/pol/ how do you deal with people who can't see reason?
>>79731568
use lots of capital letters and youtube links
>>79731568
Wait so does that mean that when ice caps, I mean rings disappear due to glogal warming, all the water will just drain over the edge?
I finaly understand you, Al Gore, you were right but we didn't listen.
>>79731568
>how do you deal with people who can't see reason?
Throw them off the edge of the earth
This thread, the anti-vaxxers thread, and the climate change thread are proof that /pol/'s autism levels are so high that its users can't be taken seriously.
Tell me please Flat-earthers
Who profits from making people believe that earth is a sphere.
Why would people try to hide it?
>>79732101
kek
>>79731568
just we do it now, mindcontrol them. just don't let jews do this
>>79731568
To be honest OP I've seen these videos about flat earth and they have a lot of compelling evidence. Whenever someone tries to discredit it all they do is talk shit and never actually disprove what these people say. Scientists will just say, "I'm disappointed and can't believe people can be so stupid" and never actually explain what is wrong with their theorys
>>79733669
>To be honest OP I've seen these videos about flat earth and they have a lot of compelling evidence.
>>79733669
You can literally buy a high altitude balloon, stick a go pro on it and send it up for like £300-500. You'll see the curvature of the earth. If you're not poor- as most conspiracy nuts at- you can get a long haul flight and you'll go so high you can see it. If you're not a moron, like most conspiracy nuts are, you can work out the values of a triangle on a 3D sphere vs 2D circle and see that a flat disc makes no sense with our understanding of distance.
>>79733669
The """"evidence"""" is just impromptu explanations that don't fit together
>>79735174
The evidence does fit together though you're just biased
>>79732249
This, fuck this board.
>>79731640
fpbp
>>79731568
I have two sisters.
One of them is an ardent flat earther, but she can be excused this idiocy as youtube was instrumental in her coming off smack, rather a live moron than a dead junkie, she even has a job now, good lass.
the other sister is uniiversity educated, has a high paying career, owns a house, manages to balance her career with being a single mother and firmly believes that Russel Brand should be next PM. Russell fucking Brand.
I despair /pol/
>>79735261
You literally believe that our planet is flat when you can see other round planets in the sky through a telescope.
>>79733669
That's the thing though.
This shit is pretty flawed in too many ways. It doesn't actually work, for multiple reasons. It's been riding on the fact that people have an intellectual blind spot for the flat earth.
Guess what - realizing this does not make the arguments for a flat earth any more convincing for anyone who's even an amateur in astronomy. For all I know, earth might not be round if they've actually kept this shit under a rug. But it's not a disk, and certainly not flat. Honestly, if there actually was some crazy large-scale conspiracy about the shape of the earth, that would just make flat earthers useful idiots that distract from the truth.
I suspect that there's a group of people trolling, and another group of people that are just convinced because they are shocked about their own flimsy reasoning about the earth being round. After all, it's actually not that obvious why we think the earth is round, yet people pass it around as such an obvious thing since that's what they've know all their lives.
If you are legitimately puzzled about some fact relating to this subject, go ask around /sci/. I myself am quite tired of showing reasons why the earth can't be flat. There is only so many times that you can argue about something so stupid, and it usually devolves into a tiresome argument (instead of debate) where people deny things that you can go out and check for yourself.
TL,DR: I don't think flat earthers are not stupid or unreasonable, just misguided.
>>79735438
Correction you see an image of what people have told you is a round planet in the sky.
You are also making the false assumption that something that is flat cannot be round
>>79735261
Why does the earth have 2 terminators at any given longitude at any time of the day, a flat earth should not have this feature.
>>79731568
you could come up with some so irrational and easily disproved that nobody could believe it. then convince them that it is fact. when they eventually recognise their irrationality and realise what a silly tit they've been, they'll turn to reason.
i think this is may be why someone decided to revive flat-earth theory
>>79735789
not a flat earther here but i dont understand your argument I dont know what terminators are in this context, care to educate me a little?
>>79732249
wtf I hate /pol/ now
>>79731568
Consider that people see reason but may not agree with your reasoning.
>>79735921
a terminator is an astrological term. When you look at the moon at night, the terminator is the line that divides the bright area (facing the sun) and the dark area (facing away from the sun).
>>79735782
You can look at planets yourself with a telescope that you can buy. And round as in spheres fuckass.
>>79735921
The sun illuminates only half the earth at any time, much like you can illuminate a ball with a flash light and only see one side. The edge of the light is the terminator.
>>79736124
Oh so you're literally retarded.
Be like any other right-wing internet autist and make a 4 hour long youtube video of nothing but your nasally voice and pictures of "documents". That'll definitely redpill the masses.
>>79731568
Give them a potion of See Reason.
>>79736214
What do you mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_(solar)
>>79736124
>>79736161
thanks!
>>79735789
That's actually a very good point. Thanks for that.
>>79736214
Where did that come from? That's the definition of a terminator.
>>79736349
This guy explained this very simple concept to you perfectly.
>>79736161
>>79736124
Astronomical*
Don't confuse astrology and astronomy.
>>79736517
He gave the same explanation though.
>>79736517
Yes. He said the same thing I said.
>>79736525
woops
>>79731568
Slightly better illustration for you OP.
>>79731992
No, Antarctica is solid ground beneath the ice.
>>79732351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPxri6_91ww
>>79736816
How to flat earthers explain the sun going below the horizon? If the sun looks like it does in that animation, you'll be able to see it from every point on the earth 24 hours a day.
>>79735789
Because John Connor sent one of the Terminators back in time to stop the first. Obviously.
>>79737055
The sun is quite obviously a spotlight, senpai, so it only lights up things it's shining directly at.
>>79736816
If gravity is a lie and everything simply moves down, what stops the earth from moving down at the same speed negating that effect?
>>79736816
why does the light suddenly stop at the edge of the circle, and also- that rounded edge is far too deep for the cycle we experience
>>79736525
One time the local paper wrote about the ASTROLOGY department at a local collage....
>>79737055
Simple. Take two objects and put them on a table 5 feet in front of you and hold up a ruler and see how far apart they appear to be.
Now walk another 20 feet away and hold up the same ruler. The two objects now appear closer together because you are further away from them
So the further away from you the sun gets, the closer it appears to be to the Earth, and at a certain point appears to actually dip below the horizon.
It's simply an optical illusion caused by relative distance.
>>79736140
Are you seeing a 2d or 3D image through the telescope? I've only ever seen 2d images so I don't know how you're getting a sphere
>>79731568
Fuck them, they'll redpill when mudslimes enrich them with shariah
>>79737297
>what stops the earth from moving down at the same speed negating that effect?
It's sitting on turtles
Send them to Germany
>>79737297
booster rockets
For the flat-earth argument: The ancient Greeks knew the earth was round. They suspected it when they saw other planets in the sky which were round. Then they used trigonometry to determine the earth must be curved. You can follow these arguments still today. Or now we have the luxury of getting on a plane and witnessing it ourselves. But we don't need to do that.
The point is there are ways to reason something is true without having to see it. This is called rationalism, the basis of mathematics. (Opposed to empiricism, the basis of science.) The rationalist way to deduce the earth is round is doing the trig, while the empirical way now is to get on a plane.
My point for the OP is: people reason in different ways, and sometimes come to different conclusions because of this. It's not necessarily because they are unreasonable, but because they take a different path. It's important for us to understand what assumptions others are making before entering debate, for this is the greatest cause of frustration with "unreasonables." They simply begin somewhere else than we do.
If I've learned anything from my studies it's that logical thinking and cold reasoning are NOT natural modes of human thought. These are gifts we have as humans, higher than animals. But it is not a given. We must work hard to sharpen our logical reasoning, either through mathematics or puzzles. I've taught mathematics before and tutored many, and most people simply don't see value in this crucial skill. It's quite sad.
On the other hand, I grew up with someone who was very irrational, to the point of some psychological diagnosis if that's meaningful at all. All I can recommend when dealing with these people is to simply not bother. I'm talking about the VERY extreme, who literally cannot concede in an argument because to them it mentally threatens their safety. It is a defense mechanism for them to deny anything you say or do, and these people are sadly lost in the realm of reason.
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>>79737425
Thats not even how it works and your "optical illusion" isn't actually an illusion, its retarded because light doesn't refract like that
>>79737515
actually its resting on four elephants that are standing on 1 turtle.
>>79737615
In summary, there are some people who are no worth debating because they simply cannot understand logic, I believe. These make great useful idiots, but not even useful idiot lies in this crowd. Many people can be converted when they are introduced to what logic and reasoning are. But there is also danger in assuming there is one path to finding truth, for this is a philosophical conundrum that should not be taken lightly.
There are times when empirical reasoning disagrees with rational, and it takes hard work to reconcile. Do to disregard those who appear reasonable but arrive to different conclusion. The methodology and the starting axioms are essential. Instead work with them, with humility that perhaps your own position can improve after a hard analysis as well as theirs.
>>79737635
>resting on four elephants that are standing on 1 turtle
You fool! It's turtles all the way down!
![158[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/IaS7w1x.png "158[1].png")
>>79737534
>>79737515
Who put them there?
>>79737306
>why does the light suddenly stop at the edge of the circle
It doesn't you moron, that's why it gradually gets darker at dusk and brighter in the morning. I could throw it back at you: if the only reason we're not lit up by the sun at night is because the Earth is between us and the sun then why is there a period of twilight before and after the sun rises/sets?
>and also- that rounded edge is far too deep for the cycle we experience
The "rounded edge" explains why the days are shorter the further north/south you go. Nothing sphere-earthers believe can account for this, so I'll chalk that up as a win for team truth.
>>79737615
No one's claiming it isn't curved.
>>79737619
You must be new here
>>79737615
>The point is there are ways to reason something is true without having to see it. This is called rationalism, the basis of mathematics. (Opposed to empiricism, the basis of science.)
So sphere-Earth confirmed for religion? Got it. Moving on.
![efe9a3c5_atuin[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gDFGgKP.jpg "efe9a3c5_atuin[1].jpg")
>>79737746
then explain pic related.
>>79737751
nasa
>>79737425
Take some good welding glasses or filter the flare of the sun in some other way.
It literally goes UNDER the horizon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU16l-WSq_k
Get good welding glasses or an appropriate filter for a telescope. Go and see this for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU16l-WSq_k
(around 1:40)
>>79737796
Why does the sun fall behind the horizon then? Why can we not always see the sun 24 hours a day?
>>79731568
Promote genocide through Trump's presidency
>>79737979
My mistake, 1:00 for best part
>>79737934
Not at all. Faith is the opposite of rationalism. It is the method of finding "truth" by suspending all reason, and simply believing. It's quite an intellectually shallow method for finding truth, if you ask me.
If you only believe in statements you can see, do you believe in the existence of light waves with frequency beyond those our eyes detect?
>>79737297
Volcanic activity is constantly pushing the Earth up.
>>79737032
Good point Huebro Its a pretty shit theory.
>>79737975
>explain pic related
The Elephant Theory is just another jewish lie, meant to fool people into viewing cattle as sacred, thus keeping India in poverty, and preserving certain designated street statuses. I thought this was common knowledge among the british.
>>79737297
Earth is teathered to the sun by cosmic forces
>>79737193
T O B L E R O N E
>>79737979
Optical illusion you dumb fucker. You know nothing about optics.
Okay, so we've established that two objects look closer together the further they are from you, so it follows logically that if they get far enough away from you they would appear to switch positions.
AND WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THIS EFFECT WITH LENSES.
Take a pair of binoculars or a telescope, objects that simulate distance. Look through until you get a clear image, the pull your head slowly back. You WILL see the image you're looking at invert, the objects on the right switching to the left, top to bottom etc. Are they REALLY moving when you see this happen? Of course not, it's an optical illusion caused by DISTANCE.
>>79737425
that would mean the sun would get smaller and smaller in the sky until it was hard to tell the distance between it and the horizon, by which point the sun would be no brighter than a normal star at most.
That's not what happens though. It doesn;t explain sunsets.
>>79738622
>so it follows logically that if they get far enough away from you they would appear to switch positions.
Not it doesn't.
>>79738622
>Take a pair of binoculars or a telescope, objects that simulate distance.
They don't simulate distance, you dickwad.
>>79738660
The brighter the object, the less it shrinks with distance. Again this is easily observed simply by driving at night and observing the size of headlights relative to the cars. The sun is much brighter than headlights, so this effect is much more pronounced.
>>79738622
>so it follows logically that if they get far enough away from you they would appear to switch positions.
no it doesn't. Nothing ever switches positions no matter how far away you move from it.
>Look through until you get a clear image, the pull your head slowly back. You WILL see the image you're looking at invert
That's due to the lense effect. It inverts the image. Also the sun and horison do not switch positions in a sun set. The horizon stays in the same position it was always in. If their positions were inversed the ground would appear to be where the sky was and the sun would appear to be below where the horizon was previously. Which is what will happen if you do that binocular trick while looking at the sun near the horizon.
>>79738925
You're reverting to "nuh uh" which basically means you've lost the argument.
>>79738622
>Okay, so we've established that two objects look closer together the further they are from you, so it follows logically that if they get far enough away from you they would appear to switch positions.
No it doesn't. YOU are the one who obviously doesn't know anything about
>Take a pair of binoculars or a telescope, objects that simulate distance. Look through until you get a clear image, the pull your head slowly back. You WILL see the image you're looking at invert, the objects on the right switching to the left, top to bottom etc. Are they REALLY moving when you see this happen? Of course not, it's an optical illusion caused by DISTANCE.
And here we have it. PROOF that you know nothing of optics. That simulation is shit, and shows nothing.
>>79739103
I'm not arguing with you the same way I wouldn't argue with a downy that santa isn't real.
>>79739089
>That's due to the lense effect. It inverts the image.
Your eye is a lens.
>Also the sun and horison do not switch positions in a sun set. The horizon stays in the same position it was always in.
Because the sun is moving away from you, the horizon is not.
>>79738978
>The brighter the object, the less it shrinks with distance.
That's not at all true. What made you think that would be the case?
>Again this is easily observed simply by driving at night and observing the size of headlights relative to the cars.
The headlights might blind you at night time, but if you can see their width they shrink with distance like everything else. Measuring the width of the sun at sunset is pretty easy.
>>79739248
>Your eye is a lens.
yes.
>Because the sun is moving away from you, the horizon is not.
So how does the sun disappear then?
Round earth is a jew conspiracy. You know who runs NASA?
>>79739275
>but if you can see their width they shrink with distance like everything else
Of course they do, but they appear larger relative vehicle they're attached to the further they are away from you. The effect is much more pronounced because car headlights are much less bright than the sun.
>>79739103
No, you're saying something that is logically unsound.
I could say that we all know that because 2+2 =4, it follows 2+3=2.
3 people simply pointed out that point out that that reasoning is bogus. It just does not follow.
>>79731568
I try and ignore them, it's often hard, but I find it's worth the effort
What's a good, compelling video I can watch about flat-earther's views? I don't want to be close-minded.
The great thing about the flat earth conspiracy theory is that it requires hundreds of thousands of people to keep a secret so whistle-blowers and leaked documents are no doubt everywhere.
Internationally, all cartographers, geographers, and navigators must lie in all maps about the distance between continents.
All the engineers in all the countries must be in a conspiracy regarding satellites, all GPS's must trick the user into waiting for fake satellites, all Satellite-phones must use secret fake technology, and Satellite tv and radio must be engineered to actually use other means. A group of people have to shoot fake satellites every night into the sky.
Don't forget all astronomers public, private, and amateur from all nations of the world hiding the truth that celestial bodies are 2d disks even though you can watch mars rotate.
By tomorrow night we should have at least ten thousand whistle-blowers from scientists, engineers, businesses, amateur astronomers, government employees, etc.
>>79739464
>but they appear larger relative vehicle they're attached to the further they are away from you
Not if you can actually measure the width of the headlights.
>>79731568
you exploit them for the plebs they are, what else?
>>79739643
>Not if you can actually measure the width of the headlights.
EXACTLY, because it's just an optical illusion, just like the sun. That's what I've been saying the whole damn time.
>>79733669
What """"compelling"""" evidence are you talking about?
It is mostly denying most of the physics we know of and replacing it with some pseudo-science.
>people actually died and burned on a stick so we can have science and flatearth retards just spit on it for the lulz
>>79739862
No, that's not what he said.
You just said that you yourself are wrong if you say "exactly" to that comment.
>B-but the jews taught me we live in a spinning ball and the jews never lie
>>79740122
>If you jump in a moving train you'll fly to the back!
>>79739862
But if you measure the width of the sun as it sunsets, it does not change at all. It stays the same width at all points of the sky. Even though you claim it should be as small as a normal star as it approaches the horizon.
Even the Ancient Greeks proved that the Earth wasn't flat...
>>79733972
Even poorfags can look at the evidence themselves.
>Go to harbour
>Look at ship leaving
>Ship dissapears over the horizon, looks like it sinks into the ocean
>This can only happen if the earth is curved
>>79739622
>All the engineers in all the countries must be in a conspiracy regarding satellites, all GPS's must trick the user into waiting for fake satellites, all Satellite-phones must use secret fake technology, and Satellite tv and radio must be engineered to actually use other means. A group of people have to shoot fake satellites every night into the sky.
Why do satellites have to be fake?
The higher up you go the less gravity there is, and the less air there is. Go high enough up and you can stay up there forever. This doesn't require a spherical Earth.
But yes, there IS a massive global conspiracy to suppress the true shape of the Earth. You don't get into government without being a Satan worshiper.
>>79740254
>the train wasn't moving when you jumped
>>79740122
>People still believe in the spherical jew
>>79740122
Is physics illegal in brazil? What is momentum?
>>79740122
Do you understand how gravity works you fucking dipshit
>>79740122
He was spinning along with the earth while ascending
By your logic, if you jumped you would end up 1440 metres away (distance earth covers in a second)
>>79740354
Erathostenes was based.
>>79740354
1. That isn't Greece
2. That would still happen with a flat Earth because the sun passes directly over the Southern obelisk but not the Northern obelisk
3. The Greeks believed a ton of stupid shit
>>79740122
bumgardener
haha
>>79740550
Richard feynman once taught in secondary schools in Brazil. After awhile he realised all they did was memorise definitions and equations, but had no idea what any of them meant. Probably the same as today.
>>79740590
>By your logic, if you jumped you would end up 1440 metres away (distance earth covers in a second)
Yes, you would, if the Earth was a spinning sphere.
You realize you're arguing against your own position now, right?
>>79740122
>did the earth forget to spin?
Can someone explain what did they mean by this question?
Did they expect to land more than 55 miles away or less?
>people are unironically trying to defend flat-earth here
I thought maybe it was just to prove a point that most people who believe round earth don't know why they do, but there are people who seem unfamiliar with a good amount of the evidence.
>Shadow on moon during lunar eclipse has a round edge
>Standing higher allows you to see further, over the crest of the earth
>You can create a triangle with 270 degrees total on the surface of the earth, something attributed to a triangle on the surface of a sphere and certainly violates laws of Euclidean (flat) geometry
>>79737440
These planets rotate, you can observe this yourself. The surface of the planet turns left or right depending on which one you're observing.
If it were rotating, and they were flat, then we'd see it turning into a flat line at some point. We don't observe that, we observe 2D circles that despite turning, don't become flat.
This shows that the planets are spheres.
>>79740361
This. Look at the disappearing ship with binoculars.
Then swap to a telescope or zoom in if your binoculars are good enough. Ta-da, the horizon blocks the view to the ship. No illusion involved.
>>79740840
What about jumping in a train that's done accelerating, going 80km/h, m8.
I thought you were arguing for your own position. It's almost as if newtonian mechanics have some validity to them.
>>79737425
flat earthers always do this type of bullshit thought experiments that have a huge problem with them
for example; "if the earth was round, things would roll forever"
niggas do not uderstand the sheer size of the earth, and how much friction plays a part in this
"water wouldn't sit in ponds"
god they are idiots
>>79737440
le can't use physics man
le can't observe planets rotating man
>>79731568
make them president
>>79741024
what if theyre just HD4k circular screens and weve been fooled by the grand supreme techno jew from space?
>>79740550
>>79740582
>>79740590
He wasn't in Earth's orbit anymore. Are you people stupid?
>>79733669
>>79735921
>>79736816
>>79737055
There is literally a fucking research base at the geographic south pole. If there was an edge to the Earth, this base would either be on it or somehow rimming the entire outside circumference of the Earth.
Not only that, but explain satellites. A satellite's orbit usually doesn't follow longitudinal lines because that leads to shit coverage.
And, if the Earth was flat, wouldn't you be able to still walk around to the other side? Why has nobody seen the other half of the world? There would still be a gravitational pull. If the Earth was flat, gravity would be stronger in the center, which in these maps is the north pole. But both the south and north pole have magnetic poles.
This entire "theory" is dogshit.
>>79740680
>the sun passes directly over the Southern obelisk but not the Northern obelisk
Which imply that the sun is tiny and very close to Earth, and we know that's not the case.
>>79740840
no, you wouldn't
god dude, did you guys literally never play baseball as children? or soccer?
you don't even need a physics class. a 5 year old could explain this
you are trolling
>>79741276
>He wasn't in Earth's orbit anymore.
He absolutely was.
>>79741220
>weve been fooled by the grand supreme techno jew from space?
Someone's looking for some polonium 210 soup
>>79741276
>He wasn't in Earth's orbit anymore.
He was never in earth's orbit. Do you know what orbit means?
>>79741279
whyd you quote me dude, all i did was ask what a terminator was, and i even said i wasnt a flat earther.
>>79741220
If the jews are able to make massive planet projections you kind of start to wonder why they'd need to control us in the first place.
>>79740680
>1. That isn't Greece
I know. But this was in Ptolemaic Egypt, and the person who did this calculation was Greek.
>2. That would still happen with a flat Earth because the sun passes directly over the Southern obelisk but not the Northern obelisk
No, because the observation happened at noon, when the sun was at its highest, on a particular day. The fact that the shadows were different is what sparked him to investigate in the first place.
>3. The Greeks believed a ton of stupid shit
This is true, but that doesn't detract from what I said.
>>79741279
>And, if the Earth was flat, wouldn't you be able to still walk around to the other side? Why has nobody seen the other half of the world?
Also, you could dig down and fall off the planet.
>>79731568
Use memes that appeal to emotions. I used to think postmodernism was retarded until the last year or so when memes have demonstrably started warping reality. Now I'm a believer.
>>79741467
I was explaining it to you in far easier terms than what they were saying, but i was also replying to the idiots who tried to actually convince you of this garbage.
>>79735430
>>79731568
>Madagasar and Greenland are roughly the same size
>So say flat earthers
>Australia and the entire of North America are roughly the same size
>So say flat earthers
>the physical observation of the moon rotating is a global conspiracy and I myself am in on it
>So say flat earthers
>Seasons are apparently magic
>So say flat earthers
wew lad
>>79741491
spite
>>79741220
seriously, these people have all been psy-opped into falling victim to the supreme art of war
>>79741279
have you seen it yourself? or just pictures?
HA! checkmate!
I have never SEEN my mother, all I have seen is moving images of her in real time, so I don't know if she exists
check-mate, non sophists!!
>>79741491
>start to wonder why they'd need to control us in the first place
Entertainment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2QkBFMjlag
>>79741634
choice B
pants are for the legs and genitals
>>79741304
The sun is so large and so far away that light radiating from it strikes our planet at a straight angle.
>>79741848
Our planet, yes. Not our surface, since it's curved.
>>79741803
the choices werent labelled, are you saying pants are for all legs or only legs that terminate at genitals?
![enhanced-buzz-24705-1303768458-0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JD1vQOD.jpg "enhanced-buzz-24705-1303768458-0[1].jpg")
>>79741848
how far away we talking, cant you do some trig on these god rays????
>>79741688
Was Weedman right?
>>79741990
The one on the left is impractical.
However, if it was practical, it'd give the same functionality as human pants.
>>79742062
thats called foreshortening
just like railroad seem to converge at the horizon but we all know they are parallel
>>79741956
Exactly, hence the change in the shadows of the obelisks at noon.
Those Greeks knew what was up.
>>79741990
>all legs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't veterinarians name dog's forelegs parts as human upper limbs? I mean, they call the paws "hands" and stuff.
>>79742275
I'm not disagreeing with you my man, I'm not a Flat Earther.
>>79731568
Ignore and move on
>>79742062
With gawdrays at that angle an airplane could fly over the sun with how low it would have to be if they came directly from the sun.
>>79740582
no, and neither do physicists
fuck you for making me post
t. lurker
>>79742413
>if they came directly from the sun.
What causes it then? Cloud refraction?
>>79742586
do you jungle ape fucking read?>>79742225
>>79742413
airplanes dont exist
this cant be real. you can not be this stupid and know how to use a computer
>TFW everyone defends the churches for protecting knowledge but the Greeks knew the curvature and size of the earth fairly accurately and the church said "NOPE EARTH IS FLAT" which lead to Columbus' advisor telling him the earth was round but a far smaller size than it actually was leading to his attempts to reach the Indies and claim credit when other several other kingdoms knew already due to prior records like Erikson and were potentially making plans to colonize it themselves
>TFW History as we know it today would have been completely different had Columbus known the actual size of earth and Hitler would have won and we'd be free of the Jew
>>79731568
You stop talking to them.
>>79742698
Id be more worried about the fact that most of these people can legally drive.
>>79742698
>>79742808
This thread is full of trolls. Is it that hard to see?
They could've performed a good service by challenging blindly held beliefs, but they decided to go full retard instead. It's quite sad that a thread discussing the philosophy of reason was destroyed by morons.
>>79742664
Jesus, chill, man.
>>79741803
Honestly you are fucking retarded Option A is superior in every way as it give the dog enough room to waggle it's tail and it covers all legs
>>79742586
They're caused by gaps in the clouds, sunlight is partially blocked. You see several rays coming down looking like they came from the same point.
This convergence of the rays is a matter of perception, it's the same when you see two parallel railways go into the horizon. They look like they converge at the end, but they actually keep going parallel.
>>79732101
KEK
>>79733669
This. The science hasn't been settled on the shape of earth. The government needs to stop funding flat-denialists or start funding both sides of the debate.
There are only 2 options.
1. flat earth theory is real
2. shills
I figure it's the second one.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/uMX8jMO.png "latest[1].png")
>>79742947
Im well aware of the trolls friend, im one of them!
"It's easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled"
Here's a picture taken from a V-2 rocket 100 miles up, about 10 years before NASA was even existed.
>>79742947
tbqh, the flat earth society started in a debate club in England. The founders knew it was a joke, the aim was to see if someone was able to defend successfully the position of flat earth in a debate.
>>79743534
This quote is true, but the only conspiracy about flat-earthers is that they try to cause division among those otherwise united.
This thread contains overwhelming evidence that the earth is round which has not at all been touched.
>>79743534
>curved exactly like
>ISS has a far shallower angle
>not near as steep drop off
Brazil pls, you're hosting the Olympics. Try to be even marginally respectable.
>>79731568
I K R
THESE RETARDS JUST DONT GET IT
WHAT SAD LITTLE SHEEP
>>79742070
weedman? in which regard?
>>79743879
Lmfao who is responsible for this elaborate trolling campaign?
>>79744091
If you kill your enemies they win, obviously Sun Tzu agrees.
What if flat earth is elaborate trolling?
>>79744131
THINK THATS A TELESCOPE YOURE LOOKING THROUGH??
L.O.L.
WAKE UP
>>79743675
apparently they were highly successful
>>79731568
You kill them
>>79744422
no he meant the supreme art of war is for your enemies to give up because they believe you have already won
>>79745338
what if flat earth is perpetuated by jews who want us to think that it's not true because jews are the ones running it?
pic related notice the nose
>>79745412
>>79731568
Because the planet is sphere, not a flat disk/plate/whatever. If the planet is flat and you stood on a boat, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, you should be able to see North America and Europe. But you can't.
Because the planet is a sphere. The planet's shape prevents you from seeing it because of the curvature.
And what happens if you walk all the way to the edge of (supposed) flat Earth? Will you fall off into oblivion? Will you end up underneath and we see an alternate version on the other side? You see, it just doesn't work.
>>79733669
Any evidence (regardless of validity) is not compelling evidence. It has to be supported by actual and proven science.
>>79745860
What if it's all just smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that the Earthis hollow and our core is actually a star?
