We could call it "critical theory" instead but that term itself is much less descriptive.
>>79739741
Marxism was destroyed in academia in the late 1960s by Post Structuralism.
The Frankfurters were modernist critical theorists, they wee dead and buried by 1970, along with all Marxists.
>>79739631
>cultural marxism is a meme!
>but the omnipresent all-powerful patriarchy keeping the women, the blacks and they gays down is real
k e k
>>79740139
Yeah well unfortunately their concept didn't die with them because you still have edge lords like OP today.
>>79736249
>cultural marxism at work
kek
How come did you let thiS threAd GEtthis many replies?
cultural marxism is real
the frankfurt school is real
i studied about them in uni
>>79740548
op just wants to feel special for '''''''''''trolling''''''''''''
his friends on pol, let him have his fun
>Just look at wikipedia if you don't believe me.
Does no one ITT remember /pol/'s coverage of leftist wiki editors literally conspiring and succeeding in changing the cultural marxism wiki entry a while back?
I'm smelling summergoyim
>>79734830
Refute it. You literally can't.
>>79740054
I'd say they evolved past mere marxism and supported globalist corporatism instead, which isn't what free market capitalism is. The aims are the same, though - an oligarchy.
>>79738995
Name a country run by a black person that hasn't gone to shit.
>>79740471
>their concept
The "Cultural Marxism" that you're referring to is actually called "Counter Hegemony". It is countering the dominant cultural structure that is in place today, and dominates societies, globally.
That social structure can be called "Cultural Capitalism". It currently dominates the entire World.
>>79740597
>didn't finish his course...
>>79740930
1 more year left
>>79740213
This. They believe in some Global "social-democracy". They are basically sell-outs who rationalize it by saying they promote "human rights" and "feminism", while they make the bankers richer.
>>79734830
>Cultural Marxism a conspiracy theory
I sincerely hope no leftists believe this. What exactly do they think happened in Stalinist Russia?
>>79741059
''not muh reeel commienism''
>>79741029
hehe
You will learn about Post Structuralism in the final year. All Modernism was crushed by the Post Structuralists.
>>79736249
>white people are naturally racist
which is racist to say.
How fucking old are you? Did you come here because of CNN? If you did then good. Stick around. /pol/ will raise you the right way.
>>79741059
Do you think the USSR was created by "Cultural Marxism"?
heh
>>79740852
Are you attempting to prove genetics wrong with this """argument"""?
>>79740873
So basically just a bunch of edgy teenagers and idiots who don't know the basics of economics want to see a change in the (working) foundation because they're fucking hipsters.
Pretty much sums it up.
>>79741309
>So basically just a bunch of edgy teenagers and idiots who don't know the basics of economics
Economics?
>>79741261
You must be new here.
He posted this because of the CNN article and the brainwashed people who will come to this site. It's obvious b8.
>>79740873
>The "Cultural Marxism" that you're referring to is actually called "Counter Hegemony".
literally "muh super special brand of cultural marxism"
>>79741195
im not studying philosophy, but law
and philosophy of law is the subject that I studied about these
by post structuralists you mean postmodernists? or something else?
>>79741578
>brand of Marxism
The concept of "hegemony" comes from Antonio Gramsci.
I sugget you read his prison diaries.
>>79736812
Postmodernism and Frankfurt School were like day and night. The closest thing you'll get as far as an overlap goes are early writings by Benjamin on language (which were written years before he became a Marxist).
Postmodernism mostly comes from the philosophy of Heidegger, someone who Adorno viciously critiqued.
>>79741855
>Gramsci
>not a marxist
wew lad
>>79740139
To be fair, Erich Fromm lived until 1984 although he was mostly irrelevant by then.
>>79734830
>>79736249
>>79736249
All people are naturally racist.
Racism and Xenophobia are innate to all people. They fear what is different. If you can't understand that, go back to pre-school, because that is where there are naps and safe spaces.
>>79739485
>kabbalah
>is a book
Please.
it's good that OP brought that up: There was an excellent article on Cultural Marxism on wikipedia, which has now been cucked into oblivion, just a casual mention in the article on the (((Frankfurt School))) under the heading of a conspiracy theory.
The loss of the Cultural Marxism article is a big loss for us. We need to find a way to get it back. However, Jewish hasbarats are literally paid to monitor mention of it, and edit it out.
>>79741425
And how things work socially yes.
Culture has a big impact on the way economics work.
>>79741721
There is a distinction,
http://culturalpolitics.net/cultural_theory/postmodern
>>79741291
Can you give me an example or not?
The overwhelming majority of black people are low iq. Yes I'd argue that culture plays a factor in the development of Iq but if you and your tribe spends tens of thousands of years in warrior centric societies where athleticism is valued beyond intelligence, IQ is not going to rise in those populations. Papa New Guinnea is another example of an uncivilized race and culture.
Just making a point. Race is still a factor as ethnicity is race and culture. Just because our close relatives have more genetic variation between them doesn't make this fact any less true. That said not all judgements placed on a person should be placed on race, instead it should be ethnicity as a whole.
>>79734830
> no scientific validity
I don't think you know how politics works.
>>79740213
>Science and actual research is wrong!
Spoken like a true reich winger.
>>79741261
>>79741981
>I literally don't know that racism is only something that white people can do
Prejudice + power = Racism you retard. PoC do not have power and thus by its very definition CANNOT be racist.
>>79741927
The strawman cometh...
>>79741275
Nope. I hope the Bolsheviks are having fun being tortured in hell.
>>79741291
James Watson says hello
>>79742162
>race is still a factor
There is no such thing. It doesn't exist. Proven by genetics.
Your "no good black leader" post doesn't disprove what I wrote. You are stating a random fact that has nothing to do with the issue, and act as if you won the argument?
>>79742324
Gramsci was a marxist
also, not an argument
>>79742270
>science and actual research
good, you forgot to post some. you're getting better at shitposting.
>coloreds can't be racist
guess i'm immune from being arrested for hate speech :^)
"Cultural marxism" is a term used by quesitonable idiots such as Molyneux to attract low-intelligency audience and generate them shekels.
>>79742333
>implying Gramsci was a Bolshevik...
heh
>>79742420
>Another strawman has the stuffing knocked out of him...
Who said Gramsci wasn't a Marxist?
>>79742507
This.
>>79734830
Not sure if posted yet, but sage. Also bait.
Daily reminder Cultural Maxirsm is not a meme but a tool that the capital is now using as the left has the same goals than the liberal agenda.
It's a win win, no nations, no identity.
Perfect for the jewish capital
deng all these fools taking b8
>>79740873
Jews dominate the world. And they're interested in two things: communism and banking.
t. guy who studied foucault and wrote an A grade honours final paper on his theory of power.
>>79742420
Gramsci's ideas of hegemony were completely different from what /pol/ claims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OAVNYo3rWI
>>79734830
You sir, are absolutely right. Those crazy maniacs western cis heterosexual males are always one breath away before they start a holocaust.
So wouldn't be wise for all liberals and Pickers of Cotton to migrate in open-minded and accomodating nations, such as Israel? Wouldn't be shame to waste eve one precious minority's life in your reckless war against straight white patriarchy?
>>79738995
>"Race" implies discontinuous subsets
No, it does not, read up the various definitions of race.
>There is no one trait you can use as a division between "races", because there are people with intermediate characteristics for any trait you care to look at - including the most obviously visible ones like skin color and bone structure.
Burden of proof is on you - prove, that there is no such trait.
>And, importantly, there's more genetic variation within "races" than between them.
This is illogical. If the subsets themselves have less variety in them than between them you could easily form new subsets based on the variety in the subsets and have the reverse situation, with the subsets having more variety between them, than in them.
And even before that you are disproving yourself. In order to prove your statement you would first have to define a "race". And as you tried to explain with your pseudoscience that is not possible. Either you accept, that there are races or you simply can't prove your own point.
tl:dr; there are races and just because you can easily shift definitions, doesn't mean, there exist no distinctions that can be used to define populations/races/ethnicities
cultural marxism is just the left applying their political beliefs to culture, that's all it is
the right hasn't been able to push their own culture because political correctness is a tool of cultural marxism(and it's being destroyed)
>>79734830
Then you'd have no problem with my cultural Fascism.
>>79742746
You do know Marxists oppose the Frankfurt School?
Marxists believe in "historical process", which is the result of "dialectical materialism". "Culture" is an irrelevance to Marxists. They were regarded as heretics by Marxists, they're the kind of people Stalin had shot.
>>79742974
>Jews dominate the world. And they're interested in two things: communism and banking.
Communism and banking?
Are you insane?
>>79743324
No, you're just uneducated.
>>79742374
>Last two posts have focused on who is winning the argument
>Not the argument in itself
Pride isn't going to do you much good on this board. Stay on top of the human genome project sometime if you want to see that blacks (with whatever facial none structure you'd like them to have) have a lower iq than all other races. Abbos have the most severe problem with psychopathy than any other race of people on the planet who are open for study. They also have average iq's in the 70's. Instead of focusing on who wins the argument, just argue ffs.
Go ahead. Educate me.
>cultural fascism doesn't exist you BIGOT!
>Racial purity is the greatest morality and to die for your race
>>79743157
That list has been debunked.
>creation of racism offenses
The Franks barely wrote about race or racism, sans the essay on antisemitism in Dialectic of Enlightenment.
>emptying of churches
Benjamin literally told his comrades to return to Torah in order to redeem Marxism. And yet you want us to believe the Franks were trying to uproot Judeo-Christianity?
>dumbing down of media
Just... no. The Franks heavily, heavily critiqued capitalist media.
>>79743365
Communism and banking...
hehe
>>79743149
>No, it does not, read up the various definitions of race.
List a definition that doesn't imply that.
>Burden of proof is on you - prove, that there is no such trait.
I am to prove the absence of something? How about you prove its existence. Learn to argue.
>And even before that you are disproving yourself. In order to prove your statement you would first have to define a "race". And as you tried to explain with your pseudoscience that is not possible. Either you accept, that there are races or you simply can't prove your own point.
What is a thought experiment? You assume something, see problems, and conclude the assumption was wrong.
If you want to have "races" you'd have to define them in some such way:
>people who live on mountains tend to have more efficient oxygen transport"
>people who live in the Arctic regain blood flow in their fingers after dunking them in cold water more quickly than people who live further south
>people whose ancestors herded animals that produce milk can drink milk as adults
There are your "races". Now go and be proud of belonging to this and not that one, while your antichrist opponent complains dirty milk drinkers are oppressing him.
>>79743674
Who financed lenin and trotsky?
How would they obtain the capital to overthrow societies?
>>79743423
The argument is if there is such a thing as race. You are not addressing it. You continue to not address it.
The "races" look different depending on what you group them by. If you list 5 things that blacks get more often than whites, and group people in races depending on each of those 5 things separately, you will see the groups won't match.
Say blacks are more violent. Say blacks are less intelligent. Say blacks have some X facial structure.
Now group all humans my violence. Then group all humans by intelligence. Then group all humans by that X facial structure.
Look at your groups. They don't match. You have to redefine race and reinvent which person belongs to which race every time you switch topic.
There is no overarching group.
>>79743895
Who financed Hitler then?
How would they obtain the capital to overthrow their government and conquer almost every nation?
>>79744000
You can try to be retarded, it wont help you.
>>79744119
won election
>>79744161
You continue to continue to not make an argument.
Surely you realize that you have nothing and are just messing around?
>>79744269
You are the one that has nothing.
>>79744269
Different races have unique genes.
>>79734830
>just look at wikipedia if you don't believe me
>just look at wikipedia
>wikipedia
>>79744205
Are you suggesting Hitler "won" an election?
In the German system nobody won outright. It was always going to be a coalition. But what he did do was, he got a huge minority of the vote, more than any other parties by a million miles.
>>79744444
NICE GET
>>79744725
That he did, 17 million Germans voted for him.
>>79744349
see >>79738995
and >>79743704
>>79744444
>unique genes
Its hard to find genes unique to humans, let alone to races.
You mean relative allele frequencies. Those are much more insignificant than you assume and have to do with recent regional development.
Basically read a fucking book, negroid.
>>79744856
Hahahahahahaha
American education...
The Nazi Party did not win an election. They were forced into a coalition in order to form a Government.
Hitler lost the 1932 Presidential election to Paul Von Hindenburg, by a landslide. Hitler was appointed to the position of Chancellor.
>>79744856
Nope.
Hitler lost the 1932 Presidential election to Paul Von Hindenburg.
>>79745129
Again if it's arbitrary then nothing I do matters.
>>79745348
What does this post have to do with mine?
How does it disprove anything I wrote?
>>79745429
Why would you care about what I do with my completely arbitrary classifications? it should affect me the same.
>>79745570
You are wrong in public, so I correct you.
If you wish to remain wrong, go be wrong in private, where your wrongness won't bother others.
>>79745570
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/8662850/Northerners-brains-are-bigger-scientists-find.html
While English people had an average brain size of 1,416ml, the figure in Micronesia, which lies very near the equator, was just 1,200ml.
In contrast Scandinavians, the most northerly population tested, had a brain capacity of 1,484ml - more than 20 per cent higher than Micronesia.
A similar difference was seen in eye volume, with English skulls indicating an average of 26.22ml, compared with 26.83 in Scandinavia and 21.83 in Micronesia.
>>79745682
So it is not arbitrary.
>>79734830
shut up OP
>>79742270
Provide me the science and research that proves there's a vast conspiracy of white heterosexual men keeping everyone down.
>>79745826
>So it is not arbitrary.
Will you make an argument? I am bored of your random drivel.
>>79734830
>>79736249
>going from 0 to Oy Vey this fast
>>79745682
what are: differences in environment, intellect, physique, culture, and language
>>79745969
Did you misquote my post? What you wrote has nothing to do with it.
Also, are you implying language is a racial construct?
>>79736249
>>79745925
Here are the true bases for the classifications.
>>79742270
So you're saying they have no power in Africa?
Delusion 101, this guy!
>>79746092
people of what we consider different race have different languages native to them :^)
>>79745925
Okay prove to me race doesn't exist and doesn't matter, I'll wait here.
>>79742270
>PoC do not have power and thus by its very definition CANNOT be racist.
Wew, so I guess Chinese in China can't be racist. Or Japanese in Japan. Or Africans in Africa. It's good being white when you're apparently objectively superior and immediately assert power anywhere you go, according to you!
Have you ever thought just how racist your side ends up sounding? Outright telling people that they will always be inferior to the whites cause "patriarchy"?
Check the edit history for the wiki page on cultural Marxism.
Basically a few years back I noticed a bunch of self-described Marxist wikipedia editors were trying to rewrite the cultural Marxism page. I kept trying to revert it back and eventually it got locked.
Cultural Marxism is why tumblerinas consider weird definitions of "racism" and "gender" to be the truth - they try to replace definitions in our social lexicon.
>>79746278
>>79746288
Alright, I can tell you are either fools or joking, so I'll leave you to rot. Everything has been said regardless, and you haven't addressed my posts yet.
>>79746339
>Prove the absence of X
No, my friend, you prove the existence of X.
Besides, I've already made statements that disprove races based on genetics, which you have either ignored or made nonsensical responses to.
What matters to me is that neutral and reasonable people browsing the thread will see my posts, see your responses, and know where to turn to.
Good night.
>>79746553
Okay I showed the genes.
>>79746553
>it's foolish to acknowledge differences in people from different parts of the globe
?????
>>79746553
If races are all the same why would I care?
How do I care, if races don't exist.
>>79743704
>List a definition that doesn't imply that.
"Races are defined according to any identifiable characteristic, including gene frequencies."
>any identifiable characteristic
>any
>I am to prove the absence of something? How about you prove
its existence. Learn to argue.
You stated a certain something does not exist. I never stated it exists. You state something - you have to prove it. Easy as that.
>What is a thought experiment? You assume something, see problems, and conclude the assumption was wrong.
Look up the term circular logic. In your thought experiment you are basically using a fork to eat soup to prove there is no soup.
And besides that you stil have to prove, that there is more variety in your defined groups, than there is between your defined groups.
All I see from you Bulgaria is relativistic ideology without any proof.
>>79745925
I show you evidence of differences, and you still say they are all the same, looks to me like you don't care about truth only your dogma.
>>79746284
Considering that western (white) nations continue to oppress them and actively keep them from improving their lot, yes, they do not have any power. Just look at what happened to Gadaffi, a colored man that tried to break free of the yolk of white tyranny and suddenly he's sodomized and killed on camera.
>>79745925
There is no evidence for the different races to be the same.
>>79747155
Go to the congo or zimbabwe, no whiteys.
>people posted in this thread at all
I want summerfags to leave.
>>79747155
>getting upset at the fact that lesser animals are dominated by greater ones
p i e i n t h e s k y
>>79746542
>Reds under the bed
There's no such thing as "Cultural Marxism"; it is pure conspiricy theory.
You can try and argue there is a "Counter Hegemony" at work; but you have to accept the dominant culture is one that supports Capitalism.
>>79747316
; but you have to accept the dominant culture is one that supports Capitalism.
No, the dominant one is an anti nationalist culture.
>>79747316
>the dominant culture is one that supports capitalism
is that true in youths as well?
>>79747481
>No, the dominant one is an anti nationalist culture
Er... Neoliberal Capitalism is "anti-nationalist". The free market require the free movement of products, capital and PEOPLE.
Capitalism and nationalism are incompatible.
>>79739631
Sais the stalinist.
>>79747860
Okay?
I am nationalism first and economy 2nd.
You are anti-nationalism first and economy 2nd, really makes you think.
>>79745872
The Frankfurt School barely wrote anything about identity politics, and the entire conspiracy theory holds no weight once you've actually read their works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shMdHHYpLpY
>>79734830
nice bait faggot
>>79741874
>Heidegger created postmodernism
lol, great bait
>>79747987
You either support free markets, or you don't.
If you don't support free markets, you're an anti-Capitalist.
I suggest you go and sign-up with the Occupy movement.
>>79748120
I didn't say he created it, merely that PoMos heavily draw from him (Derrida, for example).
>>79748044
To fill in the perceived omissions of classical Marxism, they sought to draw answers from other schools of thought, hence using the insights of antipositivist sociology, psychoanalysis, existential philosophy, and other disciplines.[3] The school's main figures sought to learn from and synthesize the works of such varied thinkers as Kant, Hegel, Marx, Freud, Weber, and Lukács.[
>>79742270
>>79746523
Finally, isn't it funny how a "definition" of racism formulated by western leftist college professors apparently is applicable everywhere in the world? Sounds a smidge Ameri/Eurocentrist and yes, racist.
>>79734830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5It1zarINv0
Watch that, it explains what is wrong with you.
>>79748145
Doesn't work like that, I am anti-capitalist as in anti the misuse of the nations wealth.
>>79748223
That's fair, the man himself however was extremely conservative. The class I took on his lectures during the nazi period was a really enlightening experience. It's really obvious that the Nat Soc movement was something Heidegger wanted to happen, but was ultimately disappointed in because of the materialistic attitudes of the NSDAP
>>79748347
>antiintellectualism
No surprise to see it coming from the right.
>>79747316
I actually don't care about the conspiracy aspect - I don't think it's important to attribute conscious action to this phenomenon. Not on a conspiratorial cabal level anyway.
I see it more used as a strategy to influence cultural change. E.g. racism is now defined as "oppression from a position of advabtage or power" meaning minorities can't be racist. This is opposed to the actual definition of the word.
>>79748283
Yes, the works of Lukács were a big influence, as were Kant, Hegel, and Nietzsche.
Not sure why that means the Franks were the minds behind idpol.
Authoritarians can suck my cock
>>79734830
>Just look at wikipedia if you don't believe me.
Haha I got the joke! You have AIDS! haha so funny nigger faggot cunt bitch
>>79748503
>Doesn't work like that,
It does indeed "work like that"...
If you don't believe in free markets, you're not a Capitalist.
>>79748572
Nice strawman faggot
>>79748352
>Some guy says something on tv. Oh it must be true because it fits into my belief system.
kill yourself
>>79748352
>Yuri
When will this meme end?
>>79748871
You haven't proved it's wrong.
>>79734830
>>79736249
>"Cultural marxism is a conspiracy goy...I mean boy. Don't forget to educate your six month child to not be razist!"
>>79748945
You haven't proved it's true. Goes both ways.
>>79748871
Did you even watch it?
>>79748888
He was right about a whole lot of points. Can't deny that.
>>79749071
Yeah I know it. Did it ever occur to you that this might be propaganda as well?
To be honestly familias labeling cultural marxism as a conspiracy or even focusing on that shifts the focus on what's important - recognizing and combating it.
This is why those wikimarxists wanted the page to forward to a section that is clearly labeled CONSPIRACY THEORY so they can just say >lel conspiratards dismissed
This is really ironic because it's cultural marxism practiced to hide what cultural marxism really is.
>>79749294
no, I watched it and saw that's exactly how society progressed.
>>79749342
Cultural Marxism doesn't exist. There's zero evidence that the Frankfurt School (most of whom were SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES) had any plot to infiltrate Western culture for the purpose of making it ready for a communist takeover. Most of the Franks were very anti-USSR and it's foolish to assume they took funding from them.
>>79748741
A strawman implies that I'm wrong.
>>79734830
>totally not happening
>>79749294
Then you must be hilariously retarded, since Yuri discribes exatly how western societies "evolved" during the last decades and how today's leftists and liberal act.
>>79749581
Thank you for 1) ignoring my point and 2) proving me right :^)
>>79748044
>video starts talking about CIA causing 9/11
no it was Saudi Arabia and terrorist.
>>79749581
I am very Anti-Hitler, I still want to achieve racial purity.
>>79749581
>posting a pic with comic bubbles to prove his point
>no facts for allegations whatsoever
Could you please piss off to your antifa-commie-area on reddit?
>>79749666
You might want to explain how the Frankfurt School is supposedly behind identity politics, mindless media, and other travesties of modern times.
If anything, these were things the Franks were critiquing.
>>79749620
At least thats how you perceive it.
>>79749970
it doesn't matter if there is a commie boogieman or not, cultural marxism is still a phenomenon.
When people refer to Cultural Marxism they are referring to the general societal shift in attitudes which means Caitlyn Jenner is regarded officially as a brave and noble hero rather than a completely mentally ill tranny, as she would have been regarded in a previous healthier time.
>>79749970
No, I don't want to explain that because I don't give a shit about it bro. A conspiracy that may or may not exist is irrelevant to me.
I am much more concerned with the concept and its practice (conscious or not) which is undeniable (e.g. racism -> only whites can be racist, gender != sex)
>>79749581
I never knew the French were so good at lying. Nice disinfo shill.
Their primary goal was to figure out why the western European proletariat wasn't starting a revolution based on class warfare despite the example of Soviet Russia. And how society had to be transformed to make it happen, so the socialist utopia could arise.
Oh, and Adorno was a bloody-thirsty, German hating kike.
Eat shit.
>>79734830
>Just look at wikipedia
>>79750069
What kind of moronic statement is that?
I even feel my IQ drop by living in the same country with you.
>>79749897
The accusation is, the Frankfurt School was behind funded by the USSR and sent to do the USSR's bidding. This is completely false, and you will be hard put to find any evidence to support it.
>>79750083
Most of what gets blamed on "cultural Marxism" should really be blamed on neoliberal capitalism.
>>79738475
We are not naturally racist. We are racist by experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVfixSmSA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44AAHMy3PQc
If you call it "progress" ,"justice" or "karma". That is waht hypocrisy
>>79750203
>(e.g. racism -> only whites can be racist, gender != sex)
This concept didn't come from the Franks. It comes from warped interpretations of Michel Foucault.
>>79750220
>Their primary goal was to figure out why the western European proletariat wasn't starting a revolution based on class warfare despite the example of Soviet Russia.
I'd assume a German would be familiar with their works but I digress.
Most of the Franks' works were about the confusion brought on by modernity. They were hardly orthodox Marxists (Adorno being closer to an old school Hegelian, Benjamin's work being far more inspired by the Talmud and Kabbalah than by Marx, Fromm being a giant humanist and somewhat Freudian-influenced).
>Oh, and Adorno was a bloody-thirsty, German hating kike.
Kek.
>>79750271
he analysis and enlargement of "conditions of possibility" for social emancipation.
>>79748572
>intellectualism
Whoah. Classist, much? Check your privilege fascist.
You're the one stifling discourse and the free market of ideas, because you believe your school of thought is holy and untouchable and objectively right.
Again, it seems pretty racist to me to presume that your leftist interpretation of history and culture applies to every nation, race and culture.
>>79750719
http://www.tigweb.org/youth-media/panorama/article.html?ContentID=5749
>>79744444
cheque'd
>>79743230
>what is trotskyism
>>79750271
ok bezmenov
>>79750593
Dude nobody gives a fuck about the Franks. In my eyes it's irrelevant. Why are you so hung up in tying "cultural marxism" to the frankfurt school?
I don't agree or disagree with you when it comes to that conspiracy crap. That's my point I think you're missing. I call it "cultural marxism" you call it "neoliberal capitalism."
My WHOLE POINT, is cultural marxism is the phenomenon of changing culture (mostly language) to fit special snowflake views and opinions. It's like grassroots propaganda if anything.
I don't think there's a planned conspiracy around it but I do think the tactics are actively employed to fit agendas.
This is more of a social/anthro discussion than conspiracies or politics.
I have literally never heard the term "Cultural Marxism" anywhere but /pol/.
Definitely /pol/'s strongest and most resilient meme.
>>79751073
Then you are "literally" living in a cave and beam yourself to your indoctrination center every single day. Literally. Literally. Literally.
>>79734830
>Wikipedia
Casual reminder that the term "Creeping Fascism" was removed from Wikipedia despite being challenged by fascists and maintained legitimate multiple times over 5+ years.
>>79751073
Communism believes in no race.
Communism believes in no religion.
Communism doesn't believe in nations.
Communism doesn't believe in the freedom of the people.
Communism doesn't believe in the people having power to resist.
Communism doesn't believe in real culture.
Communism doesn't believe in anti-materialism.
Communism believes in only classes.
Through cultural means the Marxist futhers these causes, this is what we call Cultural Marxism.
>>79751310
>doesn't ascribe to something that doesn't exist
>is accused of being a shill
Keep blaming your problems on imaginary thing though.
>>79751492
In the educational system and the planned obtainment of Capital the Marxist furthers his goals, his enemy is the Fascist who values traditions above self interest, who values morals and culture above gold.
>>79734830
Anyone who adheres to the "critical theory" as put forth by the Frankfurt school, is a cultural Marxist.
>>79751761
SOUNDS BREDDY EVOLA BRO
>>79751533
In this thread there was so much presented to prove you wrong and you still continue to shitpost your bullshit.
If I was you, I'd commit suicide.
>>79751763
There are many different schools of Critical Theory. Adorno was not the same as Deleuze.
BLM would not exist if not for cultural marxism. BLM is based on exclusion and black supremacy from the revised definition of racism.
>>79739637
still an interesting thread with some good info for those of us that aren't educated on the topic f a m . . .
>>79734830
>Just look at wikipedia if you don't believe me.
You revealed your shitposting a bit too easily. Made me laugh though
>>79751000
Again, what you're describing (multiculturalism, changing language to be more PC) is entirely the result of neoliberalism. There's nothing remotely Marxist about it.
>>79752793
>muh semantics
Whatever you want to call it, man. If anything following your train of thought Cultural Marxism is a part of neoliberalism.
The Marxism part probably comes from the direction culture/language typically shifts from this phenomenon.
>happy 4th, thanks for the help with Britain :)
>>79752793
>>79753072
oh but also the main example of the shifting definition of racism isn't as nice a neutral as
>multiculturalism
>changing language to be more PC
With this example specifically it is to further minority (mostly black) supremacy.
>>79750918
>Stalin had Trotsky shot
>>79734830
>Just look at wikipedia
you know, I almost wanted to have a conversation with you.
almost.
>>79736987
We are taking over
>>79745005
Media lying about origin of star image.
I think the main hashtag could be #dishonestmedia maybe #ffsfactcheck could be another. Also add other hashtags to trumps account and mainstream and alt news.
Proof http://archive.is/Sc6qA
Please don't ignore this this could have a large effect on public opinion and you can help turn it around. Even if thats just shit posting to keep the thread going please just do whatever you can to help.
>>79734830
I see "cultural marxism" as just one aspect of Marxism - the notion that cultures must be made "equal" or treated the same; and that some cultures, namely those of white nations, need to be punished by being overlapped by, or catering-to other cultures.
Cultural Marxism can also refer to Marxism's outright destruction of culture - since many advocates and actual policies of Marxism were for the erasure of national and ethnic identity in order to create a solely materialist and collectivist society. One major example is Mao's "cultural revolution" in which he ordered the destruction of many ancient Chinese artifacts and buildings, and the suppression, arrest, and even execution of artists and poets who espoused traditional Chinese cultural elements. This is also evident in China's current attempts to culturally-destroy Tibet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization
Basically, "cultural Marxism" has always been around; and it is used today as a way of subtly implementing Marxism when overt means aren't so easily-pressed.
>inb4 not real communism/communism dindu nuffin
Even if the accusations of "cultural marxism" are not always true, it would still be in the same sense of how leftists call anything remotely right-wing "fascism", so it's not like you're in a place to judge. It's not some baseless claim either, since there are many people who admit to implementing cultural marxism directly, such as Saul Alinsky and Yuri Bezmenov.
>>79740658
Yes I remember the thread, the person that changed it to what it is now is a Marxist himself and got the wiki page so that it can't be changed anymore
>>79755555
If it's he same guy I battled with his wiki profile mentions that he's a Marxist, asexual, and "uses excessive ellipses..."
Ellipses are for smug faggots to use when they're defeated
>>79755318
based post burgerbro
